The PESH Deli - where black-humoured diffed BESHes turn to hormonal mush.

[CurlyCasper]

If you don't like the title, tough. I'm still talking

BESH BABYWIN STATS

This isn?t a fucking list ? right?

BESH BAYBEES
dontrythisathome, Bay Amaryllis born March 25.
Cheggers, twinz girlz, born April 12

UPDIFFED
Ponymum, the one with the worst hips, due mid June
CUNextTuesday, takes no shit from the Daily Mail, due June 28
IggyPiggy, The one who loves BUMSEX, due July 20
CurlyCasper, the ginger with the dodgy joints due July 21 (girl)
Skihorse, cradle snatching web geek, due July 22 (boy)
Carrots, organic hippy hunter, due July 25 (boy)
Cosmosis, the one that likes a good ride, due August 22
Pandora, She's got wings, due September 6
skatergrrrl, the one that overtook the rest, September ??
VAG, lives in De Nile, due 19 September
Honeymoo, puppy lover, due November 1
silversky, the biggest farter, due 21 October (first baybee)
okiecokie, self-confessed control freak, due November 6
SomethingSuitablyWitty, benelux babe, due November
ReginaMonologue, must-get-the-goss-from-ski, due November 20

curls that is quite early to start mat leave innit? I was thinking of finishing end July, not surethough.

skates you can haz that as an FB status, as long as you credit men

credit men

cossie I have six weeks holiday first. My actual maternity leave begins about a week before EDD! I decided to finish a month earlier than initially planned because of the various body hassles I was having earlier this year - and I'm very glad I did. I'm getting so tired and sore. Extra weight not good for bad joints! But I'm sure someone as active as you would be able to go on much longer. A woman at work who is due at the same time as me plans to work right up to almost the end, and she's feeling great and is all chirpy and happy

Filling broke at some point overnight/this morning. Dentist is already holding off on giving me one new one until the baby is born. Wonder they'll be able to do anything about this new gaping hole? Thankfully it does not hurt...yet!

I made a well out of cushions for my bump and slept on my front for the first time in ages last night. Was quite nice, for a while

Legally I have to stop 4 weeks before the EDD, in this sense I'm a bit lucky because Julian's official EDD is a couple of days after when we expect him to be here. i.e., The EDD was initially worked out using the wheels of fortune, but I suspected I'd OV'd early and the dating scan confirmed... Basically it means I'll be able to stay at work a week longer - I'd rather have my time with him. But... it all very much depends how I feel at the time. If I feel shit I'm going to take a few days/weeks holiday.

Well Julian has objected very strongly to going horseriding - I puked at 7pm, 4am and 10am.

As far as books go, all I know is that no matter what I do - it's going to be "wrong" in somebody's eyes. All any of us can do, is as reggie suggests - weigh up the options and go with what you feel comfortable with. I'm not sure I'd want to follow a set routine as dictated by anyone. I'm rather looking forward to fucking up my prodigy in my own way.

curly yikes, I can understand they don't want to give you a metal one, but can't they give you a temporary filler? You can't wait another 3 months to get that filled. I thought pregnant women were supposed to be taken very seriously wrt dentistry?

Sorry honey for the ice-cream thread - I didn't realise until after I'd posted that it was yours. Obviously the correct answer when a father of a baybee-to-be starts criticising your choices is to waggle your hips, point to your abdomen and say "will you be carrying this for the next x months?".

curls I can totally see why you want to stop early, having the hol before makes sense. I actually want to officically finish mid aug and have 2 weeks off before that, making it end July. Would love to finish now though really, am so un-interested in work, would love to just potter and grow my baybee.

My mat leave starts 2 days before my due date. But in the same way that my company have managed to wangle only paying me 2 thirds of my normal monthly wage throughout my pregnancy (and for more, less interesting work, too!) I have found an obscure loophole that enables me to make 7 days holiday last 6 weeks. So will actually not be gracing work with my presence from mid July. It's all just a game, and it's how you play it that counts!

Ski is it compulsory to go on mat leave 4 weeks before in NL?

Went for a little ride today, and only realised just how far we had gone when it was time to start heading back. We were out for 2 hours! Be the time we got home there was just no comfy way to sit in the saddle - it was painful on my bum to walk, but when I trotted my bump bounced till I got a stitch. We tried briefly to canter, but the horse had other ideas and refused to take part in any game called 'cantering through the bluebells with a 5 months pregnant owner on his back!' Probably should be pleased with the horse for that! (I took him to a show at around about the same stage last time, and he wouldn't canter for me then, either.)

Cas I am sure they could give you a temporary filling. Also, is there anything wrong with having a white filling, other than the extra cost?

Don't worry Ski. Mr moo wouldn't allow me to eat until until I had verifiable proof (bloody pedant).

Hotmilk bras ROCK. 3 out of 6 a sure fire hit. Still bit scaffolding like compared to the wisps of lace I used to expect to hold up my 34Es but v pretty and my boobs look the right shape.

In other news (rots you will like this) booking in went v well. C&W antenatal department apparently deserted on a Saturday and got seen v quickly etc. Lovely young enthusiastic MW who actually punched the air when I said that I'd like to consider a homebirth as well. She had only been there 6 weeks but no one had asked for one yet... I've got to call the senior MW this week to find out more and if I can stay in that MW team but she seemed really positive. After my doula appointment (thanks Okie you are a love for passing her on) we ended up considering it seriously - which hadn't occurred to me for one minute. It was a real penny dropping moment when I suddently realised that I didn't want to be in hospital for a second longer than I had to, be parted from Mr Moo at any stage and wanted to do it in my own time and not feel clock watched by being in hospital...

However, I still have a list of questions about what happens if... so would be interested to hear your views peshes.

God for someone who was thinking about consultant led care 5 minutes ago, I really am a bleeding nutter.

honey That all sounds good to me, there are two of us here I think doing homebirths (me and carrots). I agree with all the reasons you state - plus there's a homebirth story in my book where they say that after the midwife had gone they sat in bed, the three of them, drinking champagne and I thought that sounded like utter bliss. Trouble is I get a fleck of dust in my eye every time I read it. As for what happens if?... well for me, I'm only allowed to have it at home weeks 37-42 - outside of those boundaries there is no negotiation - I'm going to the hospital. My midwife team are very experienced and if they tell me I need to go in I won't argue with them for a second, I honestly really do trust them and if they say he (or I) are in trouble - then we go and I do NOT whinge like a baby that my favourite candles are not available...

boxer I think it's a Dutch-wide thing, 4/6/ or 8 weeks beforehand. I still have 5/6 weeks holiday in hand for this year so I'll use that when most appropriate - but as I'm working from home 3 days a week these days it's not like I'm getting knackered trundling around town.

cossie I totally agree about growing the baybee thing. I'm letting a lot of things "slide" these days - I can't be arsed with the fight - all I care about is my baybee.

I have just worked out who backinbox is.
Honey glad appts went well. It was a friend of mine that used her before and I would be happy to put you in touch with her if you want more info of things "in practice". I desperately wanted a homebirth last time but it wasn't to be. If you plan to have a paddling pool remember it needs to be somewhere it can easily be filled with warm water! I have a friend whose husband spent a large amount of time boiling kettle and tipping kettle water in to regulate the temperature in theirs!

thanks for advice. will phone dentist on Monday and see what the score is. The tooth they are filling after birth hasn't "gone" yet, so she wanted to wait until she could x-ray etc (and for the mercury thing) I reckon they will have to do something with this one. I don't even know what white fillings cost, but will ask.

Knackered after lots of gardening activity. First barbecue of 2010 today, accompanied by stubbie beers . Shame my back hurts so much now.

cossie - yup, completely disinterested for months now. Growing babies should be a full-time job!

Glad your plan is coming together moo!

I'm not sure you'll need a permanent white filling, but I know they can fill it with something "cheap and cheerful" which should last a few months. I've had it done myself on a very sensitive tooth because she wanted to give the tooth time to de-sensitise before putting the metal in, so in the interim needed to put "something" on it. Agreed though, you'd rather not have the x-ray unless totally necessary! It's all relative though isn't it? I mean say you were to break your leg - they're not going to um and ah and say "oh she's pregnant" are they? I had to get tested for MRSA etc. before I was allowed treatment at my local hospital - I asked what would've happened if I'd been brought in on a stretcher after a car crash? They said, obviously in those cases you just get on with it.

BBQ is a gardening activity? There was a poster at the gardening centre advertising a "BBQ demo" - I will send Jailbait along. He'll be all "I really don't care about gas pipes, just put the fucking meat on". I love the garden centre, we spent ages cooing at the bunnies and the guineas and the chinchilla and and and. They had chickens with hairy ankles. And exotic birds which whilst I hate seeing in cages - are just soooooo beautiful.

honey I noticed on your fb page that one of your friends had said "OMG! you'll only get gas & air" - true, but you shouldn't actually need more. It'll sound daft now, but the further I get through this pregnancy, the more I'm able to look at newborns and their giantfreakyheids and think "hmm, yes, it will hurt - but I can do it" - it is after all what our bodies were designed for. We were talking yesterday about the fact that if I'm in the bedroom screaming and produce one, the dogs will raise some serious eyebrows at me and think "silly cow, I could've done SEVEN!" Btw, Gas + Air is bloody brilliant = doncha remember those Nancy Regan inspired T-shirts with:

Just say NO

written on them?

Gas BBQs are cheating - get Jailbait to figure out how cavemen cooked their food!

Wrt white filling vs temporary filling. Won't it cost more to have the cheap temporary filling and then go back and have a metal one put in anyway, because the dentist will have to do it twice? Plus a white filling looks better and doesn't have mercury in it. Not trying to sway you either way, but just thinking what I would think. I think my fillings by private dentist are about 50% more than mercury fillings by same dentist. NHS will do mercury fillings for free, but you have to pay full whack for white ones. I am not with a private dentist because I am posh, but because I wanted to be seen by a dentist before I was 70, and there aren't any NHS ones spare round here.

the BBQ was earned - following lots of back-killing gardening activity

You have animals in Dutch garden centres? I was a little upset to see that Pets at Home has started selling bearded dragons. So many of these amazing creatures get abandoned and now they are openly available to every idiot who happens to pop in to coo at the animals after eating their MacDonalds.

And PaH did not sell dog sunscreen... (Mutley has pink exposed bits that go very red in the sun)

Packing and tidying today. I'm soooooooo thrilled

I was joking about the gas BBQ - who in their right minds? Reminds me of an expat BBQ I attended here once where the hostess (with the mostess) covered the ENTIRE BBQ in tin foil (because charcoal gives you cancer) - finished most things in the oven - tried to set me up with her BIL who had a boil on his neck the size of an egg - and also sat there stuffing eclair after eclair in her mouth and saying "I don't know why I'm so fat..." I lit a cigarette at the bottom of the garden and was never invited back to that social circle.

curly Yep, pets here- pretty normal. Not sure it's any worse than arseholes over-cramming a cage in their back garden and putting an ad in the freebies... I haz decided my resolve will crack about 30 seconds after Julian says "Mum, cannihavearabbit?".

I have to shave my legs and then we're going swimming - huzzah!

We have a gas BBQ Why the bloody fuck would we mess around with proding at coals when we can get straight to the burnt stuff?

This infernal child has hiccups AGAIN. This will be the first of at least half a dozen bouts during the day.

Wahhh, this preggo game is rubbish. I spent last week feeling tired and sick, completely lost my appetite, so felt crap. Then since yesterday I have felt fine, so am now fretting it has gone Any PESHes got some wise words for me....

Yes. It will peak and trough. Stop fretting.

I have been away for a few days in the land of no wifi.

So I see curly resisted the suggestion to use the word ponycunt in the new thread title. Why ever was that?

Nice to see you weewee! Welcome to a completely new range of menkulness afflictions.

okie I'm with you: I burst out crying when I saw the new John Lewis ad last night. Not just a couple of little tears either - proper tears streaming down my face, blow my nose, three tissue job. For a 30 second tv ad.

ski Well done on the riding!

boxy I notice you didn't actually deny that you are posh - simply that that's not the reason you have your own private dentist. (But I relate. Same situation around here.)

ski et al - MrP insists on proper charcoal BBQs. I think it's precisely because it's such a drawn out faff which requires him sitting out there with a beer and the weekend papers in order to tend the coals. The food does taste incredible though.

Incredible food - yes, I sometimes find it unbelievable what food can come off a BBQ like!

DD was carefully trained so that her first words were 'Daddy I want a puppy,' but even that didn't crack his hard exterior. He did allow the pony, though, because it will take her mind off boys when she hits her teens.

Cas just use kid's sunscreen on the mutt's pink bits. That's what we do with the horses. BFF's horse has been licking Nivea off her nose for 10 years and it hasn't killed her yet.

I am just back from swimming and it was BRILLIANT! I can't recommend it enough to any of you! I was able to bend, stretch, bounce and do all these wonderful things which have been out of reach for months. It really was fantastic - I think I went a bit overboard and swam too far and will need to have a snooze this afternoon, but I'm definitely going back next week. It felt wonderful to do exercise with no strain. I also went down the flume.

mas Do you want to feel better or do you want to be puking at 28 weeks?

Just came on to correct the date of birth for Bay - is 18 march!!

Also congrats to Cheggers!!

Would recommend pregnancy yoga by the way. is my one big tip. Really gave me a relaxed pregnancy and birth. I also had a doula and planned a homebirth which also relaxed me a lot.

How are ye all??