Becoming bulgy! June-oh what I mean? (June part 2)

[madamefreckle]

Hello everyone! Welcome to the second thread! Hope you are happy enough that I've gone ahead with this title! If not, I won't be mortally offended if you ditch it and start again!

Here is the list - hope it is more or less up-to-date. Apologies if you're missing, please add yourself on. Pogue - we don't have you on here. Scared - are you still around? Perhaps you've moved to the May thread. Let us know how you're doing.

27th-3rd - ScaredofEverything, 33, #2
30/05 GoodName, 31, #1
1st - Washersaurus , 33, #3
1st - ELM, 29, #2
1st - bambino02, 23, #2
1st - mampam, 29 #3
1st - whenwillisleepagain, 42 #2
2nd - scrappydappydoo, #3
2nd - MrsGravy, 33, #3
3rd - nickytwotimes, 35, #2
3rd - RnB, 31, #3
3rd - Tafftaff, 36, #2
4th - minimoonumbertwo, 33, #2
4th - madamefreckle, 33, #2
4th - sunshiney, 34, #2
5th - greensnail, 27, #2
5th - Dizzymac, 35 No.3
6th - AlwaysHopefull, 35, #2
6th - zumm, 37, #1
7th - LittleRobbo, 34, #3
7th - MrsC09, #1
7th - mumandlovingit, 28 #4
8th - Tobermory, #2
8th- Saucepanman, 31, #4
9th - Woofie, 33, #2
10th - charlottew 32, #1
10th - fillybuster 35, #3
10th - upsydaisysexstylist #3
11th - PorridgeBrain, 34, no. 2
12th - UnrequitedSkink, 33, no. 2
12th - Rangemaster 29, #3
11th - Fabi76, #1
13th - ChairmumMiaow, 29, #2
13th - sobloodystupid, 34, #3
14th - Cadmum, 38, #5
14th ? MrsAlwaysRight, 31 #2
15th - MummyWantsANewBag, #2
15th - Ponymum, 41, # 2
17th - Bluesnowfalcon 28 #1
17th - theperfectbaguette 34 #1
17th - muchchocolate #2
18th - Horton 40 #2
19th - Ladyemmalou83, 26 #1
19th - Georgee 37 No 1
21st - Gizmo, 39, #3
22nd - GinaFB, #1
23rd - Sunshineday 39 #5
23rd - GibberingGinger 33 #2
23rd? - Spudthescarecrow #3
24th - imkeepingmum, #1
25th - Ilovemyterrier, 38 no1
25th - readysetgo, #1
26th - Celery, 34 #4
28th - CantSleepWontSleep (HappyAccident),
36, no3
29th - MrsDmamee #3
30th - Monthlymayhem, 34, no. 2

Wheredidmyfeetgo- I thought I got everyone in! Damn. I'm due on the 29th . DD was 10 days early but that was because she got into difficulties (but is fine). Your name has reminded me of how I hate not being able to cut my own toe nails. I have a phobia of my big toe being touched. Ugh!

Mummysprog - I at a half packet of TUC biscuits yesterday without even blinking. I don't even look at them usually!

ooh really asda mummysprog? will give it a go!

My name is in preparation of how mahosive I think I'm going to be!
DS1 was 5 weeks early and DS2 was 1 week early.
LOL re big toe phobia!

Hi LaTrucha, I hope your appointment goes well on Thursday. At my 16 week appointment, it took the MW a little bit of time to find the heartbeat and I was starting to get really nervous, but after pushing my tummy (a bit too hard in my opinion) she finally found it. Maybe it's because I'm getting too big... I can't stop eating!

I also need to find a name which is pronounced and written the same in Spanish and English but haven't got far and my list has two names which DH doesn't like. Do you mind sharing your list? I promise that I will not use any name that you choose - I have a feeling I'm having a boy but DH doesn't want to find out though I'm very impatient and would like to know. But he has been such a loving husband lately, that I feel I ought to give in and make him happy.

Our list is
Boys: Nico, Daniel, Marco and Eduardo (some not exact ones there) but there are loads more. Let's see: off the top of my head: Carlos, Ramon, Pablo, Manuel / Emanuel, Pedro.

Our girls list is guided by our DD's name (Sabela) which is unusual in both languages so we felt we had to find one to match. Mireya, Ainoa, Catalina, Alba, Silvia, Beata (although Silvia and Mireya are actually quite common). Others off the top of my head: Clara, Flora, Febe, Iris, Anabel, Isabel, Linda, Marisol, Rosa, Carmen.

I'll have a trawl through my Spanish name book if there's no inspiration there.

LaTrucha your name list is beautiful,i love them all,Carmen is my fave though,gorgeous.

Welcome mummysprog i too am totally paranoid since being pg,and zero tolerance levels,with adults only though,i'm fine with the dc's thank goodness! We have the same due date Halfway mark next week yay!

I have 20 wk scan on 21st and we are definately going to find out,havent with the other 2,so i am nervous about it but very excited

I havent really felt any definate movements yet,midwife says its because of where my placenta is?? I'm trying not to get concerned

Wheredidmyfeetgo lol at mahosive! My belly is already providing an unwanted platform for my boobs,very attractive,not!

Thanks LittleRobbo. I felt a little after I posted it because I haven't told anyone yet and wasn't planning to. God I'm useless at keeping secrets.

Don't tell anyone I know, will you . (And if you who know who you are are there - shhhh!)

My SIL hasn't felt any movements yet and she's due 4th April! Everything is fine though. She gets scanned every 4 weeks and baby os certainly moving then!

HI.
haven't posted on thread since before Christmas.

Tbh, I am really struggling with being pg. Fortunatley the hyperemesis is well adn truly gone, but I am DREADING having this baby. Not giving birth (though I do not look forward to it!) but actually caring for the baby.

I had a hellish time with ds for the first year. I do not think I can cope with caring for a baby again and it will be even worse this time as I have a toddler to care for too.

I think it was a mistake, though I would of course be devastated if anything happened to this one. ANd I do not wish to upset anyone who has suffered miscarraiges, etc.

Dh is so happy to be having another kid. He knows how I feel, but I can't keep banging on.

Friends say glib things like I will feel differently when it is born, but I know from ds that is not the case.

I do not want to have to look after a baby again. I wish I could give birth to a toddler (under sedation!)

Nicky - we had a terrible time with my dd for much of the first year too (milk intolerance undiagnosed until 16 weeks which caused, amongst other things, round the clock screaming, and then still left with silent reflux, and solid food refusal, and an obsession with breastfeeding (her not me!) etc etc), and it nearly put us (dh in particular, even though he was abroad for 5 days out of 7 ) off having another. We had ds, and although he wouldn't be put down day or night for the first 13 weeks, he was sooooo much easier than dd (and we picked up on the milk intolerance at 3 weeks this time). In fact the first year with him was easier than the second has been so far, which definitely wasn't the case with dd. So please don't despair. What made the first year so hard for you last time?

Hi and welcome mummysprog I had major salty cravings early on - all hideously unhealthy things like bacon, cheese, crisps... But now the chocolate cravings have kicked in, so that's one crank method of gender prediction scuppered!

I'm definitely going to find out the sex at my scan next week. I did with ds, which was the right decision for me, since (though it's not very pc to say) I did sort of want a girl. Finding out meant i was totally used to the idea of having a boy. And of course, he's so fab that this time i genuinely don't mind, but as he's nearly 4, v involved in the pregancy and convinced he's having a brother, I'd like to give him time to get used to the idea either way. He's coming to the scan with us next wed

saucepanman most of my movement is very low down too - don't think it's a problem?

Oh dear nickytwotimes. Do you think it's possible you could be suffering from depression? A close friend did during her 2nd pregnancy, all relating to how she felt she was going to cope. I can only imagine you must feel terrible - such mixed feelings. Do you have family close by to help support you?
Also remember, this baby might be a whole lot easier than your DS. And you will be more experienced to deal with it all second time around. I'm sure your friends don't intend to be glib at all.
My sister gave birth to her first DC in August, and from the moment she knew she was PG, was dreading the whole thing. In tears all the time. After DS was born, much the same for about 2 months. Then slowly the fog lifted and she gained confidence, baby startng sleeping through and now she is (almost) normal again.

Re. finding out the sex, we didn't with DD1 and we won't be with the twins. It's just too exciting finding out on the day! I have lots of friends/family with clothes for both sexes.
LaTrucha your name list is just gorgeous. I particularly like Nico and Flora.
Loving Spanish names!
It's so, so difficult choosing a name. I prefer old-fashioned and slightly unusual names. Our DD1 is called Cecily Plum.

Oh a very good friend of mine had a Cecily last year MM. Hers was the first I had come across, and now yours too!

Lovely names latrucha - fwiw, i really like Nico and Silvia.

nicky - I also had a pretty dreadful time with ds in the early months - he was extremely unsettled, constantly hungry and not overly fond of sleep. But 4 years on it seems like a distant memory. Not kidding myself that this time round will be easy, but second babies often do settle into a routine more easily i think, because they simply have to fit in with everything else that's going on in the family. Plus we're probably slightly less anxious as parents i guess.

cantsleep Your friend has excellent taste ... I do hope it doesn't become too popular! I remember I was one of about 7 with the same name at secondary school, and my sister also.

Cecily is lovely

Thanks woofie .
P.S. Anyone here a scrabble addict? I love to play on FB if anyone is up for a game?

LittleRobbo I'm amazed by my body's own Nork platform too. It's probably a good job it's there though as I've already gone from a 34D to a 34E- I'm sure they'd be at my knees otherwise!
Nickytwotimes Glad the HMG has passed- poor you. I don't do pregnancy very well either TBH but as this one is probably our last I'm detemind to bloom!
I do keep in mind though that it will be worth it and we'll have a lovely family at the end.
There is only 14 months between DS1 and DS2. The first two weeks after DS2 were the hardest for me. Trying to breastfed (unsuccessfully) and look after a baby/toddler was difficult. After struggling for 2 weeks I gave up trying to get him latched on and just expressed for him insted (which I maintained for 5.5 months) It doubled my work in some ways but at least I could still do things whilst giving DS2 a bottle of EBM or whilst expressing so DS1 was happier.
Why was your time so awfull with DS1?
Have you thought about getting a Doula in as you say you are nooking forward to the birth? Doula would also come for a couple of visits once the baby is here and help you settle and bond. Or maybe a maternity nurse would be useful.
I hope I'm not overstepping the mark making a few suggestions. It's just I realise that it is difficult with little ones. I'm starting my Mat leave 6 weeks before this one is due and I'm hiring a mothers help for those 6 weeks and 2 weeks after as my two DS's (3yrs and 21mths) will both be at home.
Sorry for the long post!

Nickytwotimes: I was just going to have a quick read and not bother to post but I felt compelled to respond to you.

I fear that I will also sound glib but I remember feeling very apprehensive before the arrival of dd1 because I could not even imagine how I could love another child as much as I loved ds1. I was convinced that I would not be able to cope with a two year old and a newborn.

Less than two minutes after she was born all of the apprehension faded. She just slotted in beautifully and ds1 was very proud of being her big brother. I am now a seasoned veteran (as this is number five) but I still wonder how will I manage? How will I ever find time to sleep or when will I ever get to have a bath or even a wee on my own again? My plan is to ask for the help that I should have accepted with the first four.

It sounds as though you felt alone in dealing with a challenging baby for a year. It is a huge blessing that your dh is pleased about the impending arrival and also knows how you feel because he should be willing to do his share of the baby bouncing so that you get the much needed down-time and time to be with your ds1.

More glib consolation but it is entirely possible that this baby will be easygoing and mellow. (Two of our four have been.) Ds2 was perfectly happy to sit on the kitchen floor in his bouncy chair in front of the washing machine while I did the washing up or played with his older siblings. Automatically, this baby will have an entertainment centre in the form of an older sibling. In my experience nobody can elicit the same kind of belly laugh as an older brother/sister. I don't imagine that any of this rambling will have made you feel any better but know that you are not alone. Posting and talking about it might also really help.

Cecily Plum, what a gorgeous name! Don't worry I won't be stealing it as DH would never agree to it but I just think its beautiful!

Nickytwotimes sorry you're feeling so low. Do you know what was so difficult for you about when DS was a baby? It may be different this time, several friends have recently had 2nd babies who have been much, much more easy going than their first. Even if things are the same as last time, you'll be more prepared for it and at least know that things do improve eventually. Also, maybe it will be better with a toddler around too - caring for tiny babies can be very monotonous, and at least having a toddler will force you to get out of the house etc.

Saw midwife this afternoon and heard the heartbeat which was lovely and very reassuring. Looking forward to 20 week scan now, and hospital clinic next week too.

Cecily is lovely.

Nicky - I couldn't want this baby more but I too am dreading the first year. DD didn't sleep for much of hers and it was torture. I can't imagine what it will be like with a toddler, baby and sleep deprivation. I don't think I could even handle a single night feed at the moment!

You will have all what me and a friend of mine call, 'new baby adreneline', where you can pretty much cope with it all for the first three months or so. Your new baby may have settled down by then. Some do!

I do also think a toddler may help a little in the way greensnail said. And lots of second babies do tend to just fit in more because they have to. [overly optimistic emoticon].

Seriously though, I would also give birth to a toddler if I could. Apart from that lovely softy little warm head of a baby, of course.

Greensnail - for heartbeat

Oh Nicky, I hear you....there's a good reason why there's a 4.5 year age gap between my DS1 and DS2. I was so not having another.

Were there specific issues with your first on top of the general hellishness that is babyshock? Are they likely to reoccur? Hopefully this time you will be forewarned and can prepare yourself - maybe some additional support, like a doula or a friends rota, could be useful?

FWIW, even if baby no2 is tricky, my guess is that it will still be less ghastly than no1, because you're not having to learn the ropes...there's less time spent staring at a screaming baby thinking 'what? what the hell do you want?' because a) you can be pretty confident you'll be able to work it out and b) they just have to fit in to the routine of the older one. This might explain why an unscientific straw poll of second babies on mumsnet tends to suggest they are much mellower souls.

Gizmo LOL at the disclaimer.

I totally agreed getting in extra help or friend rota.

Nickytwotimes - I had a horrible time at the beginning with ds and really wished away his baby days. Later, looking back, i really wished that i'd found more positivity in myself early on and tried to enjoy it despite feeling awful and exhausted and like i had lost forever my previous, wonderful, free existence. I am now determined to enjoy baby two as much as I possibly can before he/she grows into a little person. Just don't hesitate to talk to /cry to a trusted doc (or sim) now and/or soon after the birth if you still feel like this.

Thank you everyone for your responses re. finding out sex of baby. I am infamously indecisive and STILL haven't decided what to do. I just know that last time, although I didn't find out beforehand, it wasn't a magic moment finding out when he was born. The surprise was not his gender but the fact that I was alive, baby was fine and my life had just been turned on its head. The gender of the baby was neither here nor there (I remember looking through a fog of gas and air and remarking (slurringly), 'oh, it's a boy' - I felt quite a lack of emotion about it at the time despite the fact that i had secretly harboured a desire to have a girl. It just didn't matter a jot.

Anyway, I may or may not know tomorrow! My favourite outcome would be to ask to find out but for the sonographer (is that right?) to say she can't work it out.

LaTrucha, thanks for sharing your list. The names are beautiful, I like them all!

As this will be my first baby, I don't have any advice about the first year but from my sister's experience, I know that getting help from family (grandparents, etc) made a huge difference for her. Since my family is thousands of miles away, I hope our baby will behave as a second child