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December 2010 - good-bye flat tummies (as if I had one... ha ha ha)

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Persnickety · 11/06/2010 12:50

Right, I've done the honours. This is our new thread.

And don't forget the stats thread

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Persnickety · 15/06/2010 02:24

Hi everyone. I'm sorry, I don't have time to catch up properly. But, can I just ask what risk people are happy with for their nuchal's. My over all risk from FMC today is 1/1200 which I'm generally happy with. But, the NT measurement was 2.8mm which I'm not very happy with. So, trying to decide whether to go for CVS. Then, at C&W they measured NT at 2.1mm. Surely it can't chance that much in 6 hours. And if it can, how reliable are these tests.

All other markers (nasal bone present, bloods, etc.) were all fine. It's just the actual NT measurement we are worried about.

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DuelingFanjo · 15/06/2010 08:05

Morning Persnickety. I think a 1/1200 risk is fine and you have to trust the whole test rather than worrying about the fold measurement alone. Did they explain the blood side to you at all? I totally understand the worry though. My consultant said that the length of the baby is also important so if your baby measured quite long then the slightly higher fold measurement isn't such a worry.

Good luck to everyone having a scan today IIRC there are quite a few?

emmaxmas · 15/06/2010 08:18

Morning all,

Good to hear all the scan news yesterday. Persnickety I also think the 1/1200 risk is fine- what did they say to you about the 2.8mm measurement?

I have been feeling very anxious about my scan today. I've had really strange tummy pains the last couple of days and have started worrying again about the bleeding I had the week before last. Also my other symptoms seem to have disappeared (nausea, exhaustion, sore boobs)in the past few days. I've almost convinced myself that there'll be no heartbeat today. I really must try and think more positively. I never thought I'd be so anxious during pregnancy- goodness knows how I'll be with an actual baby!!

Goodluck to everyone else who has scans today- here's hoping we all have good news to report.

crazykat · 15/06/2010 08:33

Morning everyone

Good luck for all the scans today.

Had a really busy weekend, two birthday parties and a world cup party followed by an aweful migraine yesterday, just wanted to hide in bed but had to get up at six with DC's.

MS keeps coming back, I'll feel fine for a while then one day I'll wake up and feel really sick and ill all day, following day I'm fine. Drives me nuts.

Got combined results today - 1 in 100000. At least that's one less thing to worry about.

Can't wait for next scan on 21st July.

japhrimel · 15/06/2010 08:56

Has anyone else started having what I'm assuming is round ligament pain when moving suddenly?

Persnickety - there must be a margin of error in measuring the NT, it won't be that the NT has changed, just that the measurement changed because of different sonographer and/or the baby lying differently. I know at mine the sonographer took ages because the baby ended up lying right on my membranes and she said she had to be really careful not to include the membrane in the measurement! Also, the combined result is far more accurate than just the NT measurement, so I would be happy with the 1:1200 and forget the less-accurate-on-its-own borderline NT measurement.

JodieO - I'm not doing great at coping with the hip pain/PGP TBH. I've stopped sitting in chairs at home that I know make it worse (sofa, bar stools) and am trying to generally avoid hard chairs - I need to get a seat cushion I can roll up in my bag when I go out! I'm avoiding crossing my legs as well, though weirdly, for me, sitting cross legged can help!

Rest is definitely helping also. It was bad yesterday because I walked too far on Sunday - I think doing much exercise is out for this pregnancy! I'm trying to remember to do my pelvic floor and lower abdominal muscle exercises, but I don't think they're helping me as it's my hips that are affected, not my pelvis itself.

Panadol is definitely helping, plus it helps ease the pain enough for me to get to sleep. I've got some codeine that my doctor okayed me to take if needed when I first got pregnant - haven't needed it yet but it's nice to know it's there.

emma2617 · 15/06/2010 09:00

Morning Ladies!

Just have to say WOW to you JodieO your posts are awesome...how do you manage to reply to most people?! If I tried to do that I would actually have to make notes!!

I had my scan yesterday....and it was AWESOME! Never before have I seen such a wriggly little bean! She just didn't stop (yes, I call it "she", I am that desperate for a girl ) and the next best news after seeing her acrobatics display was that they moved my due date forward a whole 6 days!! So instead of 28th I'm now due on 22nd!! I am now fully booked in at the hospital, they took all my bloods etc, I was mortified when they said I was a high risk pregnancy, until they explained that it was due to a previous section...so that wonderful pregnancy where I don't have to see the midwife as often as last time is out of the window! And because I live under 1 trust but have booked at a hospital in another trust many things have to be duplicated so I have my next 4 appts on 5th July at hospital, 12th July in the community then 5th August for 20 week scan then 13th august to see the consultant! Work might start to think I'm taking the mick!

Poor DS is poorly sois at home with DP today, got a phonecall yesterday at 9.30am as he had developed a temperature, when I got there he was just sat on the nursery nurses knee lokking so sorry for himself, when we got home he had a 2hr 45min nap and then behaved impeccably at the hospital before becoming a grump monster just as we left! Hope he is feeling better by tomorrow!

Hope every one is getting on okay and good luck for all those upcoming scans!

notso · 15/06/2010 10:02

Morning All,
Feeling good so far today, could be something to do with the 11 hours sleep I had last night
I managed to cook roast beef, roast and mashed potatoes, yorkshire pudding roast veg and leeks in white sauce last night and I wasn't sick once, tentatively hoping thiers light at the end of the vomit tunnel.

Whatwillsantabring Don't worry, you weren't being nosey
I am high risk due to a pulmonary embolism (blood clot that went to my lung) at 36 weeks in my first pregnancy, I have to take clexane throughout my pregnancies and for some time afterwards.
I always knew I would be High Risk but have read of people with the same condition having homebirths, however I had a massive bleed when the placenta was delivered after DS's birth and it is highly likely it will happen again this time so probably safer in the hospital, I'm still going to ask the consultant though.

OWO I am jealous of you being 16 weeks this week, I seem to have been 12 weeks for about a month!

emma26 hope you poorly DS is better soon.

Persnickety your risk sounds fine, as others have said I think the combination of results.

Dueling How are you doing, did I read you had decided to go for the amnio? If so when is that?

emmaxmas sorry you are feeling so anxious and good luck for today.

japhrimal sorry you are suffering with pain, I had that towards the last few months with DS but touch wood nothing so far.

crazykat hope your sickness eases for good soon.

Good Luck for any other scans today, and hope everybody else has a good day.

NickiSue · 15/06/2010 10:40

Morning all. Very vivid dream last night, I was having a scan (was still 14+6 lol) but was told it was 95% positive a boy. Who knows, I think it might be another boy actually but gawd was it vivid- I remember thinking, if she presses on my tummy one more I will wee all over! Just like my usual scans actually! I'd forgotten the vivid dreams!

How is everyone else today?

SeoMum · 15/06/2010 10:53

Hi everyone
Finding I have to log on quite regularly not to miss anything!
So many people on here still struggling to get to grips with the thread, will try to learn from JodieOs example
Goodluck to everyone having scans today and emma2617 hope your DS is feeling better soon.
crazykat I am feeling terrible still too it is better than a few weeks ago but was hoping it would ease up by now hopefully we will both turn a corner soon and be in that blossoming stage pf pregnancy people keep telling me about lol
NickiSue How weird you never know what your subconscious is telling you. I had a vivid dream that I was in labour last night not great and woke my DH up! Prob my own fault for watching Glee last night.

SlightlyTired · 15/06/2010 11:25

Seomum, I do love Glee and yes I know part of its charm is in its two dimensionality (I just invented a word) but seriously - could that baby have been any less like a newborn?!

Notso, your post made me hungry. I could really go a big plate of roast beef right now. Unfortunately, the only thing in the fridge is...actually, there's nothing much in the fridge at all. This is what happens when I work from home.

15+5 today. Supposed to be booked in with MW for 16 week appointment but have not been able to get hold of her and apparently no-one else at the birth centre can take the appointment on her behalf. Not ideal.

DuelingFanjo · 15/06/2010 11:33

notso thank you for thinking of me. I am going to have the Amnio on 29th June and have managed to get an appointment with the same guy who was going to charge me £400 to do it privately as he also works for the NHS. His risk of miscarriage is 1:300 so I feel quite reassured.

The more I read the more I am convinced that it's very unlikely I will have a baby with downs, sometimes I think about cancelling the Amnio all together to be honest.

Persnickety I hope you are ok? I've seen your other posts and answered you in one of the ante-natal testing threads. I do know exactly how you feel, I was in bits on Saturday, but you can in time regain a sense of calm. I think deciding on what to decide (If that makes sense) is a horrible stage to be in and I was thinking ahead and imagining all sorts of awful outcomes. Now I have decided what to do I feel a lot calmer though I do have my moments.

I think your overall risk is low enough to not consider further testing but I hope you do make a decision you are comfortable with quickly and can carry on enjoying your pregnancy x

WhatWillSantaBring · 15/06/2010 11:37

Ooo, notso, that sounds nasty. The more I learn about the things that can happen during pg the more I realise that its a Good Thing you don't learn these things till you're actually pg, otherwise the population might start dropping off dramatically! [Hmmm, thought? Teach children in schools the risks and maybe they'll think twice before becoming gym slip mums?]

An hour left at work till I head off for the scan . DH wants to go to B&Q on the way home. My husband is such a romantic. (He's one of the sort that believes men shouldn't show emotion...)

Emma2617 that's fabulous news - you must be relieved.

Hope everyone else has lots of good fortune today and tomorrow at the scans, and hope the MS finally disappears soon for everyone.

x

Hopeful1980 · 15/06/2010 11:55

Hi everyone

Can I just say.. YIPPEE!!! saw our wriggler this morning and it was the most amazing thing I've ever seen. Legs and arms flying around the place, all bits present and correct and the nuchal measurement was 1.2 which sounds pretty low so very very happy and relieved.

I was bang on with my dates - am 12 weeks exactly today so due date is still 28th Dec. The sonographer said I must be v intune with my body. Didn't mention that I had been tracking my ovulation with near psychopathic focus for the couple of months of trying before it was conceived!!

Driving up to my parents tonight on the ruse of a business meeting tomorrow near their house so we can surprise them with our news and photos of our baby.

Hope everyone else's scans go well.

xx

SeoMum · 15/06/2010 12:01

slightlytired I thought that about the glee baby lifting its head and looking around at everyone also impressed that her waters broke and she gave birth in the time it took the other team to sing Bohemian Rhapsody - I know its a long song but really ha ha

Duellingfanjo goodluck with the amnio, I don't know if I'm at risk yet won't find out till the bloods at 16 weeks as my hospital doesn't do nuchal scans. I hope it goes well and will be thinking of you!

Whatwillsantabring and Notso it is scary all the things that can happen and you don't realise till your pg maybe it would be a good idea to teach it in sex ed stop some of the young uns getting pregnant - although my MIL was a teenage bride and cannot fault her for being a great mum to her 3 now going to be a trendy young GM

Notso I am high risk too due to Kidney problems and a history of depression but this is my first and quite pleased I have a consultant as well as a MW to help, especially as my Kidney problems were made worse through negligence at Mac hospital which is the hospital I should be giving bith at - so want the TLC!

SeoMum · 15/06/2010 12:03

Hopeful1980 That is wonderful congratulations! A lovely way to surprise your parents too x x

notso · 15/06/2010 12:22

Boo, my lovely package from Mothercare arrived and far from looking like a maternal goddess I look like a sack in one dress, a rotund bee in a striped dress and like I am in victorian costume in a tankini with the longest shorts ever!
I am keeping the tankini though as I want to start Aquanatal tomorrow.

I had forgotten about the how vivid dreams can be in pregnancy, I had a dream I had another DD at home the other night and when I woke up I looked for the moses basket next to the bed

persnickety My last post to you made no sense sorry, thats my preg brain in full swing

Dueling glad you are feeling calmer and positive.

Sorry slightly, I fear I may have peaked too soon this week though, haven't done anything today!

WWSB thankfully for me at the time the clot was scarier for everyone else, as I was too high on pethadine for the pain to realise what was going on! It was only afterwards I realised how serious it was. The bleed wasn't too bad either as I was all wrapped up with DS, I told the midwife to turn the tap off and she said thats actually the sound of you bleeding

notso · 15/06/2010 12:25

SeoMum poor you with the kidneys, I suppose it is nice to have bonus appointments, scans etc.

Hopeful great news, I bet your parents will be thrilled.

Lavitabella · 15/06/2010 12:27

Just a quick hello and congrats everyone for their scans.

Hopeful1980 Can't wait to see how your parents react, what a lovely surprise for them!

Miffster How are you feeling? and how is your brother? I hope everything is going well for you both. My SIL was diagnosed with breast cancer recently and starts chemo next week. My DP has taken it very hard, as their father died of Non Hodgkins Lymphoma. It's a completely different disease and I'm positive and hopeful that all will be ok. The doctors are all very nice so fingers crossed.

SlightlyTired · 15/06/2010 12:55

Lavitabella, that's hard on you and your DP - I'm sorry to hear it. Medicine is truly amazing these days though and I am sure you are right to take the positive view you have.

Has anyone else been on the receiving end of particularly unhelpful comments recently? I have had two that stick in the mind. One from MIL, to the effect that FIL had been "on his knees every night praying for a boy". Erm, that's MY baby you're talking about and how am I going to feel if I produce a girl?!! Personally I don't think they should even have an opinion - or if they must then they should certainly keep it to themselves.

And the other one from my boss: "enjoy wearing those skinny jeans now because by the time you fit back into them they'll be out of fashion". This said while I was standing in the queue at the canteen holding an admittedly large portion of food...

Miffster · 15/06/2010 13:40

Thanks Lavitabella, I am very sorry to hear of your SIL's news and hope that she gets through the chemo without feeling too grim and that she gets better soon.

I can't visit my bro because I have a really awful stinking cold, so no visits til I am better - so annoying. But dad and my bro's MIL brought his 4 year old son up to London to see him Monday just before he started the really awful chemo that knocks him (and his hair) out. He is being very brave and inspiring. So awful that he cannot see his 6 mo twins and wife and son as they are in a different town, whilst he has treatment in London.

Glad people have had good views of bouncing babes on their scans, hopefully the second trimester will be less fraught for us .

emmaxmas · 15/06/2010 15:34

Happy to report scan was great this morning- a very wriggly baby moving its arms and legs all over the place! Was so relieved. Had a trainee sonographer who was actually quite crap- talked in a very quiet voice I couldn't hear what she was saying. Her supervisior ended up taking over as the trainee was having a bit of difficulty with it all. Lovely photos! Due date Christmas Day! Was hoping that would change, but no! Oh well super excited all the same.

Lavitabella sorry to hear about your SIL. Also not surprised you were miffed with those very unhelpful comments. I would be fuming!

Miffster hope your cold gets better soon so that you can visit your brother- must be a very difficult time.

Notso your comments about your Mothercare package made me smile. I think we're all struggling with clothes at the moment!

Well better get back to do some work. Have been very distracted this afternoon as am still buzzing from the scan. Very unproductive workwise but very productive in letting people know the news!

emmaxmas · 15/06/2010 15:36

oops I mean Slightytired not Lavitabella about the comments from your MIL and boss

WalkTheDog · 15/06/2010 16:48

wahey for the good scans

japhrimel I've been getting lig pains for a while, not all the time. I've also got hypermobility, but it more affects elbow/wrist/hand, knee/ankle/feet, which I think is better than hips/pelvis/spine for when pg.

slightly tired poor you, some people should keep their opinions to themselves

lavitabella good wishes for your SIL's chemo

Have had a bad headache all day today, so annoying, I seem to have one good day and then one awful day...grrr.

CLB1 · 15/06/2010 17:10

SlightlyTired Thanks, Both my Mum and sister have them too. I?m just going to add them to the lists of joys of pregnancy
NickiSue My Mum doesn?t rate that but then a friend at work did, it?s cheap enough to give it a go anyway  . I know what you mean about the dreams as well, seem so real. I dreamed about vampires lastnight (Anxiously awaiting Twilight Eclipse)
ChloesBaby I like your celebrating method, I?ll be 12 weeks on Saturday and I think I?m going to copy
ReshapewhileDamp Congratulations on the scan  I have mine tomorrow. It?s great you got to do the good tradition and go to Mothercare although I agree with you for dresses you might aswell buy normal ones as they are rarely fitted around your middle area.
BBump74 Congrats and welcome, a xmas baby would be good, double celebration
Japhrimel Yay for the scan results. I bet it?s nice to have everything out in the open now
Wholelottalove Congrats on the scan, I bet it?s amazing to feel baby wriggling already
Walkthedog my 24 hour party animal needs to settle down lol. My 1st day back at work today and I only slept for about 3 hours lastnight. I?m propping my eye?s open with match sticks
JodieO hopefully you wont get them anywhere else this time either. I had a growth spurt as a teenager and have them most places
LittleB My scan is Wednesday too. Good luck
WWSB Good luck for today, fingers crossed
SeoMum I agree this thread moves so fast, it?s really hard to keep up. I have only managed to do such a big post today as I?ve been back at work and been doing it all day 
Hopeful1980 congrats on the positive scan, must be a huge weight lifted for you
Emmaxmas Congrats on your scan, lovely news. Do what my DH has said keep your legs closed for a few days around xmas and say firmly your not coming out yet He made me chuckle.

So I am slightly upset as I have not watched Glee from lastnight yet and have been reading the posts, got halfway through before realised and have now spoiled the ending oh well I?m still going to watch it.
1st day back at work today and I am so so tired! Just want to go to bed when I get home. Day off tomorrow but still have to get up to get to my scan.
Good luck to everyone for their scans tomorrow. Will meet you here to see all the good news

chloesbaby · 15/06/2010 17:44

i have got my scan on thursday! woopee! i had to phone the midwife as I hadn't heard anything and she was surprised i hadn't had a letter from the hospital.
am getting slightly concerned about my postman actually. several things i KNEW were being sent - such as a congrats card from my mum - never arrived.
maybe i should phone the local sorting office and complain?
descriptions of your vivid preg dreams made me laugh. the other night i dreamt in perfect detail how a transvestite stole my swimming costume and i was chasing him round an enormous plush hotel leaping down flights of stairs, with a bump, trying to get it back. he told me he needed it as he was about to be called on to the football pitch to play for england. no, i've no idea either.
oh well, something to smile about when you wake up...