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Common racist comments you hear in 2023?

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SleepDreamThinkHuge · 28/04/2023 06:48

Compared to 30 years ago, how is racism different today?

For me, racism terms such as the n word p word are less used than they were 30 years ago. However, people have looked at other avenues. See comments below.

  1. "You have a chip over your shoulder" every time someone mentions racism or their lived experience it goes straight to denial mode. You are blamed for your lived experiences and told to get over it and how UK is not racist.

  2. "The UK abolished slavery. slavery was a long time ago." Every time someone tries to put forward a view of reparations of people who are still suffering from the effects of slavery they are shut down. "that was a long time ago we have changed and evolved."

  3. "I feel like a foreigner in my own country." Which is probably one of the most stupid statements considering that over 80 percent of the population is white. I always answer if you feel like a foreigner how do minorities feel?

  4. "name the racists" commonly said for Megan Markle that she should name the racists she claimed in the Royal family. But lets be honest if you did that the other person in whatever circumstance would just deny it and ultimately you will not be believed and be called someone who plays the race card and tarnishing other people's careers.

  5. "Why do black people have their own spaces if white people had it we would be accused of racism" This is commonly said by the same people who are not as vocal when other groups have their own space e.g. women, LGBT groups etc.. It just seems like whenever black people have their own space people have to put them down. Take Ngozi Fulani the media made it seem she was the bad person people argued why her charity helps black people suffering from domestic abuse. Sad how she was forced out Sistah Space due to the abuse she faced but the media never mention that and the racism she had to face.

  6. "Racism exists in all communities" this is another common one used and is a whataboutery technique. We have seen this with people like Kanye, KSI recently but what people forget there was a lot of criticism from the black community with their actions. So to suggest the black community or any other community does not do anything about racism is for the birds.

  7. "My best friend is black" This is something you would hear from the EDL or Britain First. But you would be surprised how often you hear this by a lot of people. Just because your friend or relative is black, Muslim, Asian etc does not mean you cannot be racist. Even if you are a white mother and your child is mixed race does not mean you cannot be racist. It is baffling how a lot of people seem to forget this and think that my saying I cannot be racist because of this automatically means they cannot.

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HadalyEve · 26/07/2023 00:14

PinotGroggio · 25/07/2023 19:39

Oh god, I just read the thread about the bus incident on WFWR and the amount of deleted posts make me think it was racists' day out.

Again.

I still remember that last thread on FWR. It’s a cesspit.
You’ve got me tempted to look, but I think I will pass this time.

Reugny · 26/07/2023 09:21

PinotGroggio · 25/07/2023 19:39

Oh god, I just read the thread about the bus incident on WFWR and the amount of deleted posts make me think it was racists' day out.

Again.

You need to protect your mental health so it is worth staying away from any thread elsewhere on MN where you know the story involves a black or brown woman.

LadyKenya · 26/07/2023 09:47

I agree@Reugny . I just do not bother going on those types of threads, or the "I don't know if what so, and so said is racist, is it"? I have had enough of reading garbage that is not conducive to my mental health well being, which also will have an impact on physical well being.

HadalyEve · 26/07/2023 10:31

I dip in and out of those threads when my MH is ok and I am feeling particularly strong and able to give a few home truths. I also change my username for those as it feels like armour to me? If that makes sense?

Certain (racist) posters seem to clock usernames and I don’t want to deal with them deciding to have it in for me on other threads about nothing to do with racism because they know I am Black. I’ve observed during my lurking days some inexplicably poor treatment of posters from Black MNetters on other boards and that has led me to feel I need an extra layer of protection if engaging on matters of racism and race on MN.

Socrateswasrightaboutvoting · 28/07/2023 16:28

I have been pleasantly surprised to see a few people calling out the treatment of Black Mumsnetters on the thread about the bus incident. Not sure why you would post in that part of the forum if you really cared about the woman and her child. But hey ho.

PinkFrogss · 31/07/2023 18:41

Socrateswasrightaboutvoting · 28/07/2023 16:28

I have been pleasantly surprised to see a few people calling out the treatment of Black Mumsnetters on the thread about the bus incident. Not sure why you would post in that part of the forum if you really cared about the woman and her child. But hey ho.

You and others have been amazing on that thread. I simply don’t have the patience Angry

Socrateswasrightaboutvoting · 31/07/2023 21:44

PinkFrogss · 31/07/2023 18:41

You and others have been amazing on that thread. I simply don’t have the patience Angry

Thank you. I go through phases where I can be bothered (now) and others where Its just too much to engage. Even I had to draw the line when the donut started trying to defend the Royal Family threads.

PinkFrogss · 31/07/2023 22:02

For the sake of my blood pressure I’ve had to block the royal family threads from appearing in active Hmm

Socrateswasrightaboutvoting · 01/08/2023 00:42

PinkFrogss · 31/07/2023 22:02

For the sake of my blood pressure I’ve had to block the royal family threads from appearing in active Hmm

The Royal family threads are not for the faint hearted, or those with a moral compass! I am thankful to the Donut for her enlightenment. Were it not for her, we would not know that we have not done enough research to prove racism exists on Mumsnet. As she states, we have not presented her with, in her own words, 'receipts'. If there is racism on Mumsnet it is absolutely not from women it is men pretending to be women, especially on the Royal Family and Feminism forums. My favourite line is that I personally have not done enough to combat racism... You could not script it!

Reugny · 01/08/2023 10:06

Socrateswasrightaboutvoting · 01/08/2023 00:42

The Royal family threads are not for the faint hearted, or those with a moral compass! I am thankful to the Donut for her enlightenment. Were it not for her, we would not know that we have not done enough research to prove racism exists on Mumsnet. As she states, we have not presented her with, in her own words, 'receipts'. If there is racism on Mumsnet it is absolutely not from women it is men pretending to be women, especially on the Royal Family and Feminism forums. My favourite line is that I personally have not done enough to combat racism... You could not script it!

It's not from women!?!

While on the internet it isn't possible to know the sex of individuals in rl myself, like lots of black women, have encountered a lot of racist from other women in different aspects of our lives.

FrenchandSaunders · 01/08/2023 10:11

People who I regard as close friends, or did, referred to the London Mayor as 'p**i Khan' at a party at the weekend. We were all talking about ULEZ. Whatever your views on that are .... I was stunned to hear this.

Socrateswasrightaboutvoting · 01/08/2023 11:47

Reugny · 01/08/2023 10:06

It's not from women!?!

While on the internet it isn't possible to know the sex of individuals in rl myself, like lots of black women, have encountered a lot of racist from other women in different aspects of our lives.

Right! When it has come from men it is usually overt. From the women it's often accompanied with a smile to your face and a knife in your back and somehow you are the problem if you challenge it.

Socrateswasrightaboutvoting · 01/08/2023 12:05

FrenchandSaunders · 01/08/2023 10:11

People who I regard as close friends, or did, referred to the London Mayor as 'p**i Khan' at a party at the weekend. We were all talking about ULEZ. Whatever your views on that are .... I was stunned to hear this.

Sadly, people love to out themselves and it's never the ones you expect. Lets face it, Rishi not getting in first time round was all about his politics...

PinotGroggio · 01/08/2023 17:01

FrenchandSaunders · 01/08/2023 10:11

People who I regard as close friends, or did, referred to the London Mayor as 'p**i Khan' at a party at the weekend. We were all talking about ULEZ. Whatever your views on that are .... I was stunned to hear this.

WOW 😱

PinkFrogss · 02/08/2023 07:57

FrenchandSaunders · 01/08/2023 10:11

People who I regard as close friends, or did, referred to the London Mayor as 'p**i Khan' at a party at the weekend. We were all talking about ULEZ. Whatever your views on that are .... I was stunned to hear this.

On another board you’d probably get called the thought police for judging that.

I got called the thought police for saying I wouldn’t be friends with people who make racist comments Hmm

PinotGroggio · 02/08/2023 09:32

Oh yes @PinkFrogss, "it's just the shortened version of Pakistani", "but how come you're allowed to say Brit?" etc etc ad nauseum

LadyKenya · 02/08/2023 09:48

PinotGroggio · 02/08/2023 09:32

Oh yes @PinkFrogss, "it's just the shortened version of Pakistani", "but how come you're allowed to say Brit?" etc etc ad nauseum

All the while totally being unable, or unwilling to grasp the fact that the P word is used as an insult, and to demean a person. Even if the difference is explained.Hmm

PinkFrogss · 02/08/2023 10:45

Don’t forget that also means you want freedom of speech rights eroded and some sort of reference to 1984. Because of course not tolerating racist language means you dream of living in an Orwellian dystopia Grin

Socrateswasrightaboutvoting · 02/08/2023 20:22

PinkFrogss · 02/08/2023 10:45

Don’t forget that also means you want freedom of speech rights eroded and some sort of reference to 1984. Because of course not tolerating racist language means you dream of living in an Orwellian dystopia Grin

So true. Sadly 'freedom of speech' has become the war cry of bigots and oppressors.

LadyKenya · 07/08/2023 10:01

The more I learn about what is going on in this Country regarding racism, the worse it feels sometimes having that knowledge@Reugny . I am at present reading The Voice 40 years of Black British lives, and it is disturbing to think that things have not really changed in all that time. Young black children, especially boys are still being harassed trying to get to school, or just to the local shop. Child Q was not an isolated case, we now know. It goes on, and on. The police commissioner is nothing but a limp mouthpiece spouting nonsense for the Met. As a black person, I would never trust the police.

AnAngelAtMyTableWithMe · 07/08/2023 13:55

Thanks for sharing @Reugny and we still get people saying Britain isn;t institutionally racist. That was pretty hard to read, but important.

HadalyEve · 08/08/2023 14:59

I did know about the batons and associated brutality by which the BLM protesters were treated by the Met and have often called out the difference between how we were treated compared to the XR, Insulate Britain and JSO protesters have been treated. Usually met with denial or victim blaming.

Anyway, about to get a pasting after saying that a poster comparing the trans flag to the confederate flag was doing toxic white feminism by conflating trans ideology to slavery.

PinotGroggio · 08/08/2023 16:12

HadalyEve · 08/08/2023 14:59

I did know about the batons and associated brutality by which the BLM protesters were treated by the Met and have often called out the difference between how we were treated compared to the XR, Insulate Britain and JSO protesters have been treated. Usually met with denial or victim blaming.

Anyway, about to get a pasting after saying that a poster comparing the trans flag to the confederate flag was doing toxic white feminism by conflating trans ideology to slavery.

WTF? I'm gender-critical but that is ridiculous!

PinotGroggio · 08/08/2023 16:12

Ridiculous that someone made that comparison that is.

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