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The wagon rolls onto to York for brownies at Betty's...10 boys & 7 girls and still more to come!!!

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GYo · 21/05/2009 02:34

new thread!!!!!!!

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bumpsnowjustplump · 04/06/2009 15:33

Which one kayzr?

Kayzr · 04/06/2009 15:36

It's been deleted now. The first thread I have posted on that has been deleted too.

Someone was being horrible about Psycho. I just don't get why some people on MN have to start these threads just to bitch about other posters!

bumpsnowjustplump · 04/06/2009 15:47

Because they are sad and need to feel good about themselves but the only way they can do that is to put someone else down.... idiots

Diege · 04/06/2009 15:59

Hello! SES, agree wiothy others, if paed gives you all clear, then I would certainly stop the weigh-ins. To have the thought of frequent weigh-ins hanging over you deson;t ehlp anyone, and it certainly sounds like things are absolutely fine.
LB, don't blame you for the nappies - not long until bedtime now!
SORKY, yes, the older 2 (7 and 6) are certainly finding it harder to drop of (twas 10ish a night ago) although that may be to due with the heat. I have kept the routine the same (up the stairs by 7 for all 3)but I'm happy to let the older 2 read for a bit (out of sight and all that!). Re: morning, it's any time around 6-7am, but has always been that time really - bloomin black out blinds don't seem to stop the early morning sun!
Glad concert went well TINKS!! Bet you're tired after your late night! I have an inkling that the verbaudet furniture will gradually be getting replaced
Well all fine at the midwife (apart form the dig at the doula that I ignored). Have oedema on feet, hands and on bottom of bump , but blood pressure fine so no concerns. Still head down!!!! Fingers crossed he's getting so heavy now that he won't move again, although she's said not to expect baby to engage until labour starts. Meeting with doula good too - she only flinched slightly when I mentioned not wanting a natural third stage, so I think she's getting the idea .Must not give birth this weekend as she's in Bristol!

sorky · 04/06/2009 16:58

What was the gist of the thread Kayz? She's fab is psychomum

Diege why no natural 3rd stage? Curious.

Glad you had a nice time at the concert. I buy furniture for kids from Ikea or Next, would send table back and ask for refund.

LB how you holdin up?

Is anyone watching the jobs enter the BB house tonight? I hate the show, but Dh likes the entry night so will be watching tonight only.

Wonder how Ses got on?

Glask I got your card, thank you

Dd2 is in cloth nappies. I'm so chuffed, she isn't weeing & pooing half as often so I thought I'd try again today.
I'm off to visit Flame for girly woolly goodness and possibly matching t-shirts

Diege · 04/06/2009 17:14

Ooh SORKY what's this 'Flame' you speak of?? An on-line shop? Will also be watching BB launch night, and then the odd eviction night.
Re: third stage, tbh just not especially bothered about the placenta - happy to have synometrin (?). If there's any benefit to baby though that you know of would be interested. I am going to wait for the cord to stop pulsating before dh cuts it though - mw looked at me as if I'd suggested eating my own placenta but I can see the benefits of that re: blood flow to baby etc so happy with that.
Having stupid paranoid moment here (as tis usual following any appointmenrt for me). Every time I see mw she asks me (when examining me) when I'm next 'at the hospital', and every time I tell her I'm not, and that I've been signed off for mw care. My rational side tells me that she's just making conversation, but then I have this irrational worry that she's discovered something so bad that she can't tell me and wants it to come from them . I'm being mad aren't I?? Or maybe not??
Just had text from friend who went in to have baby today (section) - baby boy, and all well. Really pleased for them as they've had several years of IVF, and the babies will be in same nursery, and then school. Feel strangely that it's all over for her!Right, better get tea ready - sorry for the self-obsessed waffling !

sorky · 04/06/2009 17:22

Flame used to be Flamesparrow a MNer with an online cloth nappy store (and acoutrements). Her store is called Bumfluffnappies.com.
I do love babies in cloth nappies.

No, no especially good benefits with 3rd stage. Just avoidance of drugs I suppose.
M/w are funny creatures aren't they? I suspect she was maikng convo Diege tbh.
I find they don't do small talk very well, unless they've discovered something curious up your foof and then you can't shut them up!

Well, today I've done pretty good. Don't know where the energy came from, but I've got the washing done and put away ('cept ironing) really cleaned all upstairs (pull out furniture job)
Just need to sort tea and then I'm collapsing for the night

Kayzr · 04/06/2009 18:11

Sorky, this person was moaning about Psycho's posting style saying it was attention seeking. I don't come across Psycho very often but when I do she either is making me laugh or giving very good advice!

sorky · 04/06/2009 18:16

the nob

ta Kayz.

Diege · 04/06/2009 18:18

Though this is from someone who dusted around the objects on matelpiece today .
Yes, think you're right about mw's and their personalities . I'm sure if she'd had any concerns I'd have been referred, if only to cover her own back. I used to be so easy going and not really worry about much medical, but have found this pregnancy quite difficult to relax through, possibly because of mmc last summer. Anyways, just a few more weeks then I can start obsessing about the baby
Have looked at Flame website - love the range of nappies, v.cute, though was intriqued by brocade outer-coating sanitary towel?? Or is it a breast pad?

SesHasFinallyBecomeAMum · 04/06/2009 18:26

Phew!!! Just home from hospital and am knackered!!

Had a nurse, a SHO and a registrar all look at him and find nothing wrong. They did a few blood tests (poor little mite was like a pin cushion as one in his hand, two in his right heel and one in his left heel). Registrar said as long as he doesn't drop below his current centile (9th) then he's not overly worried.

BF counsellor came by and did decide that he has a slight tongue tie though which she and the registrar decided could be snipped next Tues. I've decided to get it done as I don't think doing it can really do any harm and he doesn't seem to be able to stick his tongue out hugely far.

Registrar has also asked me to express and give 45ml four times a day. BF counsellor agreed that this might be a bit much to expect and said it took her a week initially to be able to express enough for one feed!

We've compromised on agreeing to give 30-45ml of EBM after an evening feed. She got me to try their electric Medela pump and I got 30ml out after having fed DS so there can't be too much wrong with my production! Came home via Boots and got an electric Medela pump.

That's my update anyway! Will go and catch up on everyone else now...

Diege · 04/06/2009 19:08

Hi SES! Bet that visit has taken it out of you! Lots of trashy telly and a take-away for you tonight . It does sound as if they've been very thorough though, and fingers-crossed the ebm will do the trick. Tbh, I'm not sure there's anything that needs doing anyway - your ds sounds the picture of health!

SesHasFinallyBecomeAMum · 04/06/2009 19:22

Thanks Diege
We've already decided on take away!
Don't think DH will watch BB so may sky+ it!
Meant to say also, they weighed him again today and he's put on another 20g in 24hrs. Not a lot I know, but it all helps and after me being ill last night, made me feel relieved that it hadn't affected DS.

Really don't worry about your MW talking about next hospital visit. I'm sure it's just foot in mouth syndrome on her part. All getting v close for you

GruffaloSoldier · 04/06/2009 20:05

Hey all

Sorry I havent been on much but mum is down from scotland for the week - she is going back saturday so I am making the most of her! She has cleaned my home from top to bottom, cooked me amazing meals and been such a help with Griff cub and his colic. I'm going to miss her! Not to mention her buying me a new summer wardrobe as im not back in my clothes yet and has bought GC loads too - we are truly spoilt!

Anyway - Diege - I can't believe its nearly that time for you! So excited and love the name Jacob!

Ses - hope that they all get off your back soon and leave you and DS to it!

oh and im def up for mini meet up!

gYO - GC is out of swaddle now - tuck him up in a sheet and he doesnt bother at all in fact in hot weather he has been sleeping in vest and no covers at all ! im sure you will be fine but you could always just start off doing it in daytime and then move to nightime. could do same with cot

i saw britney a few yrs ago and show was great but was disappointed that she only did 1 song live!! hope you still have a fab time jules - im sure you will!

my birthday 25th june!will be 26!

LB sorry for bad night last night - i didnt have good one either - gc was v.colicky which is not usual for him!

Sorky - cloth nappies sound fab - have fun with flame - i have some from nappy lady to try but with gc's colic i would not keep up with the washing. if it goes at 3months when everyone says it will i might be more inclined to try them out.

kayz - great about the car.

glask - great about the neighbours.

ok - sorry for everyone ive missed - will be a better wagoner from saturday hopefully!

Starshinetiger · 04/06/2009 20:39

Hi All, just a quick post, as I think I may need to get an early night - DD fed and fell asleep at 6pm, woke at 7.10pm, fed and gone back down in cot!! Fear for the night ahead of us (Plus, DS is really ill with cough and cold - temp at 99/37.5 this evening and fell asleep during his first story at 6.40pm - unheard of), imagine there will be some bed swapping going on tonight again in the Star househould (was like musical beds last night, what with getting up to DD and then DS needing to come into our bed with DH - I ended up in DS' bed from 5am this morning!)

BNJP - so sorry for continued sickiness. I wouldn't worry too much about the time before feeding after giving meds - if that makes sense?! Just give them a little time to work if you can. Now, I am only saying this as you asked....
I am not a medical professional and don't want to contradict one, especially as I haven't seen your DS, but as you asked my opinion, I will share with you what I know from experience about dairy intolerance - it does not necessarily manifest itself as eczema, especially in bf babies. My sister and cousin both had dairy intolerance (as does DS), but did not have eczema - just sickness and squitty nappies. With DS, eczema did not come out until he was weaned. So, if you want to keep going with bf and you think it's worth a shot, you could cut out all dairy from your diet and wait at least a week to see if there are differences - if it is dairy intolerance you should see the sickness reduce (because of reflux, it won't disappear totally). You will have to cut it out of your diet totally - this means no milk in your tea, no butter, yoghurt, cheese, no foods which have dairy in them (I am being particularly pedantic here, as i've seen threads where people ask "can I still have milk in my tea?"). It will need time to clear your system and not be going into your milk - hence the need to wait a week before expecting to see results. It is absolutely a personal thing whether you want to go down this route and give it a shot. I know it's not what you want to hear, but the difference with my DS came when we first started top up bottles morn and eve (although it was hypoallergenic formula, so it may have been that, which made the difference) and then at 18 weeks went totally onto formula. But every baby is different and you need to go with whatever makes you happy - you are doing fabulously, it is bloody hard work with a baby and toddler even without the reflux. I really hope you get a better night tonight. I really hope what I write is helpful, give me a shout on fb if you want to talk directly.

Diege - did I mention that tomorrow is a fab day for a Birth Day?! Don't worry about mw - as Ses/Sorky(?) said - they're not good at small talk (or remembering much about you as a person in my experience) - she probably forgets you're on midwife care!

Jules - glad Britney was good.

Kayz - yay for car.

GYo - We've just gone from one arm out to two arms out, as DD was wanting to soothe herself on her fingers (she likes to get her right hand fingers in her mouth and hold them in with her lefthand - not sure what's wrong with a thumb myself!). Also, I was sleeping in her room next to her cot since she went in her cot, until 2 nights ago, but have moved back in with DH and just get up to her feeds now (we do have a rocking chair in her room) - I felt I was disturbing her unnecessarily by being in her room - anything to help her sleep better! Think it's a personal thing - with DS I had the monitor on right next to my head every night until he was about 5 months old when we forgot to take it to my Mum's and realised we could actually hear him if we needed to without it!

Gruff - good to "see" you back - sounds lovely having your Mum to stay.

Ses - glad you're not worried about weight and appt went well - think you should just relax and get on with it. DD has been sticking like glue to 9th centile and is perfectly healthy (well, you know what I mean!) - they have different centiles for a reason and 1.5oz in 48 hours is entirely normal!

Waves to LBOT, IDOB, Sorky, Kooky (sorry for anyone I've missed).

Starshinetiger · 04/06/2009 20:43

P.S. BNJP - I was determined that DD would not have intolerance, so ate chocolate and cheese in my diet to start with as normal, so it all went into my expressed milk. When I started feeding her myself, she was sicky and had horrid, huge yellow nappies. I cut dairy out and the sickness really reduced - so am 8 weeks no dairy no - is a killer as would love chocolate, but her weight gain started when I cut it out and I know it's better for her. When we were in GOSH and she was not digesting her milk properly (she was being tube fed and they used to draw back to see if any left in the stomach), I asked the nurse if it could be an intolerance and she said that it wouldn't be, as they could still be sick while being tube fed - she didn't mention anything about eczema!

sorry for long posts

bumpsnowjustplump · 04/06/2009 21:07

Star thanks for the advise and I am going to give that a go (will try anything to help him). I have been told not to have soya milk as it contains female hormones so what milk substitute can I drink that will pass on enough calcium to ds through my milk?

bumpsnowjustplump · 04/06/2009 21:13

I am off for an early night tooo as I feel like crap now..

Kayzr · 05/06/2009 04:17

Hello!

DS2 woke up at 3 for the first time in ages! I now can't get back to sleep and I have had to get up!!

Kayzr · 05/06/2009 05:16

I just want to cry. MIL had the boys yesterday and she got DS1's hair cut!! He was asleep when he got home so went straight to bed. He has just woken up and it is shorter than we wanted it. I suppose it grows back.

bumpsnowjustplump · 05/06/2009 07:59

sorry about MIL kayz what a bitch.

I have also been up since 3. With a crying pukey baby. I am in tears at the moment. I cant cope with it all, and am fed up of doing it all on my own!! I vowed i would enjoy every second as owen will be my last but i am not, i hate it and sit here wishing his baby months away... How bad is that!!

DP doesnt help, he is taking on overtime every day and says they are playing up because i am stressed. He then tells me to call his mother (like fuck will I) He thinks I am over reacting because he is never alone with owen he doesnt understand how bad it gets. Already this morning i have got to strip and wash my bed covers, do the same to owens, wash the three sets of pj's for both of us and clean carpet in bedroom because it is covered in sick. It is all I smell all day long. And to top it off owen just puked up his meds before i had time to feed him...

so sorry for me me post..

GYo · 05/06/2009 08:39

Morning

LB- sorry for such a bad night and it seems really unfair that your DP isnt being very helpful. How can DS play up, he is only tiny?

Do you have anyone else who could take DD for the day or a few hours? Or even just do some washing for you. Sorry- is probably a really obvious suggestion.

Wish we could all help you more.

Kayz- sorry about the MIL and hair, I'd be livid!

Nice weather gone here. DH has gone to do the 3 peaks challenge this weekend so Im home alone with DD for the first time for more than one night.

Mum coming to visit today, really hope DD doesnt scream at her like she did last time!!

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GYo · 05/06/2009 08:42

LB- sending you over a steaming mug of tea and round of hot buttered toast.

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sorky · 05/06/2009 08:46

Oh LB
Stars' advice seems very sound. I wish I was nearer to you and you know I'd be there in a shot

Soya milk is fine LB, I haven't had cow's milk for 15 years' now. My kids have never had cows' milk.
The female hormone is not a human hormone. It's a plant hormone called phytoestrogen and they are thought to have protective benefits from cancer.
The likelihood of it coming through your milk is super-tiny.

I feel for you being left with some stark choices surrounding both your and ds's diet. Poor little mite is heading towards 4 month old and if anything it sounds as if it's getting worse!
I can't believe the Paeds aren't doing more

sorky · 05/06/2009 08:48

GYo baby-sorky screams as soon as my mum takes her too.

Kayz! all that gorgeous hair? those curls? you need to say something to her this time, it's bloody assault! that's what it is

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