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Softly scrambled eggs with a side order of prawns, moules mariniere, pate on toast, swordfish and tuna bake with a full cheese board of stilton and unpasturised brie.

Pass the gin! I just blabbed at the stables and have created mass hysteria! Everyone is so excited and across Southern Holland you can hear the cries of "We're having a baby!" "We?"

They also all said that because I've got such a lovely, sweet horse I should keep riding until I can't get my leg over or get on anymore. One of the girls said eat what you like but try not to put on too much weight - she too has struggled with her weight in the past so knows the score... She also said if I wanted a fag I should have it! But apparently no drugs. Everyone understands that I'll ride out with one other person but I'm not happy riding in a group anymore. It's brilliant - they are all so happy and I've already been offered baby-sitting so I can ride post-partum, they've offered to look after her when I'm too tired and the YO wants a little creche - her sister is also expecting. So happy I've gone emoticon mad!

Brave you ski!

I am currently sitting on a train and thinking travelling is poo when you have, as SFF called it today, morning non-sickness. (I feel really, really off, queasy but not actually puking)
Will I survive four flights? (2x 1hour and 2 x 3hrs??) in five days?

Went to rhematologist today. It was a new doctor and when he asked what meds I take, I took great delight in declaring "nothing - I'm pregnant!" He was really nice. Didn't see the point in keeping me any longer today, said steroids are an option if things get bad, and can I go see him in six months (instead of the usual year) so he can check up on me. But If I'm big with baby and feeling fine, I can just cancel and keep my feet up - nice man!

Very excited to see my parents tonight

Brave you ski!

I am currently sitting on a train and thinking travelling is poo when you have, as SFF called it today, morning non-sickness. (I feel really, really off, queasy but not actually puking)
Will I survive four flights? (2x 1hour and 2 x 3hrs??) in five days?

Went to rheumatologist today. It was a new doctor and when he asked what meds I take, I took great delight in declaring "nothing - I'm pregnant!" He was really nice. Didn't see the point in keeping me any longer today, said steroids are an option if things get bad, and can I go see him in six months (instead of the usual year) so he can check up on me. But If I'm big with baby and feeling fine, I can just cancel and keep my feet up - nice man!

Very excited to see my parents tonight

How are you all today?

Funnily enough I don't feel particularly brave - it's about the only time I don't feel nauseous and she's so luffly and cuddly and smells of cotton candy and glitter. I got a text from my mum last night which read "I only felt sick for 7 months". Double . That really wasn't what I wanted to hear!

Where are you off to anyway Casper? I gathered you were travelling but have no idea to where? Business or pleasure?

carrots is everything OK in the rotty household? I always worry about your Friday radio silence!

Ponymum Your man is back and rubbing your feet I presume?

Iggy Why hast thou foresaken us?

cunty What diffed rule have you broken this week?

Others/newbies What's new?

Don't think I've broken any rule this week ski. Had office xmas party yesterday and managed to side step the alcohol issue nicely. I'd half-convinced myself that I'd have a glass filled with wine and then sip gently at it all night to head people off at the pass. As it was though I started with something to 'quench my thirst' and then I turned back and everyone was so pissed that nobody noticed I was on black and soda all night . There was another lady not drinking as she was driving 6 hours later (which, if it was me normally wouldn't have even come into it until about 3 hours out), but since hombre was coming along later and obv I had to drive I made that excuse too. And as she rightly said - what's the point of geting the taste for it if you're only going to have 1 or 2.

Hombre got absoluely totalled. It was like a car crash. We went to bed at midnight, after he had fallen out of the car into the road when we pulled up outside the house,and then I was woken at 2.30 (even with earplugs) by him having a fight with the wardrobe so I had to guide him to the toilet where I think he fell asleep with his head over the bowl. Luckily by the time he was at his worst, most people had gone home so there was only one of my staff still there with his girlfriend (into whose lap hombre decided to pitch himself on the way to the gents)- still deciding whether to die of shame or not.

But I don't think I have gone against the media-led Laws of Pregnancy so far. I do have a yen for some pate though

ski I'm at home in Scotland at the mo. And will be taking an altogether more magical trip tomorrow (see the other place). Definitely pleasure!

So glad my flight up made it - when I arrived they were announcing loads of cancellations due to fog.

cunty sound like SFF's usual behaviour! Only going to his work do this year, but dreading being sober when he's on full drunken form

Hope you feel a little less ski

Hi all. Guess I will miss you going, cassie but hope you had a fab time!!

I'm fine here. For those who don't know, I don't work Fridays so am away from the computer mostly, so I don't tend to post. Last week was pretty exhausting, with the scan and stuff, and we're getting so close to Christmas that work is nuts (everyone wanting everything sent before Christmas). I'm just avoiding doing a load of paperwork ATM, hence logging on.

Since the good scan I've been feeling sooo much better about it all. We've booked in with the NHS midwife and when I told her that we were planning a homebirth with an indie, she literally begged me not to, saying that they loved doing homebirths and were 100% supportive of them! So after lots of discussions we decided to save the £3k+ and go NHS!

It's just totally different to my last experience, which was in a different area. Apparently, the hospital that I ended up in before is well known for being very over-medicalised and obste-led rather than MW-led, whereas my area is MW-led.

So I'm really pleased about that! We're also booking this nuchal scan on the NHS, saving more dosh. All good.

I've been feeling pretty well this week. I'm wearing the travel bands and using homeopathy and Vit B6. I also went out and bought 3 new bras - I've gone to a DD from a C! . Even YOB noticed the other night. We've been advised not to SFF so he's trying to stay away so he's not tempted, but the increase in size isn't helping!! But, although I avoided buying new ones as I knew I'd have to go down the matron-style route rather than pretty-pretty, because I wanted them to Not Move (coz moving hurts), I am so pleased I did as I am SO much more comfortable. I also bought some new trousers in a size 16 from Evans, so I can wear something other than my joggers to work and try to look 1/2 decent!

Belly is really swollen and I'm really suffering from gas - up and down . It's just awful as I have a rep for not farting, ever! So I'm trying to be really discreet but it's not always happening and I hate it. Not as bad as pooing when delivering though .

Other news - Ex's baby arrived. LC is there at the moment and seems to adore him, which is lovely. There have been a few moments such as ex saying to me that he couldn't understand why I found BF so easy as his GF is finding it tough (a week in). I explained that I DIDN'T find it easy, but as he was having nothing to do with either of us he didn't notice. I think he was a little bit but if so he didn't say so. I'm also getting WAAYYYY too much information about GF's personal stuff - state of cervix/passing of clots/etc. It's like he's missing some kind of social barrier and doesn't realise this isn't stuff he should share ESPEC with me FFS. Poor lass.

However, the good thing is that LC loves the babe, and is V happy to have a brother (although he told me he's have prefered a sister - maybe next time, eh) and so far no rejection of LC from ex, other than reduced numbers of phone calls when LC is at home, but that's ok. I did try to help the GF by giving them the NCT's BF info line as this agro isn't her or the babe's fault, and hopefully they can help.

ski keep riding and spending time with your ponee - as much as you can. It's all good. FAB news about supportive yard.

cunty @ hombre. Hope he had a suitably bad hangover and is making it up to you. Naughty fellow.

Right, must get back to paperwork. Shin kicks to all. xxx

Oh how smug I was yesterday wrt cunty's hombre. Until about 11pm last night.

It was the stables xmas do which was held in the cellar of someone's house. A cellar with a properly kitted out bar with pumps! So jailbait got stuck in to the free beer and whilst he kept muttering sweet nothings such as "I always knew I'd have kids, I just never thought with anyone as lovely as you" he did get very drunk, very quickly.

By quarter to eleven we had to leave because I was starting to snore/drool if not stimulated loudly. Approximately halfway home, basically as soon as we got on to a road where I couldn't pull over he said he felt sick, wound down the window and puked down the outside of the car and quite a bit on the inside. Until that point there had been a German 4WD right up my arse... weird, he pulled back sharpish!

He was sent downstairs this morning with a soapy spunge and a bucket of water. Oh... and i) apparently it's my fault, ii) I was supposed to wait up with him as he lay on the bathroom floor for an hour hugging the toilet bowl and iii) it was my fault that the dogs were lying on the bed refusing to get off when he finally came to bed!

I'm going for another homebirth too Carrots, can't recommend them highly enough. Glad to hear LC is enjoying being a big bro.

My other half is out on a boys only day and night of drinking and general debauchery. He went out at 10 this morning and is not expected back until the early hours. It's going to be ugly I can tell, so he's been banished to the sofa tonight. Let them get it out of their system I say, cos there aint going to be much of that come next summer!

Had my first wave of nausea today, hurrah!

twinkletoes I too am in the homebirth camp, they're quite the norm here so I'm very happy with that.

carrots So glad that your NHS midwife team are moving in this direction - what a relief - and of course it's wonderful being able to save 3k! Fantastic news all around.

My boobs are getting beyond ridiculous although jailbait thinks it's brilliant - he'd probably think it were more brilliant if he were allowed to touch them!

I think I'm also going to have to buy more clothes asap, not one pair of "bottoms" in my wardrobe has any lycra in them, so come the end of the day it can be quite debilitating wearing something with no give. Long live the Du Pont family!

Ha ski - welcme to my world

Hom lay on the sofa moaning from 10am till we went to bed at 11pm. He did not one thing all day.

Great news carrots. I'm going for my booking in appt on Wed and we have to decide what type of birth we'd like. I'd love a home birth but I think for my first, at my age, it's prob more sensible to go to a Mw led unit. Emailed 3 doulas yesterday so we'll be 'interviewing' whenever we can arrange it and get a better idea of what my options are and what is sensible.

I know what I want but need the backing from an expert to make sure I have all the info. Not sorting anything out till after my 12 week scan on 23rd - just to make sure everything is ok.

Can I just momentarily piss everyone off by saying that yesterday I got into and fastened a pair of trousers that wouldn't fasten before I was pregnant I've always been a contrary bitch

Lost my appetite innit

Good for you lucky bint!

@ thought of being in any way anorexic

I bet they do HBs with a bit of finesse in the Netherlands Ski (that is where you are, right?) - I think they have the highest HB rate in the Western world or summink like that. My labour was so quick last time I think it would be risky to even attempt to go in to hospital!

I too am rather gassy at the moment Carrots, and my little one seems to take great pleasure in outing me in public places with loud shouts of "what a funny noise mama". I keep remembering all the unpleasant things that happened last pregnancy which I had conveniently forgotten about...

Yay twinkle - that's the kind of labour story I want to hear about, none of this "6 days of excrutiating pain" bobbins! They do indeed seem to have it down to a fine art here so it should all be pretty smoothly done.

Cor twinkle, that's brilliant. Yes, I kinda have the same problem. I was in labour from 7.30am to 7.30pm with LC but my labour notes say 1st stage was about 7 hours, and 2nd about 1 1/2 hours, so I guess they're working that as active labour for 7 hours + 2nd stage. So pretty quick by either calculation for a 1st baby - and I was 31 (by about 8 days) at the time - AND he was back to back with his hand up by his face. Mum had my younger bro, her 2nd, in about 3 hours flat so I'm expecting this one to be fast. Remind me how old your LO is?

cunty at your flat tummy. It won't last Buahahaha . I think I MW unit is a great compromise. Realistically, there's not much difference between that and HB as what they can do in the units they can do at home, AFAIK, although you don't get the mess!! But it's got to be a really nice way to give birth - much nicer than a hospital. How old are you? You're younger than me, aren't you? I mean, I know I've already had one which does help, but I just wondered. Oh, I heard that Hull hospital had started a trial using doulas. They're volunteers, trained in being a doula, but not actually medically trained. They have reduced their section rate by something phenomenal, like from over 25% to 12% or something (I can't remember the exact figures). It just shows that with the right support, it can make a huge difference to a labouring woman.

ski - . I'm lucky. YOB is teetotal (he just doesn't like alcohol) so there's never a chance of that happening. But it was so lovely what he was saying to you. That's worth some forgiveness!

LOL tonight @ LC. He's still at ex's and they've had some people over inc ex's GF's parents. I was chatting to LC and talking about the baby, and he told me that the GF's parents were there to see the baby, and then without warning, passed the phone over to GF's mum to "say hello to my mummy". Just what she wanted, I'm sure, her daughter's boyfriend's ex-wife on the phone! Very funny.

She's two Carrots.

My labour lasted 5 and a half hours from first twinge to her being born (also with her hand by her face!) but i was fully dilated after only 2 and half hours . Needless to say it took us by surprise so it was a good job we had a homebirth booked!

I've cooked the most enormous spaghetti and meatballs, so off to get stuck in!

carrots I think the whole tee-total thing is the problem... because we simply don't drink - the last time he got trollied was August 2008. So he only had a pathetic ~4 pints but that was enough. I couldn't deal with it on a regular basis.

I'm having a tough time today. MS was very bad yesterday evening and I woke at 4am wanting to stab myself in the head. Fell asleep again at 7. By 9am I was almost dressed, but in tears on the sofa becaues a shower and getting dressed had just taken it all out of me... when BAM, had to run to the bathroom to heave up... saliva (obviously nothing else in there). This is the official mark of graduation from just nausea/sea-sickness to actual real vomming. I drove to work with a plastic bag on the passenger seat just in case. Jailbait keeps telling me it's all good and that it's all good signs...

I am sooooo excited that our darling Cosmo will be joining us over here! Another summer baby!

ski hast not deserted thee - just been bizzy innit.

Am pissing self off massively by feeling better and wailing 'it's all over' and then feeling shit again and being pleased about it like some kind of freak...

Saw my horse on Sat - bit sad that couldn't ride... but is ok - others are enjoying him..

I too am excited at arrival of cossie

iggy Did you give him some cuddles? Last weekend I just took her for a walk down the road to eat some grass because I wasn't up for riding, it was lovely anyway.

You shouldn't be bizzy - that's what your gentleman friend is for - he's supposed to be running around after you like a cabana boy!

I thought I was getting better ms-wise then it hit me again like a sledgehammer at the end of last week. It's only half the size of my thumb and yet it's laid me out. We are going to have "words" when we meet!

It was lovely to see horselet anyway - he was all hot from having just been ridden - he did smell v. much tho...

Poor bloke is running around muchly - while I drape self over sofa and wail 'I feel sick'

iggy good to see you. I have had a good few days and have wondered the same, but am refusing to allow it. Still got other symptoms, eg massive boobs, and also less obvious ones such as not being able to face tea, and for me, that's a BIG thing.

Can't stop but cassie glad you had a good time!