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Breastfeeding - I don't get it

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crystalpony · 08/02/2007 00:29

I can't get my head around the emotive issue of breastfeeding. I didn't breastfeed - quite frankly the thought of doing it repulsed me and the majority of my friends also feel and felt the same way. This doesn't reflect my opinion of others doing it - each to their own - but I just can't reconcile the desperate feeling the some MNers have about not being able to do it adequately....

I bottle fed my baby - and before there are any comparisons to me bottle feeding her by the more dramative types - ie that I might have well just have fed her cyanide or mouldy chicken nuggets etc. - and I bonded to her no probs, never felt I had missed out.

Can someone explain to me in simple terms why it's so important to them and so frustrating when it doesn't go as planned? Is there some kind of though on here that if you don't you're a bad and neglectful mother because there seems to be a general undercurrent of shame if you haven't managed to (or chose not to) breastfeed for whatever reason?

Thanks

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welliemum · 08/02/2007 09:40

Yes, great post tiktok.

Olihan · 08/02/2007 09:44

Couldn't agree more tiktok. Also thought the bf ticket post on LTH's thread was absolutely spot on for me and probably true for so many women.

Loopymumsy · 08/02/2007 09:46

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PrettyCandles · 08/02/2007 09:46

I am a mum who struggled desperately to bf her first child, and ended up with PND probably triggered by the experience, and also struggled to establish bfing with both subsequent children. I do not find Crystalpony's OP offensive and I can quite understand her 'premptive' stance.

What I can't do is explain why bfing was and is so important for me. After the first baby ti was simple: if not succeeding to bf lead to PND, then I was determined not to go down that route again. Yet at the same time I knew and accepted that ff would be a viable alternative if I could not bf again.

I don't particularly enjoy bfing, don't have any of the physical delight in it that is often described, and certainly don't feel that ff negatively affected my bonding with ds1, yet somehow it's important to me. Perhaps because of my memories of childhood, with my mum bfing my little sister, and that being a space of calm, quiet love - which included the rest of uus. Perhaps also it eases the transition from my child being part of my body to being a separate individual. And I can't discount the fact that bfing is healthier than ff.

I can't imagine finding bfing repulsive, but that attitude may just be a part of a person's social conditioning, just as some people wouldn't dream of eating on the street or breaking wind in public, while others wouldn't bat an eyelid at it.

hunkermunker · 08/02/2007 09:49

Tiktok, very glad you're back albeit doing reduced shifts

Crystalpony, your OP was tasteless - you managed to criticise both women who do bfeed and women who wanted to but ffeed for whatever reason.

As has already been said on this thread, I don't understand the revulsion you feel about bfeeding - can you explain why you feel like that? And saying "I just do" probably isn't going to be good enough, since you seem to have trouble accepting that lots of women "just want to bfeed" and feel incredibly distraught at not being able to do so.

JoolsToo · 08/02/2007 09:56

I'd like to offer that the OTT comment about cyanide and chicken nuggets is probably a return ball to moondog's thread that kicked off about formula 'junk' - you know the one? .

I think it's a bit pointless to ask why women feel like they do about breastfeeding if you can't say why you feel repulsed (as it happens my SIL felt the same way!).

Once all the information has been digested why can't we just let women make their choices and let it be?

lockets · 08/02/2007 09:59

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Lizzylou · 08/02/2007 10:09

Sorry, but this seems like a fair (and brave ) question!
I breastfed both DS's until they were 6mths, I went through stages of loving and loathing it but it was something I personally felt very strongly about. My birth experiences weren't great and made me feel inadequate and feeding my boys myself made me feel womanly again, I suppose. I have always felt that breastfeeding was what my breasts were there for, I do know plenty of women who don't feel this way and each to their own. I feel bad that a few friends have felt forced to breastfeed when they found it an uncomfortable and painful process, it shouldn't feel like a chore.
I think it was the physical closeness I loved the most, the bonding and doing something for them which noone else could (in the absence of a wet nurse!)and the obv health benefits.

Clary · 08/02/2007 10:25

I bf my 3 and it went as planned so wasn?t frustrating, I was very lucky. But the reason I think many new mums want to do it and feel frustrated is to do with wanting to provide the best for your baby. I think the benefits of bf are well known and I don?t need to detail them here, but I guess people who wanted to access those and couldn?t might well feel frustrated and maybe guilty (not saying they should feel guilty - people have to do what?s best for them).

I also think it is an interesting question but the word "repulsed" is not a good choice I feel. What is repulsive about b/feeding I wonder?

VeniVidiVickiQV · 08/02/2007 10:30

I'm sure it was, Jools, but I'm not sure it makes it any more justifiable.

hunkermunker · 08/02/2007 10:32

Absolutely, the question is valid. I just wasn't keen on the way it was put, since the OP seemed designed to make this thread "kick off" (as the author of inflammatory OPs myself, I can spot 'em a mile off, you see ).

wannaBeWhateverIWannaBe · 08/02/2007 10:42

I don?t think there?s anything wrong with asking the question. And I also think that there are a lot more women who choose not to breastfeed for one reason or another than we would perhaps care to admit. A friend of my mum felt very much the same. She said that the thought of breastfeeding repulsed her, she couldn?t explain why but she just couldn?t face the thought of breastfeeding, to the extent that when she was in labour the mw asked her how she was going to feed and she said she was going to use bottles, and the mw grabbed her breasts and said something along the lines of ?this is what your breasts are for! You must use them!? she was absolutely distraught (this was 25 years ago btw) and actually believes that the birth was ruined for her by the fear that this mw was going to make her breastfeed when it was something she absolutely could not bear the thought of.

But I think that if something is natural to someone, then it?s hard to see how others cannot feel the same. I know for instance of people who find the thought of a baby moving inside them horrible, and yet for me it was one of the loveliest experiences, and I couldn?t wait to feel my baby moving. But obviously some just don?t feel that. They can?t explain it because it?s not natural iyswim. We can explain why we love it so much because to us it?s the most natural thing in the world, but if it doesn?t feel natural to you, then you can?t really explain why.

I was unable to breastfeed partly due to my ds not latching properly, and partly, IMO, due to the fact I didn?t have a proper milk supply. I don?t know whether this is the case, but I?m the only person I know who never leaked milk, although I know I did produce collostrum as my ds had this for the first three days. But I didn?t feel the guilt when I decided to stop. My nipples were excrutiatingly painful, and the very thought of putting ds to one of them filled me with dread as I couldn?t bear the pain any longer, I had a baby screaming because he was hungry, and even if I put him to my breast I felt he might not latch and I might spend ages trying to get him to latch, so for me the choice was, do I persiveer and have an unhappy, crying, hungry baby, or do I give him a bottle and have a full, contented baby. There was no choice for me, and I did it without an ounce of guilt because I honestly believe that I did what was best for my baby and for me. But when I made the decision I was at home, in a familiar environment where I knew that I knew best. Had I been in the hospital where the midwives were insistant that I should keep trying, I might not have been so comfortable with my decision, possibly because of the opinions of others. As matter of interest, I was the only one of 25 people on the wards with babies that had decided to breastfeed.

sunnywong · 08/02/2007 10:45

has this thing kicked off yet?

VeniVidiVickiQV · 08/02/2007 10:47

Actually suzy, i think you are bit premature

NadineBaggott · 08/02/2007 10:48

fight! fight!

sunnywong · 08/02/2007 10:49

what you mean no one is one their high horse yet?

NadineBaggott · 08/02/2007 10:51

yee-ha!

dejags · 08/02/2007 10:51

Exactly what I was thinking Suzy.

Actually, I was off to start a new thread:

"C-Sections - I don't get them". Gawd can you imagine if I referred to them as repulsive.

I do believe that BF'ing is becoming a slightly less emotive on subject. There was even mention of BF Mafia without a strop on another thread earlier.

dejags · 08/02/2007 10:52

don't know where that rogue "on" came from.

PrettyCandles · 08/02/2007 10:53

Well I don't get elective CS for non-medical reasons. I do find the idea of choosing to do that to my body repulsive. How can you (anyone, not personal) dictate how a person feels. If they're repulsed then they are replused, not puzzled.

dejags · 08/02/2007 10:54

I was joking PrettyCandles.

I don't find it repulsive. It's a personal choice.

Live and let live

wannaBeWhateverIWannaBe · 08/02/2007 10:56

actually the thought of havng a c-section repulses me. of course I would have had one had it been a medical necessity, but the thought of lying on a table and being awake while I was being cut open does repulse me - sorry.

PrettyCandles · 08/02/2007 11:00

Wasn't jumping on you, Dejags, though I certainly did't get the tone you intended.

dejags · 08/02/2007 11:03

No worries PC.

I am convert to the MN Church of Be Careful What You Say. Particularly about Feeding, Birth Choices and Weaning.

MissGolightly · 08/02/2007 11:17

Hi Crystal, if you genuinely want people's point of view you would do better not to use words like "repulsed" in your op . There are a lot of tender feelings around breast-feeding and language like that doesn't help. I feel huge sympathy for the mners who have been made to feel bad for not breastfeeding, but equally there are a lot of mners who have been made to feel bad for breastfeeding (in public/beyond a certain point/in spite of their baby's weight gain etc etc etc).

However, language aside, I think your question is reasonable and interesting and in answer, breastfeeding is important to me because:

  1. It was how I imagined myself feeding my baby before he was born and a large part of my desire to have a child was to fulfil that dream of a tiny nose nuzzled into my breast
  2. I wanted to do the best for my baby's health and well-being (and while I am not of the "formula is poison" school of thought, equally there is no doubt that breast milk IS better designed for babies.)
  3. Lactating is part of what makes us women - like having periods, babies, breasts etc. Many women speak of their grief after a hysterectomy, and their feeling that something quintessential to their identity as a woman has been removed. To me, the ability to breastfeed is part of my identity as a woman and if I had not been able to do it I would have felt huge grief.
  4. Where I live (north London) there is huge social pressure to breastfeed. You say that most of your friends felt the same way as you - well, ALL the women I know attempted to exclusively breastfeed their babies. Not all succeeded, but they all tried, some desperately. Even now (at 9 months) I only know two people out of my antenatal group who are formula feeding. It is no fun to be the odd one out.
  5. Perversely, because it was hard in the beginning it made me want to breastfeed MORE!

Hope that helps.