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WHAT IS THE SMALLEST AMOUNT OF CALORIES I CAN HAVE? FEELING DIZZY.. i dont want to stop bf..but

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dreamingalone · 21/01/2014 17:41

hello please help! few days ago I had 3 coffees and 2 apples. and it gave me the shakes and made me really dizzy,. i dont understand. i used to not eAt for a week or so before i had kids and was completly fine.. so i am assuming its down to breastfeeding. so i need to know the smallest AMOUnt i can consume while breastfeeding without feeling dead maybe 500?? what foods keep milk supply healthy but not to fattening and give energy, also what vitamine supliments will help if i am restricting , so i can put them in my 'safe foods' list. please tell me what the answer is to my question . i dont want to stop bf but i am finding this tough( baby is almost a year)..I dont need LEcture i just need some advice. so far ive lost 2 and ahalf stones in 3 months. now im at a stand still..

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gamerchick · 22/01/2014 17:23

youre planning on more oranges for your evening meal?

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PatriciaHolm · 22/01/2014 17:23

sugar free gum isn't food!

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PacificDogwood · 22/01/2014 17:26

Please seek help.
I have lurked yesterday and your inability to see how disordered your earring and your relationship to food is, is quite frightening to me Hmm
Sugar-free gum is not 'food', nowhere near.
You owe it to yourself and your baby to get help and get is now. Please.

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Alibabaandthe40nappies · 22/01/2014 17:27

Oh come on OP, you are pushing it now.

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BoulevardOfBrokenSleep · 22/01/2014 17:44

What are the rest of the family having for dinner?

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SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 22/01/2014 18:03

You are starving yourself.

You are not getting enough nutrition for your brain to work properly.

You believe an egg, two slices of toast, two oranges and some sugar free gum is 'stuffing yourself' with '2000 calories'.

You have an eating disorder.

Go and see a doctor before you leave your child motherless.

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ChilliQueen · 22/01/2014 18:16

An egg and 2 slices of toast (I'm assuming no butter etc), max = 300 calories. 2 oranges = max 100 calories. That's 400 calories. It's really good that you can eat. But this is not enough. That would be a very healthy breakfast and mid-morning snack for a non-breastfeeding child or adult. But you're breastfeeding... and you missed lunch. I've no idea about your past in terms of food. I'm sure lots of us will look at the calories on foods from time to time (all the time!), but I think you may need some help with this. I'm not qualified to comment at all, but can you push yourself to eat a little more... some green veg... meat... even a light tea of chicken and broccoli? Something?

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MrsFrankTurner · 22/01/2014 18:20

I am a counsellor & am reading your posts with great sadness & concern. I work with many women with eating disorders and, from what you've posted, your thinking around food is irrational and very disordered.

As others have suggested OP, please see your GP-if you have a GP surgery with a few Doctors, choose a GP you trust & can confide in. You won't be judged and disordered eating is not uncommon in women after having babies as the changes to our bodies during pregnancy can be overwhelming especially if you have a history of anorexia.

Please please speak to somebody -if you PM me the area you live in I can suggest some organisations who offer support to women; either counselling or relationship support.

Most of all, please please take care-you are a mummy and your DCs need their mummySmile

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dreamingalone · 22/01/2014 20:05

gamer- I had half a bottle of lucoZade because you know when you go to Sainsburys and you get money Of your next shop so I bought a lucozade and drank half thats fattening then I decided to walk to mums with her shopping for some excersise then she offered me a wotsit eew, but I said no , I had a bite of my mums apple, so dont think il eat anything else today feel full, and my eating disorder is not back because im not obsessed with calories I havent counted

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dreamingalone · 22/01/2014 20:08

I have not got a history of anorexia as far as im concerned nevermind what the doctors wrote because I only got down to a 8 from a size 20 and im 5:2foot so thats normal also im not making my self sick im not a kid any more , I think It seems like little food because you dont know how big I am, please dont worry I didnt write this post to worry anyone I just advice about something

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RalphRecklessCardew · 22/01/2014 20:08

Um, if you think half a lucozade and one bite of an apple is enough for a day, then your eating disorder IS back.

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dreamingalone · 22/01/2014 20:12

chilli- im making Sheppard pie for kids tomorow will eat some of that tommorow no more today though if im bein honest

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dreamingalone · 22/01/2014 20:15

Ralph! I Also had 2 toast and an egg and 2 oranges and 2 suger free gum half a lucozade and a bite of apple and now having another chewing gum , I domt understand because what is the point in eating when I am so full I could puke

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noblegiraffe · 22/01/2014 20:23

Your stomach has shrivelled to nothing because you have starved yourself. That's why you feel full, not because you have eaten enough to sustain one human being let alone you and your baby.

Sugar free gum isn't food, it doesn't have any nutritional value. Bin it and eat some actual food.

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dreamingalone · 22/01/2014 20:25

albi-pushing what? if your goimg to take the piss out of me and make me feel stupid I won't be honest

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PatriciaHolm · 22/01/2014 20:27

You are not, in any way, full. Your mind is telling you you are, but it's physically impossible. Not being obsessed with calories is irrelevant. You aren't eating enough to keep a small child going, let alone a breastfeeding adult. You are in serious danger of being very very ill. Chewing the gum instead of eating is a regular thing with those with eating disorders too.

Go to the Doctor before you collapse. What will happen to your children then?

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dreamingalone · 22/01/2014 20:27

ive gone out while they had tea , there having mixed veg. rice that I made with tomato onions etc and chicken

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dreamingalone · 22/01/2014 20:28

before anyone says it there not on there own!

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TheGreatHunt · 22/01/2014 20:30

You're not really teaching your children healthy eating habits are you? They pick up what you do.

Also you'll need to bring your calcium levels back up after feeding your baby so you need to eat properly.

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dreamingalone · 22/01/2014 20:33

albi- I wasnt sayin "ha" to prove a point I was sayin haha to make light of the situation , your too much I feel like your just laughing at me

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ChilliQueen · 22/01/2014 20:38

Ok... I don't know any previous history... so am going from what you've said...
You are 5ft 2inches. You were a size 20. You went down to a size 8. Probably size 8 is about right for someone of 5ft 2 inches. Give or take a size or two. But you said ONLY got down to a size 8... not very many people smaller than a size 8. I certainly don't know any! That's quite small. Were you disappointed by only getting to size 8? How did you diet?
You are not making yourself sick.. you're not a kid anymore (did you used to make yourself sick?). Unfortunately, making yourself sick rots your teeth, and often your body has already absorbed calories etc, so not much point really.
Dreamingalone... can I ask why/how got to a size 20... and at what stage in life (prior to or after children.. or always been)...
Your idea on food intake is quite warped. That's not my opinion, that's a fact. I think you probably know that though.

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dreamingalone · 22/01/2014 20:40

you know what albi il just shutup if im pushing gosh I didnt write this post to be laughed at I dont need this

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Mama1980 · 22/01/2014 20:40

Hi I am not qualified in any way to advise here, I second everyone else and say I think you really do need to see your gp or at least think about doing so. Your posts are very worrying but I admire you for realising you had too little the other day and searching for options and opinions.
Your last post struck a chord, with the phrase 'so full I could puke' to make a very long story short I had my ds2 14 months ago he was born at 24 weeks I nearly died and was in intensive care then hospital for months. I was unable to eat anything for ages so when I was well enough I could barely stomach anything, I was full after half a slice of bread anymore and I was sick, my stomach and shrunk to nothing. This maybe what you are experiencing now and it is not healthy for your body to feel that way.
I insisted on pumping and then breast feeding and became very dizzy and weak as you describe the dr said literally the baby will take everything your body has in his/her milk, there will be nothing left for you.
To answer your initial question I was told I needed a absolute minimum of 1500 calories simply to risk not causing myself harm never mind nourish my body properly. From what you've posted I'm sorry but you are no where near even that total.
It was difficult but I built up to it gradually under medical supervision. I literally had to force the food to stay in me.
Little and often is what I was advised. Build up drinks were my friend too.
But as I said I am not qualified here I just wanted to share my experience and in answer to your question what I was told by the drs. I hope you feel you can talk to someone soon.
Please take care of yourself.

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PatriciaHolm · 22/01/2014 20:42

Pay attention to all the other posts! Don't just cherry pick one and use it as an excuse to run away.

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girliefriend · 22/01/2014 20:46

How much do you weigh?

You need to menu plan a breakfast, lunch and dinner and then eat it. Even if you don't fancy it.

I am a bit Hmm that anyone can survive on what you claim you do and look after a baby as well. You sound really unhealthy, please get rl help.

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