The PESH Deli serving gin cocktails, blue cheese and softly cooked egg sarnies

[givecarrotsachance]

Welcoming all BESH PESH "grads". Full bar service. Today serving:

Softly scrambled eggs with a side order of prawns, moules mariniere, pate on toast, swordfish and tuna bake with a full cheese board of stilton and unpasturised brie.

[skihorse]

rots I said something like "I hope mine is as quiet as him"... then got the looks when I said "of course, if it cries all night I'll be one of those crazy ladies pacing the streets at 3am with tears streaming down my face".

Can I be lucky enough to hope for Lost in Translation?

[givecarrotsachance]

you never know!

Cripes, LC was so easy and I know so many whose second was a nightmare. Pregnancy was easy, labour was easy (ish), babyhood was easy. At 5 he's still pretty easy. I can see it all going wrong.

Does anyone here think they want a baby but not a toddler? I always did. Couldn't stand toddlers or even worse, older kids. Especially boys. Fucked up there, eh.

[skihorse]

Nope, completely the opposite - I'd happily have a toddler but am less enthused with baybees. Can I loan it out to you for a while rots?

[skihorse]

Nope, completely the opposite - I'd happily have a toddler but am less enthused with baybees. Can I loan it out to you for a while rots?

[givecarrotsachance]

Cripes ski you really meant that with the emphasising double-posts

Oh yes, send 'em over. I love baybees, me. Actually when it came to it, LC as a toddler was muuucho easier and sooooo cute and funny, and as a small boy he's just my buddy - fun to be with and great company.

[givecarrotsachance]

Shit, this put me off completely:

www.sciencemuseum.org.uk/on-line/lifecycle/58.asp

Yucky.

[iggypiggy]

carrots I is def not clicking that link - they way you describe it sounds like I no want see...

[skihorse]

Nom nom, the Danish Blue thread had me at the supermarket this morning. How can it be bad for you when a listed ingredient is penicillin?

How is everyone feeling?

[givecarrotsachance]

Tee hee @ Danish Blue. Dunno why you can consider eating that stuff. It's rank. Like I've said before, it's mouldy - gone off - baaaad. No, not a pregnancy thing. A normal, whywouldanyoneeatmould thing. No, I don't eat mushrooms either, given that they're fungus. Yuck.

iggy well ya gonna get one even if you don't click on it

Feeling crap today. Not actually chucked but VV close and VV nauseous. Felt like if I actually threw up I'd feel better but didn't, so don't know. Sense of smell going nuts, too so seems like that's coming and going and definately directly affecting how I feel. The World Smells Bad. My house f'in stinks and I can't stand the smell of my cleaning stuff (which is all eco and plant based anyway so no stinky chemicals) to clean the darned thing.

At the same time totally chuffed to be feeling like this and not complaining at all! Just hoping that YOB will be an angel and will cook tonight.

Told MIL today and she was seeeeriously chuffed. Asked me if I was planning home birth which I thought was an odd question although YOB said afterwards she'd pretty much got the measure of me and how I would want to do this. Having told MIL we then decided it was ok to tell best friends so I phoned my closest friend, and we had a long chat about all implications, good and bad, and I am SO happy now to have someone I can talk to about it all IRL.

How's everyone else?

Trying to understand H's message on the other place - is it game over?

[skihorse]

Jailbait has been converted to parmesan on pasta - but otherwise he'd only eat squirty cheese I fear. Heathens - the lot of you!

I'm not smelling anything yet which he isn't I don't think, still really tired though and quite out of breath.

I rode Ginger last night and she was in a pig of a mood so it was utterly crap - she's supposed to be looking after preggo mummy... instead there was some bucking and I wimped out. I then realised I'd left my laptop at the office despite unlocking and undocking it. Preggo brain.

I hope H can find an alternate answer - although seeing Scorp's thing about mental health + adoption there's no bloody way they'd give me a baybee. Plus I'm fat & old anyway. I gather they only like giving baybees to perfectly healthy married 27 year olds.

[givecarrotsachance]

ski squirty cheese? Mucho yuck.

Yes, feel so much for H. Without wanting to sound too American, she sounds like she's being really strong about it (how else does one actually say that without sounding completely poncey IYKWIM?) but it must be heartbreaking for her.

How was your ride today? Weather here awful - dog walking not much fun although they seemed to like it. Spent morning in town avoiding Santa's grottos buying stuff to make a pirate costume for LC for a birthday party next weekend. Not sure how good I am at sewing so it may end up awful but I don't think he will care.

MS so much better today other than the odd wave - but also sense of smell back to normal. Lift in shopping centre I had to step out of yesterday actually smelt normal today . Also spent much of night on loo which is getting a bit annoying and embarassing, frankly . Better than throwing up all day I suppose.

WHERE IS EVERYONE??? You've all got yourselves lives, haven't you, and not bothering coming here anymore????

Oh well, sewing here I come, followed by some home baking. Just call me Jane Asher.

[skihorse]

Well as I understand it (I've watched Juno ;) and read books & shiz) there are more options in the US if you can flash a bit of cash - what with them being so anti-abortion there are more opportunities to adopt or find a surrogate - apparently the surrogate market is booming in these difficult financial times... I really hope she can find a solution which makes the whole family happy.

The ride was pretty good - everyone else went out on a 4 hour ride and I couldn't face a bit one so just did a quick 1.5 hours which was good. Did some furious hand signals at some drivers who refused to slow down though - absolute arseholes. What if I had a kid on a lead-rein?

I was up at 3am again with hunger AND nausea. Ate a bowl of cereal - the last bowl actually and then 20 minutes later my tummy said "I'm a HUNGRY HIPPO feed me!" I cannot believe how much I'm eating right now. Fuckbuckets. I fear it'll not be long until I'm bursting out of my size 6s. (shoes)

I engaged in some dangerous activity today. Took the dogs to the park and tried to climb up a steep bit and fell on my arse. People really should stay on the sofa when diffed!

[givecarrotsachance]

Yes, well I hope they find a solution which works for them. So tough.

Glad you enjoyed the ride. 'Course I worked out that me saying I was going to take it up again got me in this condition (nothing to do with the sex for 8 days in a row!). Stupid drivers = universal thing then. Mum's had one horse bolt badly with a van coming up behind the carriage and bumping the back step (where dad is!), beeping the horn. Her funniest experience about 20 years ago was a driver of a mini zipping past at V high speed and VV close to the carriage. She stuck her whip out to tap it on the roof which she normally did in that situation. No damage to car but sounded really bad inside the car. 100 yards up the road the car screeched to a halt and the driver leapt out, ran up the road, bent down and picked his car aerial off the road and ran after the carriage with it waving angrily! It had been sheared right off .

For the REALLY bad drivers who were really, properly risking my life I'd shove out a boot. If they were close enough for me to touch them and scrape the car with my stirrup they were toooo close. Only happened once or twice but made me feel better as I hung of for dear life.

I also had a whip with a metal tip which was good for tapping the car roof to give them a fright.

On the other hand, I hate it when I'm driving and slow down or, if I'm driving the landy, stop (it's a huge 12 seater and really noisy) and I get ignored by the rider. Unless they're struggling with a stroppy mount there's no excuse. You can understand in a way why non-horsey people get peeved enough to not bother .

Incidentally M&D are most peeved about the July due date as that's right mid carriage driving season . My first wedding had to be timed around the season and the only reason the second one wasn't is because the dates were set by when YOB's sister could come over from a furrin country!

When are you getting a dating scan? I'm wanting to know how much further you are than me and cassie. I think iggie is about a week before me. I estimate I'm 5 weeks tomorrow and it's amazing to think that sometime in the next week the heart will start to beat. I wish I knew when it happens.

Given our age I dunno if any of you lot who haven't yet given birth have this problem (I sure do) and obviously as this website shows it's a real problem in pregnancy (and doesn't always stop afterwards ).

Made me laugh though (but not too hard and with my legs crossed)

www.babycenter.com/0_believe-it-or-not-pee-stories_1461092.bc

[skihorse]

Sorry carrots, you've written an essay and I'm braindead and jailbait is on the edge of the sofa with his hands just about over his eyes... yay for Scotland!

It wasn't today actually a case of people getting too close but instead dickheads on a quiet country road coming at me at around 50mph+ when they had a quarter of a mile view I was coming and not slowing down. Unfortunately she's too tall and I'm too short to be able to kick wing mirros, but it's not unknown for me to hold my whip upside down and tap panels...

I'm not sure when the dating scan will be - when do they normally do it? I can't be more than a few days ahead of you, I think I OV'd around 25th Nov.

Jailbait told his mum today... I'm moaning to HCS that everyone seems to think they have the right to tell you what to do. She's told me I need to be tested for RH+, Downs, etc., etc., because of my age. I already know my blood group (O pos) and we already know what we'd do about a Downs baby. There was also a sharp intake of breath when he told her I was at the stables... I think he's convinced her Ginger is a 3-legged Shetland pony though haha.

[CurlyCasper]

hope you meant 25th october ski otherwise you've gone all timelord with detecting this pregnancy

rots, I think I am 5+3, based on october 28 ov. so ski, iggy and I are separated by just a few days. (of course, I'm anticipating following my mum's style and giving birth three weeks early to a nice small baby)

bad belly getting worse...

Oh, and yes, fucking brilliant result for Scotland!

[givecarrotsachance]

casper get that belly checked out (and I'm not apologising for copying Ski's BF's mum by telling you what to do). Should be checked. Sounds worse than it should be.

ski only reason I wrote an essay is because I was a sad git with nothing to do on a crappy sat afternoon than sit on the puter. Feeling so much better today that while YOB had a nap with a book and LC played with a new toy I was boooored.

PS glad I'm not the only whip-tapper

[iggypiggy]

Morning all. I will be six weeks one Tuesday apparently.

I have woken up in a pit of misery. I don't feel good about this... I know everyone will say that every pregnancy is different and not everyone feels sick. But there is no way that feeling as totally normal as I do is a good sign - please to ignore me while I wallow.

[skihorse]

iggy If you've got all the energy and health which has deserted poor Casper and I, can I ask you to run your hoover around my gaff, walk the dogs for me, get the shopping in and then go for a stroll in to town to read a paper at a cafe? I might just go back to sleep... Everyone was yacking on the BESH thread last night and I was sleeping. Again.

How is your tits iggy?

[iggypiggy]

Tits feel ok at the mo. Thanks

am about to walk the dog anyway - I'll take yours with me. Forget housework tho...

[skihorse]

Just dragged the dogs out around the park and it was lovely... we looked at the goats and the stag came over and "biffed" the fence. Housework? Pfff "I sweep the room with a glance". Dog-owners amongst you will understand.

[givecarrotsachance]

ski absolutely. I'm trying to train LC to be a cleaner.

iggy yes it is normal - many people feel nothing. I know that isn't going to take away from your worries but I thought I'd say it anyway. So sorry you're feeling so bad

[skihorse]

carrots haha, give LC a cardboard cut-out, a prit-stick and the dyson and tell him to make his own dog!

iggy I'm so sorry you're struggling, I really am. I know we're all terrified for ourselves but I've kind of made the decision that I'm going to enjoy this pregnancy until the day it's cruelly ripped from my hands. I can't for my mental health, spend the next however long stressing myself out and worrying.

Do we still do violence over here in PESH?

[givecarrotsachance]

iggy what ski said. It was a conscious decision I made, too - although I understand entirely that this is not always possible.

ATM I would love to feel sick and be throwing up (tomorrow different story as back to work) and I know that sounds utterly stupid. On the other hand, I'm enjoying this time just knowing that I am pregnant feeling good about that.

None of us can change the outcome of what will happen but there's a far bigger chance that all will be well than not.

You know, I don't know if us trying to reassure you will do anything - or just make you feel more frustrated and worried. Is there anything we can do to make you feel better?

ski @ dog.

[givecarrotsachance]

iggy check this out:

www.babyexpert.com/chatroom/topic/29163

[CurlyCasper]

morning, or should i say afternoon. i'm a morning person, but was in bed from 10.30pm last night to 11.30am today. also had my meltdown. SFF asked what was wrong and out came everything. work, house, keeping baby alive, whether baby will be healthy, how dog will react (!). complete terrified meltdown .

But my belly is better. Looks like was a bug, cause he had a touch of it too.

iggs i don't think anything we say can make you worry any less. I think you've told yourself if all. But it is still very early. think you should walk into EPU. You've had a previous mc and you are terrified - no way they can turn you away. surely better to risk seeing MIL and get reassurance that to work yourself into a worried mess? either way - we are here for you, with hugs and violence.