Due in June 2009: The final quarter - packing our bags and remembering to squuueeeeeeezzeeeee!..

[Ineedmorechocolatenow]

Here it is!

[daisy5]

In my opinion you need 'goodpeople' as godparents as charity, values, kindness etc at the heart of christianity. Church attendance wasn't important to me. Personally I'm no fan of church.

[LittleSarah]

We also won't have godparents, lots of nice aunties and uncles and friends etc anyway. Dh is his younger sister's godfather although not religious in any way (don't think there was an actual Christening, more of an honourary title)!

Attitude most important I agree, dh's godparents he hasn't seem since he was in primary school!

[LittleSarah]

seen even!

[insywinsyspider]

I agree with you daisy about 'goodpeople' but there is a 'requirement' that they need to have been baptised themselves to be godparents, I personally don't care if they attend church reg or not but I think they need to understand the religion if they are going to 'teach' my children about faith and spirituality otherwise I'd have a naming ceremony and 'guardians'.

[Naat]

Hi Juners!
MW appt went well. I'm measuring 34.5, wee is fine, BP is fine so .

We don't have godparents yet either. We'll baptise LO here but don't know if we can do so without any godparents present (as it's more likely to choose friends from Arg than from UK as we've just been here for over a year and a half ). So, we'll have to ask and see...

I agree with Daisy, goodpeople is more important than church goers per se. Some people go to church but do not practise in life the real values you're looking for in a godparent so...

[Effielou]

Hi All.

Hope you are all well?
My pram arrived yesterday and is gorgeous-- I was a bit silly and assembled it myself ( v. impatient and wanted to play) And ended in lots of pain- espcially around my c-section scar!! But its together- with DD dolly in it!! My only problem is my DS thinks its a climbing frame and found him snuggled down in the carrycot!! Ummm.

Just back from midwife and told her about the pain/ pressure in my pelvis-- unrelated to my SPD!!! After she has examined me- she told me heads already 3/5th engaged!! only 32+3!!!
I have been experiencing alot of pain and v. painful braxton Hicks. I nearly phoned delivery last night- but backed out as I did not want to bother them-- and mw told me off saying next time I have to ring, as my scar started to split last time- I can't risk it!! Thats me told xxxx

So more relaxing- apart from new fence being built so suppling tea to the men and trying not to punch my next door neighbours- who warned me not to let my dog out at the same time as hers- as theirs will bite my dogs head off!! Nice.

Well enjoy the sunshine- if you have it xxx

[bunnymother]

Afternoon Juners!!

Holy smokes, this thread does mooove! Will try and catch up...

MrsMcJnr - I sympathise w you re your naughty DS, but secretly I still think he sounds adorable.

Choccie - excellent news about your friends hitting the road - about time you were given a break!

Naat - congrats re your MW appointment going so well. I think I need some more ballet pumps, too. I got some French Sole ones, but they wore out quite quickly , but sooo comfy.

June - Am also in flip flops these days as feet have swollen so normal shoes not as comfy, plus v hard to get on and off - I need DH to help sometimes! Oh, the glamour

Insy - glad your LO is on the move again. God, I laughed re your potty situation re DS1. Sounds like you just have to let them potty train when they are ready then.

Silk - Tena?! at your Mum!

Effie - ooh, who can blame you re pram assembly, I am just as bad! So lovely to get their little things, isn't it?!

BTW the man at John Lewis told me yesterday that the quilt that comes w the moses basket is purely for decoration and shouldn't be used. VERY annoying to hear. Thoughts??

Doris - my dreams are all over the shop, and veer between DH leaving me and me being v aggressive to people. Of course, I am delightful during the day so are completely untrue.

Bigcar, Naat and Tee - still no names for this bunny's baby, either. DH not feeling any urgency, either. He should!

Daisy - PMSL at your progress!! Despite not working and no children yet, I am the same! DH a bit stressed about what happens if I go into labour given that the bags are hardly finished. We aren't doing godparents or the like, either. Despite a few eager offers from v inappropriate male friends to be godfather .

Ineed - am totally confused now about weeks. Am due 5 June, so understand that as of Friday I am 36 weeks. Which also marks the day I brew my first batch of RLT .

Ineed and Ermin - glad I am not the only oone w funny period like cramps. Mine are quite mild, though. BH are becoming v regular occurence. As are LO's stretches and squirms, and I can feel every single one of them.

WElsh - have all my fingers crossed for you that your baby just stays where they are for quite a few more weeks.

Laura - I have the same insomnia, and am turning into a v cranky zombie. and re your Dad trying to offload responsibility for his drinking onto your Mum. Terrible. Gorgeous christening gown, though. Am sure you will treasure it coming from your mum. I you your bond w your mum, and am sure you will have the same w your little girl. I am also hopeful that I will be close w our little girl.

LittleSarah - congratulations on your dissertation! Its sooo close now! re your hopeless MW. What a job's worth!

Phew - what a looong post! Think I better recover w a scone now... Have lovely afternoons Juners!! ((waves))

[Effielou]

bunnymother and Doris Last night I dreamt of DH leaving me and I had an affair with Marco Pierre WHite- sweat and bandana and alll!!! Yummi now usually its James Martin!!! Dreams are strange at the best of times but pregnancy really does something!!

BTW eventhough heads 3/5ths now-- does that mean it wll stay there-or will it pop out again??? 3rd baby and still no clue!!!!!

[insywinsyspider]

bunny potty training for us was a right pain as ds1 is so bloody minded, I made the mistake of going to to loo on my own one day when ds2 was 6mo and ds1 was 2yrs, ds1 got potty, took it into lounge, did poo stood up to admire it and ds2 crawled over and put hands in, came into to poo on carpet with ds1 saying 'oh no mummy what a mess'..... promptly got a playpen after that... how the hell I'll manage 3 I don't know, dh and I are starting to feel outnumbered already!

no idea about blanket on moses basket btw - we didn't have one, ds's were swaddled in it till about 6wks when they got to big and then in ot with growbag on ( and sleeping on their front)

feel very silly for worrying about movements yesterday - baby not stopped today!

[insywinsyspider]

effie ds2 was engaged 3/5th from 34wks and popped out at 37wks (when dh went to US for a week!) so from my experience it can still move

[Effielou]

Hi Insy
Thanks for that- I get sooo many different opinions!!! I get confused.

We tried potty training Flynn he was getting good then refused but with my SPD being bad I can't get on floor to clean up his accidents-- so have decided to wait til after squiggle is born- pre-school are fine with it- so has taken the pressure of me.

Don't feel silly for the movements as mine will be quite then make up for it its a very worrying time, as you can't see inside!! I have an icy glass of water-- or some chocolate and that usually works!!

[insywinsyspider]

effie my mw was adamand that I should pack my hosp bag and be prepared not to have HB as baby was engaged and looked quite supprised at my 37wk appointment that he'd popped out so I'm not supprised you're getting differing opinions - ds2 didn't arrive till 39+5 so doesn't necessarily mean a very early labour

I def think you need to be ready to do potty training too, I can completely understand why some people wait and just get it done and dusted in a week, ds took us by supprise. Does your ds start pre school in sept? thats when ds1 should start but I have no idea how it all works, I filled out forms and he was offered a place after Easter but I turned it down as I'm working and he needed full time nursery but I did say I'd have a place in sept but not heard anything, sine he still naps in afternoon I really need a morning place too...

[Effielou]

Hi Hun

DS started in Feb and does afternoons!! They cannot egally refuse to take a child still in nappies- as all kids have a right to pre-school according to my SIL who is a child minder!! DD was done and dusted really quickly.
I would ring up your pre-school and double check and remind them.

DD was 37 weeks and DS was 38weeks so who knows I suppose it will come when ready.
My bessie has given me 1 week and 3 days!! I used to be a staff nurse in our local SCBU-- so would much rather wait a few more weeks!!!!!

Hope that makes sense??

[bunnymother]

Effie - cannot believe the number of us who are dreaming about our DH's leaving us and also of affairs! Very dramatic lot, aren't we?

Insy - Oh God - poo on the floor? Think my life is about to change in a big way!! I have got a bouncy chair for LO and as soon as she is big enough, I know just the playpen for her.

I really take my hat off to you both dealing w 2 and then another on the way. DH and I still thinking of 3 in a row as quick as poss, but every now and then I hyperventilate am a little concerned about how I will cope. But then, if I think too much about it I won't do it, so perhaps best for me to just to sail right in [blithely optimistic emoticon].

[MrsMcJnr]

DS is down for a snooze (well, not asleep yet ) so I really should be doing the same. I have been on the go out and about since 8.30 and it is 28c today, hottest day yet. I?ve promised myself a quick peak on here before I try and lie down for a bit, DS permitting! DS was very good with his jags but started to cry when he saw the needles, I felt awful he seems ok though.

Silkcushion ? LOL you sound just like all of us

Littlesarah ? hope the dissertation is in, the bloods taken and you are on track to go to yoga

Hey Naat glad things went well at the MW. Yup, HB is going well although mostly fall asleep before the end

Insy ? my nighttime wakenings sound like yours, mine usually happen around 4am. That is really interesting about your DS and the nappies, I guess we?ll just have to wait and see. Horrible poo story!

Ineedmore ? my DS hates being pooey, has to be changed within 10 mins (fussy boy!) my eldest nephew?s potty training sounded like your nephew?s! I?ve heard boys can be really funny about it, especially with poos. Oh the joys to come! Glad to hear things are a little more settled cramps wise with you.

June ? you must have a very big bed to fit your DH in there with all the pillows I have 4 I must be honest I didn?t have one of those wedge cushions last time but I must say it has been great this time. I know how you feel about having work and the baby on your mind, in fact that is exactly what my diary from this stage last pregnancy was complaining about. I worked until I was 38 weeks and I shattered but as DS finally turned up at 41+2 I was glad I hadn?t rushed finishing up! I would have liked to have DS christened before I did but with our emigration and with the heat of the Summer, the priest being away etc we did it when he was 9 months old but it was in the church we married in by the same priest we have chosen godparents for this baby and DH has already asked his best mate and his wife I am waiting until she is here to ask my choices (we are allowed a couple each )

Daisy ? I like the expression ?goodpeople? I am RC and DH is a Jedi but our choices are based on important people to us who we want to have important roles in our children?s lives and who we hope will be good mentors for them. We think good mentors are really important, especially for boys I have to agree with Insy though, for me, they do need to have some spiritual beliefs of their own or the title seems pointless.

Effielou ? glad the pram has arrived naughty girl hurting yourself with it. Splitting your scar sounds very sore, take it easy. Lovely neighbour you have

Bunnymother ? thanks for your kind words, my DS is wonderful really I think that those quilts are generally condemned in the UK in favour of sheets and breathable blankets but they use them and LOVE them here in Spain!!

? looks like he is not going to have a sleep after all

[bigcar]

afternoon all

bunny, fraid they are for decoration, quilts of any sort are not recommended for children under a year old. I've never quite figured our why they don't sell a matching blanket with the moses baskets instead, would be much more use!

effie, think you need to go on full rest with welsh! Must admit though, I'd have been tempted to get the pram set up, glad you like it I'd always thought it was quite common on 2nd, 3rd dc etc for the head to be engaged and then not and sometimes for the head not to be engaged at all until labour starts.

insy, glad your lo has been active today, not silly at all!

MrsMcJnr, how to make children listen when you say no ... erm...... erm..... no, haven't figured that one out yet When they are little it's very hard, as others have said, distraction, bribery and corruption are generally the way to go. Pick your battles definitely and do your best to be firm rather than shouting (easier said than done sometimes when they put themselves at risk). What a lovely thing for your mum to do with her wedding dress

naat, glad your appointment went well, alls good for the bc then!

littlesarah, hope your mw turned up on time after all that faff and the results are good this time! Did you get your dissertation in ok?

waves to all

[Effielou]

Thanks Bigcar- I'll tell DH your orders! lol I'm on basic duties anyway!! Thank-god for here and FB- I'd be going out of my mind by now!!

[Naat]

Juners, do we have to start a new thread before the 1000th post?

I'll catch up now

[dreamydowler]

Hi everyone Had my hospital appointment today which revealed a number of things

Baby is not measuring as huge as originally thought
Baby is definitely a girl
Baby is in the breech position hence the fundal height measurements were out. I really was taken aback as nothing has mentioned about her being breech before today and was only there 2 weeks ago. I have to go back for another scan in 2 weeks time when I will be 36 weeks to see if she has turned otherwise the doctor will try to turn her Ive heard this can be a very painful experience and can send the baby into distress or cause your waters to break If nothing works a c section will be planned
I have 2 weeks to get this baby into a head down position so any ideas greatfuly received.

[Ineedmorechocolatenow]

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