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WHAT IS THE SMALLEST AMOUNT OF CALORIES I CAN HAVE? FEELING DIZZY.. i dont want to stop bf..but

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dreamingalone · 21/01/2014 17:41

hello please help! few days ago I had 3 coffees and 2 apples. and it gave me the shakes and made me really dizzy,. i dont understand. i used to not eAt for a week or so before i had kids and was completly fine.. so i am assuming its down to breastfeeding. so i need to know the smallest AMOUnt i can consume while breastfeeding without feeling dead maybe 500?? what foods keep milk supply healthy but not to fattening and give energy, also what vitamine supliments will help if i am restricting , so i can put them in my 'safe foods' list. please tell me what the answer is to my question . i dont want to stop bf but i am finding this tough( baby is almost a year)..I dont need LEcture i just need some advice. so far ive lost 2 and ahalf stones in 3 months. now im at a stand still..

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dreamingalone · 21/01/2014 19:07

Elpha- i will look into weight watcher. and yes on setriline for pnd. but to be honest i feel like its the setriline making my mind go back into restricting mode. i started to feel the urge to restrict when it was increased by 50mgs to 150mg

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dreamingalone · 21/01/2014 19:08

is it pnd or ppd the one you get after birth

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LittleMissGerardButlersMinion · 21/01/2014 19:08

OP please see your GP, they will be able to help you eat sensibly and eat the right foods without putting on weight.

I know it sounds daft, but if you starve yourself you won't lose the weight as when you do then eat your body will store as much as it can as it won't know when it is next getting food.

I know you don't want to hear this, but it does sound like your eating disorder is back, only eating 500 calories is not nearly enough. I'm not trying to tell you what to do, but I'm being honest because I'm worried about you.

dreamingalone · 21/01/2014 19:08

Eirkur- hi hun but people are saying slimming world is the healthiest option?

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teaandthorazine · 21/01/2014 19:09

Then all the more reason to go back to your dr and talk to him/her about the medication you're on, and your current diet.

You need to get some help.

LittleMissGerardButlersMinion · 21/01/2014 19:10

Just seen your comment about the anti depressants, please go back to your doctor and say how you feel, as it may be they aren't the right medication or the right dose, and your doctor may suggest a better one Thanks

Ruralninja · 21/01/2014 19:10

What you need to be careful of is if you deprive yourself of the basic minimum of calories, your body will go into starvation mode and your metabolism will slow right down - this is one of the consequences of yo-yo dieting. Just eat unprocessed food (and you need approx 80g of protein a day - 20g from a supplement shake if necessary) and maybe try to think longer-term. You need energy, good fats, protein, unprocessed carbs. Try not to get into that Bridget Jones mindset where all eating is a failure of willpower!

PotteringAlong · 21/01/2014 19:10

But you don't want to follow slimming world - you get extra calories on slimming world and everything! You want to eat bugger all which is a very very big difference.

dreamingalone · 21/01/2014 19:10

Little miss- you are a sweetheart and i genuinly apreicaiate your advice and concern. but i am in control for now. im just under alot of stress and i feel focusing eating smaller portions etc will help me people do weird things to cope xx but i will be safe no more eating just 2 apples! it was stupid to try that when im breastfeeding your all right. but i was having a bad day and had been awake all night and then i didnt want breakfast and just progressed from there. but i am ontop of it now :) xx

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TeaAndFag · 21/01/2014 19:12

I apologise for the troll comment. I guess I just find it so hard to believe. Reading your post made me feel so sad Sad I really hope you seek the strength to get the help you need.

JohnnyBarthes · 21/01/2014 19:12

I don't think gamer is saying that you're depriving your baby - she's talking about the toll your diet combined with BF is taking on you.

Please listen to everyone here and see your GP.

EirikurNoromaour · 21/01/2014 19:12

No slimming world, no weightwatchers. They are for people who need support to lose weight by dieting. You are very ill, you have an eating disorder. You cannot follow any diet plan while you are thinking of restricting to 500 calories a day or less. That is disordered thinking and indicates that you are ill. Doctor is the only place you need to go for advice.

PatriciaHolm · 21/01/2014 19:13

Dreaming, you are in an abusive relationship and have PND, according to your other threads.

I agree with the poster above who suggested your eating disorder is back; you have a terrible attitude to food, and you cannot sustain this and safely look after a baby. It's understandable, your food intake is the one thing in your life you can control, but you are ill and getting worse.
You need to get back to the GP, urgently, and explain your feelings, and tell him about your relationship too. Please let someone help.

dreamingalone · 21/01/2014 19:13

pottering- yes " i want to eat bugger all" which i know isnt healthy. its hard to explain it my mind would rather i dont eat. but i am not going to do that. so i am going to look into slimming world. to see if that will help me its still following a strict diet which i think might give me something to focus on.. i know i sound like a stupid person. but i didnt wake up one morning and decide " hey. il just be hungry today because my day seems to run better when my belly is empty" its in my head. and i am trying to do something better by eating small and regularly please dont be angry at me. i am fully aware this all sounds crazy as hell and stupid. and selfish and all of the above. you cant tell me something i dont already know.

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ElphabaTheGreen · 21/01/2014 19:14

Thinking that controlling your food intake will help in other areas of your life is classic eating disorder behaviour.

Definitely talk to your GP about a meds review and possibly even your health visitor as they are there for you as much as your baby.

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 21/01/2014 19:15

Elpheba is right - you need a minimum of 1500 - and that is probably too low.

Can you do that? If the answer is 'no' then I am sorry, your eating disorder is back.

Your brain is not getting enough nutrients so you can't rely on your own perceptions - just like if you were drunk. Scientific tests have shown how alcohol impairs people's ability to judge their own abilities, and I suspect that being starved, as your brain is now, will be having a similar result - so you need An impartial, professional opinion on whether your eating disorder is back.

An experiment at Minnesota university in 1950 into the effects of starvation found the following:-

"Prolonged semi-starvation produced significant increases in depression, hysteria and hypochondriasis (a focus on somatic concerns) as measured by the MMPI (a test of personality)
Most participants experienced periods of severe emotional distress and depression and grew increasingly irritable
Some individuals engaged in self-mutilation (these days we call this self-harm, often seen in people struggling with regulating their emotions) – apparently one person cut off three fingers with an axe although it was unsure if this was deliberate or accidental
^Many appeared apathetic and lethargic with a diminished sexual interest
Volunteers showed signs of social withdrawal and isolation^
Participants reported a decline in concentration, comprehension and judgment capabilities"

My own cousin ate a very, very restricted diet - she was a fruitarian (ate only fruit and some nuts), and the balance of her mind was damaged by this, and she committed suicide.

dreamingalone · 21/01/2014 19:15

Pat- im sorting the relationship situation.. so thats fine.
" acording to your other posts". do you think i am lying? its not really something somoene would make up.. im embarrased and ashamed about the whole situation as it is.. im trying my best. to sort things out one step at a time.

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dreamingalone · 21/01/2014 19:16

I have to go back and read what people are replying.. i feel so ashamed now. i honestly was just trying to get some advice i promise im not trying annoy you all i am listetning to everything you say. thanks xx

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Rooners · 21/01/2014 19:16

Oh no, I didn't realise you were in a relationship with someone awful.

I'm sorry.

I think you need to focus on getting yourself out of that first. Keep eating while you do that.

Then once he is out of the picture you can see how you feel.

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 21/01/2014 19:17

Btw - PND is post-natal depression, and PPD stands for post-partum depression, and both are the same thing.

Rooners · 21/01/2014 19:17

No one thinks you are annoying

No one thinks you are lying

No one thinks you're selfish

We are just feeling really sad for you and want you to be Ok.

That's all. I promise.

Alibabaandthe40nappies · 21/01/2014 19:21

OP you need some help with your mental health more than you need nutrition advice.

Please go and see your GP.

Alibabaandthe40nappies · 21/01/2014 19:23

If you are feeding a baby and eating such tiny amounts you are going to be depleting your very bones. You will end up with osteoporosis and worse before you are 40. You are in fact killing yourself.

Your baby needs a healthy mother, not a skeleton who hasn't the strength to run after him without having a fainting fit.

Out of interest, how much do you weigh?

PatriciaHolm · 21/01/2014 19:23

No no, definitely not saying you are making it up, at all. I was simply letting others know that the info came from other posts you had made not this one, and I think the info is deeply relevant. Please get professional help, please.

gamerchick · 21/01/2014 19:26

seriously, you have to eat loads in slimming world.

GO TO YOUR GPs and ask him for nutrition advice if nothing else.