Due Jan 2010 - watching our beans grow into bumps :-)

[sazlocks]

As we all talk so fast the last thread is nearly full so thought I would start us off on a new one

Mama2b5 - that made me all emotional.

You sound lovely and I bet you are a great mum x

So sorry to hear you lost your mum in March. You sound very strong and I believe loved ones stay by your side. Im sure she will be with you all the way.

I sometimes think about when my parents will go and honestly i feel my heart breaking so I can not imagine what you have been going through.

I hope though when it does happen that I will be as strong as you.

devotion- i didnt feel strong when it happened,i was a wreck!!!!! but I had to stay strong for the kids! im the youngest but i had to stay strong and my hubby was wonderful and planned the whole funeral!

My baby will never know my mum, but we have so many photos and video when older will be told all about her, she was a wonderful and loving mum and taught me all i know and more!

Cant believe i will be at the hospital again on friday but its for my 22 wks scan cant wait so excited!

The beauty of camcorders

At least I know my two will remember my parents as I have so much footage of them so it helps keep their memories fresh.

Enjoy your scan on Friday!

Thanks

Mama2b5 - I lost my mum in February too so I completely understand your emotions. I must confess that my pregnancy was something of a shock but they do say one goes as another comes along! I have wondered all along if this is some kind of karma type thing - although I have had a bit of a rubbish time so far so I think my mum is laughing up her sleeve and thinks its payback for me being such a rotter to her in my teens!!! Best of luck for Friday x

bethoo none of my cats are insured, when I did the math you have to be really unlucky to have a pet that gets hurt enough to have vet bills that exceed the amount you pay in insurance payments. I have money put aside (gaining interest) to pay for vet bills.

My mum died when I was a kid and I have no family left living in this country, I just can't bring myself to ask my MiL (she means well, but judgemental doesn't do it justice!)that's why I ask you guys all the stupid questions.

Oh Somewhat don't mean to give "pity" but I really feel for you. We're all here to answer your questions and pose a few of our own too!

hi all its been a while since i popped in to say Hii!!

Crumpette finish work if you can as early as you can, Im not having problems as bad as you but work in a shift environment 8 hours on my feet cooking! so boiling hot no fan etc and no chance to sit down at all for 8 hours, am 22 weeks now, so i have chose to leave work at 26 weeks due to owed holiday.

I know we will be skint and probably struggle financially but would much rather have healthy baby than be stressed myself and end up in hospital or ill.

I officially leave work on the 8th October woop!!

By the way scan went fantasic and were having a boy, which i knew all along [grin he has a cute fat tummy and i love him already cant wait to meet him

Overly happy sorry people!!

Hope your all doing good xx

somewhathorrified i came ot that conclusion too. it cost me £723 yesterday to have my dogs tumours removed and after the state of him, drowsy and lethargic, it takes it out of them especially at this age so i have already decided that should a tumour reappear i may leave it, the tumour on his mouth was benign as it took 4 years to get to the size it was and unlikely he will be around for another 4 years should it regrow. he is a bit depressed though aesthetically he is looking much better as he had this tumour poking out his mouth constantly. was very emotional picking him up bless him and had to hand feed him last night he was so exhausted. he has to eat his dry food soaked in water so it is like slush [yucky] but today i got him 2 hotdogs no bread as he would not eat it this morning. he is not a big eater and has lost 5 kilos in the past year so looking very bony and cant seem to put the weight back on. look at me waffling about my dog on an ante-natal thread! sorry ladies as i appreciate not everyone is an animal lover!

my appetite is terrible at hte moment, seem to want to eat rubbish all day! not good for my weight! dare not step on hte scales ever again! none of my regular trousers fit anymore as i have low slung ones which settle under the bump but even now if i do do them up i cant sit down in them! so now havign to admit defeat and through on my maternity ones!

congrats iateallthecreameggsyummy i wonder what the ratio is to boys to girls as i think there are alot more girls this year?

are there I must admit i have not noticed although my sis and sis in law both had girls earlier this year. I knew he was a little boy!

Sorry to read about your dog i didnt read your post before i hope it does not regrow i know how important my dog is to me.

As for clothes ive been in mat trousers for some time and have no idea how much weight i have gained i know i have a big bump and very active baby

Have you all noticed a routine with your little ones sleep patterns and had any panic moments when they have quiet days??

also re stretching tummy muscles has anyone else had really aching muscles like you have done a million sit ups the day before? I wonder if this now means i am properly stretching and will get more stretch marks i already have 3 from when i was overweight before....... How hard are your bumps and do they change through the day??

Im sorry to ask all these questions but dont like to ask midwife as it gets put in my books that i sought reasurance and i worry i will get a name for myself! This is my first pregnancy.

Thanks!!!

dont be silly, you are a first time mum and everything is new and exciting. i loved the movements in my first pregnancy but now i find them uncomfortable, especially when the baby gets bigger and is right under your ribcage so you cant slouch forward anymore! your belly will have days when it goes hard (esp afte orgasm) as the belly starts to tighten and relax to strengthen and prepare for the big day.
if you walk alot or are activethe baby will sleep as the motion rocks the baby to sleep that is why you will notice it more in bed when you are relaxed and more aware of what is going on around you. a sugary cold drink will always get baby moving if concerned. remember that once you get to 26 weeks you should be feelign movements at least 10 times a day and if not contact hops straight away as i was advised by my mw.
your mw will understand that you are still unsure what is normal and not and she will be sympathetic.
but i know how you feel as every time my mw would visit after the birth of my dd she would always state and underline in my notes i had been advised of SIDS etc becasue i chose to put a blanket on my dd when she was a few days old as she was born in Oct and it was freezing in my house, i got paraniod then!

thanks for the info bethoo!

Im getting at least 10 movements on an active day he was very quite couple days ago so i had a dirnk, put my feet up relaxed and then he woke up!

As for bump getting harder this morning i noticed it after an orgasm and gosh id never felt it like that before! Took a few mins to relax again

its hit and miss as for how good the midwives are on the phone some are fantastic and others dont listen to you and give you answers to what you have not asked, ill ask on here in future

How many weeks are you now? Im only 22 although all my e-mails from baby sites say in 23 weeks! How i dont know.......

Id be paranoid about her notes to how daft it was cold!

what's this 'orgasm' that you ladies speak of? haven't had one of those for a looooong time....................

ok ok tmi

anniemac thanks for your post, I have LLB and LPC and they offered me training contract in sept 07, which I started (ie my old job continued but I was finally getting somewhere) then I had to fess up that I was pregnant and suddenly my role was changed to litigated costs and debt recovery stuff, they pretended that my tc was ongoing.. took maternity leave end feb 08, and only went back this year in june, they refused to answer my questions about what role I would have etc on my return and as you know have been ridiculous since I went back and are paying me 2k less than they should, and also the work I am doing, although it's what I was doing when I first started the tc and not the debt recovery stuff, is totally cr*p and I work with complete idiots. I'd say it's a mediumish sized firm, certainly not big magic circle, has a few hundred employees but is only based in London. Also has 2 other trainees atm, one a man and one a (very keen) girl who has been doing hers I went on leave and has nearly finished and is doing lots of litgation and court work atm.

Anyway sorry for the vent, I can see that from their perspective I am not expecially dedicated as I keep having babies lots of women high up in the firm have never had kids and seem to be completely revolted by the idea, but the behaviour of my immediate colleagues is really getting to me and all the nasty comments and issues since I went back this year after what happened with DD are pretty harsh, and my salary is still not updated to what it was before I left. I just know that I wouldn't be able to get a training contract elsewhere very easily, I have a good degree and everything but it will look strange that I started one and worked here for years and then never finished...

aargh to be honest I have been completely put off even completing my training now by the firm I work in, just want to cry

[waaaa]

end vent

PS no idea how to do that CAT thing [retard girl emoticon] x

Hello,

Appointment to mw tomorrow, so we'll see what she has to say about my various aches!
I propose we could all try to update the list on boy/girl/surprise? to look at ratio...
Also I'd love to receive some advices on pushchair/pram , no idea what we should get... to be honest at the moment, I'd like to find something as light as possible as I have had previous back problem...Any recommendations?

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liny I can recommend the Micralite. We bought one when DD was 10 months old (she is now 3.5) and haven't used the M&P pram we bought before she was born since!

We have the original Micralite fastfold which isn't suitable until the baby is about 10 months old, but the new Toro is suitable from birth with the newborn carry cot. A friend of mine has just bought one for her 2nd DD (4 weeks old) and loves it. Its light, easy to fold and a breeze to push. I am working on DH to convince him that we need to replace the M&P with a Toro for this one!

iateallthecreameggs this baby doesn't seem to be moving in any set pattern yet, except at night when I drifting off to sleep. I have days when I don't feel the baby move much and then others when it won't sit still! Don't worry about stretching pains, they will ease.

crumpette sorry you are having such a rubbish time. A friend of mine was all set to do her training and then changed her mind and doesn't regret her decision at all. Perhaps you should put off making any big decisions until you have had this baby, all this stress must be making you feel awful. Vent away, its what we are hear for!

I had micralite toro for DD when she was a bit older, just the buggy version, it was really good but I struggled to get it into the car boot (tiny car! ) Also had quinny zapp base with car seat when she was very little, but mostly used babybjorn carrier for first few months.
I kind of like the apple icandy jogger pushchairs at the moment, they have a lighter version called the cherry I think it's 6 or 7kg. Also the bugaboo bee may be great for you liny as it's small and light and can lie flat from birth.

Sooo...... to continue the vent..... Having had a stern chat with myself and decided to stick it out til mid December (!?) to maximise maternity pay, I left work today in floods of tears, which is very unlike me. Have been officially 'bullied' now I feel bymy immediate colleagues and have been threatened by one of them that to protect their job they will go to management and say 'fire crumpette' and I will lose my job, also had many derogatory comments about my pregnancy and how I don't care about work because I won't be there much longer... etc etc... and I had them say to me 'if you expect to come back after your maternity leave don't count on it as you won't have a job'. I actually feel I'm no longer taking bitchy comments to heart, I am being outright threatened and it's got nasty. Not really what I need at the moment. I am so nice to everyone I suspect they think I will just not say anything. Particularly bitchy colleague has emailed an email about various cases quite frankly framing me,she sent it to management as well, and has deliberately passed files over that I had not finished working on, and says 'crumpette's name is all over these files' and they are missing x,y,and z! well yeah, they were with me until I had a day off for an antenatal appointment!

It feels like I am with the bitchiest bunch of immature schoolgirls ever who are ganging up on me in the playground because I'm better at maths than they are or something! Not sure what to do, considering going in tomorrow and having a discrete word with a member of management team but I feel I shouldn't have to stoop to their level. I was so upset I nearly cried in front of them today, and they left it until the senior staff members in the vicinity had already left the office.

grr

OK vent finished, sorry guys, please ignore it has nothing to do with bump! xxx

discrete discreet? sp?! see I cannot even spell. waaaa waa woe is me!

Crumpette - feel all my protective vibes coming out. I think mid Dec is too long if you are in that situation every day to be honest. I think you need to prioritise getting the hell out of there as soon as you can. What does your DP say ?

hope all is well with everybody else? Sorry I have monopolised this thread with my work dramas, it's not really relevant so I am sorry (but boy is it therapeutic..!)

lottie zurich update please!!! have you moved out of the bachelor pad yet?

sazlocks sorry x-posted... DP thinks I should leave, claim constructive dismissal and go on to benefits

...he doesn't quite get the fact that I'd ideally prefer to avoid WW3 and would like to exit, without crying at my desk every day, and get my maternity pay (only 6 weeks 90% then SMP but badly needed)

bleugh.. dreading tomorrow

Also DP won't let me talk to him about it, his blanket response is the above or 'stop interrupting me I'm watching TV'

helpful guy...!

Well I would say keep posting about it if it will help keep you sane until you can afford to go.
I think that some men ( my DH included) think that they are being supportive if they offer a solution even if you didn't necessarily ask for one. They then get irritated if you don't take up their solution and do what your DP is doing which sounds like the male equivalent of putting his fingers in his ears and singing la la la not listening

Crumpette - dictation machine (digital ones are quiet small and run for hours). record them. Hopefully, they will repeat the comments and you can play back to HR/senior partners. Law firms will recognise just how bad this could be.

And leave early if you can...

thanks sazlocks I think it is keeping me sane!! sorry to bore everyone with it. He is so singing lalala not listening. He has spent the last hour watching masterchef..in silence...

dizzy that's a good idea, I just kind of wanted to ignore them and rise above it but they are making it impossible for me. I was worried that if I said what has really been happening I won't be believed.