the wheels on the wagon go round and round into the new year and all those new babies

[tinkisfourtyweeks]

hi ladies a new thread hopefully it will bring me my baby

sorry- completley x-posted with you there GYo- teach me for spending so long dithering over what to say!!

Your dreams do sound odd- but i remember having all sorts of wierd dreams when PG with DS...

I'm having odd dreams too but nothing about the baby really- mainly odd creepy dreams- all involving sex in one way or another!! Had a dream on saturday night that DH and i took a 'break' for some reason, DH had had DD for the day and was dropping her at my parents and i was collecting her the next morning... then when i went to pick up DD my dad said he and my mum had slept with DH the night before!! He was saying it to rub it in that DH no loinger wanted me... so i threw him on the floor in the front garden and started punching him!! then grabbed DD and ran away- then i woke up!! Worst thing was we had to go for a meal with my parents that day!!!!

Anyway- just so you know you aint the only one suffering from odd dreams!! haha!!

Wow Glask that really is an odd dream!

I understand about feeling like a moaner- feels like one thing after another when pregnant- but its definately worth getting seen to with spd issues. Hope you start to feel better today.

HI Diege

GLASK I bet you couldn't look your mum in the eye! Know what you mean about the pain situation. Is there anyway you could take someone with you when you see midwife, dh for eg? Or if you could get a home visit? Just don't want you to miss out on pain relief options if they exist!
Hi GYO! I think these dreams are par for the course. That one about the blanket is freaky! I had one on Sunday night when my waters broke, which wasn't too nice. Was checking all day for dampness!

I know- it was a horrid dream... I woke up, then woke DH up and said 'NEVER EVER sleep with my parents!!' and he laughed when i told him why!! He thinks my odd dreams are very funny!! though was a little sickened at the thought!!

I was 'reffered' for some physio nearly 2 weeks ago now, but at the same time i was told it could be anywhere up to 12 weeks before they could get to me with an app so not to hope too much on it- i mean FFS- i tried to do somethign but it seems like there is a massive waiting list, and i'll most likely be giving birth before they get in touch!! I'm hoping that i can get some essential oils and get DH to rub it into my back- with saving for our holiday i dont want to be spending loads on massages and stuff if i can cope with DH doing a bit for me... a VERY hot bath in an evening is helping me sleep better, but for full relief using that method i'd need to have 3/4 hot baths a day which isn't possible when i have 2 DC's to look after!! Damn the NHS!!

Diege- i think when i see her next i may have to ask if i can start having home visits instead... It isn't possible for DH to come to the next app- firstly because he's got to be off work on the monday as i'm at the hospital for my GTT, and secondly becasue they have to take bloods at the next app, and even being in the DR's room thet tha MW uses makes him go dizzy and need to leave the room anyway!!

Baby is feelign really really low down in my pelvis today aswell- which isn't really helping things!!

Anyway- i just need to pull myself together and deal with it like i have been for the last 17weeks that i've been suffering with the pain- i'm just feeling sorry for myself this morning i think!!

Morning all!

Glask - you really shouldn't feel bad about moaning when you're in that much pain. As for 12 weeks - that's ridiculous! I would put your "assertive and I don't care as I need to get the right treatment asap" hat on.

Diege - re the pilates, are you really saying that we're entitled to paid time off work to go to an exercise class? I am working extraon some Saturdays in the next month so was thinking I'd try and take the time back on a Monday morning when I can. That will only be enough for 3 mornings though and I have 10 weeks left at work...

Kay - sounds like things are looking up. Good luck for tomorrow. Just take it as it comes and we're all here to support / listen.

That's really bad service by the NHS GLASK . Agree that home mw visits are the least they can do, and that should be no problem. If they get arsey, ask to speak to the supervisor of midwives - by law they must get back to you. Ironically when pregnant with dd3 I received an appointment card for a physio referral that I hadn't even requested, and then kept on getting phonecalls from the clinic asking me to rebook etc even though I never suffered a days pain! One thought, does your gp have a visiting physio that comes to the surgery? Most places do, though usual waiting lists...

Yep SES, legally entitled to piad time off work for antenatal appointments/classes (I'm sure this includes exercise unless things ahev changed since 2005 - I checked for aquanatal when pregnant with dd3). Enjoy!

Think we need a round of Wagon brownies for the aches, pains and weird dreams....

Morning

I am trying to keep up but missing big chunks in the mean time I am really sorry if I've missed anything important.

Thanks for the updates on Tink, it's nice to hear it's all going well

Glask, really don't feel like you can't make it clear how much pain you're in, there are many many many people who will have a lot more going on that they moan about (not mentioning my anyone's name here.... ) You shouldn't be left in agony.

Who had sex? I can't remember, but I am very . By the time all the boys are settled for the night (only about 8.30) I am falling asleep! Plus DH has horrible snottyness going on thanks to DS1 (who is still laid up on the sofa with his poorly voice calling out every minute now and then), so I am not letting DH near me, am just back on the road of health, am not leaving it for anything - not even sex!

Kay, sounds like things are finally coming together a bit for you Long may it last!

I'm not sure about the physio- from what the MW said it sounds like there are only 2 in the area- one based at the hospital and one that visits all the area's healt clinics/doctors surgeries etc... so i have a small chance of getting in with either one, but the hospital one is a very slim chance!!

Morning NJ!

Thanks Diege! I know someone in HR fairly well so have just left her a message to call me.

Did someone say chocolate brownies? Yes please!! Can I have a large hot chocolate with marshmallows and cream to go with them it?

Blimey Glask, Freud would have a field day with that dream!

I got seen rather speedily by the PT dept here but they didn't tell me anything I didn't already know unfortunately and no treatment was offered. Hope they can actively do something for you. It's awful to be wishing the weeks to pass because of the pain. Would your GP agree to a referral to an Osteopath do you think?

Well I'm between a rock n a hard place. Have sex, set off contractions or have weirdy dreams and heartburn

Last night I had a great nights' sleep and no heartburn. First time in 3 weeks I haven't had to take Gaviscon tablets.

Hypnotherapy cd has just arrived in the post I only ordered it yesterday afternoon!
Just wondering where the fri&&in' pool is, as it failed to materialise yesterday

ooh ses hot choc- sounds yum!

brownies enroute

AST- My GP is an absolute PITA!! Ended up in hospital because he refused to prescribe me any more medication for my hyperemesis at only 9wks PG!! So i have little hope in him!! I could then complain about him, change my GP then go and moan to the new GP- but again its the moaning, complaining, kicking up a fuss- i'm just not that assertive to be able to do it- i dont have the guts!! oh god- i really need to grow a backbone...

Right i'm off to crawl around on the floor and help the DC's tidy up for my friend coming this afternoon...

She's one of my closest friends, have known her for 8 years and we're still as close as the day we met!! She's offered to do some housework for me while i'm suffering, but i can't have her cleaning my house- that would just be awful!! But at the same time its nice of her, not even my own mother has offered to help in any way!! If i wanted help from her i'd have to ask and maybe beg before she did!! Think that may be why i've learnt to cope!!

Anyway- its tidying, then hopefully hoovering so her DD (only just 12mths) doesn't pick up any disgusting leftover rice crispies the DC's spilt all over the floor this morning, and then maybe consider getting myself and the DC's dressed too!!

Did someone say brownies?

Morning everyone.

Sorry for all the aches and pains - I can definitely sympathise! Feel like Im moaning to DH all the time but he is taking it very well. My newest one is baby's movements keeping me up through the night, they are so hard and also cramp in my legs. Pain in my lower back is the most problematic. Doesnt matter what Im doing

CONGRATS TO TINK! I did read it yesterday but didnt have time to post.

Aw!

This'll cheer you up I bet:
Picture it.....
I'm lying on my bed, listening to my hypno cd, whilst the kids play in the next room.
The atmosphere is relaxed, the music is soft & gentle, the woman's voice is washing over me, draining my body of tension....

Me: "Ow! that's not nice ds2, we don't throw toys and where are your pants?"

ds2: "agga, babba bloo splthush"

Dd1: Mummy, ds2 has done a poo-oooooo, I can smell it but can't see it!

Me: Okay, I'm coming!

Ds1: What are you doing? who is that lady? that music sounds funny! Can I play the wii after dinner? when's daddy coming home? are we going swimming today?
Is this the box for the lady? I though the pool was coming, where is it?

Dd1: Errrrrrr! Ds2 has left his pants on my bedroom floor and there's a poo in them!

FFS!!
Apparently, according to the woman on the cd, I'm beautifully relaxed at this point, the tension in my throat and mouth has dissipated and I'm going into a deep level of calm, serenity and peace

How much would 3 kids bring on eBay?

gruff- sorry I completely forgot to post on the FB page! I really do have pregnancy brain at the moment!

Hi Gruff!

My aches and pains are still a few mild leg cramps indigestion at the moment. Ate my dinner too quickly last night as I was rushing out
Feeling fortunate though that nothing worse at the moment - am quite enjoying being pg at the moment! (Sorry, that probably doesn't help those of you that are sufferring...)

DH has not been sympathetic at all at any point. His standard answer is that his Mum had 6 children and didn't moan and that 2 of his sisters have got 6 children between them and they never moaned. (That was when I suggested buying a dreamgenii pillow). I did have a bit of back pain at the weekend and I just said to him that I knew I wouldn't get any sympathy from him and he did then look a little sheepish. Anyway, I'm enjoying pg I tell you so I don't need his sympathy!!!

Astarte - LOL
That really did make me grin!

Hey Ses! Dont get me wrong I am still very much enjoying my pregnancy and Im sure I really havent got it that bad, but feel that it is my prerogative to moan about my minor pg ailments I think it may be my DH's fault as I get lots of attention and sympathy when I moan

Gyo - dont worry about FB, for some reson you ant get on the groups bit when you are on the phone. I did get onto MN though so that is good!

Astarte - that is very funny - LOL!

Mistake made with pool & courier apparently. Not arriving until tomorrow, can't believe I waited in all day yesterday, still at least I can pop out today if I need to
Nevermind, a simple mistake, we all err.

No worries Gruff! There is part of me that is being thankful my sickness didn't last longer than a few weeks and I have no sign of SPD and another part of me that feels I need to enjoy being pg because I'd really love to do it another 2 or 3 times. (Just hope I still feel that way after this pg and that my advanced years don't advance too quickly!!)

Anyway, must shoot off to work now. Managed to start late today as have a meeting in Brighton this evening until 10pm. I'll be lurking via my phone when I can but probably won't be properly back on until tomorrow.

Have fun!!

God help me, DS1 is being really really naughty today. He throw his blanket into a puddle when we went shopping. He is now shouting and screaming and headbutting his highchair. I have no idea why or what is wrong but I might join Astarte and sell him on Ebay!!!