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Infant feeding

Get advice and support with infant feeding from other users here.

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LittleWaveyLines · 16/11/2011 14:21

Does this sound like your baby?

  1. Feeds frequently daytime
  2. Feeds frequently nighttime
  3. Needs to be constantly held
  4. Wont sleep alone
  5. Hates the car seat/pram
  6. Short naps

If so - join the club! :)

OP posts:
tickleme63 · 13/01/2012 11:43

And just to add, he's fighting sleep now by blowing raspberries (his new trick) pretty much constantly. If it wasn't so funny I'd be tearing my hair out Grin

Bicnod · 13/01/2012 13:18

Queen - I had the exact same issue with my NCT group with DS1. All their babies were sleeping really well by about 3 months and they were convinced I was doing something wrong as DS1 wasn't. I used to come away feeling rubbish so decided to stop meeting up in the end. My NCT refresher group crowd with DS2 are far more normal - all of our babies are still waking several times a night to feed.

Tickle - hang in there - he will sleep through eventually. DS1 didn't start sleeping through consistently until January last year when he was 21 months old, but since then he has been a great sleeper and sleeps though most nights. It does feel like a long long dark tunnel when you're in it (I'm right there with you with DS2) but there will be an end to it and then it will be like every other parenting challenge - you'll forget how bad it was really quickly. Isn't it incredible how little sleep you can function on? I can't believe I'm currently getting by on between 3 and 5 hours of broken sleep a night Shock

JeewizzJen · 13/01/2012 16:19

I was wondering how far apart we all are too! I'm in east Dorset, anyone else down this way?

tickleme63 · 13/01/2012 16:27

Was just thinking - imagine the carnage if we did a meet up somewhere in the middle of us all, with our carseat-hating, frequent-feeding DCs Grin

I'm in Essex myself.

QueenKong · 13/01/2012 16:32

I'm in Kent.

LittleWaveyLines · 13/01/2012 16:54

Gloucestershire here

OP posts:
Bicnod · 13/01/2012 18:28

tickle Grin

London at the moment but moving to Hampshire at the end of the month (fingers, toes, arms and legs crossed)

JeewizzJen · 13/01/2012 19:56

Haha tickle, that is a funny image, isn't it! Grin

Going back a few posts... I feel your pain too tickle, bicnod, and anyone else! I am kinda used to it, but it does feel like I'm resigned to a life of never sleeping through the night again. This too shall pass I guess! I didn't realise there was another growth spurt at 6 months, that might explain DS's constant narkiness at the moment. Maybe!

On the plus side, I'm writing this on my laptop, in the living room, with DS having been on his own on the bed asleep for the past two hours for the second night running! Definitely beats typing on my phone, in an awkward position, in bed in the dark!

Also for the first time tonight, DS fed lying down on the bed, and then unlatched and spent 5 mins grizzling next to me before falling off to sleep on his own! That's never happened before, he's always fallen asleep on the boob, or having been rocked by me then put down. Be great if he gets into that habit!!

Mampig · 13/01/2012 22:06

Hi all! Thanks 4 arm punches, and moral supportSmile. Too knackered to reply to everyone individuallySad, but everyones posts ring so true to me too. Sleep (lack of), dh and trusting ourselves more. Now that I'm back to work, the plus side is regular breaks and lunch, and the adult contact is great. My colleagues are very supportive and understanding re bf and all the tiredness, so I can't complain too much. Haven't went to management tho, as it's not good timing with deadlines etc, so will see how things go- just gonna try to get to bed earlier when I'm at home.
Dh treated me to a proper nursing chair, bit weird after 4 babies lol, but it's the best thing ever!!! Sooo comfy for feeds and for easing ds to sleep- often fall asleep in it myself!

Hope u all get some decent sleep tonight!! God- I really would love a full night sleep- have forgotten what it's like....good luck all- oh and I'm in N Ireland- so no chance of me joining the hn circus big meet if it happensSmile

SpannerPants · 14/01/2012 16:38

I'm in Leicester.

I was letting DS have a good chomp on my thumb yesterday and as he was moving it around my mouth I realised he's got a tongue tie! It's towards the back of where the tongue attaches. I wonder if this is why he wouldn't latch on until he was 19 weeks?

Does anything need to be done about it? His latch has never been perfect, he seems to take in quite a bit of air and burps/possets a lot but my nipples are ok (not painful during a feed or misshapen after a feed).

Funnily enough, DP has a very similar looking tongue tie but he was bottle fed so I guess it wasn't such a problem for him!

buttonmoon78 · 15/01/2012 08:04

Morning all!

spanner I guess it's whether it's severe enough to impact on his chewing and then on his speech later. I know plenty of people who have unsnipped TTs and they've never had a problem though. I would If I were you I'd ask for a referral to check as it would be much less traumatic to have it done sooner rather than later I reckon.

Stoke on Trent here. A long way up in the grim noth from the rest of you (spanner excluded).

Ds full on rolling all the time now. He thinks he's so clever its so cute!

TitaniaP · 15/01/2012 23:06

Evening. I'm in Birmingham - so joining button and Spanner in the cold north ( well midlands really). We've had a mixed few days here. Some great some awful. DS is really starting to move around now and this evening I put him to bed (our bed) on his back with his head at the head end and came up (after some screaming) to find him on his front facing the foot end of the bed. Argh - the requirement to get him into his own cot (the plan hasn't been going well as we've had some horrific nights and I'm shattered) has just increased. He's also rolled onto his tummy to sleep for the first time. I know it's ok once they can roll - but it does scare me a little...

Anyway maybe he'll sleep better on his front ( everything crossed!!)

Hope you all had good weekends.

buttonmoon78 · 16/01/2012 07:32

Urgh. Terrible nights here.

Still, the great news is I'm an auntie again! SiL had ds2 on Sat am at home after 80 mins of contractions! Since she had a terrible time last time - big baby, op, forceps, blood transfusion, mucho damage etc I'm really pleased that this time was so 'easy'. She was all stressed out about it being the same again so the fact it was so quick and that her dh had to deliver him was a bit of a happy shock I think! Apparently the ambulance turned up just as it was all over and ds1 poddled into the kitchen just as the placenta was being delivered. A couple of hours later when I spoke to her she was in bed awaiting bacon and eggs cooked by said husband with small baby asleep on her. I did shed a little tear!

JeewizzJen · 16/01/2012 08:39

Awww Congrats Auntie button! Grin

We've had a couple of crap nights too with DS waking every hour - wtf???

Titania - I'm really worried about DS starting to move around the bed more too, I probably should be trying to get him into his own bed too, but I can't face it while he's sleeping so badly. Last night was so bad in fact I ended up with him sleeping on my chest from midnight as it was the only way I could get him back to sleep!

I can't work out any reason for the last couple of bad nights, most frustrating. I wonder if it has to do with digesting all this new food?

TitaniaP · 16/01/2012 09:11

Aww that's a lovely story button. Congrats to your SIL and family. I had DS at home and stories like that almost make me broody (not broody enough though!). Awful night here - tummy sleeping didn't help and DS was wide awake at 5. Grrrr. Still he had a very solid nappy this morning so have taken buttons advice and he's had ripe banana with his breakfast. I think he must have had a sore tum poor thing.

Queen - I meant to say that I've not been to the last couple of NCT meetups as I can't deal with the competitiveness. I'be found some lovely friends through my local sling meet instead.

tickleme63 · 16/01/2012 10:18

Yay, congrats Auntie Button :) What a lovely story. Congrats to your SIL and family too! Agree Titania, makes me feel broody as well, hehe! I would love a birth like that next time. We had the complete opposite birth that we had 'planned' for (as far as you can plan these things...) and I still feel very sad about it sometimes - knowing that my little man was getting distressed and needed to be born quickly, when we had hoped for this calm, relaxed and peaceful entrance to the world. Not sure where I'm going with this... Just one more thing to feel guilty about I suppose.

We had a good night last night. Down at 7.30pm, up at 1am for a feed, then down till about 3.30/4am, fed, down till 6.30am, fed and then joined us in bed till 7.45am. Got my mother-in-law coming over later today, she's here till Wednesday... (thank you sooo much DH for arranging her visit when you're at work) Not too happy about it - she's perfectly lovely, but can be quite hard work and a bit crazy. But at least it's an extra pair of hands to help with the little one.

Been doing a bit more BLW with DS, he is a big fan of cucumber sticks :) Out of curiosity I tried him with one of those purée pouches, but he turned his nose up - don't blame him to be honest, it looked vile... Will stick with BLW I think :)

Hope you all have a lovely day!

QueenKong · 16/01/2012 11:16

Woo hoo, a tiny squidgey baby! Congrats buttonmoon!

Well, stop the press. DS is asleep in his cot for the first time ever! It took me over an hour of picking up and putting down but he has been down for 40 minutes! Lost the plot last night when he wouldn't let me perv over Sherlock and decided I had to start making some progress somewhere. So chose first nap of the day as that seems to be his most consistent. Actually wasn't too bad. Let him kick around in his cot until he got grizzly. Then gave him a feed and put him back then just kept picking him up when he started proper crying. 4th or 5th time he just rolled over and stayed asleep. I was Shocked!

Tickleme, DS loves cucumber too. Odd choice I thought! Gave him a roast yesterday and he mainly munched on the spuds and Yorkshire pudding. Also tried him on a couple of Ella's kitchen pouches and he wasn't at all in to them.

QueenKong · 16/01/2012 11:29

He's done an hour now. Beginning to think someone has been in and swapped my baby...

TitaniaP · 16/01/2012 11:40

Go babyQueen!

Queen - you have inspired me! I may try that tonight. DS also interrupted sherlock last night with his bedroom acrobatics. Its simply not on is it?

I am feeling much better as DS had a two hour nap this morning and I went back to bed at the same time so feel a bit more human!

It's amazing just how rubbish I feel when I'm tired. I get all weepy and miserable. A few hours sleep makes so much difference!

tickleme63 · 16/01/2012 14:58

Ooh nice one BabyQueen :)

It's actually not been too bad so far with MIL, luckily my dad and brother are here too at the moment, so it's a bit of a full house! Only problem is getting DS to concentrate on his milk! Sprayage galore...

I missed Sherlock last night, we've Sky +'d it - been watching the first series as we missed it - how bloody good is it Grin

buttonmoon78 · 18/01/2012 07:44

Morning! Two good nights so I feel human again. Thanks for all congrats!

Apologies in advance for the essay... The appointment on Monday was very odd Confused I saw the registrar not our consultant and asked for skin prick allergy testing. Then we went to see the dietician. In the meantime the reg spoke to the con who said no to testing. Dietician opened the file (where the 'no' was recorded) raised her eyebrows and retook all his history (again). At the end she said 'why on earth has she said no? He's having type 1 allergic reactions'. So the upshot is, the reg came back, admitted she'd probably not told the consultant about his reactions in quite the same terms I had used and he's being referred for skin prick testing.

The saga continues though as we had to go back to the gp to get the referral for that. When I said what I wanted (again having gone through his history again again again!) He said 'so what are you hoping to achieve by this?' Hmm

Erm... what?! To see if he's allergic to anything, or at least the most common allergens, says I, with a face like this Hmm. He said 'but he's already weaning, he must have a range of things you know he can safely eat?' Yes, seven things says I Hmm He said it was an awful lot to put a baby through. Less than an anaphylactic reaction says I Hmm. To be fair, it's unlikely, but not outside the bounds of possibility as he's already having type 1 reactions.

So we're onto a new regime (suggested by the consultant who didn't think there was a need for testing initially Hmm) where we try new foods only within office hours (for better ambulance times) and with a bottle of piriton to hand. But she didn't want to panic me Hmm. I spent so much time with my eyebrows raised on Monday that they hurt by the end of the day!

Anyway, we tried fish yesterday under the new regime and that was fine - another one down! Smile

buttonmoon78 · 18/01/2012 07:45
QueenKong · 18/01/2012 09:13

God how frustrating. I'm surprised you managed to keep your cool, well done. I think I would have ended up blubbering, I always do when I have to think of anything being wrong with DS. I'm a total wimp.

Well, although I can get him to nap in his cot now, it isn't without tears. I never let him get too distressed but he basically does just get so knackered that he gives up and goes to sleep. Trouble is, I've now read so much on AP (to vindicate all the co-sleeping, clingyness etc) that I now think I must be doing him harm by letting him wail even a little and that by making him sleep in the cot I am not meeting his needs. I don't know whether to persevere with it or give him what he wants (me/boob). He was extra whingey yesterday and managed to convince myself it was due to all the PUPD I had been doing. Argh. It's a minefield. Any thoughts?

TitaniaP · 18/01/2012 09:14

Button - how pants all that sounds. Poor babybutton. I hope it starts to get better soon. I do wonder sometimes about these consultants.

TitaniaP · 18/01/2012 09:29

Queen - I have a theory that as you as you give birth a hormone is released that make you feel guilty about everything. I'm the worst person to talk as I spend far to much time feeling guilty about DSs weight ( if he was FF then he'd be bigger, but I'd then feel guilty for FF). It's never ending, DSs fave foods are bread and yoghurt. Wheat and dairy. Which if you believe some things I've read are things that we should limit in our diets. He also likes baby rice cakes, and then I read somewhere that rice can contain arsenic. Not really sure what my point is but I think what I'm trying to say is that no matter what you do you feel guilty. I think all you can do is meet their needs as much as possible whilst still remaining sane yourself.

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