[quote samosamo]@Veterinari
You are completely out of order in my opinion.
You come onto the board, not to simply answer the question, but to critique the OPs question. How dare you?
She then unequivocally shows you that she did not centre white women, and rather than apologise for the accusation, you say 'fair enough' and then continue to pile in? Next time read carefully. You can't have a proper conversation if you don't listen.
It's disgraceful behaviour.
You also accuse the OP of somehow making white women who do not frequent the board to be drawn to the board, simply because she asked a question that she was interested in on Black MN, her being a self-identified black woman. So her question was not to your liking? Incorrigible.
It's also myopic. Think about it, if OP had posted on general mumsnet 'what would make white women post on Black MN?' they would respond 'we're not!". It's not the population she was musing about. It made perfect sense to post on Black MN as the white women she was wondering about WERE THERE! Op did not place the topic in Active.
She was right about punching down. I've just done it with you and it doesn't feel good at all. But unfortunately necessary.
Feel free to get off our board, as you have derailed with your nit picking. You give the non-black women who have posted constructively here a bad rep. Go criticise black women elsewhere before we report you for not respecting the spirit of this place.[/quote]
I had left the thread as I didn't want to derail it as I think it's valuable. But as you've turned this into a personal attack, I feel like I ought to respond
You come onto the board, not to simply answer the question, but to critique the OPs question. How dare you?
Where exactly did I critique the OP’s question? This is a discussion forum, she’s perfectly entitled to ask whatever question she likes. Other people are perfectly entitled to respond. As long as it’s within the talk guidelines, that’s how the site works. Or are you equating a question with a criticism? The two are not equivalent.
She then unequivocally shows you that she did not centre white women, and rather than apologise for the accusation, you say 'fair enough' and then continue to pile in? Next time read carefully. You can't have a proper conversation if you don't listen.
Ok centring nay not have been the right word so sorry if that’s triggered your rather unnecessary rage, but the OP certainly asked ‘if it's called Black Mumsnetters, why might non-black women want to post? I can see why they might want to lurk and read, but what might make you want to be visible, present and contributing to that space?’
Which indicates she’s seeking responses from non-black women. She answered my question and clarified this to me and I responded with ‘fair enough’ as it made sense. Again, you seem to confusing questioning with attacking.
It’s also worth noting that neither the OP nor myself assumed that non-black is equivalent to white. We both recognise it isn’t. You however seem to have substituted white for non-black in your post. It’s worth remembering that the two aren’t the same.
You also accuse the OP of somehow making white women who do not frequent the board to be drawn to the board, simply because she asked a question that she was interested in on Black MN, her being a self-identified black woman. So her question was not to your liking?
I’ve not commented on her actual question in any way, so no idea why you’ve assumed that it's not to my liking
I actually think it’s a perfectly reasonable question. My so-called ‘accusation’ was based on my own direct experience of being a non-black poster drawn to the board by the OP’s post, and from reading the thread and seeing similar reported experiences. So by stating that non-black posters are being drawn to the board I’m simply reporting my own lived experience. That is neither false, an accusation nor incorrigible.
Incorrigible.
I’m not sure that incorrigible means what you think it means - it simply means unchanging.
It's also myopic. Think about it, if OP had posted on general mumsnet 'what would make white women post on Black MN?' they would respond 'we're not!". It's not the population she was musing about. It made perfect sense to post on Black MN as the white women she was wondering about WERE THERE! Op did not place the topic in Active.
Yep fair enough. She could also ask for the board to be hidden from active if it becomes a problem. Or am I not allowed to make helpful suggestions?
She was right about punching down. I've just done it with you and it doesn't feel good at all. But unfortunately necessary.
Your choices and behaviour are under your control, not mine. You chose to attack me, make accusations and call me names. Based mostly I think on entirely misunderstanding my questions and intentions. Your choice.
Feel free to get off our board, as you have derailed with your nit picking. You give the non-black women who have posted constructively here a bad rep.
I had actually already left - you brought me back by tagging me in a post so that you could call me names. At the risk of being incorrigible I’d suggest that tagging someone in a post probably doesn’t achieve your objective of discouraging them from posting.
Go criticise black women elsewhere before we report you for not respecting the spirit of this place.
I haven’t actually criticised anyone on this thread, I asked some questions and the OP was kind enough to take time to answer. You’re the one throwing around personal insults and criticism. Feel free to report me if you feel that I’ve broken the talk guidelines, but you might actually want to read them first.