WHAT IS THE SMALLEST AMOUNT OF CALORIES I CAN HAVE? FEELING DIZZY.. i dont want to stop bf..but

[dreamingalone]

hello please help! few days ago I had 3 coffees and 2 apples. and it gave me the shakes and made me really dizzy,. i dont understand. i used to not eAt for a week or so before i had kids and was completly fine.. so i am assuming its down to breastfeeding. so i need to know the smallest AMOUnt i can consume while breastfeeding without feeling dead maybe 500?? what foods keep milk supply healthy but not to fattening and give energy, also what vitamine supliments will help if i am restricting , so i can put them in my 'safe foods' list. please tell me what the answer is to my question . i dont want to stop bf but i am finding this tough( baby is almost a year)..I dont need LEcture i just need some advice. so far ive lost 2 and ahalf stones in 3 months. now im at a stand still..

[dreamingalone]

fastwindow- 2,500!!?! never gonna happen im not trying to gain :( are you trying to trick me lol x

[noblegiraffe]

2 apples is about 100 calories, you felt dizzy because your body isn't being given enough fuel to function properly.

What if you collapse? What if you are holding your baby?

You need to eat more, whether you want to or not. And 500 calories isn't nearly enough.

[TeaAndFag]

Not sure if this is a troll post or not. But can't figure out what the point of it would be if it was....

[dreamingalone]

Please ladies , I know the goodness in you is making you say " 2,500 CALories eat healthy etc etc". But I apreciate that because you ladies are right. BUT its not going to happen at the momment. I need you to tell me whAT foods i can eat small amounts of. and i will take vitamines. and drink plenty of water. i know this way isnt ideal but its healthier than what i really want to do which is not eat anything.. and burp fresh air.. those were the days. i know i sound crazy but we all have our quirks im guesing. and this isnt something i tell anyone.. but i gues desperate times call for desperant measures lol even if you all get angry and call me selfish etc

[SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius]

Taking multi vitamins will not help you with the dizziness - that is because you are starving yourself.

Your diet is extremely unhealthy, and if carried on for long enough, will cause severe, lasting damage to your body, and could even cause death.

You need enough calories and nutrients to nourish yourself and your baby - a couple of apples is barely enough to nourish a gerbil.

Please, look at a diet with a minimum of 1500 calories, balanced as I said earlier between protein, carbs and fruit and veg. That is the sensible way to diet.

[dreamingalone]

Tea- I can promise you i am 100percent serious. the point was i really needed to know the healthiest lowest amount of calories ican go i know its not the healthiest but icant help it. why would i make this up? i am so sorry if this comes across as a troll post :( what would i achieve? i just needed abit of advice. as i do want to keep breastfeeding. but its hard.

[muddylettuce]

I was always told you need carbs when breastfeeding...so I wouldn't cut them out. Why not try and eat good carbs, brown rice, pasta etc. You could try a baked sweet potato instead of white potato. It seems you've lost an awful lot of weight in a short space of time though? Perhaps too quickly... If you are certain you need to diet right now I would seek advice from your GP about the safest way to do it without impacting on your child.

[TeaAndFag]

You poor thing I don't have any diet advice i'm afraid as I tend to just eat whatever I fancy, but please, please, seek some help for your eating issues. Its not just yourself you have to consider here but also your baby who depends on you, but you already know that. Does your husband/partner know what you are doing?

[dreamingalone]

noblejiraff- i know its not enough thats why im looking for a better way. i used to have an eating disorder as a child but i recovered, having kids i tried my best to eat lots but i thought me eating healthy low calories through out the day would prevent a relapse..

[Rooners]

Sweetheart I understand your sentiments, believe me, I have anorexia...it's stabilised now and I am a 'healthy' weight but I still have issues.

I nearly died.

I think it's really important that you are in a position to teach your young baby how to eat properly in a realistic way.

No one can exist on air. Have you tried a 5:2 fasting program? Maybe that would give you enough of a hit and then you could eat the other days.

I'm sure you know what you're doing but it's at a bit of a risk. I hope you are aware it isn't what most people would consider 'Ok', it's basically going against your own poor body, and denying it what it needs. That's the worst thing about it really.

You're confusing it which will lead to it storing any fat it can get hold of, which I am sure you don't want to happen!

Anyway as I said it is completely up to you but I do understand.

[gamerchick]

jesus christ :(

i'm not going to persuade you to it eat. For your sake and your babies. put it on formula... that baby is taking what it needs right out of your bones.

[dreamingalone]

tea- Not at the momment. when i had my first i had a mini relapse but then i was fine.. why did you think i was a troll? is what im saying so wierdolike? i feel embarraaased now.. perhaps everyone is thinking im a troll , how can i confirm im not as im being honest. its hard dealing on my own.. so i gues its easier to share with strangers

[SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius]

You need a minimum of 500 extra calories when dieting - on top of a healthy number of calories for you!

Nutrition experts recommend that a breast feeding mother consumes 2700 calories a day.

One thing - promise me you won't drive whilst you are restricting your calorie intake so drastically - you would pose as great a danger on the road as a very drunk driver.

In fact it might help you to consider it thus. Eating so little, getting dizzy and lightheaded is like being drunk - and you are carrying your baby around and caring for them in that condition - how is that safe for your baby?

What if you get a dizzy spell at the top of the stairs and drop the baby? Could you forgive yourself?

[Rooners]

What I really want to say is, do it - if that's what you want to do, then do it. But you will get these side effects of course.

I think you'll be fine. You know your limits. You know the risks.

But no one here will tell you how to compensate enough to breastfeed because it's a bit of a stupid question! You can do it your way or do it the sensible grown up way, but trying to do both isn't going to work and I think you know that too (no offence x)

[SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius]

Dreaming alone - I am sorry, but I think your eating disorder is back.

Your diet is unhealthy, and your attitude to food is extremely disordered.

See your doctor tomorrow, please.

[dreamingalone]

gamer hes in a high weight centile even before he started food, im not a bad mum and im not starving him..and i havent been eating like this constantly

[ElphabaTheGreen]

Dreaming having done a quiet search on your username I notice you are suffering from PND. A 500 calorie per day diet made up of apples and coffee is not going to help. Neither is 2 hours of exercise. Your body will go into famine mode, you'll stop losing weight and your mood will plummet even more.

Please go to Slimming World, Weight Watchers or similar so you have sensible weight loss advice and a good support network. I would also suggest 1500 calories per day as a bare minimum, but this depends on your current size, shape, metabolism, activity levels etc etc. They will work all this out for you at one of theses groups.

All the best.

[Rooners]

and I don't think you're a troll. xx

[dreamingalone]

sdtg- honestly its not back its hard to explain but i feel the urge to return to my old ways so eating smal meals of low calorie i thougtht would help me

[Rooners]

Is weight watchers a good place for people with AN? Sorry I don't have a clue, I have never been to anything like that.

I mean - is it appropriate? I am not sure if it is.

[teaandthorazine]

I think there is more going on here than just an extreme diet.

Dreaming, you are going to make yourself terribly ill. No one here is going to advise you to do something so dangerous for you and, tbh, your baby.

Please go and see your GP.

[Gingersnap88]

Vitamin pills are not absorbed fully into the body. To get the vitamins that you and your baby need, you need to eat a healthy and varied diet.

You don't need to stop eating, that actually makes it harder for you to lose weight as your body thinks it's being starved (which it is).

You need to eat the right things. Fresh fruits and vegetables, nuts, whole grains, cheese, eggs, lean meat. You can eat plenty of good stuff which will give you energy, give your baby lots of vitamins and healthy fat and you'll lose weight. Win win!

Don't count calories, it's pointless as all bodies work differently. Just eat well. Please. What your saying is really very scary and potentially life threatening for your baby.

[PotteringAlong]

My lovely, this isn't a quirk, it's a serious eating disorder and you are kidding yourself if you think it isn't.

Your children need you healthy and they need to see you eating normally in order to have a healthy relationship around food.

Please, please go and see your GP.

[gamerchick]

do you understand what taking what he needs out of your bones means?

your eating disorder is back... if you want to be a good mother.. then go and get some help.

[dreamingalone]

Elpha- i will look into weight watcher. and yes on setriline for pnd. but to be honest i feel like its the setriline making my mind go back into restricting mode. i started to feel the urge to restrict when it was increased by 50mgs to 150mg