Due November 2009 - second trimester thread part 2

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Hello all,
Had my scan today and everything is fine, except we have an awkward baby who wouldn't get in the right positions!
We didn't find out the sex as for me its really not important, we'll love it whatever as I'm sure you all will.

glad you are all getting good results from your scans too.

will try and catch up from the the weekends postings now!

wizziwoo

What a roller coaster ride for you! I'm so pleased its all turning out ok though and you can be prepared for the skin condition and anything else your lo throws at you!

As for pram centres kiddicare have a huge place at Peterborough with loads of prams/pushchairs that they are happy for you to try. They have a good website for you to look at too, you could phone before you go to check what doubles they have in stock. (they close Sundays though)

Wizziwoo - you poor things, what a nightmare for you. Pleased things are heaing in the right direction, fingers crossed they carry on going this way for you. There's a place in York called ' Paul Stride' - has a website, is like an independant mothercare, but a lot more helpful. They were grea in letter us try prams, both pushing & putting them in the car etc. As Tigger suggested i would give them a call to see what they have before you go. They are just off the ring round (near Monks Cross shopping centre) to the Norh/East of York so should be reasonably easily accessible for you.

doh - meant 'letting' not letter (not going all of the other spelling mistakes!)

WizzyWoo you poor thing, what an absolute roller-coaster. How are you in yourself? Gosh, how shocking. At least it seems to be the best outcome and not one of the awful fatal things. Did they speak to you about managing the skin condition? That just sounds unbelievably stressful.

Congrats to all the new scans! And Tamlin and Sleepless congrats on your pink and blue news! I think it is totally understandable to feel slightly disappointed if it is not the other sex. But as others have said, they will be lovely friends and also it's not 'just' another version of your first baby, it's a whole new baby with its own personality etc.

BBL wow, 6 boys!!

Still don't have my blood results to find out if there are antibodies in my blood, which would mean I need the anti-D. Laugs was it you that had all the stress with Rh- and possible Rhesus disease? I am really sorry if it wasn't you. My brain is somewhat limited these days...

Train broke down on way home, stuck in a hot tunnel for 40 minutes, no announcement. YUCK.

wizzywoo so sorry to hear about everything you've been going through. I can't even begin to imagine the stress you've been under. I really hope things settle down now and you can enjoy the rest of your pregnancy (as much as is possible!) fingers crossed that your little boy has the mildest form of the skin complaint, poor little mite.

Congrats to everyone else with positive scans, who else is waiting for there's?

Not much to report here, had a nice day at the beach with ds but am pretty knackered and will not be moving off this sofa until bedtime (in about an hour!!)

katster how yuck for you on the train, not what you need in our condition! Dh is late back again because two trains were cancelled because of the heat fgs!!!

Wizzywoo big hugs to you for going through what you have been through.

Katster oh dear - I think the message someone is giving to you is STAY AT HOME!!!!

Helips oh no - has your DH got back yet? How lovely being able to go to the beach on a day like today

Bedtime for me...

wizzywoo sorry you've been going through so much stress. It is good news thst your baby boy will have the least-bad elements of the condition, but I guess it probably still doesn't feel like that. Poor you for having had all these weeks of worry. I hope you've been able to take it easy.

I live near Newcastle too (Gateshead) but no real advice on pram places I'm afraid - we got ours off ebay...

tamlin and sleepless congrats on your scans and boy/ girl news. tamlin I completely understand. I have a DD and would probably feel a bit strange if I found out I was having another, esp as I know it'll probably be our last and DH has not been backwards in mentioning he wants a son. I think this is part of our reason for not finding out TBH, as obviously once it arrives we will love it completely anyway.

katster it was me with all the RH- stress. I have to have yet another blood test next week to see if my antibody levels have gone down. Been trying to put it out of my mind and assume the best though! You should call the hospital tomorrow if they don't ring you as you have to be given the injection within 72 hrs of the bleed, and at my hopsital they had to order it in, so I had to wait 24 hrs for that (God only knows why they don't keep a store of it). Hopefully no news is good news though.
That stuck train must have been awful! I have been complaining about sitting in the car with no air conditioning/ windows closed (hayfever) for about 10 mins at a time. I am turning into a right moody cow, come to think of it!

Wizzywoo, how bloody frightening for you - I'm so glad you've got a viable baby, but I can understand why you still feel as if you're waiting for a pin to drop.

A woman on another board I visit sometimes has two boys with ichthyosis, and it does seem to be a manageable condition (when not too extreme) - I hope you've found some sort of support group to give you advice on baths etc.

Wizzywoo-What a lot to take in!! I think you would benefit hugely from having a doula to help you afterwards (and maybe even before) if you want to chat about it give me a shout. Email: info at sarahhopewell dot co dot uk

wizzy - poor you, what a rollercoaster of a time. Thinking of you and hoping the rest of the pg goes as smoothly as possible.

SOOO hot here in Kent. Luckily DH went a bit mad in Argos the other day and purchased an excessively large pool for the garden. I wanted just a small paddling pool - easy to empty etc when pregnant, but he came back with a 10foot monster thing. Was a bit cross, but have been forced to admit it's really good - have been sneakily sitting in it when DD in bed. Has been great for all my mindees this week as well. Hope everyone else coping ok with the heat...

So excited about my scan tomorrow. Trying not to worry, as have felt baby moving and kicking so much it will hopefully be ok, but it's so very late on (22 weeks now) that really hope there are no problems. Great news about all the successful scans - feels like we're really getting there!

Anyway, hope everyone has a good day, xx

Lovely to hear about all your scans ladies. I am sure we have lots more to come.

Mummies of the same sex babies ? I am happy with will have one of each as don?t plan any more children so understand very much what you think will be missing etc. BUT BBL you still don?t know do you? AND Tamlin you are only on second so far! I know you said you are not having any more and I know that we certainly couldn?t afford to have any more in foreseeable future but situations change and you might have more, you never know!

Katster [shocked] at your scare and Wizzywoo for your little mite. I hope his condition is manageable and he is going to be just fine. I hope your family is taking it easy on you after all that drama! Not what you need at the moment.

Its not actually that hot today is it? Bit cloudy from where I can see. I threw on a too slightly casual top for office really but I was so hot yesterday, London is just no fun and tube is a NIGHTMARE I just thought ? comfort not smartness is the motto. Hope I don?t look to frumpy, that and flip-flops?of well!

Tabbycat [jealous] of your pool as none here as only have front garden! But away on hen spa weekend and then 2 weekends in Suffolk (friends? house) so hopefully will be able to relax then!

I find that I can?t properly breath (or it feels like it anyway) when I lie down before I go to sleep. Does anybody have that? And have to sleep almost sitting up. I am also really short of breath if I am climbing the stairs or even after short run to catch a train or tube lift for that matter. But it is probably due to putting lots of weight on?.

Ursigurke a lot of flooding in Czech. My parents? house is the first ?unflooded? house in the village so far (as opposed to the ones nearer the river where they use boats to get to houses and gardens?) but not sure how long that will last. There is more raining to come apparently. Also my parents have a tiny stream in their garden that now looks like massive river just about to burst the banks so no fun there!

Wizzy - You poor thing... I'm so sorry to hear you're having to deal with all of this, but am glad that it was the best of the answers they could have given you from the choices. I hope everything works out.

Congrats to all on scan results

Compared to what Wizzy has been through this little rant is going to sound pathetic, but I'm so upset and really down on a low about it.

So I went up to this photo shoot yesterday. My friend had gone, and put my name down on recommendation, so I got it for free, which was why I went. I had to guve them a £40 deposit, but was assured it was refundable. I navigated the tube and the trains all by myself - huge acheievment for me - and got there when it told me to. Had my hair and make up done, then went down to the studios. Absolutely goregous. Did my outfit changes and different poses and everything, really really enjoyed myself. Then I was given a time for coming back to view the photos.

My friend had told me that his pictures had been £30 each to buy, so I figured that it was okay to put another £20 on top of my deposit and buy two.

When I went back, I was offered some champagne, and shown to a comfy room while I waited for the viewer to prepare my shots on the computer. I must confess, I looked beautiful. That's the first time I've said that about myself. I looked amazing. The shots were absolutely stunning; the lighting, the form, the positioning of the camera. I got rid of the ones I didn't like straight away, and nartrowed it down to 27. I wanted to go through them again, though I was pretty sure which two I wanted to buy.

That's when the pressure selling started.

The first quote she gave me was for the 27 imagines in an A4 album - £2500. I nearly chocked. I told her that was quite out of the question.

So then it went down and down till she said that the lowest offer she could give me was the 27 images on a disk and one print - £860.

I said I wanted to buy just one or two, really, and she informed me that they were £90 a shot to buy singularly.

Then I said I wanted to go out and call my Mum - I knew she'd give me the strength to say I didn't want to - and this woman said that either I made the payments we'd discussed - £100 there and then, and £60 p/m for the next year, or I couldn't get any of the images, and she'd just delete them, because they were closing.

So I signed up to it.

I feel so frigging stupid. I was a total coward, I didn't have the guts to turn around and tell her I wasn't happy with that. I came home, and instead of being really happy with my images, I burst into tears. My only income is my DLA, and with the baby coming, there is no way I can afford to pay that for a year. I'm so angry at myself. I never caved to peer pressure. But I guess I'm weaker than I thought

WizzyGosh what a lot of stress you've been under. I really feel for you.
You know maybe that elective C section is not a bad idea. At least it's you have an option so that hands you back a bit of control in your situation.
Keep safe x

[Whispering] I spent £140 at Petit Bateau yesterday! And that was in sale!!! Cannot possibly admit that to dh - could just not justify that. Well of course I can. There is serious need for pink in our house!
Also, have definitely settled on Olivia. The bump is constantly being referred to as Livy now.

Morning all, Good luck to all those with scans today.

Sorry but I'm going to rant!

I'm having a right pain with my midwife unit, back at 16 weeks I had a bleed, I was given a scan and the problem was found, I was told I may bleed again but not to worry but if I did to go to local midwife unit to listen to heartbeat.
So... on Saturday pm I started bleeding but as we were away and I could feel baby moving I decided to wait until Sunday to call midwife, on the way home I call the unit who refused to see me. They told me I had to go into the city (50 mins in other direction from home) anyway after alot of insisting from me they agree to check the heartbeat and do blood pressure on Monday.
Monday am I go into unit and they check baby, everything is fine and the bleeding has stopped, they agreed that it was probably connected to last time but said as my 20 week scan was the next day I should get them to check.
Just as I was about to leave she said "oh by the way as you are now past 20 weeks and have a bleed you can't deliver here anymore, you need to get your gp to refer you to one of 3 city hospitals (I Was 20 weeks 1 day when I had the bleed)
So I phoned my gp who is lovely, she has got me into a different birthing centre (where ds1 was born) and told me to call them for a chat, which I did and they are great, I'm going over to meet them on Friday
Anyway things then get worse
I had my scan yesterday at the old hospital, everything was fine and the site of bleeding has gone.
After the scan we have to wait to see the midwife again, so after another 30 mins wait a really sour face mw calls me in and babbles on about b/f etc she is really rude and snappy at any comments I make. As we are about to go she says she needs to test my urine, so off she goes, 40 minutes later she comes and says I'm going to refer you to a consultant, at this point I panic thinking something terrible is in my urine!
She then says I notice you have had depression in the past so I need to refer you, after a long argument between the 2 of us where I explain my depression started long before my children came along and that I have not had to see consultants before, she snaps and says I have written a referral and I want you to see him next week, she thrusts a bit of paper into my hand and says go to the desk and book it now
So I get up and walk straight out feeling very cross, i've not made an appointment as I don't feel I need it and am just praying that when I see the other midwifes on Friday they don't agree with her. I feel really fed up now and can't wait to transfer my notes over to the other unit (which is also a different county)

Thanks the reading and sorry for going on, feel a bit better now its off my chest.

Erika Call the place back and tell them you have changed your mind, I'm pretty sure that legally they have to give you a 28 day cooling off period, don't be too hard on yourself its easy to give in to these bullies. Ask your mum to help you if you think she may be stronger than you?

Goodness It seems to be a rough few times for some. Am sorry.
Wizzy hope you are ok..it must have been such a rollercoaster ride for you all..I do hope the little mite does have a mild form and its manageable for you and him. Keep us posted.

Tigger what a mare!!! Thankfully you are changing units..let us know what they say on fri..you don't have to do anything you don't want to...Enough to make you very angry.

Erika you're not stupid..just pressured into a situation..can u not cancel the direct debit and send the photos back?

koumak Your secret is safe with us!!!!

Oh no tigger what a nightmare! You must be pleased to see the back of them! Your new unit sounds lovely. I am sure you will get their support.

Erika I am sure what they are doing is illegal. Call them straightaway!

Does anybody know when we need to have next bloods done?

Theres a clause in the agreement - which, funnily enough, she didn't show me until after I'd signed it. It was on the back of what I'd read. - saying that if its signed on the premises I can't back out.

And now four months of not hurting myself has just gone out of the window. I really want to just curl up, go to sleep, and not wake back up right now.

I can't get hold of the local CAB office - by the sounds of things they only have one phone line. They close in half an hour. All the Samartians said was to call them, as well, so now I feel totally usless and helpless. I have therapy at two - but whats the point in going? These people are paid to sit there and "care" for an hour...

Just bookmarking.. Now need to try and catch up!

Wizzy poor thing, how have you coped with all of that stress?! The benefits of this early testing really do cause excess stress on the other hand, don't they? Are you glad that you know about the skin condition now rather than after the birth so you can prepare a bit? SO pleased that the news is good after all that, but still such a lot to come to terms with, especially in the family by the sounds of it. I'm pretty sure there are a few skeletons in DH's family closet which may or may not ever come out - depends on the stimulus I suppose. Rest up and read lots, and lean on us here if you need to. I had a CS last time and did benefit from DH having a few weeks off and my mum being here the week after I got home. Do you have any friends or family who would even be willing/able to travel and stay with you for a bit after the birth? You will need help, not just with the CS recovery but also the baby blues and the full realisation of DS's condition.

koumak sorry to hear about the Czech flooding. we seem to take it in turns for floods/heat waves in the summer, don't we? I think my next bloods are at 28 wks.

Erika get your mum to phone them up and shout at them for taking advantage of a young pregnant woman who can't possibly pay extortionate fees for what was meant to be a freebie photo shoot. Get her to mention Watchdog and ask them if she'd like to put her complaint in writing, Cc-ing Watchdog. That usually gets them co-operating in my experience. What a bunch of fleecing ba***s, as my DH would call them.

It's ROASTING here today (I heard 26 degrees or so) and we haven't been out of the paddling pool all day. I really feel for you guys down south who have to put up with hotter weather and no pools! This temperature and humidity is about my limit

Off to pack for holidays, not sure how often I'll get to check MN for the next 3 weeks or so, but I'll try to pop in and read recent posts. I hope that everyone keeps well in the meantime, especially those with ongoing issues with bleeding/baby/MW/hospitals. Will be thinking of you.

Erika Does this help?
A trader acts aggressively
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whether the trader has used threatening or abusive language or behaviour
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If you think a trader is acting aggressively, you should report them to Consumer Direct
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