Due May 2009 - Childbirth is getting closer and it's giving us the (blue) willies!!

[SpangleMaker]

In honour of llareggub's DS's painting experiments........

No not heartless at all. In fact my first thought was she probably forgot about it and went out (i have a mate who does this regularly) so made a poor excuse but now I'm just reading into things so really sorry if she is ill. Families are wierd aren't they!

Ooh enjoy chick flick on sun am

No not heartless at all. In fact my first thought was she probably forgot about it and went out (i have a mate who does this regularly) so made a poor excuse but now I'm just reading into things so really sorry if she is ill. Families are wierd aren't they!

Ooh enjoy chick flick on sun am

Oops not sure how that happened

Dandy am for you. Its use a pain when people are like that. Enjoy your weekend.

Divedaisy sorry to hear about your argument. I hate it when DH makes comments about the state of the house! I admit I have been lax of late, but today I couldn't find the washing sponge. DH found it on the airer cos he'd given ds to play with it

Good news spangle!

We have had so much snow today. DH tried to go to work this morning but ended up at my mums cos he got kicked off the bus. So glad I didn't have to go out today! My brothers have been bragging about a 2 day week due to the snow, but I am cross cos working for the nhs I have to take annual leave if I can't get in for the snow. I know its probably my hormones but my brother tried to tell me it was because I'd made the wrong career choice

A nice spangly new thread. Like it

It seems a day of rants today. I understand both. My dh isn't too bad and does do some housework, but we've both got different things that annoy us, so e.g. he'll happily let the floors stay unswept, have a pile of toys in the corner of the room and then has a go at me for the shoes in the hallway, while I tend to find that piling all toys in the corner of the living room doesn't equal tidying and don't tend to mind having shoes out on in the hallway. So we have a go at eachother for totally different reasons. But I suppose all couples have similar arguments, part of living together I suppose.

PIL's are difficult sort of people I think. Despite my dh working away from home, mine never ever enquires about how me or the children are doing when he's away. I've never been at their house on my own. Once I stayed longer, because dh had to go to work and I stayed behind. I only stayed an extra hour and during the whole time my FIL gave me the feeling like he was waiting for me to go. They live 1 hour's drive away and you'd expect them to pop in if they've made the effort to drive all this way to see my SIL who lives in the area, but they don't. My DH admits his parents are a bit strange. My own mum gets upset by it, but it doesn't bother me all that much. It's the way it's always been, although it would be nice if we had a bit more contact with them for my dc's sake.

Happy to hear baby's heart is OK spangle. Now you can plan the rest of your pregnancy the way you want.

My gorgeous Babymel changing bag arrived today. It's beautiful. Just like a handbag, I don't think any one would ever guess what it was if I walked down the road with it now.

spangle I didn't see your post earlier, that's great news, what a relief!

dandy I think MIL are sent to us to teach us what not to do when our children grow up and have children. At least, I hope I remember all the irritating things my MIL comes out with. To be fair though, she is a great help but sometimes crosses the boundaries into interfering.

Finally managed to get DS's hair cut today. It looks a lot better and I've bought him his first mini eggs as a treat. He is very quiet so I'm assuming he likes them.

No, I got my babymel bag of the babymel's wedsite. They had a sale on and I had a red one brand new for only £22.50 from here

Oh and re growing boobs: I've gone from a 32d to a 36F I really don't want to know what size I'll be when I'm BF. With my 1st pregnancy they went from a 32B to a 36D by the very end of my pregnancy and then to a 34F when I was BF. I'm already an F now, so I really dread to think what they'll look like!

thanks everyone, I'm very relieved as I'd had the murmur heard before once years ago but it was never investigated and so it's been buried at the back of my mind for ages. If there was anything worrying with my heart it would've meant full monitoring and probably assisted delivery - ok I may end up with that anyway, but at least I know it's not a foregone conclusion.

belgian I love those Babymel bags! I think I'll ask DH to get me one for my birthday.

Dandy what a pain of your MIL. She's obviously only thought about how her looking after your DD would affect her, dithered about it because she didn't feel like it maybe hoping you'd let it go, and not even considered the practical consequences for you. Unfortunately, some people only see the world in terms of how it impacts on them.

A colleague at work is like that. She's the line manager of my friend who's not long had a baby (10lb!). I passed on the birth announcement to people at work as she'd texted me from the hospital. Unfortunatley when he was a few days old, the baby had some problems and had to go back into hospital for a while, which obviously left my friend distraught. Colleague came up to me moaning that she hadn't had an email, photos of the baby etc, off my friend, so I explained what had happened. Didn't change her attitude one bit, 'Well she could have texted me blah blah, I mean, has she even told HR she's had the baby yet?' Errr... HR??? I think that's probably way down her priority list, with a newborn in hospital and a 2yo to look after! Some people!!!

Gosh there's been lots of activity today whilst i've been at work.

Divedaisy- I don't blame you for the rant. Maybe you need to set out some groundrules - for example, my DH knows that if he wants something ironing, he does it himself- or if you are OK with ironing, then your DH needs to give you more than 2 mins notice. I am very lucky as my DH does most of the cooking, washing up and paperwork/tidying, whilst i do washing/clothes drying and putting away. He thinks he does more, and he's probably right...

Dandylioness- again, don't blame you for the rant either. It's not like you ask your MIL too often to help and the fact is she could have told you earlier, especially if she was well enough to pop to the shops. My mum used to come from Manchester to Sheffield every week to have DD whilst i worked. She enjoyed it as she got to see DD and also my dad worked away so she got some company. Once he was back at home, and I had DS too, the excuses started coming thick and fast (and last minute) to the point we just assumed she wasn't coming. I think she thought whilst i was on maternity leave, then it didn't matter if she came to help out, but sometimes, like you, i needed a break. I am really lucky that my MIL and FIL are in Sheffield and if we ask for help, they never let us down.

As for boob/weight growth, I have gone from a 36A to a 36DD or 38C depending which bra I wear. Usually my boobs go a bit smaller once BF so 36C last time I think. I've put on nearly 2 stone although bump isn't particularly big. Put on 4 st with DD, 2 st with DS, so looks like this will be similar to DD. However, sad to say, I've never made it back to my pre-preg weight although i'm sure it's possible with regular exercise and healthy diet (if you have the time/inclination with toddlers underfoot). BF definitely helps as I used to gain a bit of weight once i stopped as i got used to needing to eat more (it makes you very hungry!)

Dandy oh dear... talk about lack of empathy! Did you say your MIL only has boys? Just wondering as [sweeping generalisation time] I think mothers of boys tend to be indulged by their offspring more, hence exaggerating any self-centred/attention seeking behaviour, whereas girls tend to want to establish their independence more.

I must say I'm very lucky with PIL and my own parents as none of them are of the awkward or interfering sort. FIL can be opinionated at times, though, particularly about anything that involves spending large amounts of money (or in fact any money!).

We had a hilarious couple of months a few years back (well, I thought it was, DH not so amused) when DH bought an old sports car, a model he'd set his heart on since childhood, just at the time we were doing a lot of work to the house. He desperately wanted to drive the car as much as possible but he couldn't bring himself to tell his Dad he'd bought it until it was the 'right time'. So for weeks it was being shifted between various friends' garages or parked around the corner with a cover over it (but only in the dark - small village, nosy neighbours who all know FIL) until DH managed to pluck up the courage to tell FIL. FIL was a bit at first but quite likes it now!

Ooops I've waffled on again. Better get on with some of the ironing backlog!

Divedaisy- I should say we also have a cleaner. She makes such a difference. If your DH isn't happy with the house the way it is, then maybe it's worth considering- I know it costs a bit, but its worth it for your sanity and relationship. With kids and jobs, there just aren't enough hours to do everything.

re. not enough hours in the day - you have to allow some mummy relaxing/mumsnet time in your day! My DH doesn't understand how tired i am too...

dandy i know exactly how you feel... it's always the inconsistency that drives me mad. The yes/no/yes/no & never knowing if it's going to happen. With a dc to take care of my major desire in carers is for reliability when asked. But if they are ill I do expect... like you... at least a quick call to say so. It's not as if they have to wait until after 9am to call as they'd all know we're all up early as soon our dc's wake up.

Totally worn out today... so going to watch a dvd with dh, hav some hagen dazs strawberry cheesecake ice cream and probably even an early night.

might be on later but if not have a great night

Evening. Just had to say re: cleaners - mine costs roughly the same (per week) as a decent takeaway curry / chinese for 2 and a couple of bottles of beer. I know what I'd rather have every week..........and it's not the takeaway meal!

By the way I just had a truly horrible experience. Bought some Walkers crisps the other day (1st time in ages) and they are the 'new' flavours - onion bahji, chilli and chocolate (uck) and Builders Breakfast. (God knows what I was thinking when I bought them, but shan't do it again). Well, thought I'd be adventurous and opened a packet of Builders Breakfast flavour to try, put one in my mouth, almost threw up and had to spit it in the sink. ABSOLUTELY THE VILEST THING I'VE (NOT) EATEN FOR A LONG TIME. Think egg yolk and ketchup mixed with essence of puke flavour crisps. Can't even bear to think about it, I am traumatised. Won't be buying crisps again for a while!

Had to have 3 chocolate biscuits and a cup of tea to make myself feel better.

Sorry to all of you with awful / awkward in-laws or parents. Mine aren't toooooo bad but have their bizarre (bonkers) moments. And none of them are very good at childcare / offering to help. (and by the way I have a lot of parents/stepparents/inlaws/step-inlaws - Don't ask!)
They mainly swan in, cuddle the baby for 10 mins, drink a cup of coffee then bugger off again (which is fine but not when I've just given birth and haven't slept in about 4 days which was last time's experience!) What I really wanted was someone to come and HELP ME . Only MIL does this, but even then can be very hit-and-miss.
Sorry, moan moan moan!

Evening all!

I'm another Welsh expat - been in the south east for over 10 years now, but go 'home' regularly as parents, grandparents and quite a few friends are still there. I was born in England though - the downside of living in very rural mid Wales with no medical facilities for miles and miles! Had thought about engineering a visit close to due date to see what would happen (hospital arrangements have changed now!), but tbh the thought of driving for 6+ hours is torture.

I'm sorry for all all of your rants, hope things improve/become managable. I do have a confession to make though...in our house, I'm the one who usually explodes over something really trivial. I pick small fights with DH about silly things, then end up in tears because EVERYTHING is wrong . I try really hard not to do it, and manage months usually, but then it just happens and I cant stop it .

Going to have a bath now and then go to sleep on our brand new mattress. Hope I'll get the best night in ages, because lately I was having the feeling I was sleeping up hill when DH was home and kept waking up exhausted from clinging on to the edge of the bed (not to mention the baby jumping on my bladder, but that's nothing a new mattress can cure)! It's a posh 'Miracoil' + memory foam combo so it should be good.

hi all. thread title did make me laugh.

frazzled... uugghh at the crisps.

sorry to hear the DH and MIL arguments and hope things get resolved and you feel better.

was really short of energy today. also, baby feels really low so have been rushing to the loo often.

about boob size: my bras are feeling tight and hurting my ribs. I'm going to look into the bra extenders like someone mentioned as I can't be bothered to buy a new bra. Originally I'm 32B but have gone to a C and not sure what rib size I am now... Ireally should get measured, shouldn't I?

About weight gain, I think I've gained loads (defn more than a stone so far) but eating the wrong food (fat/carb/junk). my bump is certainly huge and most of my friends comment on it. Can't wait to see MW next fri to see how I 'measure'.

what's everyone doing tonight?

flippineck You sound like me when I've got PMS. When I'm like that my dh can't do much right. Bet he's happy I'm pregnant now. I'm much more stable

momino I'd definitely get measured if I were you. A bad fitting bra is uncomfortable + can damage your breast tissue. If they're good they'll make sure you've got some growing room so your bra will last til the end. Unfortunately I've grown out of my bras 3 times now. It's costing me a fortune, but as I said before I did go from a pre pregnancy 32D to a 36F cup by 24 weeks.

frazzled None of those flavours sound appetizing really. You must have had an attack of baby brain.

Anyway. Definitely good night now.

all,
what bras do you wear/would recommend for maternity or beyond?