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**August 2010** Part 6!! Starting to show with gusto now ladies.

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CherryPie3 · 14/04/2010 11:27

Thread 6.

You lot talk too much.....

Happy chatting

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parkgirl · 14/04/2010 20:44

Thanks all for your comments - I keep telling myself I am stronger than everyone gives me credit for. I think the point of the less that is available the more you cope is a valid one.

(I just keep remembering the red haired girl on OBEM screaming like a banshee!! - lol!!)

aendr · 14/04/2010 20:47

I asked for an epidural, but apparently not strongly enough so the midwife didn't think I meant it. I come from a branch of science where if you ask for something, in good time (knowing that they have to get hold of an anaesthetist) you get it. When I asked where it was, I ended up having an argument with the midwife about having asked, but it was still too late.
In the end, I managed perfectly well on just TENS and gas and air (after 51 hours of labour, but only 5 or so active labour) and don't expect to ask for an epidural this time, though I know every birth is different, so I'm keeping an open mind.
(But I'll be on IV antibiotics this time so the birth will definitely be different.)

mrsZaC · 14/04/2010 20:48

oh yeah keep forgetting to tell you girls, I've booked in for hypnobirthing classes starting on the 13th of May (@ 24 wks), got 4 3hr private classes with DH so looking forward to getting him all prepped for his role as birthing partner!!

I thought I would splash out and use my health in pregancy grant as it's looking more and more likely that I can't have any local anesthetics so thought I ought to prepare myself for as natural birth as possible

Any of you lot tried hypnobirthing? think it will make a good combo with the birthing pool.

x

vitapulchra · 14/04/2010 21:16

Good evening, ladies! You've posted so much that this new post will immediately seem out of date, so bear with me . . .

CherryPie, please confirm me on the list again. I'm such a poor poster, but I do try to keep up with you lot. And as of today's scan, you can update my details with a BOY!!!! That'll be DS3 for me! We've already picked out a name and now it's lovely to talk about little William with the other DCs instead of just "the baby." All seems well so I'm thrilled.

Vix, I also think it was brave of you to post about your abortion. I'm pro-life but I feel sympathetic to the situation you found yourself in, and the suffering you endure now because of it. This may seem like backward thinking, but the suffering of women who get abortions is one of the many reasons I'm against it. I think the emotional toll is high and as far as I can tell this aspect of it is rarely acknowledged or discussed. It's an incredibly difficult decision to make and live with, and treating it like just another form of birth control does great injustice to the women who choose to use it. From my perspective this makes your post all that much more courageous.

Chulita, I recommend reading Solve Your Child's Sleep Problems by Richard Ferber, a book I swear by. It's written by an American dr who runs a sleep clinic in Boston esp for children. He explains the science of sleep then describes how to approach nearly every type of sleep problem you could imagine. I've used his advice with all my DCs and it has revolutionised our nights--now very peaceful! I found it in my local library but otherwise you can purchase it here. (Shipping from US is cheaper than trying to buy it on amazon.co.uk., and you can use your UK address and cc).

I was feeling better about how big I'm getting, then went out with teensy-weensy size 8 SIL who thoughtfully remarked on how absolutely huge I was for only 20 weeks. Nice. Also have developed real varicose veins, which run in the family. Am wearing incredibly expensive compression tights every day but wonder how I'll manage that in August? But oh well. After the scan today and seeing my little boy I'm so delighted that, for now anyway, I just don't care. He's so lovely!!!!

vix206 · 14/04/2010 21:21

You girls inspired me to look at cots, I'm dead set on the co-sleeper from kiddicare but think we'll need a moses basket or carry-cot for downstairs daytime naps.... Its all still such a mystery to me!! Fun window shopping though

mrsZac, I have the Natal Hypnotherapy CD ready to listen to from 32 weeks onwards, and plan to go to this course in May:

www.mindfulmamma.co.uk/mindful-mamma

x

vix206 · 14/04/2010 21:22

Oh vitapulchra, congrats on your scan - another little boy for our list

CazEM · 14/04/2010 22:52

Wow ladies! It has taken me well over an hour to catch up and read everyones posts from today!

Congrats to vita on your little William! Its lovely to give baby a name isn't it!

I've had an ok day, but there is an air of unease in school. New class lists for children and staffing have been issued for next year in the last couple days and there are a lot of unhappy people, there is a major change across the whole school, and when you consider there are around 80 staff it seems unnecessary to cause such a large amount of upset.

I'm not particularly happy about my class change - all my support staff will be different in September. Now considering there will be a new teacher (for 2 days a week, my job share is taking on one of my days so they only need a new teacher for Thurs/Fri), and taking into account I work with the most medically vunerable children in the school, to have a completely new team to the class as well as a teacher in my opinion is putting my children at risk. Recognising and dealing with their seizures (some of which can be subtle, seizures dont always mean lots of jerking around, it can be as subtle as staring into space), children who need suctioning regulaly to keep their airways clear etc, and everything else that goes on in my class in day, it seems ludicrous to me to change the entire staff team, espcially with me going off on maternity. how can this be considered safe practice?!! Kids parents are going to freak when they find out and quite frankly I don't blame them. I've voiced my opinion with management, but it seems they are going to take no notice and dig their heels in....

Also selfishly thinking, returning to work next year will only be harder if it is back into a team who will be well established in their routine by then and never worked with me before or know how I do things, stamping my 'authority' or remotely feeling part of it that late in the year will be really difficult when I won't have built any sort of relationship with them.
So anyway, to vent it out a group of us went to Harvester for tea tonight to cheer ourselves up, lovely evening, completely stuffed!!

Cherry - liking new list!

Also on the sleeping/cot issue, I've been tormenting myself about it. We have zero room in our bedroom (tiny), there is absolutley no space for a cot, and we've been struggling to think about how we can arrange things to even fit in a moses. Had resolved to just put baby straight into her own room, (don't flay me!) but I feel ever so guilty about it. Sooo, found a possibilty I hope can work, put a moses infront of built in wardrobe (littlest of spaces still), in the night, even if it is only for a few weeks until we know where we are with night feed routines and I know baby is settled. It will mean she'll be at the foot of our bed. Not directly next to us, but this will be ok yeh? I need reassuring ladies as I'm feeling awful I can't have her next to me through the night to reassure her. This is my best plan so far. Just hope a moses fits there now, otherwise we are back to own room and me feeling like the meanest Mummy in the world!! How long do babies fit into moses btw?!

Right time for bed I think. And whoever said about the heartburn, it is totally rubbish isn't it. But I think I can cope with it better than the constant sickness of 1st trimester. (at the moment!). I think mine is a bit self inflicted though, I'm indulging in far to many treats. If I just behaved and stayed away from the lovely sweet chocolaty foods I'm sure I wouldn't suffer for it afterwards!

Anyway, night and love to all. Sorry for going on a lot again! x

Jamiki · 15/04/2010 01:22

Ladies, I am impressed and awe inspired by the number of you birthing without epidurals welldone.

Parkgirl: I've had two epidurals and would not entertain the idea of birthing without one (although nothing is guaranteed). I had contractions very early in the peace that curled my hair they were so painful.

I would very definately begin labour at a place that CAN provide an epidural IF you want one. You may not want one but if you do and one is not available you risk having a negative birth experience. Excercise your choices.

You may very well go drug free but trust me if you decide you want one after hours of pain you want to be where you can get one.

I'm so nervous (scared) about birthing number three I'd elect a caesar if it wasn't risky for the bub.

Mmm sponge pudd....

CazEM · 15/04/2010 07:29

So much for bed girls... it was fine until DH decided to join me in it. (Around 1am I think) Then he woke me up (the clock said 1.30am) and kept me awake snoring, (he snores like nothing else, but only bothered me to this extent since being pregnant and becoming such a light sleeper!)

I've spent most of the night on the sofa to get away from the noise and feel awful this morning. Its going to be a really long day now with this shatteredness and I was supposed to be going for a swim tonight. Sofas are not designed for pregnant laides, especially those approaching the heavily pregnant stage!!!!

I see a strop coming on when he gets up (might sound unfair, but its his fault after all, and I'm allowed to have my hormonal strops!) and he can find somewhere else to sleep tonight so with any luck I get a fairly decent nights sleeps apart from the needing a wee aspect!!

starshaker · 15/04/2010 08:02

Hey ladies, well im all ready to leave. Just need to wait on dd finishing her porridge. So excited and cant wait to see the babies again and hopefully find out what team im on. Still convinced its 1 of each but will just need to wait and see.

babyducky · 15/04/2010 08:20

Hope it goes well starshaker

I spent ages writing a long post last night & it vanished!! Grrrrr!

I had an epidural last time, I said I wanted 1 as soon as I got pregnant because I know I'm not good with pain, it worked well, I didn't feel a thing after they put it in, but I did end up with episiotomy & ventouse so I am going to try & avoid having 1 this time, Im not sure how I will cope though! None of my friends who have given birth recently have had 1, they have all done it with just gas & air!

Have a good day all x

babyducky · 15/04/2010 08:22

I'd like to try hypnobirthing mrszac, not sure if I can afford a course yet, does anyone know which of the books/CDs are good??

girlsyearapart · 15/04/2010 08:25

ooh looking forward to hearing star

I have my 24 week check with the midwife today. DH wanted me to take the dds with me rather than wake him up (in from work after 1am) but the room she sees me in is teeny and I can't imagine them causing havoc while I lie on the couch to hear the heartbeat to be very relaxing..

Had another birth dream last night- it was a girl again so now it's 1 boy vs 2 girl in the dream stakes. And she could sit up-how advanced

congratulations vita love the name william.

Bubbabear · 15/04/2010 08:27

Good luck Star, i hope everything goes well & the babies co-operate so u can see if ur feelings are right about the sex.

Cant wait for mine tomorrow! It's not until 4pm but it gives DP a chance to get the 4 & a half hour train journey back from North Wales so will be worth it to have him there too We're both convinced it's a boy (DP even refers to the baby as 'him'!) but of course we really don't mind either way long as bubs is all healthy.

Keep looking at the last scan photo & looks to me like there's a hint that it's a boy but it could just as easily be part of a leg I suppose . The pic is on my profile if anyone is bored today & fancies playing the guessing game with me?!

Sympathise about the lack of sleep due to snoring Caz, DP is often guilty of that too, although usually a good prod in the ribs often wakes him enough to stop (at least for a while) but doesn't wake him fully so he doesn't realise what I'm doing! Ooooh I'm so mean, but a girl needs her fair share of sleep!

Wishing everyone a lovely day. Sunshine is out - yay! Might even get dressed & go for a swim...

Chulita · 15/04/2010 08:32

CazEm don't feel bad about not being able to keep your LO in with you if you physically can't fit the moses basket in. Our last house was a bit bigger and we had DD next to us but there's no way we can do that in this place. It will fit in our room but nearer the door at an angle. I moved DD out of her basket at around 9 weeks because although she fit in she'd flail her arms and wake herself up by bashing the sides. Hope you have a good day to balance out the rubbish night!

Good luck starshaker, hope they spread out for you to see

vita I'll have a look at that book, thank you!

Need a shower and then off to the post office. Someone sent DD something and there wasn't enough postage so I've got to go and get it.

marzipananimal · 15/04/2010 10:04

wow! I don't read the thread for one day and it takes me an hour to catch up!
I got a really nice maternity cardigan from H&M yesterday (can't find it on internet though) for £24.99 - more than I'd normally pay but was struggling to find anything in the shops and I've only got 1 jumper left that doesn't show a bit of flesh aroung my middle

Maternity clothes shopping is harder than i expected, esp as I don't like shopping online for clothes - things always look nice in the picture but weird on me!

Congrats to everyone with good scan news and good luck for today starshaker

Right, should probably get dressed!

marzipananimal · 15/04/2010 10:09

ooh, by the way, I haven't seen maternity skirts anywhere, do such things exist?

NichyNoo · 15/04/2010 10:15

Good luck for the scan star

I too have started thinking about the birth...especially since the doc said baby had a big skull yeterday.

My dilemma is that in Belgium you either have an epidural or nothing. Gas and air, pethidine etc. are not available here. So it is all or nothing.....really don't know what to do.....

vix206 · 15/04/2010 10:35

marzipananimal - asos.com have quite a few maternity skirts, I have bought loads of their dresses but the skirts are all a bit short for me

loobyt · 15/04/2010 11:13

Just got back from Tesco with a syrup sponge pudding for this evening

Off to the doctors now as I think DS (2.2 year old) has craddle cap we shall see!

Enjoy for scan star

Oh and maternity skirts, I got a brand new long floaty one on ebay for £3 including postage, it's a Blooming Marvallous one with the tags still on it, so worth a look on there.

starshaker · 15/04/2010 11:13

Well a quick update from my phone but can you please change the list to say team violet. Sooooo pleased

Chulita · 15/04/2010 11:29

starshaker how cool! That's what I'd like for my next pregnancy Woohoo!

marzipananimal · 15/04/2010 11:30

congratulations star how exciting!

parkgirl · 15/04/2010 11:32

ooh Nichynoo that puts my dilemma to shame - can't imagine having no pain relief at all.

marzipan I had the same thought about a matenity skirt - saw a nice one on M&S but they have sold out in my size - for any svelt girls out there they have smaller sizes (soft denim look - nice). I never used to wear trousers pre pg but now can't find a skirt anywear - so its been trousers all the way!

CherryPie3 · 15/04/2010 11:34

Good morning. I'm a bit later than normal aren't I?

You're a chatty bunch as well lol, can't believe how much I missed last night!! Taken me ages to catch up.
Got my 25week check today, taking dd with me cos she wants to hear the heartbeat. Hoping to get my MatB1 today and the HIP forms so I can get them sent off.
Here we go with the catch-up...

WOWOWOWOWOW!!!!

So happy for you Starshaker
And you were right!! Your violet twins are on the list now

Vita You're back on the list my love, and huge congrats on your little one, loving the name choice btw

Parkgirl What you said about knowing whats available impacting your ability to cope is spot on....I agree completely!!!
My personal choice is to never ever have an epidural - simply because I'm scared to death of it causin paralysis (irrational I know considering the risk is almost nothing...). I'm just as terrified of needing a c-section too cos of the spinal block they need to do.

As others have said - all birth experiences are different - you need confidence in yourself and your body.

CazEm Why are they doing that to the staffing? It doesn't make sense!! I can completely understand why you'd be angry/frustrated with them. Hope you enjoyed you 'venting' at Harvesters tho

MrsZaC - those hypnobirthing classes sound great!! Very sensible to start considering bith options now.

Sparkle How sweet, awwww 3lbs9oz is teeny bless him. Hows he doing?
My dd was born at 35 weeks and weighed 7lbs 3oz!!! Imagine if I'd gone to term!!!
Do you think we all really will go our separate ways or will we stick together on post-natal? I hope so - you're a lovely bunch

pample Did you cave and eat those kitkats?

Cakey My mw does exactly the same - it disgusting isn't it?? I usually throw it away and get a new bottle from reception on my way out. Much cleaner!!

Chulita YOU have to pay the postage - thats not a very nice gift is it??

Marzi I'm having the same problem trying to find maternity skirts - they just don't seem to be anywhere!! Not even eBay!!! Will keep looking tho, I need to wear a size 20 so that limits where I can look for them...

Phew......you chatty bunch - I'm exhausted now...

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