Fab Feb 2009: No really, THIS thread we'll birth more than 1 baby, we promise.

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Snap HOM I'm 37 weeks tomorrow too !

IDBI tomorrow is another and hopefully better day for you.

I'm trying to think of somewhere to go with DS tomorrow not too far away but out of the house....

I got all sentimental when I was lying in the hospital at the weekend and started to cry (lying on my own surrounded by all those babies and with nothing to do was a recipe for hormonal tears) thinking that ds doesn't have a clue about how his little life is about to be turned upside down. Millions of children experience it every day but it doesnt' stop you feeling a bit sentimental about your own pfb's does it - it won't just be me and him anymore - god I might just start again in a minute.

I think I should take myself off to bed now . I hope I don't have any weird baby dreams again.

sleep tight xxx

herb know what you mean. All through the earlier stages I'd look at ds and feel quite guilty about getting pregnant again this soon and was quite worried about how he'd manage sharing me (still do), and whether I'd be resentful to new baby for taking some of my time away from ds or resentful to ds for not being able to concentrate as much on new baby as I could with him (resent might be too strong a word). But I've been telling myself that I am about to give ds the best thing I ever could. Someone to share all his secrets with, someone to lean on, someone to be there for him when me and dp aren't here anymore, not just a brother, but hopefully a best friend.
I don't expect it to be easy, but I hope that it will be one day. I hope they get on and grow up to be as close as can be

Awwww guys! DS1 was just over two when DS2 came along. DS1 had been the absolute love of my life and I really worried where I was going to find more love for another baby. But you do - and they are both wonderful, very different, best mates. They really miss each other when apart for any length of time for any reason. I can honestly say that DS2 is, without reservation, THE best thing to happen to DS1. And if he stopped for two seconds to think about it, he'd probably agree...

swampster That's so nice! My mum said ther same thing, she says I won't need to take any love away from ds because my heart will just get bigger.
Think I may cry if I think about this too much now

Tink had hiccups from 22 weeks until well after she was born. She had them so strong I would hiccup from the pressure she was putting on my diaphragm!

I'm finding I have plenty of time for Tink because Fifi sleeps and only needs me for feeds. The rest of the time we can play together without a problem.

I think on the love issue that we didn't have any love before we got pregnant with PFBs but it came and the same is true for our subsequent children. We don't love them before we have (as in pregnancy rather than birth because I think most people love their baby before they're born) them but we have a new love for them.

LBB I remember that stage of the relationship [sigh] TBD used to work less than 1/2 mile from the flat and came home for lunch

Hiya Tink. We unfortunately skipped that stage of our relationship because I wqs always working, litterally 7 days a week for nearly 2 years, but we fit it in whenever we could Was wierd because if we were both in at the same time, I couldn't bring myself to do the deed because living above the pub there was always the chance I'd get called down for trouble (happened often) or a member of staff would come up for change or need help with something.

Just had the wierdest dream, we had more babies! Is dreaming about MN a sign I soend far too much time on here?
Anyway, McDreamy you were next, you were in Chelsea & Weswtminister in London which I don't suppose is very likely and were posting here live, you had a girl called Sarah.
Littlesez you next, we got news within the space of an hour of McDreamy, your sister (do you have a sister?) logged on here to tell us you'd had a boy called Oliver. You had a home birth.

That's it, thought I'd just put that on the record incase I forgot by morning. Going to lay back in bed with my book now.

morning all and welcome katieblirdsnest. Better late than never in joining us

no more arrivals since I went to bed?
Am a very proud mummy today. My DS (aged 15) sat his Maths GCSE early in November and we had to get up very early this morning for the results which were posted online. Thank god he got an A (to add to his other A's in French and Law) The last week he has been a bloody nightmare, constantly saying he would have to re-sit if he got a B (whats wrong with a B? I'd be happy with that!) Anyway, very relieved here as he has been hell to live with and now its one less for him to do in the summer.
Am feeling very mischeveous though and tempted to contact that nasty teacher at his school about it(remember back in October/November that arse of a teacher sent a nasty email to me, instead of another teacher saying I was basically a horrible person and my son had no ability!) I think have 3 A's at GCSE taken at 13, 14 and 15 shows maybe a little bit of ability?
anyway, thats me boasting, sorry (still feels very odd having an almost grown up DC when having another baby)
hope everyone has a good day

AAArrrrgggghhhhh

DS has cough and temp AGAIN!

This is getting ridiculous!!!!!!

Hi katieblirdnest and welcome

Congrats to your son mumoverseas thats a very clever son you have there - i know what you mean about having nearly grown up DC's and expecting another one, i was just remarking to DH last night that all of our peaceful mornings and evenings (all the girls sleep in) are about to be rudely interrupted lol - i dont think any of us have gotten our heads around that yet!

LLB im having weird dreams still as well. Last night i dreamt of lots of trains and someone i went to school with that i havent thought of for years and years.. where on earth did that come from?

Tink glad all is going well with Fifi and Tink, my lo hiccups all of the time, espcially when he is having a trace done once a week in hospital. He has been very quiet for the last few days and i was really worried for a time there ( thank goodness for home doppler ) but hes having a right old wriggle this morning so alls well.

Morning all.
Last night lying in bed I noticed my bump was 'breathing' - so, are they practicing then?! It's the first time it's happened, and I had no idea what he was doing in there. he got hiccups afterwards but he gets hiccups about 5 or 6 times a day anyway

Mumoverseas you should be very very proud of your son. Well done to him!

I dreamt last night that I worked at a Ferrari dealership, it was based on the third floor of a swanky building (how did the cars get up there?) but I was taking so long going up and down the stairs I kept missing the customers.

Ooh and responding to a post from seemingly miles back (although only yesterday I think!) I have tried tipping the car seat forwards to get the belt around it on the back seat...but it ends up vertical and he would just slide right out....

chilled, sorry to see DS sick again. I'm sure its just to keep us on our toes. Hope he gets better soon.

Rosie, thanks for congrats. I'm just relieved we know now as he has been a little sh** the last week or so and I said to my DH last night that I think its because of the wait for results. Funny thing is, he doesn't seem to get at all stressed when sitting the exams (just had 2 weeks of mocks which were fine) but its just when the results come he gets 'tetchy' (and we all suffer!) He seems to think that anything less than an A isn't good enough (I'd have been more than happy with a B) I guess I should be grateful though. Shame DD aged 12 doesn't have the same views as him as she has no interest at all in education/future careers and is apparently going to be either a hairdresser, beautician or a WAG! Thousands of pounds down the drain on private school fees!
How old is your eldest Rosie?

MoS Well done to your ds, that's fantastic. You must be so proud
Pempe That is a wierd dream....

Me and ds both had a horrible night last night but of course it was at different times, the minute I'd be nearly asleep, he'd wake up screaming! God knows what was wrong with him.....Feeling awful this morning, bring on nap time

Question. Stupid one so please don't laugh
What does it feel like when your waters break? Will I have any control over it at all? Will it make a difference if I clench like what I have to do when need to pee (damn pelvic floor)? Will I feel a change in pressure inside before it happens or will there be no warning at all? Will I be left in any doubt as to what happened? Will I think I just wet myself? If it comes in a trickle, will it be a constant flow? Will I notice that my bump is a bit smaller?

I know these are all very silly q's but it didn't happen last time and I'm just a bit worried about missing it

congrats to your son mumoverseas - does he know what he wants to do/be in the future?

lbb think it's different things for different people! my sister was overdue so just had a trickle when she moved, but my friend was a day early and had a gush (maybe how low the head is makes a difference?) and then my godson was born in his waters, like a helmet!

Morning all

You lot bought tears to my eyes this morning catching up talking about PFBs etc. I gave DD a really nice cuddle yesterday and for the first time, she turned around and gave me a proper kiss....no open mouth slobbering or biting, but a proper kiss and it was so sweet, and then she wouldn't stop kissing me. My love for her didn't come till way after she was born as I never realised you could feel like that...whereas with this one, in some ways, I've already got it IYKWIM.....even though I'm terrified how I'm going to make DD feel...

MOS - WELL DONE to your son....fab news. I'm very good at making everyone around me miserable whilst I'm waiting for news as well

LBB - when my waters broke last time, I had no control. I was standing by the sofa folding up some washing and there was a loud pop and my jeans were soaked....very distinctive sweet smell as well....I was gobsmacked as obviously I had no warning (just a show the week before). I went to the loo to change and put a pad on to make sure the fluid wasn't green and rung the hospital. I went for monitoring that evening and overnight, every time I got out of bed, I lost more fluid....no control whatsoever....very odd. And yes, my bump got noticably smaller, and about 8 hours after, my contractions started.

What strange dreams you lot are having ...I don't remember mine.

Chilled ....hope DS is ok...he really seems to be going through it atm

btw, for those affected by childcare vouchers, there is another thread about it here

Right, DD at nursery today so my second to last day on my own....going to meet DH for lunch in a pub whilst I can still drive....

MrsY Thanx for that. When my mum was pregnant with me, she was trickling for days and thought nothing of it, my dad made her go to hospital after 3 days, but I was 5 weeks early so understand her thinking it was something else.
When I ask my friends who've had children, they all say they don't remember......
I'm still worried about missing the window to get to hospital in time for treatment and the baby having to have it....

LBB, thanks. very proud and relieved one more thing out of the way.
Ref waters, MrsY is right that it varies, some get a trickle but I had a huge gush. Born in waters? Weird?

Mrs Y, for the last 2 years he has been adamant that he wants to be a lawyer. At this time he is keen on being a barrister but I'm slightly worried about this due to the difficulties of getting pupillage but we will cross this bridge once he has done his A levels/degree

LMN Thanx for that. Does that mean that I won't lose water until plugs comes away? I won't miss that (I hope)

lol llb how funny!!

Hope you are all well today. I am not feeling great, got a sore throat/cough etc. DH has done the school run for me so it's just DS and me here today.

Congrats to your DS MOS - that's brilliant news for him.

We have def decided on a Ford S max. Just need a new infant car seat now - quite like the look of the Bebe Confort but any recommendations greatly appreciated!

Fingers crossed for some more babies today

MOS shes was 16 in August AND she mucked up her GCSE Maths last year so is taking it again this year. I didnt see the point in getting heavy about it though as its only one year at this age and we were in the middle of moving from Surrey to Wiltshire and had to commute back for some of her exams as we had to be out of our house in Surrey by the end of May so i think it wasnt really all her fault. Take it from me ( i have a 13 and 11 year old girl too ) 12 year olds are like that lol - it'll pass ... eventually (or thats what i keep telling myself ) I am really looking forward to the experience of having a boy this time after all these years of girls just because i sometimes get the feeling that they are slightly more conciencious - we shall see.

I started out at Surrey uni 4 years ago doing an LLB but as I was a single mum and the girls were just that bit too young (plus we had just moved from Exeter in Devon and didnt know a soul) i stopped after three months and transferred over to the (easier and with alot less reading!) degree course that i am doing now with a mind to completing this one and maybe doing a CPE at some point in the future. Anyway i still have quite a few friends that i made that first year who went on to complete their law degree and i know two personally ( in their early 20's ) who got pupillages so it can be done and it sounds like your son is a very smart cookie MOS - if he wants to go the lawyer/Barrister route at this age thats a good thing, My DD1 still doesnt know what she wants to be bless her!

Morning.

LBB - normally works that you get a show first (sign stuff is starting to happen) and then contractions or waters going - so you will have plenty of signs that you're about to go into labour. If in doubt though go get it checked out at DAU (given the Group B strep concerns, they wont mind).

McDreamy - hope you recover soon. One of my colleagues has got an SMax (his son calls it the bus) and he actually really likes it. Chilled - sorry to hear about your DS being ill (snap - mine is too - there are so many lurgies doing the rounds this winter); hope he recovers soon and is bearing it with better grace than my DS (who is insistent on huggies, CBeebies and medicine every 5 minutes...)

Markstretch - Squiglet has hiccups all the bloody time at the moment, so lots of "practice breathing" going on. Annoyingly it makes him bump his head against my pelvis so everytime he gets hiccups I feel an urgent need for the loo!

MoS - congratulations to you and your brainy son. I was the same as your son - fine with the actual exams but a nervous wreck when it came to getting the results.

Today - fingers crossed - we get the blinds put up in our bedroom and then can finally sort out hospital bag and all the baby tat stored in boxes at present in our room...

lbb. As said above everyone different with waters. I had a hindwater leak first which was like a continuous dampness which was pink streaked but more than a show. Then when being induced had a real pop feeling as forewaters reslly did burst and that was like a hosepipe effect.
I don't think theres much chance of you missing waters going even if only a small leak or small amount as it is different than discharge or a show.

rosie, sorry about your DD's Maths last year. Feel really now for boasting about him.
Must have been hard on all of you with the moving and commuting though. Have to say though, although the little sh**/love is very intelligent, he has absolutely no common sense and unfortunately they don't do GCSE's in that.

Please re-assure me that the teenage girl thing gets better? DD is 13 this summer and she has been a complete pain in the arse for around the last year (one reason we posted her back to the UK boarding school as poor DH - not her father - had really had enough, as had I) I do hope she will grow out of it

I used to live just across the road from Surrey Uni and my mother worked there. Good luck with your studies/CPE. If you qualify that will be 4 of us lawyers (I think) on this thread. I'm still in touch with a lot of my old solicitor/barrister colleagues so I'm hoping to get DS some work experience in the summer and will encourage him to work in the legal environment in his gap year after A levels to make sure it is what he really wants to do (not just copying mum )

I had a show in the morning, then about 1030 I suddenly had a bit of fluid running out of me. Very odd sensation...definately wasn't wee iykwim. Little bits kept leaking for over course of day. Got checked at hospital but they couldn't se any pooling so they decided not to put me on the protocol (48 hours in Portsmouth). Turned out to be my hind waters so only leaked when me and baby moved enough in the right ways for fluid to sneak out. Got a big pop and gush during 2nd stage about 30 minutes before DS actually came out.
When I had the initial leak I was meant to be meeting my friend and her 2 DDs in the park. I ran (well wobbled) to meet them and asked...'How do you know when your waters have gone?'...her answer, 'If you are asking then they've probably gone!'
I reckon it is different for everyone.