on the 1st day of christmas my true love sent to me a moosy and a baby

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new thread ladies

Hey everyone

Just thought Id join in as have just caught up. DH and DS have been out all morning I have a stinking cold though

I had staples too CANT - yeah they were really not as bad as they sound.

Diege - I had a uterine tear from labouring for so long, they found them when they did the C section and thats why it took so long to sew me back up (or staple me back up) as they had to treat the tears first.

FWIW I am def having a Elective C section next time. While I was in hosp for 5 days the electives patients were in and out like it was a minor op or something. They hadnt had 5 days of labour like me with no sleep and barely any food. They all seemed so WELL. My sister is having an elective this April and I am so glad as me and my other sister both had issues with heads fitting through pelvises!!I want an elective over EMCS so therefore am not risking an EMCS. I have no fear about it whatsover.

Re ttc Im not sure anymore!! Earliest will probably be Sept 2010 if I dont get my doctorate but I want to get a house first which will require a job. (prices round here are crazy, but we are slowly building equity on our flat)Latest will be if I do get the doctorate somewhere around 2012/2013. eeek thats seems like so long

After having minor concerns about the doctorate I am starting to feel postive about doing it again which is good. Just wish they would hurry up and let me know if I have an interview or not!! Interviews are in March and by 26th March is when actual places are confirmed. Eeek!

was the picture true to male form or just type? maybe you could bag yourself an artistic, toyboy, bit on the side?

TMI warning ahead- do not read if eating
I think if i'd been made aware of needing more stitches from the begining i'd have been better about it, and the G&A was horrific, affected me for the next few hours after stopping it. But i needed it at the time- it felt like my lifeline- the only thing that'd get me throguh the pain- kinda how i imagine some women must feel once they ahve a bit when in labour really!! haven't had and pain relief for any of my labours... but had G&A for the stitches- how bad is that!! haha!! And my tear was the whole of the vaginal wall had burst open from cervix to the outer lip... and one of my labia had torn so badly that it kinda now hangs at one end rather than attatched to where it's supposed to... sorry, i did warn you

Right I AM goin to get off here for a bit!!

sorry- couldn't just run- Hi Gruff!! I think it would have been easier to go for an ELCS if i'd not had 2 natural births beforehand. I suppose it's one of those things for you where you know no different, and the risks around a VBAC for you is hightened becasue you've never even had a VB to begin with so dont know what to expect... and as you say with your DSis's having problems you're not sure about if you'd be able to yourself... IYGWIM??

Yes CANT I think I just don't want to go down that road again and end up with the same situation as I beleive all GC's feeding complication/colic/reflux etc was down to the birth so I'd like to think I would be giving him a better start this way. I also quite like the idea of knowing when things were going to happen and being able to plan for who was going to look after GC

*believe rather

Oooof that sounds painful CANT! Re: drawing, just a smiley face, with a little hand stretched out, with a bubble 'more marks please' .
GRUFF, I think I would be the same if I hadn't had natural births first. I know many people find c-section recovery a doddle, but not me! Good that you are happy about your decision - I think problems lie when people think they are being forced into one position or another, and then are left feeling let down and doubtful if the right decision was made.
Well ds has just crawled - backwards He's well pleased with himself and has been giggling and doing repeat shows for me.

LOL at drawing Diege

I have GC back now. Hes very demanding at the mo, if Im not looking at him he keeps saying "mama, mama" until i do does get quite wearing though!

he is also walking around with his push along cart thing - very cute!

LOL at crawling backwards Diege Great stuff!

Yeah, part of me would still like to try the VBAC but I just think I would be better off not going there. Def would feel different if had already had normal delivery. Maybe I'll see how my sisters elective goes and then make my mind up

GC is intent on getting something he shouldn't so better go and sort it out. hes after the nappy bags yet again...

hi everyone, all this talk about TTC is making me want another. but its just not possible. had a lazy day here as DS was sick in the night, but hes been fine through the day.
wow for DS crawling DIEGE.

Hi GRUFF! GC does sound very cute with his little cart. Lol at nappy bags - had that with the dds, though ds seems more intent on ripping up any sort of paper.
Hi MMM, sorry for another bad night with ds - must be really draining. Fingers crossed he's on the mend.
Right tea time for ds!

yep, along with his dad being a complete and utter useless father. found out today that he would rather take his gfs little sister out than see his own son. i mean he doesnt even take his son out. so hes wound me up the fact he doesnt seem to care about his son. in all the year DS has been born his dad has took him out once that i know of, and then the rest of the time he has him, hes just in with his mum and dad, so hes not having time alone with him.

oh and it gets me down how DS didnt ask to be here, but hes the one whos suffering from it s to not seeing his dad, but he knows who he is as whenever he sees him he lights up, and the past two nights hes the only one hes wanted, been constant shouts of DaDa in between cries, and moans. and i feel awful that i cant get him who he wants.

Evening- have just preped tea, fish pie.... mmmmm yummy- just hope it's as good as my 'tastebuds' think!! haven't done much different to normal just added some salmon in too... hopefully will be super scrummy and fill me up!!

Gruff- i know exactly what you mean about liking to know when things would happen, though after DD2's pregnancy i dont think i'll be calm about 'when' baby would arrive next time round. So even if i did go for an ELCS it may not even work out that way either...

Diege- at drawing... you not tempted by the student desperate for more marks??? haha!! Yeah it was painful, and has left me feeling a bit 'deformed' down there IYGWIM... however, DH has never mentioned anything about it, and i'm not out to impress anyone else with my lady-bits!!

Also very of J's crawling, even if it is backwards... R doesn't even dare move her hands or knee's, when i put her down her knee's go under her body and hands and arms straight out, she looks like she's just gonna go but she doesn't.

Actually, that reminds me, yesterday DD had her cons app... didn't go as well as planned. Although she's sitting unaided and weaned onto finger foods, they are a little concerned about her development. They said it's not 'worrying' as she's only just behind the guidelines for what she should be doing for the average 9.5mo (which is what she'd be if born full term)... but he wanted to hear she's crawling and that she can hold herself up at furniture, which she will lean against furniture and will support her own weight, but wont hold on or pull herself up etc also they were bothered that she isn't rolling and that she spends little time on her front. Were also bothered by the fact that she doesn't make so much noise, and isn't saying any dada/mama sounds yet.... Made me feel really deflated as i thought it was gonna be positive with her sitting and being weaned. Now i'm worried and she's back in 4mths when they want to see her crawling and making more noise, hopefully cruising too. he also made noises about her weight and how she's slimmer so will be weaker and delayed in development... Thats why I was awake so early... worrying about what might be wrong...

MMM, sorry to say this but M's Dad sounds like he needs a slap with a fish. I know it takes 2 to tango etc but he needs to sort himself out.

Cant, sorry about R's cons appointment. If it helps at all my friends DD was born on the 28th Nov 2008 and she doesn't move at all. She occasionally shuffles about on her bum. But she has never crawled or pulled herself up. We've all decided on the dec 08 thread that she is planning her future as a lady of leisure and just wants to be carried around.

has anyone said anything about your friends DD? was she born prem or full term?

She was about a week early as she was born by elective CS. The HV aren't bothered as she is putting on weight. They have said if she gets to 2 and she still isn't walking then they will do something about it.

I wish they were more relaxed about DD2!!

DS2 didn't start crawling until he was 9.5 months anyway and he was over twice the size of R when he was born so she might just be a late crawler. Plus some babies never ever crawl.

i know KAYZ ye, its jus he needs to step upto the mark and do father son things with him. ive had to, and he shud have done. but just doesnt seem bothered.

Could you speak to his parents about it? Maybe they can talk some sense into him?

Cant, I was just talking to my friend whose DD1 arrived 9 weeks early. Her DD1 crawled on her 1st birthday and walked at 19 months. She was told that they are usually behind until about 2 years. She is now a healthy 5yo and you wouldn't know that she was prem.

Have tried to catch up

I see lot's of ttc talk... Diege you may as well, 5 is no different to 4 really lol at the marking. Naughty boy!!

NJ i think your next pregnancy will be fine. The same complications don't always follow. What did dh say about it all?

Cant you sound very sensible. A summer baby is lovely. I have 2! My fave time of year for a baby i think. May was quite nice too.
When you are HUGE you can wear flip flops

Kay what happened with your Dad?

Maxxy i had no idea you were going it alone Babies always Dada first. It means nowt. I am sure it is you he wants

Gruff what a scary section you had. Lucky they found those tears

I had a section with the dts first then a 3rd degree tear with dd 19mths later. The section was terrible because they were 11 weeks early and in scbu. I had to get up and move to se them. Then i was home within 3 days and driving in just under 2 weeks so i could get in to hospital to see them. It was a long drive and i couldn't rely on others to take me. I think that made it worse.

The 3rd degree tear was also pretty awful. But then again i had 19mth old dts to look after and no help (ex p was useless at the time) so that made it worse.

I would pick VB over section any day but i have not really had any delivery that warranted me needing a section. Well not as far as i am concerned. The midwives would say different i expect.

Ds4 was a shoulder dystocia and i worried about ds5 beong the same. He wasn't and dd2 although bigger (9lb 5) and needing a 'tug' to come out was not stuck.

Who knows if i will ever do it again. Dh is off on deployment in August till March. I have no desire to be pregnant while he is away. Noooooo way! Maybe when he comes back

Must change the second nappy of the morning. Have already wiped a bottom too. Non stop in this household...

LG&T, not sure what is going on really. He was given some drops to put in his eye. They said they could see something but he has to go back in 2 weeks.

I want a summer baby too. Ds1 is March and DS2 is December so a summer baby would be perfect.

Morning! KAYZ that sounds positive about your dad. If thery're the drops I think they are, any nasties would have shown up, esp with the consultant doing it.
MMM, that's a good suggestion of Kayz about speaking to your ex's parent. Are you on good terms? That might be half the battle if you can get them on side. Realise it shouldn't be a battle, and it shouldn't be you stressing, and really hope ds's dad starts behaving like a reasonable human being . As LG&T says, they always say 'dada' first.
LG&T, is 5 really not that more hard work than 4? How did you cope with The Comments? I just know what people would say! (not that this is a basis on which to make life choices).
NAT, how did The Talk go last night?
Hi CANT, I can't believe they are concerned about dd - as others have said I'm sure the 'delay' is expected until 24 mths? FWIW 2 of my 4 never crawled, and dd1 didn't walk until 25 months (and she wasn't prem).
Right, I need another overnight pass please.Off to Cardiff on the train at midday, so not back till Monday pm. Hopefully it will give me a chance to get more papers marked and also to get some sleep (VERY bad night last night, 3 out of 4 up and 'creating').

i cant really talk to his parents about this, as when i tried to yesterday his mum was just making excuses for him, and being on his side, so i felt like i was getting nowere. all the other times they have been supportive. and ye we are close and can speak and see each other just me his mum and DS. but she seemed to back him up yesterday. so i gave up. its also the talking to me like s**t when hes with his mates and gf that annoys me too, as when hes on his own hes ok, and doesnt show off. and then when hes round he talks like nothins been said bad on his behalf. DS is going to his dads today despite me wanting to have him home so he could see my parents as theyve been away for a week and half. but that caused more trouble, and he was sayin its sunday we have him not any other day, when if they wanted to change days for a reason which cant be helped id let them, like i have in the past.
but ohwel.
had a much better night from DS no sick and no wakings think were back to normal health.

Kay that does sound good. Let's hope it is a blip and something that sorts itself out. Still worrying though.

Diege i am at your night of sleep. Honestly it made no difference to anything when i had ds4. We already had a bigger car/house and having had 3 boys up till that point i had no end of clothes too. He was very good. He slotted in nicely to the chaos

It has been #6 that has thrown me. He is a challenge Broken all the parenting rules and defied me at every opportunity. If he had started being so awful before i had dd2 then i am pretty sure she wouldn't be here.

Luckily she is a little angel. Very sweet and gets showered with attention as she is the girl. The twins fight over her.

I am secretly hoping i go through the baby longing and come out the other side before we get to a ttc point again. I just can't face another pregnancy.

I am really really pissed off with DS1. I've just given him a bath and as bloody usual he is screaming the place down about his hair. Well I have had enough and I am taking him to get it all cut off on Friday. I am mad