to try or not to try on the wagon that is the question

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hi ladies here is our new thread

morning

off to my friends today
going in am in

max - didnt know u and cant were related!!

gruff - definetly test good luck

hope u all have good days

girls seem better today thanks

dd1 had lots of sleep last nite

Morning! Phew RUGBY that does sound a tough night I'll try and post The Routine later today (I think I did list it a week or so ago for MOOS (4-6, 6-8), but will post again unless you can be bothered to look back). Hope you get your nap! Ooh and I know the soft shoe website!!! Think it's the Starchild one you're after - I know it well (sorry TINKS ).
MMM you do sound very efficient Enjoy your day and I hope the medicine helps a little with ds. I know people say cough meds do little, but I've always found them to really help sooth sore throats though dds have a fear of the one I have in the fridge (they call it 'cherry hell' - you get the idea ).
GRUFF, excellent news on your sister's ds - has he got a name yet? How are you feeling at the mo'?
GIRAFFE, seems like dd is doing brilliantly in the new room - lol at kisses ..I think
MOOS meant to say your house looks ace - agree, it will be snapped up
Hello to everyone else - haven't heard from SES in a few days, hope you're ok if lurking x Hope you're OK PLAYING xxx
Well wedding anniversary today (9 years) and dh has day off. DD3 and ds have been dropped at nursery, older dds over to MIL, and we're going out for lunch midday. I am also being treated to somthing to wear from my fave shop (French Connection). Dh also mentioned trying for another baby this morning (not actually trying THIS morning ) and in the true way of reverse pyschology it's me getting cold feet now! We MAY have a feeble go at it this month, and if no result then wait until this time next year. Ideally I would like another (even 2 - that old even numbers thing), but I'd wait 2 years or so. The thing that's getting in my way is my age...In other words, if I was 35 I'd wait 2 years, but in two years I'll be (nearly) 42!!!!.(I know 40s are a higher risk time, but apparently risks really start to creep up 42 plus) What would you lot do? (as if I need to ask )
Right, I have 2 blissful hours on my own in the house. Going back to bed with a coffee and my book!

next for shoes

Morning all,

Gruff - look after yourself. Whether you just had a nasty bug and weird hormones or a very brief pg it sounds like its taken a lot out of you so take the time to rest. I don't blame you for not wanting to test though, it does make it seem rather final.

Deige - thanks for the advice. In that case I have decided I am going to count it as ovulation and will strangely be looking forward to AF in a couple of weeks.

Rugby - sorry to hear you had such a dreadful night. Hopefully you will get that nap!

GY - Yes and no in answer to your question. The doctor at the EPU was fairly clear that there is no biological reason after a straight forward natural mc not to try straight away but they prefer you to wait a cycle simply to make dating easier. Well, dating is never straight forward with my irregular cycles anyhow and that seems a pretty crap reason to wait if that waiting will cause more stress, which in my case I think it would. For some people waiting is def the right thing to do but for me I just want to get on with it, I am not so good at "playing the waiting game" hence my orginal name.

So although I wouldn't say I am "trying", I'm not doing anything to stop pg. However as my energy levels still aren't great we haven't exactly been getting up to that much GOFing and realistically with my hormones all over the shop I can't say catching is likely either, so not really expecting anything at all this month. After first AF is when we will start properly ttcing, which is why I am hoping I have ov'd so I should get AF in a couple of weeks then we can get back in the saddle properly.

Thanks everyone else for your concern.

Right, better go and get on with the day.

x -post Deige. Happy anniversary. I think you know what the wagon will day regarding ttcing, get on with it!

Diege - happy anniversery and hooray for ttcing. I looked at the lists you posted for Moosy and they were for 3-4months and 4-6months - are there any differences for 6+ months? No rush though - you should be on commission!

Morning Playing and Tink.

Well I managed 45min in bed and feel a bit better. DD is biting and chewing everything this morning (mostly her toys but grabbing and biting my face if I get within reach, ouch) so she might have another tooth coming. I can't feel it though and she is drooling less than when the first poked through so who knows.

Right off to look at Starchild and Next.

DIEGE happy anniversary hope you have a great day.

DS isnt well his cough is sort of a whooping cough, and is really hurting him, you can here it on his chest just with him brething, very heavy rattling poor boy.
he just keeps going from one extreme to the other. just hope some medicine will relieve the pain. hes seems to be struggling for breath with having a cold too. so hoping hes fine soon.
still not dressed. but all 3 kids are haha must get dressed as keep gettin asked when were going.

Hi again! Thanks for the ttc-encouragement...I suppose if I'm going to go for it, it makes sense to start asap...I think
MMM, does ds's chest sound quite 'loose' when he coughs? Just keep an eye in case it seems 'tight', and if so I'd pop to GP. As long as 'loose' and upper respiritary he should be fine. Agree it's really distressing when they sound in pain Would some calpl help too, to take the edge off?
RUGBY, yes I think it's pretty much the same for 6 +, but will double chck when I dig out the book and post any 'update' to the routine . Oh and also check out Inchblue website for shoes - I like the sandals they do, plus some very cute animal designs. You'll be spoiled for choice with a dd!
Hi TINKS! Enjoy your day at your friend's.
Right, never did get that coffee..

Morning

Sorry not been around, have just been so bloody busy, DS1 off school for Easter, the course work, the house, had friend over for the night on Friday, lots of wine, think I can say I honestly only started vaguely human again by Monday

Really quick catch up,

Gruff, really sorry it's not worked out this month, I am with you on the testing, my first MC I never tested after, just couldn't bring myself to see a line when there was already nothing there, but the month before last I felt I needed to test after the bleeding started just to see it eventually go negative. It's great news about your DN though, roll on Thursday, at least hopefully it is something you can look forward to

Rugby, great news about the offer! Sorry for C's bad night, hopefully the GF routine will help. I do feel for you, DS1 was just the same, he didn't sleep through the night till he was 5 years old, no matter what we did!

Playing, it is very possible that you're OVing, I read a study after my first MC, can't remember who it was by or whatever now but it went into great detail about post MC OVing, I know so many people who have gotten pregnant the month after MC, and my sister, by the time she knew she'd MC'd was already pregnant with my nephew.

Diege, Happy anniversary! And yay for TTCing! Knew you'd do it!

Tink, sorry the girls are poorly Hope they're better soon.

Right, I have forgotten everything else, sorry if I've missed anything big, head is all over the place as per.

Not sure if I've been back on since we saw the house on Thursday? Well to cut a long story short, it looks like we may need to push the moving date back a month or so. Basically the owners are moving down to South Wales, they've gone in their caravan for two weeks to find somewhere to live (they are renting at first) so if there is some kind of miricle and they find somewhere empty/ready to move in in 3 and a half weeks, manage to book removals etc. in that time and get their stuff out, then we're good to go, but we're not going to know either way till they get back, by which point we'd have a week and a half to get packed up ourselves and get out, and we can't start packing earlier else if they don't find somewhere (which they're not all that likely to) then we'd end up with half a packed up house for a month+. So it is all a bit up in the air.

And just to complicate things even further, the house that we missed out on when we moved over here, is back on the market, it's a gorgeous big house, and a month ago we'd have jumped at it, but now we've found this other one, and although the layout is a bit quirky, it is bigger where we need it to be (i.e. downstairs), but, oh bloody hell I am so

Argh Nat, please don't tell me stuff like that. 5 years without sleep! The house situation sounds very . An extra month isn't that long to wait (ha - I say that but am so impatient to find out when we can move to the new house ) and you did seem to love it. Is it maybe worth going back to see the other house again and compare them? I might have to ask for some advice for when we move. I'm very excited about decorating DD's room, probably with those big stickers as I'm crap at wallpapering plus bedding, rug, curtains etc. I want it to be colourful and nice for a little girl but as I'm not girly I'm not keen all the really pink frilly stuff and a lot of the girls stuff I've seem is quite bland. I have seen a few nice safari/zoo type themes but they all look like they are for a boy, lots of blue and dark greens. Any good sites/lines you can recommend?

DIEGE what do you mean by loose or tight? he has a temp of 39.3 and he had calpol around 2 hours ago, hes short of breath and not himself at all. really quite worried.

MMM I think I might give NHS Direct if I were you - not wanting to worry you but it may be that it's gone onto his chest and he may need a course of antibiotics. I'm totally basing this on my own Los, and their past illnesses, but remember the dr. telling me that if the cough is 'loose', (ie, quite mucously sounding) it's ok, but if they seem to be pulling in their tummy when breathing, or the cough seems really dry and wheezy, then you may need someone to have a listen in with stethoscope. I don't want to worry yoi, it's probably just the usual childhood cough, but the shortness of breath is something that I think I'd ring NHS up about. Let us know how you get on xxx
Hi NAT! House dilemma does sound , but remember how deeply you fell in love with the last house??? What is your gut instinct saying?
RUGBY, check out Scandi Living website for not-so-sickly wallpapers/stickers for girls (and boys). I've ordered a few samples for ds's room, and while the paper is very pricey, you only need one roll if doing say a feature wall like I am, or even just paint white and add some wall stickers? Aspace also do great wallstickers - a bit girler, but still more 'cool' than sickly princess.

thanks DIEGE just back from the walk in centre, M has tonsilitus, and croup. hes got amoxicilin so hopefully will be back to full health soon. hes fast asleep atm, but keeps waking himself up cughing, its a very dry sort of cough, which must be hurting him. poor lil man.

MMM - poor DS . Hope he bounces back soon.

Hooray, DD slept from 8-6 last night . She slept a bit less than usual yesterday - only 30min in morning, about an hour at lunchtime and 20 min in the evening - so I'm thinking I might have to try and stop her sleeping today again. She usually has an hour in the morning, 1.5-2 hours at lunch and 30-45min in the evening.

Morning ladies

MMM- sorry to hear DS is poorly that great that you got him seen last night. I find the antibiotics kick in within 24hrs.

Nat- sorry for the house dilema.

Diege- WOW and YAY for TTC #5 I am so excited for you. The wagoners are dropping of the wagon like flies at the moment!! If you dont mind me asking- have you had/ will you have any of the screening tests offered to ladies over 35? I am thinking I might be 35 plus before I have #2 so am thinking ahead

Rugby- how was last night?

Playing how is the errmm situation with the EWCM

Gruff- how are you? Did you decide to test anyway yesterday?

MMM- where is Cant? not seen her here for ages.

Tink and everyone else who I've missed-

I had a bit of a suprise at work yesterday- I was told that I am being moved off the my current project tomorrow- that in itself is quite usual for the type of work I do- though we usually get more than 2 days notice. Its frustrating and unsettling though I've just got myself settled into a nice routine with working hours etc and I am actually enjoying it. The journey is really quite reasonable and its not too far from home. Now I have to start again somewhere else which could be miles and miles from home... Line manager was such a w*nker in how he told me - was a bit "by the way" Think he only told me because I happened to be questioning something indirectly related... I could have easily have turned up Monday without knowing about it (boss now on holiday) AND relax....

xpost Rugby.

Hurray for great night!!

quick one- DH just texted to say that the Small Giraffe didnt cry this morning at nursery. Think she has settled down a bit!
Hurray!

Morning

MMM, hope he makes for a quick recovery, sound's like he is very poorly Poor little might. Fingers crossed the AB's will kick in in a couple of days.

Rugby, Hooray!! A whole night's sleep!! I think DS1 was in the extreme camp for not sleeping, he certainly never went 8-6, I can vividly remember when he was 10-ish months he slept for 4 straight hours, DH and I celebrated with a takeaway and alcohol, he'd never slept 4 hours straight, and he didn't do it again till he was 3 and a half years! Even with more experience with babies and sleeptime, I don't think I'll ever work out why he was like that, he dropped his day time nap at 18 months, so he wasn't getting any sleep in the day or anything. Diege has pointed you in almost the same directions I would have done for wall stickers, but if you're serious, send me an email when you're ready and I'll find the rest to match. Just for a quick start though, I was looking through the M&S catalogue yesterday, I don't know if it's online or not, but they had some really nice nursery things, nice and brightly coloured but not sickly girly. If it isn't online they'll send you a book for free.

Diege, hope ou had a lovely day yesterday, what did you get in FC?

Re. the extra month waiting to move, firstly we keep saying an extra month, but realisticly it could be months, if they have as much trouble as us finding somewhere... And secondly, if we move on time, 1st May, it's a Saturday, DH's nephew and brother were going to help us move the furniture etc. into the truck, if it's a month later, 1st June is a Tuesday, his nephew and brother are at work. Thirdly, the week of the 1st June, DH is on call as supervisor which means he has to deal with every call that comes in throughout the UK, so we'd have no big strong men, no DH, I don't think me and the kids are up to the job! God only knows what we'll do if it has to be June.

And of course on top of all of that, we've put our notice in on this place, we have to be out at the lastest of 6th May, now at the moment no one has even come to view it (because it's £200+ over priced) and if it stays that way then there isn't a problem, we'd just end up paying another month here, but if it turns out that they have someone ready to move in on the 7th May, we're a bit buggered!

Lastly we're on the 8th of April, 1st of May sounds like it's ages away but it is actually at the end of the month, and we have no idea, and won't do for another 2 weeks, whether we can move or not. It's just crackers.

I am really trying not to get cross with the owner, they're moving 100+ miles away, with 3 kids, leaving friends, family, jobs etc behind, it isn't easy for them either, but I wish she'd have had more of a plan in place for their move before telling us to hand our notice in. We know she is keen for us to have it, she got our references on Thursday last week, bearing in mind the BH's, the letting agents had them back with a letter saying how pleased she was with them etc. yesterday morning, I think she is feeling the stress of it, she said the husband's new job starts in June, so when we said the earliest we could move would be beginning of May, she jumped on it just thinking that's great, gives them a month to settle before new job etc. while not thinking about how they'd find somewhere by then.

But despite all of this, I think we have decided to stick with this one, the other one (the one we missed out on last time) It is a lovely house, and it could be absolutely gorgeous, nice big airy rooms, better layout, it's detached, and on paper it is exactly what we've been looking for, but, it's just not, our one is bigger, it's got tonnes of storage built in, and if that's not enough there are rooms for storage! Fair enough it's a semi, which is a real PITA, but it isn't the end of the world, and it doesn't have massivly big rooms infact the the first floor, apart from the bathroom is pretty tiny, but with the main living area practially being one space it feels bigger, it will work better for us.

Anyway, have a feeling this post is going to be huge So had better get off, before I'm chucked off the wagon forever! Hope you all have lovely days x

GIRAFFE thats seems a little sudden about the moving hope it isnt so far away for you.
and hope you settle into a routine again soon enough.
RUGBY yay for DD sleeping through, maybe it is the sleeping in the day which is affecting her. fingers croseed you may have cracked it.

well funnily enough with how M was yesterday afternoon and night he slept all the way through from going to bed when we got back, and is still asleep now, poor little man, he must be exhausted especially with his cough that alone kept waking him every 2 mins whenever he tried to sleep.

Sorry x posts Gruff, that's great about SG Not so great about the project though. I take it you have other stuff you can do i.e. it's not a threat to your job or anything?

And now x post MMM, bless him, the sleep will do him good, hope he feels a bit better this morning.

nat - what a pain about house!!!

gir - about work

mm - poor thing hope he gets better soon

diege - hope u had a great anniversary and go gril with ttcing

had a great time with friend yesterday she seems well as can be expected under circumstances!!
enjoyed her goodies
expecting another boy on 20th may

hes still clingy and high temp, having to take deep breaths with every breath, just need to wait for the amoxicilin to kick in and hoping for the best.
sorry x-posts NJ hope the move happens before june then fingers crossed. this house does sound really nice which you have chosen.

M has now gone back to sleep after being dosed up on medicine, and yoghurts. this is not like him. poor boy.
TINK x-posts glad you hada good day with your friend, and glad shes seemin ok

Hello! IN work today, but had a lift in with colleague, so not so bad!
MMM Poor ds, but I'm sure the antibiotics will kick in really soon - amoxicin is great stuff and will see him right in no time [smilke]. I was worrying about you last night, and really glad he's been seen.
NAT, I think you're right going for the 'new' house - makes perfect sense, but do feel your stress - it's the 'no knowing' that's the worst I find. Once you have a scenario in place, even if it's not ideal, it's something you can plan around, but until then keep calm!!! It should at least all be over in the next month or so, and as you say, it may be that you could stay in the house you're in now for that extra month if need be..
GIRAFFE, that's a real PIA about the job transfer - has this happended before? Your boss sounds like a real ar%&*ole . Oh and on screening note, my history is very up and down with the whole antenatal testing thing (influenced I think by being totally emersed in the area anyway in my job and current research). With dd1 (age 31) I had the triple test...false positive...failed amnio...markers on scan etc etc Total nightmare - all fine in end. As a result with dd2 (age 33) no screening other than 20 wk scan. DD3 I was 36 and sort of tipped back to the whole 'I need to know' thing. Had nuchal plus at 12 weeks (private as it's not available up here, even now on NHS) - all fine, though again had 'soft markers' on 20 week (never had a scan in all 4 pregnancies that hasn't 'thrown up' something - all fine all times). With ds (38) I think I got to the point where we decided I wouldn't terminate for say downs anyway, so refused all screening. I concluded that even if you would like to 'know' in advance then you'd need an amnio/cvs to give a definitive answer, and that this gave a 1% mc risk that I wouldn;t risk just 'to know'. Now if no.5 comes along I think I would either have no screening, as of last time, or if I did, then to go somewhere like the fetal medical centre and have an early amnio and possibly cvs. It's something I really need to start thinking about I suppose. I suppose the point I'm trying to make is that if I would terminate for 'abnormality' then I'd opt for early screening (nuchal/cvs) if I wouldn't I wouldn;t bother woth the screening at all as it just throws up 'what ifs' and can well spiral into diagnostics that carry risks.
Right, on that note I'd better ring round my midwives and check they can come and talk to me about screening next week for my research...maybe I can sneak in a few questions about 'older ladies'