###March 2011### Let's get the ball rolling!

[BUnderTheBonnet]

Hi,

Is anyone expecting a March baby?

I've just found out I'm pg following a mc in April at 12 weeks, so I need some company

BUnderTheBonnet pg#2 (DD4) EDD 1/3/11

feel a bit better after eating a packet of quavers.

Now, does anyone want to do my photoshoot for me?

welcome sarahmia I'm so sorry for your loss of your 2nd baby, I'm glad things are going well in this pregnancy.

I have a scan this morning, it's my gynae scan to check for pcos booked before pregnancy but I'm hoping to get a little look at bean
Also I hope I haven't got cysts or anything wrong down there.
I seem to have got ms within the last 2 days have felt nauseous pretty much all day.

Quavers... that has made me gag!

Feeling good today, woke up with energy for once, but already ready for a nap. Such a shame I have a full week of work really. no new symptoms. Looking chubby around my belly, fortunately rest of body not so bad. I think a lot of it is bloating, i really struggle to digest my meals! Well bloating and the odd ice-cream hehe.

SFB your photo shoot sounds awkward, i'm a prude, i'd be all bumbly and shy!!

Oh god has anyone else ventured onto the childbirth thread?! EEEEK dont think i was ready to read the realities of it yet. Although it has made me wonder what sort of birth i really want. I dont want a very medicalised one, maybe water, MLU sort of thing...or maybe a home one! (but we have just had new carpet in so not sure it is sensible hehe)

Coraltoes - try not to worry about the birth!
You might be lucky and have an 'easy' labour, you might not!

Every woman, pregnancy and birth is different. I have had 2 shitty ones so don't talk to me
but I have also known lots of women to have really good ones.
I was terrible with PG #1 - I read a trillion stories. Turned out the actual birth I had was like none of the ones I read about

As for tonights photoshoot - I am doing a wedding later in the month and the bride has asked for a 'bridal boudoir' session tonight. It's provocative but not pornographic.
Essentially - it's glamour wearing a veil!
It's not the sort of thing I usually do and I am concerned about the 'technical' stuff, ie, what lighting to use, light/backdrop positioning etc. It's not the fanjos and norks I am worried about!

good luck me23. Don't know anything about pcos scans, but I hope you get a look at bean too.

Hi sarahmia
No wonder you are terrified, I hope everything goes well this time round. Is it a genetic thing, or just 'one of those things'? I have never heard of triploidy before.
Can they identify it early on?

Hello all,
Back from The Big Chill in one piece! DD had a fabulous time running about like a crazy thing and boogying to the music, though I was constantly worried about damaging her ears. There were so many good little toddlers there wearing ear defenders without complaining- I got a pink pair within 10 yards of her and she started complaining! (well, shaking her head and waggling her fingers at me!) My god I slept well last night back in my own bed, without the thump of bass line in the background or the noise of other people's children screaming at 1.30am. It was kind of nice to wake, think "no, it's not mine" feel a bit sorry for the parents and then try to doze back off!

Madas glad that your camping went well! Wind and rain are not the best for holidays under canvas- did you get some sunshine too?

I am feeling pretty normal again now, which is making me a bit worried. Of course, I am pleased that I am not feeling sick all the time, and I am having a bit of sickness if I let myself get hungry, but mostly am feeling totally the same as I usually do. Am almost equally looking forward to/dreading 12 weeks scan- sure its the same worries as all of you have too!

Hi sarahmia congratulations on your pregnancy. Our first DD was diagnosed with Hypoplastic Left Heart syndrome at 21 weeks and we decided to let her be born and die at 23 weeks. It is such a difficult thing to go through- you are very brave to be ready to have another go. I found my second pregnancy very stressful after that, but had lots of extra care and support because of it. It sounds like you are getting the same, I hope you are finding it reasssuring. It is totally normal to be terrified!

I've got my nuchal on the 16th Aug and just had the letter through for the first heart scan on the 12th Sept. I won't really let myself believe that all is really going to be well until we have had that.

Nice to hear some good news that we are all starting to have good scans, see heart beats and wiggly little babies!

bluebeach I nearly fell off my chair laughing about the 2 inch in technique! I am going for full on abstinence, tbh. My mc happened after I had sex, and although I know it wasn't related, I just can't bring myself to do it. Maybe later. DH is missing it though....

sfb Also laughing at your photo shoot. I must admit I fancied one of those pre-wedding, but never took the plunge. Not happening now.... And quavers are yummy and the complete cure for ms. Along with salt and vinegar pringles. And ready made jelly.

Coraltoes I am a homebirth evangelist! Definitely fine for first timers - ignore any advice to the contrary, and have a look at www.homebirth.org.uk As for horror birth stories, I recommend Ina May Gaskin's Guide to Childbirth and Spiritual Midwifery as a complete antidote. They're a bit "knit your own sandals" hippyish, but full of really positive natural birth stories, and hints about childbirth. My DH found the bits I read to him very helpful, and they've got lots of stuff about birthing partners as well. As for carpets, cover them! I used two cheep king size duvets taped together with a waterproof decorating sheet inbetween. They were really comfy to kneel on, and I could drag them round the house with me. I threw them away after.

That's a good idea about the duvets Bunder. I've had my scan date this morning, 7 Sept, I'll be 12+2. We get nuchal on the nhs now, didn't 2 years ago.

My MS has kicked in properly now, pretty much the same as last time, constant mild nausea esp if I haven't eaten but no vomiting.

coraltoes deffo think about the homebirth BunderTheBonnet has given some great reading ideas they have been essential to me during my training to be a midwife.

I saw bean today heart beating away nicely everything appeared normal I'm 7+4 not 7+6 as lmp suggested.

also she saw no sign of polycystic ovaries so was all good.

*shitforbrains (feel a bit rude writing that ;)) thank g-d its not genetic it was just a random chromosonal deformity. It happened when the cells split. They found it at 12 weeks and it was pretty profound, it was my first scan so i dont know if they would have caught it earlier, as time went on the growth seemed to slow down drastically which is a big sign, but there are other signs too.
Saw an amazing dr pandya. he is an expert and really great.
jeffily what happens if a baby has Hypoplastic Left Heart syndrome? Yes it was really very difficult and im finding this pregnancy really hard and its only been 9 and a half weeks.
not feeling very "pregnant" today so have obviously convinced myself od the worst.

yay for heartbeat Me23 !!!

I'll take a look at those sites at home BUnderT , thank you. I need to give it a lot of thought. I am a bit nervous about home births just because obviously birth is a massive unknown with a first pregnancy...and i'd rather be armed with some experience i think. This is what is making me think maybe a MLU in our local hospital (a lot of choices here actually), where the rooms are less clinical than say a normal delivery ward, but emergency help is at hand if you need it. By the same token though, i dont then want to linger in a post natal ward and think recovering at home would be so much more natural and comfortable, as long as birth was straightforward...but i need to read a lot more before deciding. I dont want fear to be a decisive factor, thats for sure, and nothing kills fear more than arming yourself with information good job we get 9 months to think abotu it all! haha

and sorry, i was being glib about the carpets! I would just put lots of sheets down

need to change edd as got new date from scan due on 24/3 now, though only 5% babies come on that date I was 38+5 weeks with dd so hopefully smilar this time.

27/02 Muser pg#1 12wk scan 16/08/10
01/03 BunderTheBonnet pg#2 (DD3) Kent. Scan 20/8
01/03 Snapdragon3 pg#9 (MMC, DD 3, DS 2, 5 MC) anomaly scan 21/10 GTT 29/11
02/03 Mendipgirl pg#2 (DD1) Scan 18th Aug
02/03 AfterIVF pg#1
03/03 Madasajarofwasps pg#3 (DD1 5 DD2 3) Worcester.
03/03 Celia76 pg#3 (DS1 5 & DS2 almost 3)
05/03 Hattie05 pg5 (DD1 7, DD2 3, no. 3 mc, DD3 7mths)
04/03 Spilttheteagain pg#1 MW Booking in 05/08, dating scan 13/08
04/03 Bluebeach pg#1 dating scan 20/08
04/03 Jeffily pg#3,(DD1 angel baby, DD2 15months)
04/03 Sam2Oscar DC2
07/03 Superpenguin pg#1
07/03 Mixedmama pg#3 (DS1 4.5 and DS2 2.5) London. Scan 23/8
07/03 Flower11 pg#1
08/03 Oceanbreeze pg#1 Booking in 4/8. Scan 29/8
09/03 Penguindreams #1 & 2!
09/03 Pushmepullyou pg#4 3MC, DD20 mo
10/03 EvianBaby pg#2 (DS1 Oct 08)
10/03 Coraltoes pg#1 booking in 11/8/10.
10/03 Sevenbubbles pg#2 (DD1 23.5 months) booking in 02/08/10
10/03 Mama2LeahandAisha pg#3 (DD2, DD1)
13/03 Polkadottytotty pg#3 (DS1 5.5 and DS2 3.5). Scan 30/08
14/03 Shitforbrains pg#3 (DS1 3 DS2 1)
16/03 Gemmasetters pg#2 (DD 2.5)
17/03 KateandEmsMum pg#5 (DD 3, DD 10 Months)
17/03 MsLucy pg#3 (DS5, DS18mths) North London
17/03 MrsMullen pg#1
18/03 EvaLongoria pg#2
18/03 Campervanfan pg#2 (DD 20 months)
20/03 Kagey pg#2 (DD Sept 08)
22/03 NoSleepTonight pg#3 (DS1 5.8, DS2 15months)
22/03 Purplefan pg#2 (DD 4.5)
24/03 Snotdroolanddirtybums pg#4 (5, 3 and 2)
24/03 Me23 pg#2(DD 5)booking 27/8 scan 6/9
??? SuperSoph73 pg#3 (DS7, DS2)
??? Rain1014 pg#3 (DD8, DD6)
??? Applemuncher pg#1

MIA
27/02 SpecialSmasher pg#2
27/02 Helenmelon100 pg#3(DS1 3+MMC Angel baby)
03/03 Annie51 pg#10 DD1, DD2
11/03 Sarahscot pg#???

has scan today and I've miscarried.
please remove me from this list.

So sorry to hear that mslucy. I've been there and now how awful it is. I hope you're getting all the support you need.

I've updated the list for you.

27/02 Muser pg#1 12wk scan 16/08/10
01/03 BunderTheBonnet pg#2 (DD3) Kent. Scan 20/8
01/03 Snapdragon3 pg#9 (MMC, DD 3, DS 2, 5 MC) anomaly scan 21/10 GTT 29/11
02/03 Mendipgirl pg#2 (DD1) Scan 18th Aug
02/03 AfterIVF pg#1
03/03 Madasajarofwasps pg#3 (DD1 5 DD2 3) Worcester.
03/03 Celia76 pg#3 (DS1 5 & DS2 almost 3)
05/03 Hattie05 pg5 (DD1 7, DD2 3, no. 3 mc, DD3 7mths)
04/03 Spilttheteagain pg#1 MW Booking in 05/08, dating scan 13/08
04/03 Bluebeach pg#1 dating scan 20/08
04/03 Jeffily pg#3,(DD1 angel baby, DD2 15months)
04/03 Sam2Oscar DC2
07/03 Superpenguin pg#1
07/03 Mixedmama pg#3 (DS1 4.5 and DS2 2.5) London. Scan 23/8
07/03 Flower11 pg#1
08/03 Oceanbreeze pg#1 Booking in 4/8. Scan 29/8
09/03 Penguindreams #1 & 2!
09/03 Pushmepullyou pg#4 3MC, DD20 mo
10/03 EvianBaby pg#2 (DS1 Oct 08)
10/03 Coraltoes pg#1 booking in 11/8/10.
10/03 Sevenbubbles pg#2 (DD1 23.5 months) booking in 02/08/10
10/03 Mama2LeahandAisha pg#3 (DD2, DD1)
13/03 Polkadottytotty pg#3 (DS1 5.5 and DS2 3.5). Scan 30/08
14/03 Shitforbrains pg#3 (DS1 3 DS2 1)
16/03 Gemmasetters pg#2 (DD 2.5)
17/03 KateandEmsMum pg#5 (DD 3, DD 10 Months)
17/03 MrsMullen pg#1
18/03 EvaLongoria pg#2
18/03 Campervanfan pg#2 (DD 20 months)
20/03 Kagey pg#2 (DD Sept 08)
22/03 NoSleepTonight pg#3 (DS1 5.8, DS2 15months)
22/03 Purplefan pg#2 (DD 4.5)
24/03 Snotdroolanddirtybums pg#4 (5, 3 and 2)
24/03 Me23 pg#2(DD 5)booking 27/8 scan 6/9
??? SuperSoph73 pg#3 (DS7, DS2)
??? Rain1014 pg#3 (DD8, DD6)
??? Applemuncher pg#1

MIA
27/02 SpecialSmasher pg#2
27/02 Helenmelon100 pg#3(DS1 3+MMC Angel baby)
03/03 Annie51 pg#10 DD1, DD2
11/03 Sarahscot pg#???

mslucy - not sure if you'll be on here again but I am so sorry for you. I hope you are getting lots of love and support.

Hello to all the new people. The list has definitely grown loads in the last week.

Great news to those who have had scans. I've still got to wait two weeks - feels like forever. Madas - our scan date is the same so hopefully we can celebrate together!

Sarahmia and jeffily - I too have gone down that awful road miscarrying at 21 weeks. I think we just need to stay positive that all will be well this time but it is so nerve racking.

To those who get a nuchal scan on the nhs - you are bloomin lucky. It really annoys me that this is not standard to everyone. Why do some people get it free and others have to pay £100? Seems bonkers but then that is 'the system' such that it is.

Hi to everyone making me feel welcome. I hope I didnt come across too upset.

sam26oscar Luckily I have no m/s but I feel very weak even though I am on iron tablets as well. So hope that its just first trimester.

Welcome niamh29 and congrats on your pregnancy

Hi snapdragon3 I see now that the thread does move very fast. I tend to read and then only have time to respond a day or 2 later.

bluebeach glad that scan showed good news. I think this is quite scary. I wasn't scared last time but now with lots of friends losing theirs its making me a bit paranoid.

Coraltoes thanks for welcoming me. Yes just very exhausted. I can sleep like forever and its still not enough but with a toddler around cant always get away with sleep. Oh and dont worry about birth now. Mine wasnt easy first time around but I am hoping to go with an open mind with this 2nd one.

mslucy So sorry to hear. I cant imagine what you are going through. Hope you have support closeby.

Sorry for the very long post. Thought I'd try and get everyone in because I havent been on here for few days.
My booking appointment is on the 24th August and dating scan is only 9th September. So still a very long time to go.

sarahmia hi and welcome... sorry to hear about your loss, hope it all goes well with your pregnancy

sarahmia basically the left side of the heart is massively overgrown and the right side is barely there. There are also problems with the arteries leading to and from the heart- it is possible for a child born with HLHS to survive, but it involves 4 lots of open heart surgery before they are 15 and then a heart transplant. We didn't know anything was wrong until our 20 week scan and then it all went crazy, we decided that we could not bring a child into the world with all that medical intervention ahead of them, although I think that 60% of parents do continue with the pregnancy. In these cases you just have to do what is right for you and your family, don't you? It took me 3 months to even begin to function on a normal level again, and probably at least 6 months before I could feel anything approaching happy without also feeling guilty. Having a healthy baby since has gone a long way to healing the wounds, and I do think of my first DD often and still write in a little book to her. Hopefully you will find it gets easier as you get beyond the 12 week scan when it was first noticed for you, and as you see this baby grow well. I did find that getting 'further' than last time was a big mile stone for me. If there is ever anything I could (virtually!) support you with, you can always find me here!

mslucy Hope you have lots of RL support to get you through this difficult time.

Glamour shoot done.
Now I can chill.

Jeffily and Sarahmia what horrible and very sad experiences you have both had. I can totally understand your fears. Life can be so unfair sometimes. You both seem very strong and I hope everything goes well this time. Love to you both.

mslucy how awful for you after such a worrying week for you. I can't imagine waht you are going through having had a hopeful scan and then miscarrying. I hope you have lots of love and support in RL, please take care of yourself.

Oh dear I am not feeling too chirpy now. All this heartache makes you realise how tough this pregnancy business can be. For some reason I am really struggling to not worry about all the things that can go wrong this time. I am not sure if I feel that I am so lucky to have two beautiful DD's that it feels like I am pusying my luck having a third. Irrational I know but I just want a scan to reassure me. kateandemsmum lets hope we have good news to share together.

Well I seem to have rambled on a bit. I am cheering myself up thinking of sfb's saucy photo shoot!! I would be terrible at it and quite likely to giggle too much!!

Crossed there sfb's - glad its done and you can relax now!

ms lucy I'm so sorry for your loss, look after yourself.

sfb glad you survived the glamour shoot, I don't think I could keep a straight face either! madasa

Aw madas I didn't mean to worry you. Try not to let it overshadow your joy in your little life growing in there! Life is tough- you only have to watch a David Attenborough to know that. I still draw strength from my experience. That's not to say I would wish it on anyone, but I do believe that you make of life what you deserve of it.

And soon we'll all have had our first scans and have seen little ones jumping about, and have blurry black and white photos to take out of our wallets and gaze at lovingly every now and then. Yay!

I worry about all the things that can go wrong too. It's unavoidable - the more I learn, the more scared I get.
For PG#1 I was afraid of nothing. For PG#2 I was more aware and a bit more stressed out about various problems... then I had a massive problem that I had never even heard of and it's only served to make me more worried than I was before!

But I am trying to chill. Not much I can do at this point, so just thinking I'll cross that bridge when I come to it.

Glamour shoot was fine, boobs but no minge! The lady was super nervous but it all went well, I tried to relax her by making her laugh! The pics look good - I might even start doing it more regularly. I wish I had done it when my body was less ravaged by childbearing and too many curries!

Morning all,
Sorry to hear of your loss MsLucy hope you have lots of support in RL.
Sfb your job sounds very interesting glad the Glamour shoot went well for you and that there was no minge!!!!!!
Hope everyone else is feeling ok today. I am off to the midwife for my booking in appointment this afternoon, stupidly feel quite excited as though it will make it all more real!!