Due May '09 - wave your bum in the air, like you just don't care !

[Tummum]

Here we go !

Looby Not a problem at all, feel free to text me anytime!

Why is my 2 1/2 year old being hormonal today???!!!! One minute shes happy and giggling the next shes screaming and crying! I had hoped she wouldn't get to this stage for another 10 years or so!

ARGHHHHHHH ! ! ! !

choc i know you said she slept till 7.30... but my guess would be either a growth spurt? or coming down with something?

ds gets hungry all the time when building up for a growth spurt then sleeps far more than his norm and goes off his food when it happens...

chocolate I have a 3 year old teenager. It must be a girl thing.

Just been swimming and have absolutely run out of steam. Had to go to supermarket to pick up a pizza for babysitter tonight, and ended up buying stuff I didn't need because I was starving and close to fainting. Ended up eating 3 hotcross buns in the carpark. Eating nice homemade Low GI bean soup with cheese to compensate anyway.

I didn't get to see the post-natal wards on my visit (due to the MW telling us the wrong times) and wasn't prepared for the fact that i wouldn't get any sleep at all due to one or more babies crying through the night. One woman just left her baby to cry (think she must have been in shock/overwhelmed) until eventually the MW told her to pick it up and check nappy, hunger etc.

It just reminded me of when I read my hospital notes which said that i had said that i hadn't slept all night but that they checked on me and i was snoring ++ loudly ! I was adamant that it must have been the very snory lady in the next bed that they had heard but maybe i did drop off for a few minutes .

I am lucky that one of the perks of having an elcs at my hospital is that after the first night, they move you to a private room (if there is one free). That was so much better than my previous experience.

When I had my DD, i was in a 4-bed ward for 4 nights and I'm sure that was why my blood pressure wouldn't come down! In the end, I discharged myself as I couldn't take any more (and didn't fancy spending new year's eve there!) and sure enough, the next day at home when the MW visited, my BP was fine.

Looby 3 syringes sounds enough to me. It's way more than I managed to express after Harvey arrived (and obviously I hadn't expressed any beforehand), though he did lose quite a bit of weight initially. I did agree to giving him 10ml formula top up from a cup on the first night following the mw's reasoning that he didn't know what a full tummy felt like so didn't know what he was missing IYSWIM. It didn't affect him breastfeeding at all.

Lasinoh is good stuff btw

I did think maybe she was coming down with something, BUT, shes just looked at me, done the whole head to one side trying to be cute look, and asked if we can go to the pub! I had a mouthful of tea at the time and managed to squirt it everywhere! Its not the kind of question you expect from a 2 year old! Felt like saying yes ok, if your buying!lol! Says alot about my parenting doesnt it lol! We DO NOT take her to the pub regularly, we happended to go for tea there on Monday and she loved it!

I had a nightmare of a time on post-natal ward, which is one of the reasons I want a home-birth this time, I was put in a ward with 4 beds, howeve, they put me on the wrong bed, when we rolled into the ward, the bed they wanted to put me in wasnt there, so they stuck me on the otherside of the room, and proceeded to forget I even existed, because I wasn't where I was supposed to be! People coming in an looking in the empty space then walking out again, me in the opposite corner with no-one checking on me or madi for 24 hours, nobody came to tell me where the loo's etc were, where I had to get food, i had to ask the other people on the ward, nobdy came to offer me water to drink or even any pain relief! Until the next day when I said 'erm I was supposed to go home after 6 hours, yesterday!' Then followed panic from everyone! I guess at the time, I was naive and didnt know what i was supposed ot expect postnatally, not to mention I hadnt had any slepp for over 48 hours leading up to it!

i've been saving for a private room for after lo's birth this time. ds's emcs birth i was in a 4bed room and although i found the other ladies & babies no prob... it was the comings and goings of all the staff and visitors i found hard. The hospital we're going to this time has a few... some are just a room £50, then room with a bath £75 and room with a shower £150!!! I'll be happy with just a room with a bath or room on its own. Just got to hope one is available...

the weather is grotty here today... so seeing as my sainsbury's order has arrived we're going to make cup cakes... should keep ds occupied for a short time and then we can ice them later and have nice munchies

I ended up a with a private room last time because I developed an infection and I think they wanted to minimise any contact I might have with anyone else! Additionally, DS needed phototherapy and I think they thought we'd disturb others less on our own.

I did like being on my own as DS had to be woken up every few hours from under the lamp and fed. But I did find it a bit lonely, too, as I didn't get to know anyone on the ward. I wasn't looking for a best friend, just someone to pass the time with whilst caring for DS.

Hi again every1,
MRI is booked for sunday at midday!!??!! wat a stupid time, she gets to miss the only substantial meal they serve all day on the ward.
Patient generally not happy, bored, frustrated & would really like to sleep in her own bed.
We're still not sure whether or not they will even let her home before the birth. She will be crawling up the walls by then if they do keep her in 13 days to go....
Roll on nxt weekend and moving to the spangley new hospital, rooms with double beds n everything apparently!
I have passed on all your messages, little things help make smiles

Hope your all ok

Mr J xxx

llare iswym re feeling a bit lonely in a room on your own. I thought about that this time too. In the end i figured i'd prefer to have my own space this time to try to sleep and rest as much as pos before going home to ds also when he does come to visit it will be a lot easier to contain him within a single room rather than a ward. I can just imagine his comments if i'm in a ward... who's that lady mummy?, that baby is loud/noisy, what's this? etc mind you might be fun but maybe a bit much for any 1st time mums trying to get to grips with new motherhood let alone toddler motherhood

mr jael thanks for the update.. our local hospital also does the main meal at lunchtime... although i know when i was on the wards they would keep a meal for you if you were unable to eat it when they 1st came round due to examinations/procedures etc... worth asking as the sandwich they provide later will definitely not be enough for anyone let alone a hungry heavily pregnant bored and frustrated patient. If they do indeed keep jael in she will be desperate to get out by the time the baby comes. From my experience last time of being in for a week prior to DS and then 10days after I couldn't wait to get out. DH was also exhausted from all the travelling to/fro the hospital and endless errand running for snacks/baby things etc. it was so good to eventually get home but also a bit strange and i then kinda missed the MW's etc

I didn't like to say it, as i know i was lucky to have my own room, but i also felt a bit isolated. I was desperate each morning waiting for DH to arrive after dropping DD at nursery. We are lucky that we live 15 mins walk/5 mins drive from the hospital so it is easy for DH to come and go, although parking is a nightmare...

Mr Jael thanks for the update. Send big hugs to Jael - I can imagine how she must be feeling, poor thing. She must really be missing your DD too. Is she in the maternity unit? I ask because I spent a good few days myself there recently so I can certainly appreciate how grim it feels! Am of double beds - hope she gets one if she does have to stay in.

llareggub I had the same thing & being on my own did make the 3 hour routine much easier. Company-wise, fortunately I'd got talking to a woman on the post-natal ward whilst I was there (coincidentally, my Dad used to work with her DH) who was kept in a similar length of time so we chatted at meal times etc. I did feel guilty though because shortly after H developed his jaundice her DD had some problems with dehydration & she had to be bf-ing, expressing, and topping up with both EBM & formula every few hours - and she was kept on the ward

chocbunnies at them neglecting you like that! I had something similar when I got moved to the room on my own, as it turned out they didn't really use that room for patients as it was next to the midwives' office where they did handovers each change of shift, and I could hear everything they were saying. Did hear a couple of stories but I shall be good & not repeat them! However, it was good to hear them talking about my case in a non-sanitized way, and H's blood test results as they came through rather than when they had the time to talk to me. I know it's not really the way it should be but I preferred to know what was going on.

Hi all. lovely day here, hope the same where you are.

MrJael, thanks for the update and give a big hug to Jael, bless her, hope she doesn't have to stay in for as long as you think.

chocobunnies, can't believe the neglect you experienced, appalling.

on postnatal ward: my last experience i was in a double room with toilet. ok but other lady was a smoker and kept going out for long smoke breaks while her baby would fuss that would turn into crying/yelling. so i had to go comform the wee new baby girl otherwise, I would have gone mad since i had had so little sleep and was trying toget used to my own little one.

wonder how belgian is getting along?

oh, and good idea about mobile nos. I'll post mine as well.

oh, and good idea about mobile nos. I'll post mine as well.

I know, was bad huh! I was only 19 at the time aswell, had no idea what I was doing, just had to guess, it was just added to the long list of things that went wrong during Madi's hospital birth, like the fact I didnt get to hold her til at least 2 hours after she was born! Will not be allowing that mistake to happen again!

Madi has calmed down now and gone for a nap, thank god!

Feel free to text me momino

Eugh I've gone right off food at the moment, anyone else?

chocobunnies, was off food for awhile until this week have re-gained my appetite. you may get it back in a few weeks (in time for wedding?).

will text you when I find my mob!

choc i'm not going back to my last hospital for similar but different reasons. I hardly saw any mw's after my cs when i got to the ward. They didn't even bother to explain that there was a feeding/wet nappies/poo nappies sheet i was supposed to be filling out. I asked the lady in the next bed what she was filling out and found out that way! I transferred to my local w-s-m mw led unit as soon as i could escape the hospital as i felt so unsupported there and they made me feel like having me there was an inconvenience as they were so short staffed and over worked.

& yes totally gone off meals too. Glad it's not just me!

have posted my mobile # on our fb group too... feel free anyone to make a note of it

mrjael - thank you for the update. Very best best wishes to jael, and fingers crossed that she is allowed out soon.

Looby - I'm not anywhere near Hereford now, but I know it really well! I was born there, and had close family there until quite recently. Was brought up in Wales but only an hour or so from Hereford, it was the best place to go shopping! Anyway, no use at all to you. Hope everything goes really well for you and looking forward to hearing exciting news!

Re postnatal wards - I had to stay in for two nights after DD was born because she needed to have her hips checked by a paediatrician who continually didn't show up - really frustrating. The ward wasn't even that friendly, despite my best efforts. Everyone seemed to have loads of visitors except me! chocbunnies - that is shocking!

I think it just makes me sad that if thats how I was treated, how many other young women/first time mums get the same treatment. I could go into the whole scenario, but it will just upset me, lets just say it started when they delivered her, they delivered her onto the bed, not me! Midwife held her as DP cut the cord, its just goes on and on and gets worse, bearing in mind I had a normal natural birth with no problems except tearing. I didnt know what was supposed to happen so didnt question it, will NOT be making that same mistake again!

Would seem I have not gone off chocolate!lol! Just munched half and easter egg in probably world record speed!

La la la la la la la [fingers in my ears] I'm not going to be admitted. Homebirth for me [ignores possibility of having no cmw cover when goes into labour]

Mr Jael There's not much more I can say that hasn't been said. Hope things go well on Sunday. Thanks for the update. Do you think perhaps you could smuggle in some of Jael's favourite food, either take away or home cooked?

Afternoon all.

Am exhausted after a morning at soft play and a trip to Asda. So going to be a bad mummy and let DS watch tv till DH gets home and then they will go for a swim.

mr jael bless you for the updates. Must be a bit daunting coming on here with all these hormonal and fed up women!

To add to the post natal ward debate, I was in for 3 nights after DS due to high BP. I hated it at the time but probably because it wasn't me choosing to stay but being forced to IYSWIM. We have bays with 4 beds, much like many of the ones you all have had too, with private rooms for ladies who have had CSs. Although I thought I was hard done to at the time, I now think, having seen what a good friend experienced at a London hospital, that our facilities in Notts are fabulous! My poor friend had PE and had to be monitored. They knew on the post natal ward where they are literally crammed in like sardines, she wouldn't get the medical care she needed - 40 women and 40 babies and about 3 MWs to cover - so they moved her to the delivery suite. She was in a room with 2 beds ( ie she could have had another woman with her actually delivering!) and nowhere to put her stuff. No side table,no radio or tv or anything. SHe was in that room for 3 days! Thankfully she didn't have the same experience with her second but my god, I just wanted to march her out of there. That hospital was subject of a rather alarmist docmentary shortly after too. So if I have to stay in for a night or two in my hosptial now, I shall thank my lucky stars I am not at that one in London!

I think the problem with most post natal wards is that they don't have enough staff and most of us don't want to be there, we just want to go home!!

chocolate You go lady!