The PESH Deli - The drinks might be virginal, but that's about all...

[CurlyCasper]

Come in, come in to the new haven for diffed BESHies. I think a group effort is needed here (and I'm being a lazy preggo), so please add to the deli whatever you crave/love/can stomach.

Nominations are also open for sexy fathers we can hijack to serve our mouldy cheese and cured ham

And the best mocktail recipe wins...well, bugger all to be honest

You feed your dogs? I just let mine lick the pavements. She's very good at it. maybe she'll put on some weight when the baby comes.

Post-partum meeting - yup, I can do London or Leeds as long as we are taking other halves. I think the friends in Leeds have a bigger house to take over crash in.

I was just saying to cunty this morning that I fear my expensive Dior lotion (97% parabens - bought 3 years ago at such an expense I couldn't bring myself to use it for years) is exacerbating the situation. I'm not at the office tomorrow so I was thinking olive oil and no make-up would help. Can't get E45 over here but there must be something similar.

I bought some L'Oreal foundation earlier this week actually - I knew what I was doing... but it was just so damned good. Please to make the little bunnies stop crying at me?

iggy It's kind of funny really because big dog is not a fan of uncooked meat/fish - she tends to cry and says things like "b-b-b-but it's raaaw - you treat me like I'm a doggg". Little dog is in her element.

cas I feed my dog better than I feed myself

ski my dog was put on a raw diet aged 14 weeks... and he is still sometimes a bit thick about it... I haz heard little dogs are better at it!

Having spent her formative years on the streets, my darling rescue can eat sweets, chips, sandwiches, icecream, poo, chocolate, dead birds, burgers, sick, curries and so on off the ground and have no trouble whatsoever. Give her a little bit of gravy/nice meat and it's belly hell.

She's a chav. Quality just doesn't do it for her. So, she has dried food and leftovers - all the more desirable if they've been scraped off the floor.

And lots of carrots, cause despite it all, she just LOVES them.

Is funny how dogs love carrots innit - lots of them also eat apple as a treat. Mine used to eat carrots when he was younger, but he refuses them now..

My dog will refuse a chip / crisp / anything dropped on floor - he doesn't do carbs at all... unless it is mashed sweet potato.

Anyway - I will not be boring about dog food

Back to babies - how is everyone feeling/ looking? Anyone got a bump yet? Am guessing pone and cheggers have - and prob cunty too? I just look a bit fat...

My dog loves carrots. And me . But I mean, he really does love carrots. crunch. He's a stray, too, cas but he'd not have survived long out there . He's now on a salmon and potato diet...

I have a small bump and a very wide waist. I look very fat.

Oh and a wiggly baby

I'm fat AND spotty - in your face rots!

ski I'm always spotty - eets me 'ormones. So I didn't even bovver mentioning that. Hence Love Lettuce.

Confession - I have, in my house, L'Oreal shampoo and conditioner (Kerastase) because despite extensive searching and testing I CANNOT find anything wot is ok to use every day without my hair dropping out/looking like worzel gummidge. Any suggestions gratefully received. I have to wash it every day or it looks really greasy but goes really dry at the ends (not a surprise). Shoulder length, very fine, straight, lank. Pweeze to help. OMG I'm sounding like a guuurl.

So I might make out like I'm a holier than thou eco-warrior but I have that AND blueberries. So it's all a front.

But I do grow my own carrots (n stuff).

carrots your eco/ethical guise is slipping well today (you are human! )

when it comes to hair, mine is such a nightmare I do not read labels. I just get what works.

I have a small bump with a ring of fat adding another contour to it. 'Tis interesting.

Bump photographed again last night.

casper well I didn't want to sound like a complete freak econut holierthanthouprat perfect person.

In all serious folks, I (probably obviously) spend a lot of my brain effort trying to work out what impact I'm having and how to reduce it. I don't think I'm being (bigheaded?) to say that I probably do a lot more than many and not nearly as much as some but while I may evangelise about certain things (often for the hell of it (now there's a shock!)) I don't make judgements or (I dunno the right phrase) look down on people who don't chose this things I do. If I say I am, I'm joking.

That's quite an awkward way of saying what I'm trying to say.

Basically my job (which I do because of my passion for it) is to offer products which are more gentle on the planet or support people I believe should be supported. Often those two desires are diametrically opposed to one another.

My life is therefore filled with ethical dilemmas which I find really interesting. I love it when people choose a more ethical product/decision/lifestyle but I do not think that people who do not agree with me are bad people. Obviously that would be stupid.

As I said, I'm being a bit awkward here but I'm not that good at this really trying to say what I mean thing. Hope it makes sense.

I also make many, many choices which are absolutely un-eco. I do beat myself up about them but I don't stop doing them, so, for instance, what right do I have to say anyone else is right or wrong with their choices?

Gods that sounds awful

rots I think you'ree wearing my hair and although I've not used Kerastase since I was a teen I remember fondly the compliments I received... actually I always got on very well with Tesco's own orange one for normal hair - no doubt that's long been de-commissioned. I'm currently using L'Oreal Elvive for coloured hair. It was on special offer. Half price. My favourite label is in fact 50% off!

Bizarrely my belt has been 4 notches tighter today than it has for weeks. Wtf?

rots I love paraben-free type stuff. Ethics and sense say yes, purse says no.

Planet-wise? I'm not a consumer of plastic coated shite and I replace things when completely kaput. e.g., I am the last person in the western world under the age of 85 who has a non-flatscreen TV. In fact I inherited it from a friend who moved back to the US 7 years ago - I gave me 14" portable to a student. My old washing machine was inherited from someone's grandma and was older than I!

Have been scanned today! All is well. Little baby has arms and legs and everything. We now know what we're having... but too scared to tell as don't want any RL people finding out. Very excited now.

ooh Pony well done on NewFoal!

Hmm, well contrary to popular belief we are actually having a human baby this time rather than an equine one.

Now what's with all the talk about dogs? Some of us feel left out you know. It's nearly as bad as people who go on about ponieez all the time!

Berries - I love blueberries but don't buy them anymore. We have an abundance of raspberries in the summer though. Not that we grow them ourselves - there seems to be competitive raspberry growing in the village and we get offered them constantly. Really funny as we have deduced there is a deep schism between families in the village which goes back several generations. No idea of the details but we've been told more than once "You'll never get all the snouts around the same trough here." Fantastic mystery, but the upshot is, we're friends with everyone so get offered raspberries from both sides. Couldn't possibly say which are better of course.

How to eat a croissant:
-put in [gasp] microwave for 5 seconds
-cut open and insert a thin layer of Bonne Maman strawberry jam (MUST be Bonne Maman, MUST be strawberry)
-eat.

A question.

Will I need to buy a microwave?

I don't haz one.... never needed it before... I won't need one will I? Am I being nuts to even ask this question

iggy I don't think so, well at least not unless you need to eat croissants my way. The correct way to heat up a bottle is to boil kettle, pour hot water into mug or bowl, sit bottle in water until it is warm enough.

Which makes me think... who is planning to go to ante natal classes?

ok... I was more thinking for heating/ defrosting food... so quite far in advance

I dunno - I worry about really stupid things sometimes...

I put croissants in the oven for a bit - but if I had a microwave - I would use it instead. And BTW it must be APRICOT jam

Jam? It's butter you ladies need. SALTY cold butter. Sliced.

Btw, ponymum your views on not sharing your foal's sex are repulsive.

I don't need to go to ante-natal classes because I'm not "giving birth" or whatever it is you call it.

ski please see previous thought on tha evil butter

iggs Well yeah I suppose I now use the microwave for defrosting / heating fodder for the foal. But theoretically you are also suppose to heat that by the hot water method too as apparently anyone thick enough to have a baby is too thick to stir food properly to get rid of hot spots when it comes out of the microwave. (btw croissants in oven are much better, I am just impatient and greedy and miserly with my electricity bill.)

ski Well let's just say that my preconceptions about this gender were somewhat confirmed today when the scan appeared to clearly show a baby blatantly sticking his/her middle finger out at me!

Congrats on the scan pony. Are you telling existing foal what it is?

I'm going to do the local free ante-natal classes. Will prob join NCT for social stuff, but course costs too much, and a lot is irrelevant ref birth choices etc. Planning to start pre-natal yoga, but just realised that first lesson clashes with me being at a conference on London in Feb. Oops. I expect I'll probably have to drop out anyway if SPD is confirmed - can't imaging wide leg stretches are a good idea.

we have a fandangled combi oven/grill/microwave contraption that only ever gets used as a mwave. Thank god we didn't pay for it.

Am tonight celebrating pay rise with pizza delivery. It is my craving

pone soz, am total nobber. Meant to say congrats on scan!