The wagon rolls onto to York for brownies at Betty's...10 boys & 7 girls and still more to come!!!

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new thread!!!!!!!

Morning all,

This weather is amazing! Posting from laptop in garden . Who needs to go abroad if we are going to have a summer like this?

Moos - big slap for insensitive DH. Having had horrendous sickness and nausea I know how bloody horrific it is and comments like that really really don't help. Big hugs...

Ses - can totally understand why you were upset. You are DS' mummy and if anyone is going to decide to give him a dummy it should be you not anyone else. As for feeling fat, you are not alone. I have squeezed into some black linen trousers today and with the button and zip done up tis rather tight!

Diege - I actually thought the paper pants were ace. Thought I would hate them and didn't pack in bag but ran out of knickers at hospital and DH went and bought some and they were pretty cool! (I know, I'm a weirdo!) I just didn't realise how much blood you lose and so it meant not ruining lots of pairs of pants.

Right back to the sun. xx

Hi COSMO! I also love paper pants, much more satisfying to chuck in bin and strangely comfortable too (though def not sexy which can only be a GOOD THING
SES, so you dh has been quite adament that you should lose the weight asap??? I think I would rip his throat out for that alone. Obviously he has 'ishoos' with his own weight, but you have to be strong here and tell him exactly how you feel; don;t let it go down the hormone route either - nothing to do with them, just respect issues.I am feeling on your behalf!

Ses- how annoying. Hope you get it sorted with DH. I'd feel the same about it, especially hard with house guests. As for the wt comments thats just out of order.

Hi cosmo tink and kayz

DH came back from the airport and I tried talking to him.
It seems he really is frustrated that he can't be involved with feeding which he sees as the main way of settling DS and making him feel better. I suggested that we needed to think about what was right for DS rather than ourselves and that I wasn't inisisting on BF just to be pig headed. He said that he knew that. I explained why I was upset about coming downstairs to see DS with the soother and he said he didn't realise it was that big a deal and wanted to make some decisions himself.

I've now told him that I'm not saying "no" to the soother just that I want him to be aware that - for some stupid reason that I don't understand - I find it difficult.

I've also looked on a couple of internet sites re use of soothers. Most of them talk about not using them if BF until 4-6 weeks and also sterilising them. How frequently do you sterilise them and until they are what age?

Anyway, DS has been settled on DH for at least half an hour now (without soother!)

hi

too hot!!! hate the sun and heat

popp[ed to town after dhs parents went bought eco disposable nappies to dry 100% biodegradable

bought deer toy box to go with brackens shelf

buying dd2 leapfrog leapster next month for xmas looks great

oh no ses men!!

I have four dummies and sterilise them quit often having said that I dont use them that much as dd isnt fussed. Only when out in her pram sometimes it helps her to nod off, so i usually use a clean one if the first one gets knocked on floor. I will re use it if it just falls out of her mouth in the pram.

Im afraid i dont go for the lick it yourself and give it back to them approach... but thats me

Re age to use them, at first they seemed to make her latch lazy, like the bottles did, but she has got over that it seems.

Glad you got to talk to DH about it... did you bring up the weight discussion? you are doing fab! FWIW, im not back in pre preg clothes except some jeans that were already too big. I've not really lost anymore since posting that I only had 6lbs to lose!

We only own 1 atm as it came with our steriliser! Useful to know what others do though. How old was DD when you first used one?

I did mention his comments about my weight and he said that he was making similar comments about his mum and sister, which to be fair, he was. (Not that that makes the comments nice or right!) I guess I've always been a bit sensitive about my weight and probably more so atm. I just have to remind myself it is only 3 weeks! Also, DH is overweight himself to the extent that I don't think our Babasling would fit him...!

Hi SES, glad you had a chat! Did you ask dh about his own weight issues?
Re: using soothers, I've always used from day 1 (didn;t effect dd1's latch - she was the only one of the 3 bf). DD1: sterilised and remember taking spare sterilised one out in bag); dd2, threw in the steriliser when doing the bottles, but wasn't too precious, esp in difficult situations (ie. screaming on public transport); dd3, threw in steriliser from time to time but generally rinsed under tap when fallen on floor and put back in! Even recall the odd dip in glass of coke moment when needs overtook rational brain (always did the job ). I think I would have rung social services if I had seen that when I just had dd1

Hi GYO and TINK!

Hmm trying to think. We tried the dummy very early on, prob about 2wks when she was v unsettled but she didnt take it. tried again about about 4 or 5wks with more success. Now she will have it on her terms

TBH, I am not a massive fan of them but we think she is destined to be a thumb sucker though(was doing this about 20mins after being born!) so we were trying to prevent that by trying with the dummies, but im not sure it can really be prevented. She still shoves her whole hand in when she is tired/hungry!

Quite shocked at your DH and the wt comments to all three of you! suprised he didnt get it in the neck from his mother and sister too! You arent being over sensitive. Post baby wt is really hard as its hard to accept that your body takes time to get back to normal. Im struggling a lot with not being as slim as I was before getting pregnant but Im sure I will get there eventually. So long as I can wear my suits when I go back to work in December I will be happy.

Question for the wagoners, does that loose saggy tummy ever actually go, or does it need A LOT of hard work at the gym? and what about the brown line? mine is still there!

Hi Diege

PMSL about dipping in coke!

(I really am PFB with DD... actually quite proud of it given that I was the most unatural person ever with babies before giving birth!!)

Reckon I will be spinning number 2 around by his or her feet before they are 2mths old

Whilst I am at it with the multiple posts...

Nat, are you lurking? Anyone heard from her? If you are reading hope all is ok with you.

Moosy- are you feeling better this evening? Hope the pains have passed. Has DH been grovelling?

Star- how are you doing with DD? hope things are going ok.

I was wondering that about saggy tummy too! Also my brown line only appeared after DS was born. I thought if you got one it normally appeared during pg?? I guess I may be wrong!

The thing about DH is that he often makes these comments - mot just to me. He does it in a kind of tongue in cheek way and normally people just laugh it off as we know he doesn't mean anything by it.

DS has been feeding/sleeping on me most of the afternoon. DH has decided to do us a bbq this evening so is outside getting it lit!

I've not said any more about his weight but I will. It's an additional thing tbh to the conversation I had with him earlier in the week about his blood pressure. In the last few weeks he's had a couple of nose bleeds and a burst blood vessel in his eye. All of these are signs of high blood pressure so I got him to check it on our home monitor and he's averaging 140/110 which is not good! How do I nag him to go to the doctor without sending his BP higher?! He has told me he'll go on Friday...

LOL GYo

I'd also been wondering about Nat. Hope all's as well as is possible.

Enjoy your bbq Ses!

DH doing roastbeef here

Hope your DH is ok re his BP.

oh about the brown line, may have been there before birth but just not visible due to the stretched skin.

Mine is wonky! no idea how that happened!

Afternoon all,

Thank you all for the brownies and sympathies earlier, spent the morning in bed then went to my parents' house for lunch/afternoon/tea so am feeling quite well rested! DH had been working all day in his workshop which is at their house so he came in at lunch time. Nothing has been said but we're ok, the air is clear!

Ses at your DH, they really don't think before they speak do they?

I've never used dummies so don't any advice/wisdom I'm afraid.

Hope everyone's been enjoying the sunshine more than me (I've been lying inside all day!), but NOBODY mention BBQ's or I'll vom on you!

My brown line is wonky too! It goes straight down but skirts neatly around my tummy button. It pretty much went but is starting to come again already. I think it took a couple of months to fade.

My tummy never went back how it used to be, there's more skin and it's a bit wrinkly where there are stretch marks. Also my tummy muscles are knackered so that doesn't help! If I pull my tummy in then it's just the extra skin left so maybe if I worked hard on it I could get it to stay like that. One day. Maybe.

Well I can kind of see it from your Dh's end Ses. I wonder whether it's more to do with making decisions about his son himself, feeling a part of everything, as he has been a bit frustrated with obv not being able to BF iirc.

For me it wouldn't be an issue (mine isn't lucky enough to be a pfb), missing first steps, giggles and words is a biggie, having a soother, not so much.
That's just my tuppenceworth, no offence intended.

The weight issues are a whole other ball game tho

I never got a linea nigra so can't help, my stomach usually goes back to nice and toned with a good bit of work at about 6 months. I find Pilates and runnng a great combo. I'm heavier now than I was just after I had Dd2 which is bugging me, but I know it'll come off when she stops nightfeeding, until then I feel fat

Sorky - that's exactly how it is for DH. He's been making half joky comments this evening about how I don't trust him with DS. Not true at all but I can see why he's now thinking that. Just a shame I have an unexplainable issue with the soother.

We had a nice bbq though and I took the soother outside for DS and tried it again. He didn't take to it though...

Anyway, I'm sure I've taken up enough of your time with this silly stuff...!

Re his BP, I think I just need to say once and clearly that he needs to get it checked this week and I hope he will. I'm sure they will tell him to lose weight...

Ah that's cool Ses. If I'm honest when I look back at my first foray into motherhood I'm amazed I made it to 4, I was so nervous and scared..... about everything!

You lot amaze me, you all seem so confident and natural. I was useless until no 3

Glad everyone had lovely days in the sun ('cept Moos).

If anyone knows how to stop a baby feeding every hour from 1am onwards I will happily pay for their advice

Sorky, I am sure you have tried this but if you co-sleep can DD2 feed while you sleep? DS2 used to be able to latch on while I was asleep so didn't wake me up much.

For some reason Kayz I'm waking up too much when she feeds. I think I might try putting her in her crib by Dh so she isn't conveniently close to me iyswim, he can lift her out when she wakes.
I'm finding it hard the next day if I'm honest, I hope she goes back to waking once soon.
Anyone have any clue why she's been doing this since week 12?

It sounds like a growth spurt but they don't normally last this long. Could she be doing it for comfort rather than for milk?