PESH Deli - Taking the B out of BESH

[skihorse]

A new thread for the gabbers.

Hopefully we will find out during the course of this thread whether dear cheggers has laid a baybee or two yet!

Good evening people! Now lookie up at this! Who here has got such expanding expansive boobies they have actually burst out of an actual bra? MEEEEee!!!

My mother has gone off to test her brand new caravan out for the weekend in order to make sure it is all ready for our luxuxry weekend in a field at Badminton, and she kindly took DD with her. So OH and I could go out! How fab! We wanted to watch a film - mainly because OH was not up to much as a result of a night out which involved tequila yesterday (while best friend and I sat with babies upstairs and a cup of tea. We know how to spend a Friday night ) But there was nothing on. So we went to the pub for dinner, and about half way through the main course (cod and chorizo fishcakes. I know chorizo is banned. Hey ho. And I had deep fried camenbert for starters,) I felt a weird popping sensation and looked down to see I had deflated on one side. I was wearing an underwired bra - so shoot me - and the wiring had popped completely out. OH forbade me to take the bra off down the sleeve of my top in the manner of my mother, so I had to sit there for the rest of dinner with it poking me in the ribs.

Gosh my life is exciting!

Anyway, on a slightly less exciting topic, it turns out I am feeling 'more pregnant' this time round than I did at the same stage last time. I went for a ride on big horse (not sold yet, but it's only been 2 days,) and when I got back I thought noone could see me so I eased myself off in slow motion going 'owowow-oooooh' as I did so. I did not find out till later that OH and DD were waving out of the window at me, and OH was both mightily amused and slightly horrified at the sight of me stuck on a horse unable to get off without sound effects.

curly What a naughty diggle. I'm so glad she's home safe now though. They do put us through worry and you're right, now is not the time to have to go racing off through the woods after a silly dog! Funny that she stopped in her tracks at the kids, I remember you saying she'd eat anything and any dog worth its salt knows that kids carry food! Congrats on seeing the baby kick, that's brilliant!

pony I will figure it out, my babygrow collection is in double figures now but just no real "outfits" but I think you're right, a little top rather than a feckin' sailor costume! I will hit up the summer sales and see what I can get.

pandy Having stalked you via the sale of your horse I now have your mobile number. Stand by for suggestive text messages from abroad! I'm extremely envious of your trip to Badminton although not entirely convinced about the whole spending a weekend in a small tin box with a mother thing. Can't get on and off eh? I have been accused this morning of "waddling". Somebody's gonna get a beatin'!

The vet came to check on Ginger again yesterday and was pleased but when he asked me to walk her up for him she started seeping a bit of blood... I neglected to tell him that she'd just spent 2 hours racing around like a lunatic, jumping, bucking, farting, going from full out gallop to knee-twisting halts. He told me to put her on box-rest for a week - I nodded and said yes, of course - she won't be of course! (because I'm a bad mummy etc.) She's doing good though and it was absolute bliss at the yard yesterday, it was nearly 20C, I was sat in the sun, most of the others were plaiting up to go off to a dressage competition and it was like being 13 again, hanging out at the yard with "my kind of people". Obviously it's much nicer in the sunshine than the drizzle!

I almost killed jailbait friday night/yesterday. At the supermarket on friday night and got him a top-up for his mobile. His card wouldn't scan and he just fucking ran off to the cashpoint leaving me there getting glared at by a queue of people whilst I was trying to pack. I whipped out my card, tried to carry on packing (was v. v. tired) and she handed over the receipt + phone voucher. He came back I gave him the receipt. He then denied all knowledge of me ever having given it to him. It's only 10 euros but it really pissed me off. I double-checked my handbag, double-checked the shopping bags, my pockets etc. and nothing. I started thinking maybe I was going mad and that preggo brain had made me leave it on the till. Sat up at the stables yesterday and he cleaned out his pockets drawing out a receipt, I joked "haha I bet that's your voucher"... he started to look embarassed. Yep, the voucher. He made me feel like a total twat on friday, absolutely adamant I'd not handed it over. I know it's a silly thing to get upset about but I'm quite particular in my responsibilities.

Morning ladies!

I'm off to meet up with my motorbike cronies today for tea and bacon butties. How I WISH I was able to go on my sportsfastracingbike, but alas a) I'm 6 months pregnant and I wouldn't get one leg in my leathers; and b) I sold it to buy a new house

One day I'll be able to do it all again

Chorizo is ok if cooked anyway, sorry if you thought you woz being a rebel

I've just had a total meltdown, tears, wailing, snotty nose - the works! I was reading the pregnancy book and it said something like now was the time to read ahead to be prepared. Well, that's pretty much how I ended up near hyperventilating that I can't do labour, looking after a little person and that I don't even have any clothes for him. Has anyone else had this or am I just going quietly mad on my own?

ski You are not alone in the panic mode thing. What you need to remember is that 99% of people say they bought too much stuff / prepared for stuff that never happened. And then you always hear stories of someone who left their shopping too late and survived for weeks with nothing but a swaddling cloth or whatevs. As long as the baby has a nappy on and access to your breasts then everything else can be worked out as you go.

Newborn babies are actually pretty cool and there's not much you need to know. They spend quite a lot of time sleeping so you'll just stare at him for hours. And when you go home and he's all yours there's nobody there to say to say you are doing something 'wrong'. Just cuddle, feed, and change the nappy. That's about it. You will be fine.

Pony It's more the birth/labour than anything. There are all these pictures of "positions" during labour which make me wail. Also the thought of having (and you will sympathise) no family support network. Jailbait opened the book and pointed to the pictures of the happy women clutching their newborn baybees... but it's all just overwhelming, I don't feel I can do it all on my own.

But you're not doing it on your own, you have jailbait and you have us lot. It'll be ok honest.

And if you didn't have the occassional meltdown, I don't reckon you'd be normal. I was sitting on the loo the other day and decided I had changed my mind, I don't want a baybee after all. Bit late now though!

ski I think we need Mrs 'Lavender Fields' Carrots to help with reassurance on the birth/labour. As you know I am a fraud mother as I have not actually done that part.

Does it make you feel better or worse if I confess that I don't think I can 'do' labour either? I am worried that my SPD is not as bad this time so they might make me do it vaginally instead of having another c-section. (Yes, I know this is warped thinking and I should be thrilled. But if I am going to do labour I want to be in a pool, or at least in a position other than flat on my back waiting for the forceps to arrive, which is what it will be due to my limited movement and pain problems.)

You have lots of advantages as you will be at home, with your own midwife, so will be a lot more relaxed than the hospital crap. In the early labour you can wander around, watch telly, nose in the fridge, have a bath, and of course tell the Deli how it's going minute by minute.

Are you doing any ante natal classes?

ski you really aren't alone. Perhaps some relaxation or similar pre-natal classes would help you feel more at ease?

Apparently tension/fear can heighten the pain of labour, because we don't let our bodies do what they have to do. So, without wanting to sound too hippy, it's good to learn about everything your body has to do and how you can help it along while keeping yourself calm. I've found my yoga classes really helpful, I've started reading a hypnobirthing book to get some more exercises to practise and I will be attending relaxation/breathing class hosted by a physio with specialist experience in this area. I'm not adamant I want a natural birth or anything, but I do hope that if I can combine all these things I'll get through without descending into panic and needing extreme meds/intervention as a result. It's kept me calm this far (despite talk of a high-risk labour etc), so it might just work for you?

Try to see all the positions as a good thing - they recommend you move yourself around every 20 minutes rather than get stuck in one place. Perhaps you and jailbait could get creative - Position of the Fortnight style!

As for the family thing - you are going to have the three most important people in the room: You, Jailbait and your baby. (and the MW of course). You don't need anyone else at the birth and once that's done, as pony said, you'll be able to lie in your own bed and stare into your little boy's eyes and you won't want anyone to get in the way of that.

Hope it's just a blip and you feel better soon

Thank you everyone, I'll be OK - just having a wobbly - there will be more, I'm sure.

Just back from the cinema to see From Paris With Love which required no brainpower, but I needed to get out for a couple of hours so it did the trick.

pony I get where you're coming from, I wouldn't want that either, flat on back waiting for suction I mean. Actually I think it was the forceps pic which set me off...

cossie I said today I wanted to change my mind. Bit bloody late now as I'm massive today, the little bugger's been kicking all day and I'm now at the stage where when I'm tired I need to be hauled from my seat haha.

curly Yes, I need to get my head around all the stuff and hypnotherapy was the direction I wanted to take. All your suggestions are good and correct though. I need to man up and put on my big girl pants - how's that for a mixed metaphor?

cas is wise ref labour.

Read, read and read more. Find self-help books. Go to classes if you feel it would help. Remove the mystery. I'm sure we are petrified because other bitches women can't help but share their horror stories. I've heard nothing but from other mothers and frankl I've got to that stage now where I tell them not to bother. It will be whatever it is.

But I have read shedloads and now find myself in no small way looking forward to it. We can stand anything on a temporary basis, and one thing is absolutely certain - it does not last forever. I just think about people who have chronic pain all their lives, pain they can do nothign about. This isn't that. You'll be fine.

And as for child-rearing, the good thing is that there are no rules. People will tell you there are rules, but ther aren't. As long as you are not neglectful then just do it your way. Everything will be ok.

OK Ski, sit down and stop hyperventilating. As my friend once said to me - imagine it's a foal. Make sure he has access to milk, and wrap him up a bit if he's cold, and everything else just sorts itself out along the way. Hell, you can even push babies round the yard in a wheelbarrow! As for the bit where the baby actually comes out - well, it's no trouble at all. DD tells me mine is going to be coming out of my belly button . Whichever way round they come out it stings a bit, but it's not an impossible thing to achieve. Noone can tell you how labour is going to be, as it is different for everyone. But DON'T PANIC! and go with the flow and I can promise you the baby will come out in the end You can do it.

As for the cyberstalking thing - wtf is that all about? You may send me texts, so long as you don't pretend to be a weird bloke from Cheshire trying to come and get my horse without actually paying for it. (He rang again on Friday and told me he was in his lorry near where I live but didn't have my exact address and would like to come and collect the horse! I didn't even realise I had agreed to sell him to him. I told his sorry, but big horse is sols to someone else (he's not, but I wasn't selling him to no freaky bloke!))

PS You think 4 days in a caravan with my mother will be bad? My best friend is in the tent next door, and she has worked out her fertile week to be about then . I'm praying she's not a vocal type! Otherwise my mother's snoring will be music to my ears.

Again, thank you everyone. I think I just had a super surge of hormones yesterday which culminated in my hurling again this morning. Cheers Julesbert. 24 weeks and still puking? Job's a goodun.

pandora I wasn't really stalking you, I was stalking your boy because I wanted to know if they'd really put a picture of his swollen willy there... it's not online if that makes you feel better. n.b., do not google swollen horse's cock. Did you do a natural birth last time btw? Btw, oh holy jaysus in respect to your fertile friend. You can't even drink yourself in to oblivion!

I know I can do this labour thing, I won't be attempting to do anything which hasn't already been done on this earth once or twice before. Furthermore, I'm no wee slip of a thing and I'm hoping that for once in my life my childbirthing hips will come in to their own. Btw, am very much liking "stings a bit". I'm thinking like a wasp sting? Hurts really badly for about 10 seconds then it's over?

Where is cheggers? Is it this friday or next friday she's getting the sunroof opened?

Ski you are welcome to send me weird texts whenever you want Horse's willy is now back to normal, thankfully, and so far (touch wood) he has not managed to acquire any new lumps, bumps, bruises or bangs this weekend even though he spent a day jumping ditches with the bloodhounds yesterday (Sigh) He's so good at it, but is rubbish with children on ponies. So he still has to go. Although I would actually trust him with my daughter on the ground more than I would ever trust the pony!

Also Ski I wouldn't pry too much into my childbirthing credentials. I had a 42 hour labour with DD in completely the wrong position - all without any chemical pain relief (I did have a TENS machine and did a lot of visualizing, plus OH had found an acupressure point on my big toe which surprisingly really worked!) Then all hell broke loose and there was a lot of, ahem, intervention culminating in a bit of a caesarean. So no natural childbirth for me that time round.

Clearly it either didn't affect me too much though, or it could be that my DD is so gorgeous I am ready to go through that little bit of hell again for another one, or maybe it's just that I am menkul beyond belief to be doing it again Who knows? But trust me - don't ask about DD's birth again till yours is out!

Trust me on this - either your body will work wonders to get the baby out or oyour mind will work wonders to make whatever happens the best thing to happen to you. I'm even selling big horse - the previous love of my life - so I can go riding with DD, even though I will obviously be on an inferior beast!

pandy - "bit" of a caesarian? half and half?

ski you are a wonderfully grounded sensible lady, you will breeze through it and cope admirably with everything. I have no doubt.

caspy I tried the lemon drizzle cake - I am not the domestic goddess you are, mine was not that great - I did use a too-large tin and didn't stab the cake enough so the syrup only went down a bit though. Will possibly attempt again another time though. Seemed to be too many poppy seeds too. TSF liked it though. Maybe I'll like it tonight when my expectations are less high....!

'Morning all. Just dropping by to bring these .

And to let you know that whatever the hell that mid-cycle spotting was, it sure weren't the fabled implantation bleed, as I am in the full throes of the droid.

Tant pis! Onward to April, and its sweet showers getting rid of that wretched March business (and don't quite Eliot back at me, bitches).

I'll carry on lurking with goodwill of course. Byeeeeeeee!!

keep trying vag - is worth it! oh, and yes, twatty Oliver does use too many poppy seed - you can probably half it. Also, we lift any drizzle that has reached the plate below and pour it back over again, just to get the full lemony deliciousness. I recently made a disasterous carrot cake thanks to using the wrong tin. Who'd'a thunk it would make such a difference?

Been to see rheumatologist today. I've to stay on the reduced dose of steroids and take immediate action whenever threatened by one of the following which could cause a flare-up:

Cold
Stress
Infection

He wants to see me in three months' time...

MW on Weds (yes, I am skiving a lot this week)

ski glad you are over the worst of the wobble.

Just took ages to catch up on this fred... especially as my brain isn't what it used to be (I set the table with four forks last ngiht, instead of 2 knives and 2 forks ...)

pandy Chorizo (and other similar meats) is allowed - v. amused at tit explosion in pub... I was trying some new bras on on sat and one of them was a nursing one - with magnetic things wot hold it up which given the size of my comedy tits, kept popping undone

ski my horsie is going on trial this week - for 2 weeks, he went to a rally on Sat and was a superstar - so think it will all be ok Sorry you had meltdown tho - expect we will all go through that tho and one of my mates says she reckons your hormones sort you out as the birth gets nearer cos it all seems more doable as you get closer to it. am clinging to that.

ribbons... yas cossie that is what am imagining

casps poor you with the doggie running off - is terrifying innit. Mine did same when he was going through a v. naughty adolescent phase and I remember how horrid it was. Cool to see the baybee kickings tho!

Was it ski wot mentioned babies jumping? Cos I forgot to say that mine did that when my stomach rumbled really loudly one evening - think it woke it up and did v. violent jump

I haven't got much news... I had day in spa on Friday which was lovely - then weekend of house hunting etc...

Aaah, just have fab IM visit. She went through my notes from last time with me and is absolutley positive there is a strong likelihood that while baby won't be coming out of my belly button as DD believes, it also won't be coming out of the 'tummy zip' like DD did.

And yes, VAG it was just a bit of a caesaean. In all there was 2 days of labour and 5 days of hospital recovery, but the caesarean bit was only about 3 hours of that. So just a bit That's my answer and I'm sticking to it!

Hi peshes lurking thisweek from iPhone only as fecking t'internet is down. Pain in the jacksy I can tell you.

Ski I think is a miracle you are only having wobbles now, but everyone is right... You can and will do this and what's more hopefully look back as best fing ever. How many weeksare u now?

Curly poor poor poor u with your doggy escape artist. I would seriouslyfreak outif mini moo ran offski. Especially as seriuosky dangerous rds roundhere. He is learning to sit at kerb though so hopefully hewould be ok if he ran off, but the otherday he decided to poo half way cross the rd so then again...

We are totally knCkered as he is going backwards and nowwaking us from his crate in kitchen 3 times a night... Mainly my fault as he knows mummy brings him to bed to sleep at 6am so why not earlier? Mr moo has relented and he will be withus from tonight. Mad maybe, sleepdeprived definitely.

Ms still fecking annoying as hell but praying 3 more weeks and over with once and for all.

Silver wot did u decide in end re scan?

Sozfor shite spelling and space bar use.

I am seriously tired. I am thinking of taking tomorrow off sick just to sleep. AIBU?

YANBU cokie

Do. IT.

feeble yo!

am still here lurking about. bit miffed as official start date of maternity leave coincided with me being absolutely useless, knackered and wiped out.

have not managed much else than lying on sofas or lounging in the bath.

when's this fabled nesting malarky sposed to kick in? really can't see that happening lol

had another little episode in the hossy last week as it looks like the infection wasn't completely gone from my kidneys. more antibiotics and painkillers sorted it out. poor little things. they've had a right skinful in the past month

and i still don't have a hospital bag packed after 2 visits. you'd think i'd learn eh?

anyway not caught up properly yet - but hope all your preggo ails are bearable

ski i think you said you weren't going to bother, but get yourself to an ante-natal class if you can. will chill you the fuck out about the whole birth thing.

despite thinking i'd always just go for the drugs, i came out of my birth classes more disappointed that i'd not be able to have a crack at doing it properly. just made it all seem doable.

also half the class have now popped their sprogs and are all OK!! see nuffin to worry about