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Infant feeding

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LittleWaveyLines · 16/11/2011 14:21

Does this sound like your baby?

  1. Feeds frequently daytime
  2. Feeds frequently nighttime
  3. Needs to be constantly held
  4. Wont sleep alone
  5. Hates the car seat/pram
  6. Short naps

If so - join the club! :)

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LittleWaveyLines · 22/11/2011 09:58

Thanks Eaurouge. She seems ok today but I'll take her for a check up if she gets worse again.

Well we survived getting there and shopping, but she cried on the way back! I never know whether to stop and get her out (and have her cry again as soon as I put her back in) or just get home asap!

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Mampig · 22/11/2011 10:00

LWL- good luck with the shop! Ds has green poo on and off quite frequently and I think it's teething and also on the days he feeds even more (!) frequently than 2 hrly. I've stopped worrying about it tbh!
I think we might be feeling a bit more positive today ladies?
You tend to get days that you can cope better than others!
I had a blip last night as I tried to give bottle of ebm as small pre-bed top up and wee monkey wouldn't take it- first time that's ever happened!! Hope it's not a pattern! So I'll spend today pumping for more ebm to try another bottle tonight! Started weaning him and he loves it!! I'm doing blw primarily but I'm not a purist so he got some apple purée on a spoon while he swiped some carrot (nice combo!!). He was getting a little frustrated with the carrot tbh as he clearly just wanted to eat, it went in his eyes and everywhere!!Grin. So funny to watch tho as he got all excited about the food that he was allowed for a change!! Trying some sweet potato today!! Not doing baby rice as there's no actual nutrient in it, but so far he's coping really well with the albeit tiny amount that he got!Grin. Hope it's a good day for us all!!

Mampig · 22/11/2011 10:02

Oh you're back already!!! Good for u! I think I would just try to get home quick tbh!

SpannerPants · 22/11/2011 10:11

I bought a 2nd hand jumperoo from someone in our village and DS loves it, it allows me to put him down for 10 minutes Grin

Baby massage wasn't as bad as I thought it would be although he kept rolling over and it was difficult to grab him to put him back on his back because of the massage oil. He didn't cry, but he was much more interested in talking to the baby next to him.

Fingers crossed I'll have more success getting him to nap today, yesterday he only had 45 mins at 4pm.

Queenkong · 22/11/2011 10:16

I had a better night. Monkey woke at 12, 2 and 5 before waking for the day at 7:30. Each waking took less than 15 minutes to settle so am feeling slightly more human. Think we will go swimming later, as it tends to knacker him out he loves it.

tickleme63 · 22/11/2011 10:30

Unsettled night for my little man, last few nights he's ended up on my/DH's chest after 4am, just like he did as a newborn - so he's definitely regressed some. Worried he might be teething as well, very dribbly and lots of hand chewing, but no sign of anything yet.

I'm just hoping it's a phase, him being so grumpy all the time and sleeping even worse than normal. Managed to get him to take a dummy for the first time ever yesterday, and it really soothed him. Then a bit later I tried to pop it in again and it was as if he had never ever had it in his mouth before! Spitting it out and gagging... I know it happened, I took a picture as I was so shocked!

I love my little man more than anything, but I can't help wistfully thinking how amazing it would be if everything - hell, even one thing - wasn't such a battle: if he liked his pram or carseat, took a bottle happily, slept a little better, liked to play and be on his tummy... I'd settle for one thing!

That's a point - can I ask you ladies a question? My boy was 4 months this week. He still hates tummy time with a passion. He doesn't like to be put down for long, if at all. I'm at a loss as to how he will develop the strength and ability to roll, etc, if he spends so much time being held and am worried as he isn't really showing any desire to try to roll, or grab toys - he bats at them if they are dangling from his gym, but that lasts roughly 10 mins before he's fed up. Could you maybe set my mind at ease - I'm not hindering his development am I?

Glad you got your shop done ok LWL, and hope your little one is feeling better :) Mam, glad the weaning is going well, I'm really looking forward to that! Hope everyone else is good too!

LittleWaveyLines · 22/11/2011 10:31

We're all a bit more chipper today I think? Smile

Glad the massage went well Spanner, and that Queenkong had a better night.

Mampig - If we're within 10minutes I tend to just try to get home.

Right - well she's working up a grump atm as she's tired but wont nap. Hopefully it's a phase as ahe used to nap really well (on me after a feed) but she just wont nap at all ATM!

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buttonmoon78 · 22/11/2011 10:46

tickle none of mine have enjoyed tummy time - just makes them puke but they've all been fine. And if you think about it, in loads of places in the world babies are slung for a huge percentage of the time and yet they still crawl/walk within 'normal' ranges!

Baaaad evening last night - took ages to settle then woke at 11.30 and 3.50. First time was ok as he just fed and then slept but at 3.50 he thought it was party time. Brought him in with me where he thought it was great fun to keep pulling my nose Hmm

He woke up at about 5.30 but was quite happy until DD1 (never believe me if I whinge about her - she's an angel!) came in at 6 with a cuppa and took him away. I think my tiredness levels are all dependant on the evening not the night as that's not an atypical night but when I've spent all evening trying to calm him and get him to sleep I feel utterly knackered the next day.

Glad everyone's feeling a bit better - there seems to be a collective calming effect going on here!

Also, slighly Blush to admit it but I've discovered that ds loves the tv - he is mesmerised by it, even if its the news or something - he's not discerning!

Mampig · 22/11/2011 11:07

Button- tv works wonders for me too! There's even a baby tv channel that stimulates young babies! It's sky 623 if anyone wants to know! It gives me 10mins to clean/ tidy or even do make up if I'm in the mood!
Tickle- my others hated tummy time too! They all ended up bum shuffling instead of crawling- which is fine btw! Also never big into rolling either but again, didn't concern the HV at the time. Ds loves tummy time- they all different! My other kids were brill sleepers and ds isn't. Can't have it all I suppose!

buttonmoon78 · 22/11/2011 12:45

I think I am certifiable. Not only have I got ds today, I've got my friend's baby as she has food poisoning. Am a glutton for punishment and chocolate

fraktious · 22/11/2011 12:49

TV is wonderful the work of the devil Wink DS loves it too.

I've given up on trying to get him to sleep in his cot. He hates it so he's just in with us. This is probably creating a bad habit.

If we're relatively near home then I keep going and belt out nursery rhymes at the top of my voice. If we're a long way away I'll stop but I hate the moment where he realises he's going back in the instrument of torture and wails.

Am Angry because DH rang and neededto talk about something totally not urgent so DS woke after only half an hour. Grr.

tickleme63 · 22/11/2011 12:54

Yikes! Good luck Button! :)

DS has had the dummy in a little again today, I knew I wasn't hallucinating yesterday! Best part was I decided to try a little breastmilk in a MAM bottle as teat same as the dummy - not sure if he actually drank any but he didn't have a meltdown, and I call that progress compared to the last go!

Thanks button and mam for your reassurance - I'm looking forward to when DS spots something he likes and makes a very slow break for it! Grin

scottygirl5 · 22/11/2011 15:31

button - you are brave!

DD has only had one 40 minute nap today in a sling, she's now getting to that hyper stage where i know she really needs more sleep but i've no idea how to get her to do it, my shoulders can't cope with the sling again (wonder if i'm wearing it wrong?). Does everyone else hate books that tell you to just "put them down" as if they will then automatically drift off to sleep, does any baby really do that?!?

TitaniaP · 22/11/2011 15:38

The day is going ok so far - yesterday was awful though. We went to the Cranial Osteo this morning and he slept for 2 hours afterwards. Woke up at 2 and is now asleep again. Maybe I should have the appointments later on in the afternoon!

The Osteo really does seem to have sorted the screaming in the car - 2 weeks now with no screaming!

fraktious · 22/11/2011 15:46

What sling do you have? It shouldn't hurt Confused

scottygirl5 · 22/11/2011 15:57

fraktious - A baby bjorn. A friend lent me a tinokis too but I find it hard to put on.

TitaniaP - interested to know more about your cranio osteo, how many times do you have to go? Have been considering doing this too as i had a forceps delivery and someone said it might help with the continuous crying.

architien · 22/11/2011 15:59

I opened the thread to tell myself that my two are not that much work compared to others, but reading that list at the top both babas get a big tick next to each point. I thought all babies were like this. Maybe its ok to be this bushed after 3.5 years of constantly expecting or breastfeeding two babies that fit the above criteria because I've been convincing myself I'm tired because I'm a wuss and need to toughen up

tickleme63 · 22/11/2011 16:02

I'd be interested in hearing about the cranial osteopathy too, if you don't mind TitianaP - I had a traumatic forceps delivery and wonder if I should go and get DS checked over.

TitaniaP · 22/11/2011 16:14

Scottgirl5 - I've heard that baby bjorn's can be quite uncomfortable. I use a woven wrap if I'm going to be wearing for a while and a Soft structured carrier (SSC) if I need to carry him quickly or for short distances. You don't need two - one will suffice but they're so preeeety! The best thing is to see if there is a sling meet (google sling meet) near you for you to go along and try a few.

DS is screaming so will come back later with info on the Cranial Osteopath.

organiccarrotcake · 22/11/2011 16:21

Baby Bjorns are the work of the devil. Much worse than telly.

Maybe consider a Mei Tai as they're quite easy to learn. A stretchy wrap for a tummy to tummy front carry is ace for 4-5 months. Woven wraps are fab for back carries but you need help to learn how to use them, and quite a lot of practise.

Cranial Osteopathy is the work of the Gods. A good, paediatric CO is fab. My DS2 goes every 6 months - he got compression from 5 days of PROM despite an easy delivery and also his skull structure is such that treatment are helping his high arch palate (linked to tongue tie). Forceps often = compression and CO can be brilliant.

buttonmoon78 · 22/11/2011 16:30

I second the stretchy wrap. DS is now nearly 17lbs however and I'm not feeling quite so confident when he's really wriggly. Mind you, last time I wore him I wrapped much tighter and that helped. He's enjoying facing outwards now too which is a relief as his ever ready puking is aimed at other people rather than down my top

Baby Bjorns are hideous. Burn it. You will be set free! Grin

architien · 22/11/2011 16:34

I can third the stretchy wrap idea. I've got a close baby one which was just wonderful with DS1 unfortunately I've got awful back problems just now so I cant use it much with DD1 now so I spend less time getting the house straight than I did first time round

buttonmoon78 · 22/11/2011 16:42

I think that ds likes it better than a 'traditional' one like a bb as it keeps his legs (and arms previously) under control and he's def a snuggly baby. He still has to be full swaddled now at nearly 19wks, so I think the sensation of swinging free as it were Wink sent him doolally.

I don't know where I'd be without it tbh and I find that it hurts much less than the other type too. Because it's a wide piece of fabric you just spread the fabric as wide as you like over your shoulders to spread the weight. I can wear him for a long time before I start feeling tired and that's with a bad back and joint issues.

EauRouge · 22/11/2011 16:45

I hate Baby Bjorns. I've got a few different slings and my favourite is a ring sling- very simple to use and very comfortable if you get one made of nice soft fabric. Ebay is awash with second hand carriers. I want an Ergo next, I tried my friend's one on and it's so comfy, even with 9 mo DD2 who is enormous (in 12-18 mo sleepsuits). It's also easy to use, it's like a rucksack type set up but much better than a BB.

fraktious · 22/11/2011 16:50

Oh yes BBs are evil. I'm a woven gal with a RS for short up/downs and eyeing up a SSC.

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