The PESH deli for those who are realising there are real live baybees at the end of this.

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BESH BAYBEES
dontrythisathome, Bay Amaryllis born March 25.
Cheggers, twinz girlz, born April
FannyPriceless, boy, born June 8

UPDIFFED
CUNextTuesday, takes no shit from the Daily Mail, due June 28
IggyPiggy, The one who loves BUMSEX, due July 20
CurlyCasper, hospital botherer due July 21 (girl)
Skihorse, cradle snatching web geek, due July 22 (boy)
Carrots, organic hippy hunter, due July 25 (boy)
Cosmosis, the one that likes a good ride, due August 22
backinthebox, she bought a racehorse, due September 6
skatergrrrl, the one that overtook the rest, September ??
VAG, lives in De Nile, due 19 September
silversky, the biggest farter, due 21 October (first baybee)
Honeymoo, no it's not fucking indigestion, due November 2 (boy)
okiecokie, self-confessed control freak, due November 6
SomethingSuitablyWitty, benelux babe, due November 14
ReginaMonologue, big pants, 5* hotels, Bridget Jones due November 20
maswera, jungle hottie - due November (???)
PollyPoo, wants to name her baybee after the dog, The New Messiah is due December 25

sorry all phone battery had to be saved for phoning family and it was completely dead by the time all was done at lunchtime today.baby cas is gorgeous but spending some time in an incubator. We'll prob be in hosp till at least the weekend. Thanks for all your thoughts and wishes. Xxx
P.s i prob wont be sharing many of the details...

Yay for babyCas!! So pleased for ya, can't wait for some pics. Hope you are ok? Does that mean you had a rough time? Hope not sweetie. Big hugs to you and little kisses to babyCas. xxx

Good to hear from you casp, big unBESHly hugs to you and your baby.

Aww cas I'm so sorry it wasn't smooth sailing for you. So pleased that mini-cas is here safely and I'm sure you'll be home and snuggly really soon. Take huge care of yourself and your little one. Loads of love, C xxx

green concealer, cunty???!!!

Right, I'm going to stop amusing myself elsewhere and I'm going to bed.

Well done, Cas Lovely BabyCurl will be A-ok - roll on the weekend! Look after yourself and I hope you're not too weak to enjoy this huge snog xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Sounds like you had a bit of an rough time Casp. Hope you're ok and have the energy to enjoy your bundle of joy. Many many congratulations. Hope she's ok in her incubator, the little poppet and hope everyone's making a huge fuss of you. Well, I know they are!

Sorry - pissed!

Curly I am so happy for you. Sorry it wasn't quite what you expected from what I can work out... but hopefully you will be feeling alot better v soon. Also what a beautiful name... I love it. Big kisses to you both. xxxxxxxxx

Off to work shortly for the big pitch. They sent me home at 11pm last night when my voice stopped working. Will be in bed I reckon by about 1130 once it's all over and intending to stay there until about ooh Sunday morning.

Mini moo is ok. Boy bits now gone and he was very dopey yesterday but has perked up a lot now. God it's so barbaric but he is the best dog and has barely whimpered. I let him on the bed last night but he is wise and eventually got fed up and went back on the floor poor thing. Came and cuddled me at 4.30 when I woke up hacking and snotting everywhere....

Back later when I am in bed!!!!

thanks all. Baby is out of incub now, feeding ok and has me in awe every moment! Still not sure about hair colour, it might change, but in the right light i can see hints of ginger...

Double whammy for Cas a new wriggly and our first Ginger baybee!

Love the name, I like unusual ones!

Rest up whilst you can, the next 18 years are gonna be exhausting! ;)

So happy for you both! Sending you lots of gin!

Ps who can give me info on cramps! When I stretched this morning I got SEVERE cramp in my left leg.

Normale? Probably!!

cassie massive yay for babycasp!!! Can't wait to see a pic xxx

silver my osteopath says cramp can be more common in the hot weather and you should drink more water as is worse if you dehydrated. Also drink tonic water for the quinine.

Hello to the rest of you!

cunty today for you please!

have linked to pics on fb. On his page but tagged self in one of madam. Am being forced to bf a baby who wants to sleep. Not fun, but a step towards getting us home. Will try to caych up yoday but no prpmises

silver Make sure you've got enough salt too - people are so paranoid about excess salt that they seem to forget they need it in hot, sweaty weather. Don't go eating tons of processed shite obviously, but a sprinkle on your eggs or a good toss in your pasta wouldn't go amiss!

curly WONDERFUL, all wonderful! I'm so thrilled to hear that you'll be home during the weekend too with any luck - just amazing. I can't wait for photos and I hope you and SFF are both doing OK too and not in too much shock.

boxer Ah, what gets your goat with the travel ones?

cunty I dare you to ask what this japhrimel woman eats. I'm betting 3 ready meals per day full of sodium and she'll never have been near a fresh vitamin and wouldn't know an Omega if it were strapped to her wrist!

PS curly haz baybee and I can haz morning sickness still?

Yes, I know I'm posting like a menkul this morning, but -

1. are any of you going through utter RAGE with your partner? It's not that he's done anything specifically wrong - but I feel so ANGRY with him right now. Hormones? I know he's going to get home from work in an hour and want to talk rationally but I don't care - I'm not interested - I WANT to be mad at him.

2. Has anyone had any thoughts about contraception post-baybee? Between this one and the next one for those of you thinking in that way.

I can't see the CurlyBaby photos on fb! Cas glad you're ok, hope you are able to relax and recover and are released home as soon as you want to be. Looking forward to a proper catch-up but know you have more important things to think about at the moment!

Silver - cramps - argh! I had the worst toe cramps last night, they wouldn't go even when I was stretching them out, was utterly miserable. TSF kept saying "sit down, let me help" and I was nasty and convinced he couldn't, then eventually I let him and he patiently stretched out my feet until they finally went. So Ski in answer to one of your questions, yes, TSF is being really annoying at the moment even though he is actually not. Fancy being able to soothe and help me! The audacity!

Glad cramps are hot-weather related, I thought I was going mad, is nice to have some sort of explan - I eat too much salt as it is so it's unlikely to be that but am going to up my water intake a lot today and get to a health food shop tomorrow for some magnesium supplements (if can find preggo-safe ones) as have been recommended by yoga teacher.

At least it's Friday.

Hurray for ginger baybies! Cas if she wants to sleep, you have a little kip too then have another go at the old BF. Alternatively just check the both of you out - they can't stop you - then get BFing support at home asap. There is lots of back up for BFing out there. Tell any harridans forcing you to do stuff to bog off!

Silver - normale!

Ski I like the ones that go "I went on a hen weekend in Dublin and was 7 weeks pregnant and drank 5 buckets of Guiness but now I'm scared the flight over there kilt my baybee!" Or I'm feeling really stressed and need a holiday but am afraid that if I fly somewhere and have a week of relaxation on the beach the flight will kill my baybee." Slightly less offensive, but annoying nontheless is "I have to go to my best friend's gay brother's stepson's barmitzvah which will entail driving for half an hour all by my self when I am 29 weeks and am scared I will give birth while changing gears. Would you go?"

Talking of travel - I is off to sit on a beach for a week myself next week. Tis only a UK one, but if the weather is like this, should be just fine. I will lay there and scare small children

BTW Ski not irrationally angry myself, but bff is. And wrt to contraception - mine is already planned. Is called having a baby and a toddler in a really small house.

PS I have booked a pregnancy specialist reflexologist/aromatherapist to pamper me for the next 10 weeks, and to kick da baybee out if it shows signs of being reluctant. Lush!

Ooh Boxie sounds lush. How did you find? - was it a recommendation? I've heard good things about the Neals Yard preggo massage, quite tempted.

Haven't even considered contraception yet - cannot imagine the secks afterwards for a while.

My osteopath has a lady who comes to her clinic to do it, but I live closer to her house so she is going to come and pamper me at home. Better that way - I don't need to worry so much about entertaining DD while I relax.

Morning all!

Well done to cas and I'm so pleased the litle scrap is out of confinement. I bet it's totally overwhelming and I really hope it makes whatever went before pale into insignificance. Lots of hugs to the Ginger Crew

I punched Hom in the head last night when I had to come downstairs at 12.30 to wake him up. He has this propensity to nod off on the sofa after I've gone to bed and I've begged him not to many, many times mainly because it doesn't do my self-esteem any good. I thought it was a product of me going to bed too early, so I stay up a bit later and yet it still happens. I get irrationally angry about it because it's pure bone-idleness (and he always reckons his intention is just to rest his eyes) and last night was the final straw cos I had to haul my ass downstairs to retrieve him. So I punched him twice in the head . I have no doubt it will make not one scrap of difference.

I suspect also the above will lend itself nicely to our contraceptive choices. Although in reality I'll prob have a Mirena coil fitted cos this is my one and only.

Anyway, no movement here, sorry iggy. It's going to be a glarious weekend though so I'd rather spend my time drinking cold white wine in the garden than labouring up at the hospital if I'm honest

Had to laugh as I read boxy's post immediately following VAG's:
"cannot imagine the secks afterwards for a while."
"My osteopath has a lady who comes to her clinic to do it."

ski For contraception... in between girl and boy we started with condoms, but we both hate them so I went on the pill that you can use when BF. It's a pain as you really can't get the time wrong each day. Also I was so sick of 20 years of putting hormones in my body. Then I did the maths on when we had to start SWI again to avoid being in an old folks home by the time we managed to conceive a second child. At that point we threw the pills away and went for it in a mad panic.

This time around it's very simple. MrP is on notice to book himself in at the vet asap. Any secks before then will involve condoms. That's the deal.

Confession: Last time secks was very difficult for ages, and largely avoided for about the first 9 months (not making this up). This time I am already gagging for it after a mere two weeks! But yet to road test. May be more painful than I think and really won't know until we try.

But if you want a second child my thinking is, when you are in the situation when age is creeping along, and it took so long to win a baby the first time around, I wouldn't be too worried at all about conceiving again quickly. Though a friend I saw the other day said a friend of hers conceived when her first baby was 1 month old... may be best to have a slightly bigger gap.

fanny I was thinking of starting to TTC in the new year, however end of 2010 wouldn't be the end of the world. But... would rather NOT get a BFP in August. I think it'll be condoms as I'm paranoid that the MAP I took in 2008 fucked up my hormones in 2009. Jailbait will be going along to the vet when the time comes. It's already agreed (by me).

VAG Thank the lord for your heinously unhelpful husband. What a pure bastard! cunty Twice in the head? So you're not hormonal at all then! As for falling asleep on the couch. That INFURIATES me! Jailbait is asleep on the couch RIGHT NOW! Now, I know he starts work at the arsecrack of dawn but he sleeps more than me and I'm cooking his little person. It really fucks me off. Should I be more accommodating towards people who simply need more sleep or shall I go over and punch him in the head? Twice. I mean I get woken up by his alarm clock, then the cunt comes in and wakes me up again by kissing me goodbye.

boxer Muppets. F'kin muppets. Following that thread you sent me to yesterday I've met some fellow headshakers - one has come across someone in a panic because they ate a gingerbread man.

That's my prob ski - is no point letting him sleep till 3am, which is when he usually awakens, because he is pathologically incapable of coming to bed quietly. He shoves the door open, lets it bump to behind him, jangles his belt and loose change and then grunts himself into bed. And then that's me awake for an hour. Tis pure selfishness and laziness. He has to shower before he comes to bed cos he can't be arsed to do it when he comes home, and then can't motivate himself at midnight, oddly eough, so he just closes his eyes for a moment... and then it's 3am. And then its all 'oh baby I'm sorry I don't mean to, do you not love me any more blah blah nothing'

Things improved for a while last time I put my foot down but I'm going to resurrect the 'any time later than 12.30 and it's the spare room', particularly when the baby comes cos I'm not being woken unnecessarily between feeds because he can't get his arse off the sofa...