Becoming bulgy! June-oh what I mean? (June part 2)

[madamefreckle]

Hello everyone! Welcome to the second thread! Hope you are happy enough that I've gone ahead with this title! If not, I won't be mortally offended if you ditch it and start again!

Here is the list - hope it is more or less up-to-date. Apologies if you're missing, please add yourself on. Pogue - we don't have you on here. Scared - are you still around? Perhaps you've moved to the May thread. Let us know how you're doing.

27th-3rd - ScaredofEverything, 33, #2
30/05 GoodName, 31, #1
1st - Washersaurus , 33, #3
1st - ELM, 29, #2
1st - bambino02, 23, #2
1st - mampam, 29 #3
1st - whenwillisleepagain, 42 #2
2nd - scrappydappydoo, #3
2nd - MrsGravy, 33, #3
3rd - nickytwotimes, 35, #2
3rd - RnB, 31, #3
3rd - Tafftaff, 36, #2
4th - minimoonumbertwo, 33, #2
4th - madamefreckle, 33, #2
4th - sunshiney, 34, #2
5th - greensnail, 27, #2
5th - Dizzymac, 35 No.3
6th - AlwaysHopefull, 35, #2
6th - zumm, 37, #1
7th - LittleRobbo, 34, #3
7th - MrsC09, #1
7th - mumandlovingit, 28 #4
8th - Tobermory, #2
8th- Saucepanman, 31, #4
9th - Woofie, 33, #2
10th - charlottew 32, #1
10th - fillybuster 35, #3
10th - upsydaisysexstylist #3
11th - PorridgeBrain, 34, no. 2
12th - UnrequitedSkink, 33, no. 2
12th - Rangemaster 29, #3
11th - Fabi76, #1
13th - ChairmumMiaow, 29, #2
13th - sobloodystupid, 34, #3
14th - Cadmum, 38, #5
14th ? MrsAlwaysRight, 31 #2
15th - MummyWantsANewBag, #2
15th - Ponymum, 41, # 2
17th - Bluesnowfalcon 28 #1
17th - theperfectbaguette 34 #1
17th - muchchocolate #2
18th - Horton 40 #2
19th - Ladyemmalou83, 26 #1
19th - Georgee 37 No 1
21st - Gizmo, 39, #3
22nd - GinaFB, #1
23rd - Sunshineday 39 #5
23rd - GibberingGinger 33 #2
23rd? - Spudthescarecrow #3
24th - imkeepingmum, #1
25th - Ilovemyterrier, 38 no1
25th - readysetgo, #1
26th - Celery, 34 #4
28th - CantSleepWontSleep (HappyAccident),
36, no3
29th - MrsDmamee #3
30th - Monthlymayhem, 34, no. 2

Hi everyone,
Sorry to hear about the number of you w SPD, not fun at all. I had to work from home loads last time round cos I literally couldn't walk, but the worst bits only lasted a couple of weeks. This time I've got dodgy hips - maybe it's my age .

Just got back from my mw appointment. Cos of the snow, there was a mw stand-in who turned out to be the mw I saw before and after I had dd. Which was a good and bad experience - good, cos it's nice to see a familiar face, and bad, cos she reminded me how useless I'd been last time round . Hey-ho....

We had fun trying to find two heartbeats anyway, for a while she couldn't even find one. Hopefully it was two separate heartbeats we heard, and not just the same one twice.

21 wk scan on 17th Feb - flippin' ages away.

Am up for a London meet-up, will look out for the new thread - late pm/eve best for me (working....).

Aargh, am having a crazy hormonal day which isn't much fun. Managed to get my car stuck in the snow at children's centre car park and needed 2 men to help me get out, which set me off. Went straight home without going in to play as i'd got myself really worked up about getting stuck, and cried all the way home and on and off ever since. Think DD thinks I've gone crazy. She's gone for a nap now, so i've got a bit of peace and quiet to pull myself together.

Hope everyone else is having a better day. Congrats on everyone who is hearing the heartbeat or feeling movement for the first time.

Just back from my midwife appointment. As I don't have my notes yet (am getting them at 20wk scan) the midwife didn't really know what to do with me. Just took my blood pressure, felt my uterus, and tried to find the heartbeats. She found one no problem, the other she wasn't sure if it was the other twin or the first one again. Was reassuring nonetheless. Was getting worried as I've only put on 3 lbs, and am still wearing my normal trousers, and have had a couple of "ooh you're not very big" type comments which was making me nervous. Next appointment 2nd Feb.

Very fortunately we don't need to buy a bigger house - just a bigger car. Am not thinking about an purchases until after the 20 week scan though. Good luck to all you who are moving though.

Sorry to hear you are havin gone of those days greensnail. Have a huge warming mug of tea and a stack of biscuits and a few deep breaths and hopefully things will seem a little better. It's a horribly emotional business being preggers - I really wish my hubby understood this, he's dispairing of me blubbing at all sorts of things

hi all

I'm having a rubbish day, to top off a rubbish weekend. I spent most of it in tears (stupidly) because my hubby took a photo of me and I looked awful in it and it made me feel so terible! I know this is irrational behaviour, and not like me at all, but I wailed for hours! He tried to reassure me but it kind of fell on crazy deaf ears.

Last night, I woke up in the early hours with an excruciating headache one side of my head, going all the way down my face. I have also developed an awful pain right at the bottom of my back/top of backside, that is agony when I sit down. I can't get in the docs till the end of the week and feel a right misery guts. I want to crawl under my desk and sleep forever!

Rant over; thanks for lsitening ladies!!

sorry to hear of all you suffering SPD. Ouch!

Those hormones eh? I was in tears yesterday as I had to go to the supermarket (how silly, was just scared of the snow and ice). DH was very good, gave me a hug and said write me a list and I'll go. However, I needed everything not just a few bits so we all went. Thankfully feeling rational again today

Just got back from my midwife appointment. All was fine so nothing to report and I won't be going back for 12 wks except for my 20 wk scan.

of those of you who haven't put much weight on. I have a huge tum already (only 16 +2) and cannot stop stuffing my face. Right off to the kitchen to see what else I can eat. . . .

oh dear chestnut. Your headache doesn't sound good at all. Have you had some paracetamol? I'm sure you didn't look as awful as you thought in the photo!

Agree with gibbering that the pregnancy hormones really do make life an emotional rollercoaster. I get really tearful for no good reason. Normally with DH. Gibbering I have my 16-week check next week and wondered how on earth they can manage to identify the 2 heartbeats. I feel nervous about this PG simply because there's 2 of them. I have put on 7 pounds though (mainly on my arse)...

greensnail that's horrible getting stuck in the snow. Hope you manage to get a bit of calm whilst your DD has her nap.

I'm at work, was hoping to see my boss to tell him about being PG. He's not made it in due to the weather, so considering telling him over the phone.

Happy Monday to everyone else!

My heart goes out to all those suffering with tearfulitis. It's like getting a whole different personality, isn't it? The only good point about it is that it stops me spending too much time websurfing when at work, as I'm almost bound to find something that sets me off and then my colleagues get all concerned and I feel a total fraud.

Mampam, I hope the SPD doesn't get a grip. I'm not sure you'd find much help from pregnancy yoga, it's something my teacher is very, very cautious about and that tells me that some of the positions, unless highly modified, will exacerbate the problem.

Cadmum/Sunshineday I'm sending levitating placenta vibes in your direction.

Well, DH left to go skiing at 1am on Saturday morning and, after his flight was diverted from Geneva to Turin, finally arrived in Val D'Isere at 1am on Sunday morning. Not the most relaxing start to his holiday, but I'm strangely unmoved by his plight

As usual, his departure takes the handbrake off DS1 and DS2 who spent the weekend merrily testing my boundaries. We got back home yesterday at 5pm after a trip out. The boys were gawping at the TV in the kitchen and I made myself a cup of tea, folded my arms on the table, put my head down...and woke up 45 minutes later! Did feel much better for it, though, am wondering if I can repeat the idea at work.

gizmo I am laughing so much at your description of your 40(+5) winks at the kitchen table - love it!! You are very tolerant letting DH go skiing. I have resigned myself to the fact we won't go skiing again until our youngest are old enough to ski, so about 4 years from now....and that's of course if we can afford to do it with 3 DCs. hmm.

I am so behind on replying, sorry if I miss stuff!

greensnail hope your day got better

chestnut hope you are feeling better

cadmum hope the move goes well

gizmo- get to bed! lol

Do any of you know if it is normal to be feeling movement quite low down- not as low as the pelvis but low down in the abdomen. I know I will sound crazy but I am worried that my cervix will be weaker this being my 4th pregnancy, the other 3 being not easy. Hope I don't freak anyone out, and that you understand where I am coming from.

On another note, anyone suffering from really bad skin and if so what are you using? I need some super duper face wash and/or cleanser, and wondered if there was anything specially for pregnancy I could get.

Hope the rest of you are all well x

Saucepanman It's probably fine. All the movement i feel is really low down - just hoping it's normal.

My skin is pretty bad (around nose region) although seems to have taken a turn for the better in the past week or so. It seems to be spotty and dry and blotchy at the same time . I just use a v. simple facewash (e.g. neutrogena) or just water and whack some savlon or germolene onto aggravated areas then use a darn good cover up (I basically could not live without Boots No.7 cover up!)

Got my scan on Weds and can't decide whether to find out the gender or not. Give me your pros and cons!

madamefreckle:
pros - can concentrate on picking name for right sex, can get dc1 used to the idea of their sibling by telling them what it is and making it seem more real, know whether you need to get clothes for opposite sex or not
cons - not such a surprise on the birth day

Thanks CantSleep. Will you find out? Anyone else? The pros side of the scales is looking weightier...hmmm

We found out with numbers 1 and 2, but not planning to this time (have one of each already, so clothing not really an issue).

saucepanman I think the movement I'm feeling is quite low down too

madamefreckle We're going to have a private gender scan this time as our hospital doesn't tell you the sex. We didn't with the first two but this time I'd just like to know so that I can get prepared. Also, DD1 keeps talking about the baby, asking if it's a girl or a boy baby etc and I think it would be nice to prepare her a bit.

Hope everyone is feeling a bit better today.

I'm using up holiday and have a whole day without children and the only plan is to walk across the village to the doctor's to see the midwife. I might even get to hear the heartbeat.

Madamefreckle I've got my tomorrow and I definitely won't be finding out the sex of the baby. I didn't with the other two. I just think it would take that fantastic moment away when you are anticipating what the midwife is going to say. It was a huge surprise previously both times because with DD I as convinced I was having a boy and vica versa with DS.

What if they get it wrong? I know it's very rare but I dont want to spend the next 20weeks referring to baby as specifically he or she or even choosing a name only to find that Peter is now Petra if you see what I mean?

Each to their own and the majority of my friends have found out the sex of their babies. People even look at me in a strange way because I say I don't want to know but that's just me. I want the surprise!!

Saucepanman my skin is quite bad too, it's really dry. Mainly because my skincare routine has gone out the window. When I was being really sick I couldn't stand the smell of my products and now I've just got out of the habit of doing it.

DH (finally) went to see his GP yesterday. He's been put on AD's. GP said they would take 4 weeks to work and I hope they don't take any longer because he's driving me around the bend.

I know it doesn't sound very sympathetic of me but it's been hell living with him these last few weeks. The sooner he gets counselling the better because he has got so many issues. I know realise that the way he is (i.e getting cross/angry at the slightest thing, thinking that he's being criticised all the time) has a lot to do with having controlling/toxic parents and his behaviour is a by product of it all and hence the breakdown and depression.

I think the worst thing for me is that he blames everything on everyone and anyone else and never takes responsibility for his own actions. He never ever has anything nice to say about anyone. Instead of concentrating on himself/our marriage/family he's too busy slagging off or obsessing over what other people are doing. TBH it drags you down after a while. I'm a big believer in Karma and with DH never having nice things to say about anyone, we did have quite a lot of people sh*t on us last year, but why would anyone cut us a break and be nice to us when he has that attitude??!! I don't want this baby or my DC's for that matter growing up thinking that this is ok or acceptable behaviour.

Phew, I'm sorry I didn't mean to turn that into a rant, it was meant to be a quick update. I do feel better for getting it off my chest.

I will be finding out the sex this time if we can. We didn't last time and it was a nice surprise. This time though just to help get myself a bit more organised I'll find out. For instance if its two boys I'll just get rid of all of DD's clothes. No room to store stuff that we won't use - and I'm sure I won't have time afterwards to sift through boxes of clothes!

I do worry a little that they will get it wrong and won't put too much emphasis on what they tell us. We'll still probably pick names for both sexes just in case, and paint the room yellow/green. I'm not into blue for boys pink for girls anyway - in most cases I try to rebel against it.

Mampam, glad things are a little easier, in my experience the ADs will gradually kick in and it starts improving within a week.

I won't be finding out the sex (unless its staring me in the face in the scan ). I didn't with DD and was convinced she was a boy until about 2 weeks before she was born when I started having doubts. When she was born, she was put straight onto my chest and it was left for me to have a look and see what she was, which was a truly magical moment, so I'm hoping it will work out like that this time around too.

My midwife appointment has been changed to today as my usual midwife is off sick, so being seen by a different one. Fingers crossed I'll get to hear the heartbeat .

My skin has also been terrible for weeks, but looks like its starting to improve now, so hoping I'm entering the blooming stage now!

mampam so glad your DH has been to see GP and got AD's. Don't worry about ranting on here, you've got so much to deal with and you need to let off steam somewhere. By 4 weeks he should be feeling the full effect (so if no better by then, should be looking at increasing the dose probably). I think the first time I took them it was about 3 weeks before I felt any better (and i felt hideously sick during those weeks - pretty similar to morning sickness) but once I'd got through that felt so much better. When i've taken them subsequently I've had a much quicker effect and no real side effects to speak of. Fingers things will improve for you soon.

While I was typing this, my manager has phoned so I've finally informed her of my pregnancy. She was lovely about it and it felt great to finally get it out in the open!

DP really wants to find out the sex. I'm not so sure - I din't with my boys and it added to the excitement of it all imo. If we do find out (our can is next week) then I'm not telling anyone (not sure why just want it to be a surprise I suppose!)

The SPD hasn't been too bad for the last few days - have been making an effort to keep my legs together as much as possible (that is not a euphemism ) and we have a really good new mattress which is helping. I'm finding it bad when I stand up off the sofa - I walk like John Wayne for a few minutes!

Well as my 20 week present to myself I put a deposit down on my beautiful new buggy! I've never bought anything so early before but I'd heard there was a 3 month waiting list for it so didn't want to miss out. Turns out the wait is only a few weeks now but still bought it . We got this beauty. So, so light an easy to steer and collapse etc. Buggys have come a long way since I had my boys!

Mampam,

It's reassuring to hear your DH now has some medication: keep on venting here, it sounds as if issues such as his are going to take a long time to change.

Saucepanman I'm feeling movements all over, including low down. I wonder if it depends on how sensitive your uterus is compared to bladder/intestine etc?

Had a extra scan this morning when I went into our local training hospital to be a guinea pig for the trainee sonographers. Explanation for movements all over - baby was racing around my uterus! Poor little sonography students were a bit baffled about why their transverse sections suddenly became longitudinal . I must say if you get a chance to be a training tool its a good gig: an hour of scanning, expenses paid, free tea, fruit and biscuits and a really interesting insight into how it all works.

I was peering hard at the baby's backside every time it appeared, unlike Mampam and Cantsleep, I'm way too much of a control freak to spend 20 weeks wondering about the gender. Obviously I'm no expert but there seemed to be very little sign of any baby testicles, so now I'm wondering about a girl (and you can all point and laugh when the professionals tell me otherwise at my official 20 week scan).

RnB, I'm starting to think about pushchairs too and I'm very taken with the iCandy range. Why I'm even thinking about it at this stage I'm not sure: I have a love/hate relationship with pushchair shopping where the only certain thing is that by the time baby is 9 months old I will have sold the damn thing, bought a tiny stroller and put the baby in a backpack for country walks. But for some reason, spending hours reading reviews and specification sheets and then parting with the cost of decent holiday seems to be an essential phase of any pregnancy for me .

Oh we looked at the icandy peach blossom (which is virtually the same iirc, but a double) too RnB, and thought it was great. If we decide we need to get a double then it's prob what we'll go for, but at the moment we're hoping that we might not need one, and maybe just get a buggy board for the wonderful Mountain Buggy that has done us proud for the other two, and sling the baby for the first few months, which we tend to do a lot of the time anyway.

oooh it's so interesting seeing what people are doing re sex of baby - I have totally surprised myself by being really tempted to find out this time (didn't with ds). But every time someone tells me it's so much better to find out it makes me not want to! I found it really hard to bond with ds when he was first born so i wonder if finding out would make any difference?

Oh also absolutely terrible skin, it looks like it needs a good scrubbing all the time but of course when i do use any sort of exfoliator it just makes things worse - i like the idea of neutrogena though, nice & gentle.

Have got cravings for dried fruit at the mo which on one hand is so much better than greggs sausage rolls but on the other doesn't make me very pleasant to be around!!!

minimoonumbertwo - I felt it helped me to bond with DD when we found out, but basically I am too impatient to wait!

RnB - Lovely pram. Trying hard to justify getting a double but I know I won't need one. At any rate, a friend has a Phil and Ted's she'll probably lend me, so I have no chance of a gorgeous Icandy. They look fab.

GibberingGinger - I am a redhead too! Lucky you having only out on 3lb. I ended up so huge last time I don't want to weigh myself (though have fewer health problems this time, so more chance). DD's room yellow and green so I am with you there!

Chestnut100 - comiserations on the photos. I can see my face is now puffing and I hate it.

Herewegrow - hope you found something yummy in the kitchen!

Gizmo - LOL at nap. Isn't Ceebeeies great. It has got me through morning sickness so far. I am simply too impatient to wait to find out the gender.

Saucepan - all my movements feel very low.

Madamefreckle - hope tomorrow goes well.

Mampam - I have mental health issues in my family too and I now how wearing it can be. I hope the ADs do the job, but don't be afraid to ask to up the dosage if you don't see improvements in a month. HAve you got an SPD belt? You can buy them online (or you could).

Monkeymargot -I din't know you were expecting twins. I hope you didn't find my comment about due dates offensive. Good luck withthe house.

Perfectbaguette - everything is totally different in Spain too (we don;t live there but DH is Spanish). I must say, it's very good of you to like your doctor despite the internals!

MrsDmamee - Since 8 weeks! Poor you.

Can'tsleepwon'tsleep - good news on the heartbeat.

MrsCO9 - Did you find a boy name yet? Glad the tiredness mostly gone. Mine comes and goes now, but more here than not as yet.

Greensnail - I'm glad your manager was ok. My hormones were so bad in my first pregnancy I once cried when I saw on old man on TV frop his hat and pick it up because I thought it was so undignified!

Woofie - don't worry about the 'charts'. If you love the name, go for it.

Filly - so who is going to be looking after these toddlers at home while we have tea, then?

Nizzy - mine felt like wind but not quite and afterwards I realised it was movements.

Playftseforme - My 20 week is on Feb 14th. AGES!

On the name front, I totally wind up my in-laws because I refuse to name the baby until it is born. My SIL is pregnant now and she name dthe baby directly after the 20 week scan and told everyone. I think that's more normal in Spain than it is here. DH is Spanish. We have to pick names that are pronounced the same in English and Spanish as we don't want DC to feel strange in either place. We have a list for each which on which I like all the names which is a miracle as last time we fought like cat and dog! Also, I had a name picked out for DD but totally changed it to another from our list when we actually saw her.

On the 'find out the sex' question: I am far too impatient to wait. Also, everyone in DH's family is convinced eh'll be devastated if he has another girl, as he has four sisters and wanted a brother when he was little. They have forgotten that he has grown up now, adores his daughter and is getting increasingly cross with them for doing this. So, we really want to find out because if we have a girl and hear comiserating noises we will both go mental!

Here, I am trying to perfect a fairy cake recipe in time for DD's birthday party on Sunday.

I have MW appointment on Thursday, but it's just the 16 weeks one. I'm assuming I will hear the heartbeat as they did it last time. I'll be a bit disappointed if not. Also, I have a consultant sitting in because of emergency c-section last time. I am wondering how much to reveal of how terrified I am this time round. I was totally relaxed last time but this time I just can't imagine it going well. It's not that I have very strong wishes about any of the procedures I just am dreading it. Any ideas on how to play it?

Hi!

Can I join? I'm due on 8th of June with my second.

I just got a feeling with my DS that I was having a boy around 11 weeks so we found out just so i could win an arguement with my Dh who refused to paint the room blue on my "feeling". Still feel smug just thinking about it!

This time around I have no idea! and it's bugging me! don't think I want to know though!

ASDA do thier own skincare range which seems to be working for me - and my skin was REALLY bad!

Anyone else a salt junkie? I'm really worried this craving is going to do harm! - did I mention pregnacny makes me parinoid?

LaTrucha I joined last week but haven't updated the list. What is your due date? Just wondering as I have my 16 wk apt with my midwife on Thurs too. I'm due on the 28th- not that I'm expectng to hold out till then as mine tend to come early!