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December 2010 - good-bye flat tummies (as if I had one... ha ha ha)

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Persnickety · 11/06/2010 12:50

Right, I've done the honours. This is our new thread.

And don't forget the stats thread

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GreenGeekGirl · 11/06/2010 13:11

Persnickety Thanks for being the club organiser and sorting out new threads and stats etc - you're a star!

DF I haven't a clue how to interpret your results but they don't sound bad at all to the untrained eye. Whatever you decide to do I hope you at least feel a little reassured that it's not just plain bad news.

LittleB, kiwi5 & any other people down our way - Maybe we should have a Westcountry meetup sometime?

DuelingFanjo · 11/06/2010 13:16

Thanks to people for responding to my post about my Nuchal result. I am feeling really fine about it and not in a panic. I just feel that the whole thing was a big waste of time and money.

I will ask what it was which kept me in the high risk group. The woman at the clinic said my risk would have started at 77 (from bloods alone maybe or because of my age? - I am not sure; she said had I had teh triple test at the hospital on teh NHS my risk would have been higher so I am assuming it's the blood which has effected the result?) so it being 80 is an improvement. I have an appointment tomorrow with the Dr who will explain it more. I am only really going because my DH needs to hear it too as I don't think he fully understands any of it.

I know that my choice now is to have an Amnio or not. No one has mentioned CVS to me so I am not even sure if they offer it on the NHS here (S Wales) and Amnio may be my only option.

Anyway - my choice is to a. find out for sure or b. just wait and see.

Persnickety · 11/06/2010 13:27

DF, here is a NICE guideline which might be helpful on what the NHS should be offering you.

www.nice.org.uk/nicemedia/live/11947/40115/40115.pdf

I find that quoting NICE guidelines goes a long way to lighting fires under stationary NHS arses.

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OnlyWantsOne · 11/06/2010 13:28

wow new thread all ready...?

Pers, are you in management

DuelingFanjo · 11/06/2010 13:40

Thanks Persnickety. The NHS in Wales pretty much ignored the nice Guidlines when it came to IVF so I don't think that they care much for them unfortunately.

I am guessing that I just have to go for the Amnio and hope for the best.

Miffster · 11/06/2010 13:42

DF, sorry about the test hassle, very exasperating to spend money then not get clear info about on which data the risk is being assessed.

Random q of the afternoon: has anyone else got sore, ITCHY boobs and bellies? Is this a sign of impending stretchmarkage? eek if so.

I am also very gassy and trumping like a drayhorse. My bump is mostly bloat, and wobble.
Also find I get more and more bloated as day goes on and by end of day have to tear off bra and anything round waist and put on kaftan.

RaceyLacey · 11/06/2010 13:42

Hi everyone. Having trouble keeping up, sorry. Thanks for hte new thread Persnickety & welcome to all the newbies.

DF - sorry you're having this worry, I agree with GGG that the fact that they're saying the scan looked good & htat you're combined results actually lower your risk must be a good thing. Did they/are they able to tell you what your risk would have been with just bloods & scan, i.e. not factoring in your age?

Jodie & OWO - hats off to you both. You're both a heck of a lot stronger and braver than me. I've wanted to put restrictions on contact with xp but just too damn scared of him to push anything. SS wouldn't stand by me, courts don't see a drug addict/dealer as a risk to children, and he just manages to manipulate people so well I'm far too scared to take it any further than that, but the counselling is going well so hopefully sometime in the not too distant future I can actually stop living in fear of him.

Lavita - ooh I'm interested in what chain you work for. I've worked for a few big chain restaurants so possibly the same chain as you. Well if not I've certainly worked for Mitchells & Butlers (even back when it was Bass) and Whitbread.

Well, this is --quite- very embarrassing. I called the mw as I was still a bit about my consultant appointment so wanted to check what I had been told by the hospital was right and what I could do about it etc. Anyway it turns out that I do have to see a consultant a few times because of an infection I got a few years ago. Even though I haven't had any 'outbreaks' of it for about a year or so, I still have to be monitored throughout the latter stages of the pregnancy as if I do have any live outbreaks when I go into labour it can pose a very serious risk to the baby & therefore I would need a section. BUT, hopefully I won't get any outbreaks and as long as I don't there is nothing at all stopping me from having a home birth.

I really feel for those of you who missed out on promotion recently. My manager had just put me forward for the fast-track management thing at Woolies. I'd done a few courses with them, had a few bits under my belt & was reading up on all the STL bits & pretty much doing an STL's job when we went into admin. Now I'm 30, with no genuine experience as a team leader (none that I can put on a cv anyway even though most of my jobs I've done that job as the actual supervisors were crap). A couple of things I'd like to do. I want to go back to college, as does dp. We thought that us both being out of work was a perfect opportunity to do so, but all of our benefits would have stopped. Great, so we'd be going to college to give ourselves better prospects, but in the meantime we can't live. Also, both of us want to start up our own business. I've had plans for years, but never had any support, now dp wants to do the same thing as me, unfortunately obviosuly with no capital it's not possible and thanks to xp I'm bankrupt so I can't have a business in my name for another 5 years.

Ooh, I've just remembered, can't remember who said about it on the other thread, but I saw on i-am-pregnant.com someone mentioning intelligender so I'm afraid you'd be too late to patent a gender prediction wee-stick!

Well I'm exhausted, feel bad as I don't have the energy to play with ds2 but at least I have dp who says he hates it, but secretly loves playing with the boys. A bit of a sit down, then off to counselling, then a meeting with our MP to have a good old whinge.

RaceyLacey · 11/06/2010 13:46

x-posts with loads of you.

Miffster, I remember my belly itching during pregnancy before, although not had it this time. I think it was the stretching, but do remember reading something when pg with ds1 that excessive itching is a sign of something serious.

RaceyLacey · 11/06/2010 13:47

all about itching

LLKH · 11/06/2010 14:19

Scan went v. well. All present and correct and active. Apparently, baby was jumping!

As for cravings, salad, salad, and more salad. Oh and fruit. At the moment, I can't cook at all, I can eat cooked things but cooking smells turn my stomach.

Had midwife booking today and similar problem to the rest of you with BMI. It's funny; no matter how much you read about BMI's scientific spuriousness, a high reading can still make you feel about an inch tall. If you're otherwise perfectly fit and healthy, that shouldn't stop you from being able to have a home birth, should it?

Persnickety · 11/06/2010 14:24

I want the gender on the pee stick. But had no plans to patent any such thing as I wouldn't have any idea how to make it. Am disapointed though that that product is only sold in the US and doesn't mention test accuracy. Gimmick!

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Miffster · 11/06/2010 14:36

Hurray LLKH for good scan news!
Racey, the itching link takes you through to the intelligender site?

JodieO · 11/06/2010 14:48

LLKH glad to hear scan went well

Dueling sorry to hear you're not happy about your results. Do you know what you'd want to do after an amnio and results? I think you'd be around 23 weeks by the time you got them and I believe it's either 1/100 or 1/200 chance of miscarriage (depending on hospital) with the amnio. Really 1/80 are pretty good odds imo but of course, it's up to you. I personally am just having the nuchal and wouldn't have an amnio either way as I'll be keeping my baby no matter what but I know everyone has very different opinions about this matter. I hope you and dh can talk and decide what you want to do. Thinking of you, don't envy your situation right now

Isn't vitamin D from sunlight and you only need about 10 mins a day to get the RDA? I certainly won't be taking any tablets for that! Bit of sun (and that includes through clouds ) will do me just fine.

Racey I hope things look up for you with ex and contact. I'm taking it a day at a time now and just enjoying my time and days rather than worrying about the future and what could happen tomorrow all the time. Trying at least!

Miffster itchy boobs yes! And mine are getting larger, only place I got stretchmarks so I'm assuming more!

Better post now as the laptop battery is about to die and I have to find the charger!

Persnickety · 11/06/2010 14:56

Oh, LLKH, sorry crossed posts with you and didn't notice yours til just now. Fab news on the scan.

DF, I think the NHS recomends a CVS/amnio if the nuchal result is 1/150 and Fetal Medicine Center if it is 1/300.

But... it's alway good to keep a perspective and remember that 1/80 means you have a 79/80 chance of not having a problem. And 79 is a whole lot more than 1.

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DuelingFanjo · 11/06/2010 15:33

thanks Persnickety, I think I am just starting to think sod it, whatever will be will be. My % chance is 1.25 I think so perhaps I will think of it more as a 99% chance that I won't

JodieO I always said I would terminate for Downs but now I am not sure I even want to find out. Going to wait to see what the consultant says tomorrow and work from there.

LLKH great news on your scan

JodieO · 11/06/2010 15:58

Dueling I think that's definitely a better way to think about it Are you worried about it? If you would want an amnio then I'd so what Persnickety said and request a cvs as it can be done now I believe and the results will be back sooner, means not having to wait until 20+ weeks. Good luck tomorrow.

Angelgirl79 · 11/06/2010 17:01

Hi all not posted for a while.

DF i went for the NS too. Whilst i know they give you the risk figures if the scan looks good that is a positive sign. Did they tell you the thickness of the nuchal fold? Also if they said he scan looks good i was told that was because thickness in right boundry and they also look for a nasal bone - did they mention any of this to you xx

RaceyLacey · 11/06/2010 17:55

oops, sorry, itching

OnlyWantsOne · 11/06/2010 18:52

ladiiessssss look here and help please

thank you

SlightlyTired · 11/06/2010 19:39

Hi all, too much to respond to on tiny iTouch keypad, but thinking of you, df.
I think someone mentioned that legally your employer has to keep your job open for 6 months then a comparable one open for the next 6 months. I think that has actually changed now so that you have 12 months to return to your current job.
Right, Thai food has arrived.

OnlyWantsOne · 11/06/2010 19:48

thai food being delivered, wow... I shall settle with my mac cheese for dinner and wait for DP to come home

mumatron · 11/06/2010 19:54

just marking place on new thread, thnaks persnick.

df im starting to think i might change my nuchal scan for a reasurrance one. i dont think i would do anything if the results where low so can i really justify the expense? your right about it being an almost 99% chance of things being just fine.

i have been keeping up with thread but just too tired to post much.

will promise to be more sociable in future.

Wholelottalove · 11/06/2010 20:43

Wow, thanks for new and just as speedy moving thread Persnickity!

DF sorry your result were worrying. I think that's a good way to conceive of it being a 99% chance all is ok.

Hmm cravings... well, although I've started to hanker a little bit after healthy things like apples, lemons, OJ and a bit of salad I'm still eating plenty of rubbish. Seem to be getting through a lot of orange doritos. HAd a hot choc phase but that seems to have gone now.

Still feeling too tired to cook. I was buying a birthday pressie in m&s earlier and got some stew and dumpling ready meals which were really nice. Never had any from M&S before.

Lavitabella · 12/06/2010 00:08

Just marking my place ladies too tired to chat!

MrsSnaplegs · 12/06/2010 08:21

Morning all - hope everyone is feeling reasonably well today - it's Saturday lets have some fun!
DD still doesn't grasp concept of a lie in at weekend so has been up since 6, friends coming round later to help with caravan project so time to go and tidy the cesspit that is DD bedroom before she takes friends up there to play and make it all messy again!

DF - sorry your results weren't easy to interpret, hope you are ok and seeing consultant helps
Persnick - thanks for the new thread! It's great there is somone here to lead us through the mire!
Miffster - you are not alone with the itching!

Have a good day - will be back later1

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