Due in June 2009: The final quarter - packing our bags and remembering to squuueeeeeeezzeeeee!..

[Ineedmorechocolatenow]

Here it is!

[Ineedmorechocolatenow]

Wow, Daisy! That's epic! Sorry to hear about your day. Glad the party went well, if a little exhausting. Hope the dizzy spells pass now you're on the vitamins.

Good luck with the house LittleSarah. Though I didn't move house when preg with DS, we had major renovations going on throughout the pregnancy and his first year. In fact, my mum says I'm being silly wanting all the little jobs done before this DS, I keep reminding her of the chaos that reigned over those two years. I think she's conveniently forgotten! Congrats on you moses basket bargain!

Naat - Glad you had a good midwife appointment.

With regards to visitors after baby is born, I think parents and brother and sisters will be able to visit (with notice!) in the first week. Last time we had an 'open afternoon' on the Sunday after DS was born (he was born on the Friday) and people dropped in. It was a bit knackering, but it stopped all but one of those 'surprise visits' that you get. I found DH a brilliant 'bouncer' at the door / on the phone stopping people dropping in. You'll probably find that people still do it though (I would never DREAM of doing it to someone else, but DH's family have a habit of doing it).

Off to a friend's this afternoon. We all met about 6 weeks after our DC were born through the Health Visitor who arranged for new mums to meet up once a week for a few weeks. We are all still close and meet up once a fortnight for two years now! They have been a lifeline for me as I'm not local to the area.

Enjoy your Wednesday people. How pants is the weather now? I want the sun back!

[chocciedooby]

Hi everyone. Just popping on so I can keep up with this thread.
Back later xx

[SweetBROODY]

Hello ladies ? Had my first antenatal class today; and been ridiculously busy at work? I haven?t been on a while? Going to play catch up? so hopeful you won?t have written much! LOL yeah right :D

Insy ? I am jealous too ? Tee and I can?t have home births! And I know I?d love one!

chocciedooby I am scared to be at 30 weeks! Cant believe its coming nearer the end now!

Which is a good TENs machine ladies? I feel like I need to start packing my bags? :S

Laura I had a LM like that who was really tedious ? she even rung up my hospital to check if I had gone in when I had a D&C after a early miscarriage?
To be honest when she does it now ? I just say I was sleeping and didn?t hear the phone!

MrsMcJnr A lot of the June mums had birthdays that I had missed.. so was saying a big Happy Birthday to everyone.. How are you sweetheart? _ I do love your posts they are so comprehensive!

I am also the eldset of an eldest of an eldest.. I know exactly what you mean.. I have always been the BIG sister who should just get on with things and I was only one when sister came along.. I don?t think it helped that they couldn?t cope with me and sent me to Africa to be with some aunty until I was a few years old ? never really got too close to people since then? life hey ? the things you live and learn..

Naat I am so sorry about your mum! Grr.. its infuriating.. My In laws are who are being awkward.. we have a ceremony 6 days after the baby is born and they want us to wait until they get back from their holiday that they booked AFTER finding out I was due that week ? MIL said she didn?t want to be stressed so she would rather be out of the country! Now they are annoyed they may miss the naming ceremony!

Tee My DH agrees with your and I did not quaoilfy for Mothers day!
I didn?t get anything for mothers day!

Scary birth storys :S makes it so real? so imminant!

June ? what a gorgeous daughter you have ? isnt it amazing how real they look in these scans!

I just now need to catch up this new thread... But you guys are sooo fast!

[SweetBROODY]

Loving the name of this new thread.. I remember to squeeze every time I log in!
Daisy my love what an EPIC! Lol?..

I really must try to stay on top of reading posts.. but find I get so embroiled in life and LISTS! I hve like 4 A4 page at the moment that I am trying to tick through!

[Tee2072]

Evening all.

Total crap day at work. Too tired to read everyone's posts. I'll try to catch up tomorrow!

[loooouise]

Hey Daisy! So sorry to hear about the dizziness and you having to cancel your project. Sounds like life's been seriously manic round your way. Your dd's party sounds like lovely fun.

I agree with your suggestion that my Mum secretly wants to move to up North. But there is NO WAY. So I'm spending my precious late pregnancy getting to know my NCT classmates AND doing a Latin piano masterclass with a teacher I've got a HUGE pregnancy crush on!! Ha ha. I'm going to have a rota of girlfriends staying overnight in my flat from 36 weeks in case my waters break at 3am and I go into blind panic. Mum is still only 3 hours away so could easily be down in time for the horrid bit.

Naat oooh, I'm so with you on the parental dilemma. Try not to delay the chat too much longer. Could you stomach half a small glass of Chablis beforehand for courage purposes? I guess the time difference complicates things for you too. Why don't you tell us when you're doing it and we'll do the live newsfeed thing I asked for when I was too scared to speak to my mum? Then we can all cheer you on!!

June, I'm with you on the two-week rule. Brothers, yes. Best friends, yes. Babyfather and babyfather's sisters, yes. EVERYBODY ELSE - feck off. I can't stand the idea of feeling judged when I'm at my most emotionally vulnerable.

LittleSarah - wow, great news on the auction front! Whereabouts in Edinburgh is the house? Your posts always make me so nostalgic. I'll send you those contacts btw...

Anyway. My best friend IS IN LABOUR RIGHT NOW, up the road in Harlow. Bless her, she was induced at 2pm yesterday, spoke to her today at 1pm and only very sporadic, slight contractions. She was very bored and frustrated, though hopefully things have moved on since then...

Don't you just love this baby fever?

[Naat]

Good evening, Juners

June my oh my! Hats off to you, lady! Glad to hear your DD?s bday party was so lovely, albeit a hectic one Sorry to hear about those dizzy spells. Will they be able to tell you why they are happening? Glad you got a good bargain on your double buggy; it?s great that you got to try it. I?m dying to try ours but going out without a baby in a pushchair might turn some heads (and not in the good way hahaha), so I?d rather not. So sorry to hear about your dreadful time at the hospital yesterday! Hope your dd is better now.

LittleSarah welcome to the ?moving? team I know it sounds really hectic, but yay! on the great opportunity to buy your own home!!! Congratulations, lady, very happy for you. Re. Your flat, can you renew your contract on a monthly basis? So that you can renew for another month and then see what happens with the house move?

Ineed at your ?open afternoon? and your ?bouncer DH?. You guys are genius! Hope you enjoyed your get-together with the ladies.

Hi Choccie

Sweetbroody Sorry to hear about your mum too I like to think we?re all stronger for everything we lived through. Your PILs arranged the trip and now they?re moaning about missing the ceremony, huh? Well... Hope they don?t make too much of a fuss about it and leave you guys alone.

Tee So sorry to hear you didn?t have a good day at work. Hope you are now able to put your feet up and relax with your DH and bump

Loooouise I think I might talk tonight or tomorrow, don?t know yet as time difference is always an issue. They?re 5 hours behind and I?m always in bed by 10 now so... Thanks for your sweet support, I?ll keep you all posted when I have the chat. I?m glad you have arranged a friend relay . That?ll be fun! You?ll be surrounded by support and love, no doubt Hope your friend?s labour goes well!

Tibsy you disappeared again?

MrsMc how are you, sweetie? Did you have a hospital thing today? I can?t remember now whether you did or not... Hope you could get some clarification on the weird call from the other day. I had to call Spain today for a telephone interpreting job. Luckily it was a nice Spaniard

Lots of work today, my brain died at 5 after working on some more translations I received for tomorrow.

I had dinner an hour ago and I?m hungry again ... I want vanilla cake! I think DH is bound to go to the ASDA we have 5 blocks away and get me one

(waves) to all the ladies!

[lauraloo09]

evening all not had much time to catch up but here's my attempt...

daisy what an epic post - I hope the dizzy spells have gone.

tee sorry your day has been rotten, hopefully things will pick up for you at work x

june thanks for transferring over the list - I noticed a few names on there we haven't heard from in a while I wonder how strawberrysam is doing

bunny looks like you got a good deal with the trainee doula, I havent really heard of doula's in my area so not sure what they do or if it would be my cup of tea.

littlesarah what a bargin getting that moses basket so cheap, my MIL is buying me one from mothercare but it is setting her back £50.

ineed thats a good way of handling visitors, esp like the sound of your 'bouncer DH'

mrsmcjnr was it today your hospital appointment was? If it was I hope it went ok x

naat Hope you got your hands on the vanilla cake you wanted - was hinting at DH to go out and get me a cream egg

Well I havent fainted today which is a good thing...but I did get a glimpse of what my life will be like for 9 weeks when I finish on 14th April - rubbish day time tv including JEREMY KYLE agghhh! I'm sure i'll find other ways of occupying my time so I dont watch rubbish. This whole starting mat leave early is getting to me, at one point I love the thought of it then the next I feel guilty as I'll be leaving my baby a few weeks before I was planning to return to work, goodness if i'm feeling guilty now I can only imagine how guilty i'll feel once baby is here. Looking for DH to have an input on what to do re mat leave and all he keeps saying is he doesn't care...god why can't men jus have an opinion!

[LittleSarah]

STOP the presses! The house was sold yesterday, oopsadaisy! Looks like we shall carry on renting for a while, unless we see another great bargain in which case we'll have to be quicker off the mark. Still, at least we can get a (small) mortgage which is nice to know. Bloody typical eh?

[lauraloo09]

littlesarah sorry to hear the house was sold yesterday, what a shame but at least you know you and your DP would get a small mortgage to buy your own place

[ermintrude13]

Blimey, I haven't been able to get onto Mumsnet - it kept giving me an error message - and look at what I've missed. No time to catch up properly, so just giving you all a wave and wishing you a peaceful night's sleep

[MrsMcJnr]

Hey ladies sorry I haven?t been around much over the last couple of days. The ?blood test? this morning turned out to be 10 vials worth and as they hadn?t told me whether or not to fast, I had and I felt seriously dodgy afterwards. Sadly for me, my Mum had no sympathy and I had to traipse round a shopping centre with her looking at clothes that I have no hope of wearing for months straight afterwards

We were at AN class last night and guess who was running it? my male midwife he was ok actually and kept calling on me to talk as I?d already had a baby. The questions like ?describe a contraction? would have been hard enough to answer in English never mind in Spanish! Hey ho, it?s good for my Spanish I guess.

Ermintrude ? I had the misfortune to have to use those nipple shields so I do have them in stock at home though I am hoping to be able to get by without them this time. I asked the MW at the AN class last night what my appointment at the hospital was all about, he didn?t have a clue why I was going either and couldn?t tell me whether or not to fast or take my meds before I went. You know you are in Spain when in week 1 of AN the first topic is epidurals! Most women have them at 2cms dilated here apparently.

Naat ? nope couldn?t call the hospital back as the number they phoned on won?t accept calls and the place is seriously massive and I have no idea who I was talking to! On your dilemma, personally I think you?d be better postponing the parents? visit, by the time they can come you and DH will know your baby so much better and life will be a lot less stressful. My Mum came for 3 days when DS was a few days old and to be honest I just wanted it to be the 3 of us at home alone getting to know each other. Doris is so right, the worst thing is the lack of sleep and there isn?t much your folks can do about that as it?s you that the baby needs. Glad to hear all went well at your MW appointment

Hi Doris

Hey Tee ? not sure you I?d complain to plus that seems to be normal behaviour here! You are just the patient after all. So glad to hear all was well with you and the baby at your appointment You must be joking ? I reckon we?ll have at least 3 more threads before our babies appear

Laura ? sorry to hear about your day yesterday hope the physio?s exercises help. Don?t worry about the birth yet, there are still many weeks for things to calm down and try not to worry about the return to work at the other end, that?s a long way off and you have plenty of time to sort it all out. Now I?ve read that it is all sorted

Choccie ? thanks for the outrage for me about the call we were told last night at AN class that BH are the placenta asking the uterus to supply it with fresh blood, I?d never heard that before

Hello Tibsy nice to see you! How are you??

June ? that?s great that you have thought about your friend who can help you out I?m sure she won?t expect to be a godmother on the basis of that though. Being nosey here but what do you mean by ?something to do with the couple we want to ask being godparents to a girl already and having to stick with girls from now on for religious reasons.??

Dreamy ? hope today went well and that you didn?t feel too awful, I am empathise. How was the scan? Is it pink or blue? I should get the results of my GTT tomorrow at my Drs appointment.

Ineedmore ? glad to hear FIL is doing well, hope he gets home soon

Insy ? sorry to hear that your DCs are at each other a lot I dropped DS?s afternoon bottle yesterday to see if he?d eat more but the plan didn?t quite work as he had dinner at my Mum?s and in spite of me telling her exactly what to do with his food she greeted me after AN class with the comment ?he didn?t like the rice pudding much? I didn?t have a clue what she was talking about as DS was having bolognaise with pasta followed by yoghurt, turns out she didn?t give him the pasta as she thought it was ?pudding? (which she doesn?t approve of) anyway he woke at 3am starving!!

Bunnymother ? a post natal doula will be fabulous!

Hey Littlesarah ? glad you got those classes booked! how exciting about the house plans, sorry that it didn?t work out on that one though!

Hello Daisy ? fabby post sorry to hear you haven?t been doing too well and that you?ve got behind with your work buggy sounds great, well done DDs b?day sounded fun I can empathise on hospital waits ? gggrr! LOL at bribing the registrar!

Hey Sweetbroody lovely to see you! Sorry to hear your early years were tough

Looouise ? how exciting for your friend any news?????!!

Keep well all

[bunnymother]

Morning ladies!

No doubt I will have missed lots...

LittleSarah - how annoying that you missed out on that house! Silver lining could be that you don't have to pack? I am packing and it is not good.

MrsMcJnr - hope the move to your new apartment is getting ever closer! How pregnant will you be when you move? Sorry to hear about your ongoing drama w the Spanish health care system - sounds ridiculous!

Sweetbroody - to hear about your early years.

Daisy - I doffs me cap at your epic post! Not good to hear you are behind on your work, but how can you possibly do everything?? Am also in awe of your DD's birthday party! Wow!

Hello all you other lovely Juners!

Am off to pack some more, inc baby clothes. Do not want DH to realise the full extent... Is it bad that I just bid on a gorgeous pram suit and cute rain coat?

Hope you have lovely days, Juners!

[Tee2072]

Hello Juners!

Well, feeling a bit better today, despite a crap nights sleep. I am sort of having the same issues with my job that laura is having in that certain members of staff really need to keep their noses out of my health issues.

littleSarah So sorry about the house! Better luck next time.

mrsmcJ Grrr for you over the Spanish health system. I hope they get their act together soon!

I'm short on time, so I'll just say HI to everyone else!

Also, I posted a new bump pic on my blog, if anyone is interested: Tee's Blog.

[Naat]

Morning Juners!

Tee Lovely pic! I should move my bottom and upload at least one . Glad to hear you're feeling better but to hear some colleagues at work are being a pain.

Bunny don't feel bad about the bid I'm waiting for it to be next Wed so as to order a gorgeous sleeping bag I saw and cannot get out of my head Hope the packing is not too tiring

MrsMc So sorry to hear about the blood test and the lack of sympathy from your mum I can't believe you met the make MW! Thank God he was nicer this time around... Hope you get your GTT results today by a nicer person over the phone I can see the whole Spanish system is a surprise every day... Hope you can manage to have everything under control (from a fellow control freak)

Laura sorry to hear about the house! But as one of the Juners said, it's great to know you have the possibility to buy your own home! Please, hon, don't feel guilty about your early mat leave... it's not your fault, your baby needs you to be healthy and well for when he/she comes. Oh, and I totally agree on men and their occasional inability to give input!

Hi ermin!

I don't know if nesting kicked in or what but I've just spent two hours throwing away old papers, magazines and basically rubbish that was cluttering my desk . I'll have the chat today (as soon as I see my dad online)! I'll keep you posted.

Have a lovely morning, Juners!

[appletiser]

hi all - apologise in advance.. feel like having a rant at the moment so i thought what better place than here......so here goes... well im 27wks at the moment and reading through the thread i feel totally unprepared for june - i have yet got into an antenatal class.. not that i am going to have much of a chance with my work routine.. we havent thought of any names and shopping for the baby - zilch!
To top things we r just finalising buying a house which will also be ready in june.. and i ahve spent all week of my annual leave searching things to do with the new house.. and not been getting on with work related projects that i had planned so now i am overly stressed about that too..
Plus i can't stop eating reegardless of feeling hungry or not.. and tryingto sleep at night is a nightmare! ( mainly due to pain in the lower legs)

p.s i feel fewer kicks now and more hardening of the tummy - is this normal?

[Tee2072]

appletiser I don't have antenatal classes starting until 5th May and I am also 27 weeks. I will be attending at night. Can you maybe do that?

My tummy is definitely harder, although I still feel quite a few kicks. It could be your placenta is at the front of your uterus (Anterior its called) so you can't feel them. If you are really concerned, phone your midwife!

Don't panic! Still have nearly 3 months to get everything sorted!

I have once again taken a dive, ladies! Tripped over my own feet and reskinned the same knee as before! I really do think the baby enjoys this as it always kicks hard just after I fall!!

[Naat]

tee are you ok? Hope it was not a bad fall. Be careful! Glad the baby immediately kicked, though!

appletiser I'm 28 wks and I still don't have any AN classes. I think we'll put our names down this Sunday when we go for a tour of the birth centre. No definite name on this front either. As Tee said, we still have 3 months more or less so don't panic; and yes, if you're worried about the baby's movements, don't hesitate to call the MW, that's what they're for .

[June2009]

daisy What a post!!
Did the doctors suggest anything to take or do for your dizzy spells/headaches?

Naat good luck with the chat tonight.

Tee Sorry to hear your colleagues are being difficult, some ppl just haven't got a clue, have they. That's a pretty bump you got I should also take a pic of mine sometime.

mrsmc Re: The godparents thing. From what I understand the strict greek orthodox rules say that you can really only be godparents to children of the same sex so as not to run into a situation where a godbrother would fall in love with his godsister. Strictly speaking a priest would not marry them. (I don't know how true this is nowadays). as the cousin and her dh are already godparents to a girl we'd thought we would ask them if lo was a girl or ask my best friend if lo was a boy. (lo is a girl

I'm no entirely sure why nipple shields was on my list, I crossed it off.

Talking abut nipples though I noticed a tiny little white spot on one of those motngomery glands, anyone had that before?

apple Buying a house took a lot out of us, I don't blame you for not having thought about anything else. It was probably the single most stressfull thing we ever did. glad it's done. You've still got quite a long time to go to get your basics for when the baby comes. We made a list and got most stuff in one day. There are some great threads on mumsnet about what to get, what not to get etc to help you make up a list.
My baby was kicking loads for about 2 weeks and now just everynow and then, I feel her moving around, stretching maybe but definitely not as much. (and we had a scan on sunday for 4d and she was perfectly fine, the songrapher said she was moving a lot, just due to her position I can feel her that much. Hardening could be that you are feeling her back.

littlesarah the first house that accepted our offer fell through AFTER we did a full survey (cost: £950 down the drain...)
By coincidence we ended up buying the house that the first house owners who let us down were going to buy!! It's a much better house.

Well, had a HUGE craving for french bisuits and had to contend with a twix...
better get back to work now!

[lauraloo09]

afternoon all I hope everyone is well

apple please try not to stress too much about being ready for June I am 27+5 and although I have things in I still dont feel fully prepared. and as tee said we ave nearly 3 months to go. and please dont apologise for ranting this is why we are here..god over the past month or so that's all I feel like i've done x

tee I hope your ok after your fall try to take it easy x

question about this bloody early mat leave that has been bugging the crap about of me (sorry for the language) and making me feel guilty - think this is why I'm not sleeping at nights. should I possibly take long term sick up to my original leave date or would this look terible on my sickness record?

[Tee2072]

laura I think if your doc is willing to write you off that long, you should do it. But I am not someone who has ever worried about their sickness record. I do think that at some stage (35 weeks, maybe?) you will automatically be put on Maternity Leave if you are off due to a pregnancy related illness. I know it used to be 28 weeks, but I think it has changed!

[June2009]

laura I think if you can take sick leave so that you have your original maternity leave plans intact then you should.
It's not like you are faking it, you have been feeling poorly and fainting, that's not a common pregnancy symptom, I think you really do need to rest you know, your body is telling you you need to rest and it's probably best not to ignore it, don't feel guilty about it, they can find ways of coping without you, you can offer to be available a couple of time a week over the phone maybe if you really want to.

[insywinsyspider]

hi all,
daisy a very impressive post, dd's party sounds fab, ds1 is 3 month before d3 is due and we can't decide whether to throw him party, not sure if I'm brave enough and we have v small house!

apple I had tighenings with ds1 and 2 and was told that they were painless BH, I never had painful BH my belly just went tigh every now and again, it felt like they were pushing their backs out against my belly if that makes sense, like a big baby stretch and then gone

laura our mat policy states 'If an employee falls ill through a pregnancy related illness after the start of the 4th week before the expected week of childbirth, maternity leave will start on the first day of absence' not sure if thats just our company or stat policy... don't feel guilty you need to get yourself and baby safely to the finish line, labour is bloody marathon you need to be in the best shape you can be and, I hope this doesn't come across all wrong, but if you quit your job or died tomorrow work would cope without you, its only work - a friend of mine got killed on his way to work last year and everyone coped with extra work load (the shock and upset took longer but I hope you understand where I'm coming from, I think you should put yourself and baby first, nows the time to be selfish)

littlesarah the perfect house is out there, the one you missed wasn't it

mrsmcj sorry to hear bout 3am wake up

will post later when have more time!

[June2009]

mmm, just thinking about the "nursery" arrangments and need some advice please.

The idea was that we would keep her in our room for the first 6 months in the moses basket and then move her to the next door room where we would set up the cot.

How long can you keep the baby in a moses basket?
How long do you plan to keep the baby in your room?

I'm thinking maybe we'll have to move the cot in our room as she'll be too big at 6mo to sleep in the basket still?

All this involves moving furniture around so I want to make sure what I'm thinking is practical before I get DH to move stuff around.

[Naat]

June we planned/plan to do the same, but from what I've heard babies get too big for moses baskets after the 4th month sometimes and you have to move them to the cot.

Some of the experienced Juners will come to the rescue soon but I'm sure you can have the baby in the moses basket the first 3 months .