The PESH Deli serving gin cocktails, blue cheese and softly cooked egg sarnies

[givecarrotsachance]

Welcoming all BESH PESH "grads". Full bar service. Today serving:

Softly scrambled eggs with a side order of prawns, moules mariniere, pate on toast, swordfish and tuna bake with a full cheese board of stilton and unpasturised brie.

[iggypiggy]

ski all kinds of nonsense - but this particular thread was in AIBU - so I only Haz myself to blame... Is prolly wrong to talk about annuva fred on here - but fuck it - is just people spouting bollocks about pack theory - which has been totally discredited. Then citing the reason it is true as the fucking dog bully whisperer. But people believe blindly - they have no evidence/ research behind them - they just like Cesar Milan and think it makes sense - yeah cos that makes it true... Did you see the thing about his methods - from all the dog welfare orgs? www.dogwelfarecampaign.org/

Sorry - getting off dog behaviour soapbox - is one of my total obsessions...

Ski my consultant concurs too on whine flu - he said not to bother with vac...

rots I know - I wasn't offended!

pone cheesey nips? oh dear....

I is feeling sick again today - I thought that bit was over

[skihorse]

iggy I iz feeling sick, Cosmosis has gone home to lie on the sofa, pony has cheesy nips and cunty's on the wine. Only carrots is bouncing around like a 3rd trimester 15 year old at a nightclub.

I had no idea you were such a dog expert - wish I'd come to you earlier in the year with our Jackapoo problems! Does that Cesar Milan guy follow the Jan Fennell route or is this another method? We've pretty much broken one of her major rules but the Jackapoo hasn't pissed on the floor since July so we can live with it...

I'd much rather stick with your father's advice than get berrated (as I did) on a ski forum as to how fucking irresponsible I was. Cnuts.

[givecarrotsachance]

Aww ski WTF did you expect on a ski forum? Seriously, come on. If I got told off by u-know-who about JOKING about eating food stuffed with listeria how are people going to react to you saying you're gonna ski wiv bump?

But more to the point, WhoTF cares what they say? You know perfectly well enough how good you are, and how capable you are, so why do you actually care about what they say? They're all ignorant little pussies who think that driving a car is perfectly safe but eating a bit of brie will KILL YOUR BABY STONE DEAD.

You're a good skiier with an excellent sense of self and baby preservation. Go with your instincts and ignore the forum fluff.

On another note, I'm not sure I'm bouncing around. I'm not feeling sick (hurrah) but I dragged myself back home last night and just totally crashed. House is a fucking tip, I haven't done any ironing for weeks and I haven't even cooked a meal for about a fortnight - poor YOB is having to do everything. I also got totally emotional last night and really upset about the nuchal, feeling that we just shouldn't have done it, and how do we go about deciding what risk factor is "too high" to then go for an amnio, and anyway I couldn't have an abortion but I want a perfect baybee WAAAAHHHH. I was a bit of a sorry, hormonal state. Then we had sex and I felt better . Feeling brighter and perkier today so I suppose it was the stress of the scan. It was tough as the baby kept rolling the wrong way and it took an hour of her bouncing the probe on my stomach (lurvely with the full bladder), and me walking around and jumping up and down (again, remember, full bladder) to try to get it to move. It wasn't nice.

Anyway, clearly it seems I'm feeling the best of you bunch but just look at it as how you'll feel soon enough. Does that help? Probably not

Lovin' you guys

[givecarrotsachance]

iggs what would you do with a dog which is terribly aggressive to other dogs until he gets to know them (then he's fine).

He will sound like the hound from hell on the lead, and if let go will simply pile in and not stop even if the other dog is completely submissive. I mean, it's dangerous.

TBH he's much worse with me there than anyone else so I'm sure a lot of it is defending me, but, still if he's loose he will attack first, ask questions later, and as I said, just not stop.

He doesn't actually rip out their throats (just relatively minor bites) but still.

I have had him for 10 years and tried a variety of dog trainers/dog psychologists etc, none of which have helped. I now (and for the past 9 1/2 years) manage it by having him do an excellent recall, and only letting him off the lead when I know it's totally safe from other dogs, and muzzling him when there's any risk at all to other dogs.

Any thoughts?

[iggypiggy]

ski am not expert - just feel very strongly - plus dog goes to gundog training classes each week and have worked alot with behaviourists in past. Actually - someone posted v. interesting link on dog behaviour:
positively.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=600
Not massive Jan Fennell fan... but she's better than Cesar!

rots to be 100% honest I would speak to one specific dog behaviourist that I know - I've never met anyone like her (she doesn't always get on with people tho!). I don't think am expert enough to deal with agression... I wouldn't want to give shit advice cos I honestly haven't really dealt with it. My dog is a pussy... Also really recommend anyone at Wag more Bark less: www.learningaboutdogs.com/html/who_we_are.html they are really fab - but not handy for you, although they may be able to recommend someone near you?

My current dog trainer is excellent, but she is more about the gundog training than behavioural remodification...

Sorry - gonna shut up about dog

rots I mainly feel ok - just been feeling sick again last night and today for some reason - but i think I too have been mainly ok.

[skihorse]

carrots Oh, you misunderstand! Nobody gives a hoot about skiing - they are all of the train of thought that sitting around in cotton wool makes mummy a psycho with PND. Nope, skiing was perfectly acceptable - choosing not to have the swine-flu vacc was what put me in the dog house!

iggs what would you do with a grumpy old sterilised lady dog who wants to play but doesn't know how to play nicely, is a huge great bully and jumps on all the smaller than her dogs and really only likes big boy dogs with balls? We tend to just keep her on the lead rather than apologise to everyone we meet.

[iggypiggy]

ski I'd introduce grumpy play fail to my dog - who she would love, and he would sort out the playing

Am only half joking - another dog to teach her how to play nicely would prob work well... unless you can intervene (distract her - rather than tell off) each time she starts to go wrong with it and massively praise 'good' interaction - but that could confuse her if you weren't spot on with timings.. How old is she anyway? BTW there are far more expert people on here than me (midori, minimu and bella) and they would have v. good advice - they trouble is every other cunt would pile in with 'have you tried the dog whisperer'

[skihorse]

Sorry, not PND - AND!

iggs Thanks for the clarification, I just have never heard of this Cesar chap so wondered if he were affiliated with Jan somehow. Mine don't eat small children so generally I'm happy with them. Their biggest behavioural issue afaik is moulting.

[iggypiggy]

ski well that's ok then

[givecarrotsachance]

ski that's hilarious. Idiots.

Well you know my feeling about the SF vaccine but how the hell does anyone think they have the right to have a go at you for not having it?

My point on it was always people's inability to make a valid risk assessment, not a judgement on whether they should have it (although I think it's a good idea but that's not the point).

Hope you didn't mind me giving you a good telling off .

[skihorse]

iggy She's 8.5, we think a lot of the problems stem from her being "over-protective" with the Jackapoo... you know what it's like, nobody is allowed to duff up your little sister except you! That's what she needs really though - a big dog who isn't going to be easily intimidated and big enough to knock her off her feet too!

[iggypiggy]

ski I'll ship mine over - I'd say he fits the bill...

[CurlyCasper]

Just to add to ski's list of PESH woes, I've been bed/sofa bound since Sunday evening (and mostly unable to cope with glare of PC screen) thanks to horrible, horrible sinusitis. Feel a bit better now, so came online to relive boredom.

Ears, head, face, eyes, neck AGONY! Head pounds if I stand up, bend down, have a poo...anything other than lie down TBH. Turns out the best way to avoid is to take sudafed or similar if you get a cold - which I normally do except couldn't last week thanks to diffed-ness. Best treatment? That would be painkillers + ibuprofen - again my usual routine. Paracet does not touch this pain and codeine (and ibuprofen) out thanks to baby. grump. at least I've my sterimar nasal spray and olbas oil - woo hoo

On the upside, my dog has been an angel, sitting/lying quietly beside me the whole time. SFF was working yesterday and she didn't pester me for walks/play the whole day - and he was delayed by an hour so out from 8.30am to 7pm. Bless my canine angel. Think she's tuning into me anyway, espesh after her over-protective behaviour when any men came near me at Christmas and New year.

sorry if I've missed anything I should be referring to...

[iggypiggy]

cassie I currently haz headache - iz not competeing - but I haz sympathy... The headaches are dring me mad!

Sinusitis is SO painful - much sympathy to the poorly PESHies

[CurlyCasper]

Thanks iggs, all headaches are the work of Beelzebub

[givecarrotsachance]

Sorry to all you with headaches It's just the worst thing, spec when you can't take anything

Off topic but,

PEOPLE ARE SO FUCKING STUPID AND SOMETIMES I JUST WANT TO TELL MY SO CALLED FUCKING STUPID CUSTOMER IDIOTS THAT THEY'RE TOTALLY STUPID, STUPID IDIOTS WHO ARE STUPID.

I feel so much better now. Thanks.

[skihorse]

carrots I wasn't angry with you earlier - I'm still laughing my socks off about you making little carrot cry. I must admit when you told me, I momentarily got the names mixed up and thought you meant your husband. Ladies - can you believe she made little carrot cry by kicking a tree and deliberately showering him with snow?

[skihorse]

Line up, line up - we've got a newbie coming!

[givecarrotsachance]

ski I know, I'm an evil mama. I honestly thought he'd think it was funny, idiot I am! I think when it went down his neck it really upset him, poor little mite.

I must say I did feel pretty guilty although when he was still crying 10 minutes later I did have to tell him to stop being a wimp! He claimed that it still hurt his head which was rubbish (he was wearing a woolly hat and a thick coat hat) and was just trying to get sympathy. I mean, he's been on this planet for over 5 years - he should have realised now that his mummy doesn't really do sympathy unless it's really necessary.

[givecarrotsachance]

Ooh Ooh who is it???? Spill!!!

[CurlyCasper]

ski Have you actually invited her in yet? Think she might be a bit scaredy...

[Cosmosis]

I vote we all go over there and bully her into turning up here!

[givecarrotsachance]

Pleeeez don't make me go back into Conception. I just can't take it, seriously. Please tell me who it is!!!

[skihorse]

Curly I think she's still in denial haha.

rots It's VAG!

Cosmo Yeh! Let's go in, bundle her, blindfold her and drag her out and force her to eat shellfish!

[givecarrotsachance]

Ooh oh brilliant news! (Thanks ski for the msg). That's excellent! I'm really chuffed.

Just noticed that we're running through t'numbers a bit rapid-like. Anyone fancy hosting the next round? I'm thinking ski coz she's just done the vaccuuming so she must be feeling a bit welcoming and ready to party. Eh? What do you mean, f-off you're knackered?