the wheels on the wagon go round and round into the new year and all those new babies

[tinkisfourtyweeks]

hi ladies a new thread hopefully it will bring me my baby

GYo, the only time I had any round bits in the middle was when he was transverse. Try not to worry too much about, if the baby has moved round, that shows there is still plenty of room for them to move back again, and IIRC, something like 95% of them do!

Tink, DH had the first 2 weeks off, the first week I was BF so he couldn't do the night feeds obviously, the second week happened to be when DS1 went back to school after the xmas hols, so I decided I was going to use the week as a practise run to make sure I could get all three kids up, ready, and out in the morning, even with broken sleep, so I did all the night feeds, as I am still doing. It may seem like he is getting away with it, but he works upwards of 12 hours a day, driving is a big part of his job, and when he isn't driving, he is messing around with water and electricity, so he needs his head in shape. We have switched to the ready made formula (expensive but worth it) so the first feed comes upstairs with us at bed time, if he needs another feed, DH comes down to do the bottle while I try and stop Mikey waking the other 2 up! If the second feed co-incides with us waking up, DH will sometimes do it if he's got time, depends where his jobs are that day, and how early he needs to be there etc. But, at the weekend (when DH is off, before last weekend, he'd been back at work for 3 weeks, and only had one day off!) he feeds him all night, and I get a lie in

Tink- DH would never have the guts to go into another room!! I mean we're PG for 9mths, have awful sleep throughout the pregnancy, then have to deal with a baby waking in the night too- there is no reason why a DH/DP should feel he has the right to go into another room to get some sleep IMHO!! I mean when he's at work you have to deal with your DD1 and a baby, on top of a broken nights sleep!! It's not fair at all for him to get to sleep throguh- especially when your feeding with bottles too- no way- he should do every other night IMO!! sorry- but i'm all for believing in both parents doing just as much for the new baby, and i've only ever breastfed, but DH never went into another room, he's been up much more with the DC's when they've been ill etc and i've been PG- so he's been doing his fair share of night duties!!

Oh I forgot to tell you the HV's latest offering. DS2 has been lifting his head up for a while. Only for about a minute if that though. Apparently he shouldn't be doing that yet as he only 7 weeks old and we should stop him from doing it.

She didn't tell us how we are meant to stop him doing it though.

Kay, tip: you know that the chances are very high that he is breathing, so don't panic and shake him till his head rolls off, just gently touch his cheek, it won't wake him, but you'll know he's warm and alive just by the feel of it!

Diege, if June is warm (please god let it be warm, we neeeeeed some sun!) then yes I think it would be too hot for the nest thingy. It is really well padded, like a snowsuit, and it all snuggles around them. Can any buggy board go up (and down?) a curb? I've never used one, but just asumed you'd have to find a low curb or chuck them off it for a second? Is it Lascal? Lasco doesn't ring a bell, but am sure I've heard of Lascol before.

Dh would only sleep in another room if I'd had enough of him and kicked him out of bed
I firmly believe we parent together and that includes all good/bad things about parenting.
Is he complaining Tink or are you concerned about him?

I've just had a bath, and checked my cervix, it is high very soft, 1cm (maybe less, long) and has gone from posterior to anterior, about 2-3cm dilated I'd say. So what do we reckon, labour in 2 weeks or so?
How long is a piece of string?

Ladies, I haven't the faintest idea what a 'bee' buggy even looks like and don't watch soaps....ever! So cannot comment at all.

GYo if you are concerned then ring the m/w, but baby could well turn around in the meantime.

Glask did you ever consider egg donation? I have often pondered it. Course I'm now ancient, so would imagine my eggs are near their sell by date.
I think surrogacy is one of the most altruistic behaviours known to man and I applaud you wholeheartedly.

Takeaway tonight! Right bloody birth plan!!

HV's suck.

Mikey's is coming tomorrow.

I have my "ignore every word she says" head all washed and ironed ready for her!

(BTW, DS1 could hold his head up at birth, and it didn't fall off or anything... )

I poked his arm and he wriggled. I did it all the time with DS1 too.

I will now touch his cheek instead. DH puts his hand near his nose and can feel him breathing but I can never seem to feel it.

Ast I went from nothing doing, to 4-5cm in about 30 secs, not that I am saying you should keep checking every 30 seconds or anything...

thanks Nat, Diege. Will see how it feels later. Can get a good feel when I lie flat in bed too. Think, you might be right thou Nat, if its anything other than head down its prob transverse. Fortunately seeing the MW again next week as I need my RH jab and bloods done so she can check then. Still will only be 35wks then... Still shocked how I got to 35wks!

Interesting about DHs sleeping elsewhere- I've been telling mine he can if he wants once back at work so he can work and not feel rubbish - but he has said he'd rather stay put with us in the main room! Will see how that goes but everyone is different!

Impressed with you guys who manage night feeds and avoiding waking other DCs-

DH has now laid nursery floor and is doing new skirting. We can get the cot assembled soon!

Lascal Nat, I've got one.

No need to get off, just remind him you're going down a kerb
I find that the hopping off the buggy board at will to be the hardest bit about them. Dd1 used to step off as I was pushing the buggy, without warning me, so she either fell over or got trampled on .

Aha, he's finally woke up - and is starving so I'm off! G'night all xxx

Kayz tell HV to feck off!
That or put your noddy head on and promptly forget she even visited once she's outta the door

Nat , have BH will see if theory holds.

DS1 just picked up my potty training in a week book to read. Hopefully that will mean he will be trained easily

ooh bye Nat

Hi Ast... cervix sounds promising!

Im overly excited about another labour thread for a wagoner- need to calm down.

Agree Nat, HV are a species apart...Lots of deep breaths, pinches of salt etc etc..
Yes it's Lascal!!! And yes, theoretically all board go up and down curbs, but can be mighty difficult if a high one on the way up (ok down). I always made mine get off at them. Onto the snuggle, if a warm June , could baby just go in bee without anything around them? Is it more for wearmth, or does the whole thing not reall work without one for a nb???
Astarte, are you saying your cervix is 2-3cm dilated??!!!
Agree with others TINKS - wouldn't let my dh get away with that one. You're having it harder in the day (my dh admitted to having a sneaky nap under his desk when dds were nb - he had his own office then!!). Plus the danger it becomes a 'habit' and before you know it the whole nighttime thing is down to you!
Right, food in and I think I hear the distant sound of screaming children!!!

LOL Kay- he definately sounds keen.

HVs sound like interfering wotsits! No experience of them but agree with Ast, tell her to EFF OFF!

I'm going to get DS2 weighed this week. It will be a case of trying to ignore as much as possible. They tell you such obvious stuff, which I suppose they have to so if anything happens they are covered.

Diege- reckon you could just get one of those head snuggler things that usually go in car seats (seen them in Mothercare for a bout £14 and maybe a Morck wrap thing that has holes for belt straps and wraps around them to be cosy (there is one that does all seasons-not sure i've spelt that right though)

So long as head is supported ok would have thought it would be fine.

Astarte I know no one who knows as much about their cervix as you do!

Diege also wondering if a nb can go in the Bee without a nest thingy - us with the summer babes! NJ advice?

Glask I can understand how the whole surrogacy thing is really emotional and draining on both sides. I would imagine if you're having to use a surrogate, you don't want to burn any bridges though and keep all of your options open at all times.

GYO have no advice about the baby, but would've thought it has plenty of time to move back? Good luck!

Tink I may be in the minority here, and of course I don't have any children, but if I didn't have any other children or had a really good DC1, I would probably let my DH sleep wherever he needed to in order to get a good night's sleep. Perhaps it's a bit naive, but seems to me when you have only the baby to contend with, you can rest a bit during the day when it is sleeping. BUT if you have another child, you're working just as hard during the day as your DH is while he's at work, so you should both share the middle of the night waking up. That's not to say that looking after a baby is easy - I dunno, maybe that's warped logic!

We still have quite a bit of snow here despite the drips I keep hearing! DH finally managed to get his car out of the road to go to work at about 11.30am.

I've just been outside digging the road outside the house. DH has already dug my car out in the drive but was a bit concerned about the road. (I really must try and get to work tomorrow!) The road is still 3" deep in snow/ice!!! The only tarmac to be seen is where people have been digging and where DH had his car parked out on the road!

One of the dogs escaped the front garden earlier! She ran up onto a pile of snow and jumped over the wall! Fortunately I was watching but it meant I ran out in my slippers trying to use foot prints I'd made earlier in my boots to get her back in. She didn't seem worried but knew I wasn't happy - combination of wagging tail and looking sheepish all at the same time!

As for the DH sleeping arrangements, mine has already spent a couple of nights in the spare room by mutual agreement as I've been having a combination of pg insomnia and then disturbed sleep when I do get to sleep due to discomfort and cramps. I also think (atm!) that once he's working and I'm bfing after we have the baby that I'll be fine if he decides to sleep in the spare room some of the time.
This seems to go against the grain though so maybe we're a bit mad???!

Ooops! x-posted with lots of you then!!

LBOT - maybe it is a naive first timer thing about DHs and sleeping arrangements??!! Maybe we'll find out the hard way or maybe we'll just find what suits us!

I'm a bit worried as since I've come in from digging, I've started shaking and feeling a bit overheated. Seems a bit pathetic and I didn't really think I did too much... Will just sit and rest for a bit....

SES & LBOT- i'm pretty sure you've got the wrong idea of what a baby is like.... trust me- after 2-3weeks of being the one to get up in the night all the time while your DH's/DP's getting a full nights sleep you'll feel completley different about it all!! With DH i'd be able to BF during the night and as we have a dimmer light i just turned it on a little so i could see what i was doing, and DH would wake up, check all was ok then go back to sleep. It didn't bother me too uch as i was only up for about 5mins each feed, but it did start to grate on me a little!!

Get a lie down Ses - did wonder if that was a bit energetic when I read your first post.

Funny about the room thing. So far all the first timers - ie Ses, LBOT and myself have been really cool about DH in another room to sleep...- must be something you learn as you go

Think I will take your advice and go and lie down. Felt a few gentle movements so not overly worried but still feeling shaky and hot. Will post later.

I think I would throttle DH if he slept in another room. Fine if he doesn't do the feed but he can at least wake up.