Over the Moon to be Due in June 2009

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Here's the new thread. Hope you'll find it. There is probably a more up-to-date list of us all at some point in the thread, but I couldn't find it. The newbies will have to add themselves on....

Bumpsadaisie 28th May
CoteDAzur 28 May by dates, 1 June by scan (37, dd 3)
swottybetty 30th May (31. DD 07/03/08)
llynnnn 1st June
Myneaux 1st June
Bigcar 1st June (37, dd 18, dd 9, ds 8, dd3 2)
joyfuleyes 2nd June
marmotti 2nd June
gems27 4th June
Mrs McJnr DC2 4 June 2009 (34, ds 8mths)
Ineedmorechocolatenow 5th June 2009 (31,ds 2)
summerbird 6th June (35, 1st one)
daisy5 6th June (41, dd 2)
LittleSarah 6th June (26, dd 4yrs)
thisisyesterday 6th June (ds1 3.5, ds2 1)
DreamyDorrie 7th June (30, dd 19/11/07)
Yoshimi 7th June (ds 18nths)
Aligard 8th June (one dd)
Leaky 10th June (39, ds1 5, ds2 2.5)
DawnoftheDead DC1 11th June 2009
Champagneforlunch 11th June (27, DD 4yrs)
NickelSodium 12th June
travellinglight 13th June
Sparkle73 13th June
Froggy16 13th June (27 ds 6 yrs dd 4yrs)
Nemoandthefishes 14th June [30 DS 5[+2days],DD1 2.9yrs,dd2 21mths]
Irishmama3 17th of June (36) [dd 9 ds6 and dd2
chocciedooby 18th June (37m ds1 4, ds2 3)
onehitwonder 18th June (41 DD1 3)
ermintrude13 20th June (41, dd10 ds6)
snowwombat 21st June (31)
TTCnumber3maybe (36) DC3 22 June 2009 (DS 4.5 and DS almost 3)
StrawberrySam 22nd June
Diege, 22nd June (38, dd1 7, dd2 5.8, dd3 2.8)
Heebeejeebee - 22nd June (36)
BobsWendy DC3 26 June 2009
TheLittleMermaid DC2 26 June 2009
Tee2072 DC1 26 June 2009 (39)
Sweetie34 - 29th June (37)
Wilsonmummy 28 2dd edd 30th june
mamaolivia 31 dd1 2.6 - due 30th June
NotSoRampantRabbit
tessofthedurbervilles
boundoriginals
helpivegottogivebirth
Li lacpink
mel1981
flynn1984

juicy I managed that because my DH's sister is due the exact same time as me and I told them they really should go with her, I'd be fine! Also, my parents are coming over from America, DH's parents live in Derry, only 1.5 hours away from here!

ermintrude LOL oh no, she's not a vicar, she was asking to be the godmother basically.
The family tradition - which we'd like to stick to even though we only go to church at weddings and funerals - more or less follows the greek orthodox religion and is that you choose a married couple as godparents, preferably relatives, who would be able (emotionally and financially) to look after/take on our child should anything happen to us. Or just decent reasonable people to turn to when you're a teenager and your parents are so unfair ;)

Thanks juicy and everyone else for your kind words. How good of your parents to have your pils over, and at your fil making you cry over xmas
I hope your headache gets better!

Tee the second trimester burst of energy is a myth as far as I'm concerned :D, I hope your cold gets better. My gp's recommendations were: glass of milk with honey (can you have honey?), hot water infusions (but watch out for nosebleeds) maybe with a drop of euclyptus but not necessary (I never used it.), salt water gargles for the throat, salt water drops for the nose, plenty of water generally and plenty of rest, stay warm, paracetamol for headaches, oh and a drop of warm olive oil in your blocked ears. I don't know if any of it really worked but it kept me entertained until I did get better ;)

flynn did you make it back ok?

June - what is it with a newborn baby that sends our families into crazy mode? Visits, godmothers & the like? Have you & your dp even made the decision to have baby christened? Ouchy?

Tee - result on sil pregnancy! What a relief! Will be so nice to have your parents over from the states , exciting times!

Take care all!

I'm so aware of the fact that it's going to be much much easier for me to be 'part of it' if my DD has children than if my DS does. That mother-daughter relationship will inevitably be closer. Note to self: be a really lovely MIL to my DIL so that she won't be posting on MN about how the old bag is insisting on visiting and trying to take over! Actually, that could be anything from 10 to 30 yrs away so technology will have moved on and said DIL will probably just transmit a message to a group of Mumsnetters who are connected via their mindpowers. .

June You've reminded me, we keep meaning to sort out legal guardianship (with my sister) of DC in the event of our untimely deaths but have been avoiding the subject. Since we haven't done christenings or even naming ceremonies there wasn't a logical moment to do it but we really should..

Hey ladies
Hope you are feeling less irritable and tearful today Choccie
Tee ? hope you feel better too It will be great to have your Mum there to cook for you etc but you might be relieved when you are alone again. So many people offer advise when you are a new mum and I found until the well meaning relies were all gone I couldn?t hear my own instincts which generally were sound.
Flynn ? DVDs in bed sounds like bliss hope you got home safely tonight.
Bunnymother ? chocolate is always the answer here when pg too, I eat far too much funny as like you I can take it or leave it normally. Blame the hormones for the crying; sometimes just looking at my lovely DS sets me off. Yes, the ?stuffing? in the top of my boobs that I seemed to lose after the last pg/BF seems to be back and it?s a much better look than the one I was sporting! If you like organization you?ll like www.fly.com and Emma B?s lists on www.lifestyle-essentials.com on the pram/buggy front, no sniggering just thinking really, we bought a bugaboo for our DS and it is everything I could want in a buggy but they don?t do doubles so we are back to the drawing board. I would say that a double ½ occupied might be a bit unwieldy unless you get a Phil & Teds or an iCandy Apple which you can convert into a double when the next baby comes along? Personally I feel that you are always going to have to sacrifice on something when you have a double buggy and that?s why I am keeping my bugaboo to use with DS or the new baby when I/DH am alone with one of them.
June ? sorry to hear about your upset with your Dad and brother. We all know how pregnancy changes your world but other people seem oblivious don?t they? Sending virtual chocolate truffles that was very forward of your SIL to ask you that about being a godparent!
Juicy ? you poor thing hope you feel much better soon. Ironic isn?t it boobs look fabulous but are largely out of bounds in pregnancy (well that?s how I feel anyway, far too sensitive!) here is the link to the buggy board stool thing www.amazon.co.uk/Swiss-Strolli-Rider-Buggy-Board/dp/B000H3PT9C/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=baby&qid=1234207 577&sr=1-3 my friend mentioned to me that Holly Willouby was expecting and said she thought she had that far away look last night as if she was feeling crap like I was!! Tell PIL where to go, unless they might be helpful you?ll not want them there after the birth, for sure. As Ermintrude rightly says, it?s up to your DH to take a stand there and tell them no. It?s your Babymoon and you want to share that special time with DH alone. Saying that, I am trying to engineer my MIL being here as she is here with friends from 13-20 May and then my parents go away for a week to my cousin?s wedding so I?d like the peace of mind of knowing someone familiar is here to look after my DS if I go into labour, my parents will be back on my due date but I think it is worth having a contingency anyway in the week leading up. With DS I had this real fear of PIL turning up at the hospital as soon as DS was born, we didn?t tell them he?d arrived until too late for them to visit that day but they came to every visiting session after which sort of limited who else could come.
Bigcar ? my baby is moving a lot more now too and I love it, it?s the best feeling in the world I have started looking at that buggy thanks. It does look interesting.

Daisy ? my PIL drove me mad last pregnancy wanting to tell everyone our news before we wanted to and throw parties etc, all very well meaning and nice but completely panicked me. We have friends coming over from Scotland 2 days after my due date they are not staying with us but I am fed up about it, we won?t see them again for a long time and we specifically asked friends not to come over in the 6 weeks after the birth as we?d be frustrated at not having more time to spend with them but they ignored us

Ermintrude ? no one ever brought us food when DS was born, I wish they had! I try to take something homemade and nutritious when I go to visit a friend who?s just had a baby though I was a bit embarrassed last year as I went to see a friend in hospital after she?d had her DS, I was due 2 days later and had been reading up on not getting constipated on hospital food so took her a homemade fruit salad (and some flowers), I think she was very disappointed

Evening all
Thank god I made it back safe, just a few near misses though

June on the subject of dopplers I bought an Angelsounds one from Amazon for around 30 and it's great picks up baby's HB very quickly so glad I bought one

Tee that will be nice with your parents over from the states I'm sure you and your parents will enjoy it!

Juicy on the subject of christenings and godparents etc me and DH has already decided to have baby baptised and already picked the godparents...as I mentioned in a post a few weeks when discussing my nursery ago I'm so Monica Gellar from Friends with organisation

Lynnn hope your feeling better x

Just a quick note on PIL - Mine are ok I get on with them very well and they live about 5 mins away (just like my mum) which will be good for support in the first few weeks...but already they are over stepping the mark telling me to stop buying things for MY BABY, already been told to stop buying bodysuits and stuff, and telling me where and when I cannot go on holiday in 2010 (want to go away in June 2010 to celebrate Baby's first BD and me and DH's 3rd wedding anniversary)I know they are only being thoughtful and nice but sometimes I just want to scream at them to stop interferring but I have my mum to discuss these things with (thank god we are close!)

Goodness me that quick note turned into a long one with lots of brackets lol ach well

Wow - everyone seems to be thinking along the same lines at the moment.

ermintrude - my uncle and his new wife are not people who 'get' it. They live in lala land. However when I was a teenager I was at my aunt and uncle's for Sunday lunch many weekends and nothing was ever too much trouble for them - I spent a lot of time at their house - but it was my aunt whom I got on with well - not my uncle particularly. That is why I feel bad, because so much hospitality was extended to me. Also they have been planning this trip for four years and I'd always said 'you must come and stay' - and they had decided June, before I ever announced my pregnancy, so it is all just dreadful timing really. But they have other friends and family thankfully and so they will be fine I am sure.

Like you, ten years ago my parents would have been amazing and helped out hugely but those ten years have taken their toll sadly. As it turned out, when I did go home for six weeks when dd was 4 months old, I came home to a can of worms - they had health problems and were in a real financial muddle. My dd had reflux and was awake a lot at nights. And when she went to sleep, I spent hours worrying about how to sort out my parents predicament - it didn't quite give me the rest I was hoping for - just more sleepless nights!

But thank goodness they didn't come over to visit - as it was a crazy time and we could not have coped - also their problems were worse than I realised. Just before I gave birth, a real mess erupted at work and DP was working around the clock trying to sort it out - he could only take 4 days paternity leave before he just had to go back - FIL had a stroke when dd was 1 month - was in hospital much of the time for the next 2 months. DP was working his butt off every day, then going to hospital to visit his dad, then coming home to a crying child until midnight. We had to sleep in different bedrooms as I was up half the night - he spent the first six weeks in a child's bunkbed until I insisted he have the master bedroom back. DD's reflux meant she slept around 8-10 hours a day, often with only 4-5 hours at night - 2 hours and then later 3 hours. The pressure was just out of this world - I was awake at 5am in the morning on the day of her third birthday and I was swaying at the top of the stairs with tiredness and thought - 'I need to be hospitalised with exhaustion'...and then the phone rang and I knew what it was immediately. DP's father had died

Imagine if my parents had been there as well!!!!

And this was at the end of a really rough pregnancy filled with migraines.

It really is a miracle I convinced dp to try for a number 2 and I cry with relief every day that this pregnancy is so very much better than the last. Nothing could be worse than the last. Every couple experiences their own particular stresses and strains with a new baby, but I think it is amazing that we are still together in light of all the stuff that we endured in those six months.

And hence, this time, why I am not keen on visitor's soon after the birth. My babysitter's daytime job is as a neonatal nurse and if I have any problems she is going to come and help out - so the Gods may be smiling on me this time

Wow daisy not sure I would want a second child after all of that!

My parents are actually on the older side (Mum will be 69 in March and Step dad just turned 77) but are in decent shape for their age. Much better than my PILs, since my MIL walks with a cane and my FIL had a heart attack not that long ago. My mum has already said she will at least cook a few meal and Step dad loves doing DIY, so I am thinking of a few projects for him!

I also don't need to wait on my parents at all. When PILs come and visit it is constant 'can I have a cup of tea?' etc.

And they'll be here Wednesday night. GAH!

Off to bed. Night mummies!

By the way, to any first time mums - my experience was a bit extreme - and very very unusual for so much to go so very wrong all at the same time.

mrsmcjnr - so pleased you might have a suitable apartment. I like your IKEA idea. We are clearly thinking along the same lines. What a shame that your good friends are coming then. I guess you just hope that dd comes late? Was ds late? I was five days over. Thanks for the great link to the buggy seat. I think that is exactly what we need - I wonder if it works with the Bugaboo?

june - I totally empathise. My dp is fantastic, but how many people think they have done you a huge favour by just bringing the plate out into the kitchen . As you get more heavily pregnant, use the pregnancy to get them trained up pronto .

flynn - You sound so organised. I am despairing as we used all the obvious people (best friends with children of a similar age) as godparents for our dd and now with no. 2 I am a bit stumped. I wish we had held back on at least one super special person!!!!

Daisy you are a wonderful person, your story bought tears to my eyes. I must appologize for my rants today some families have real problems to deal with. Think sometimes things I get worried about spin out of proportion. X x

juicy - thanks for the sweet message. But my heart goes out to you - it's just a different situation you are faced with. Your parents sound so lovely - can I borrow your mother . I can completely understand why you were feeling anxious - emotions run high when it comes to babies...it sounds like you have done the right thing. They have time to get used to the idea of staying with your Mum and it sounds like you will get a bit of help and kindness during the day and at the end of the day you will have the house to yourself. All that smiling diplomacy is hard work though, isn't it!!

I must go to bed now. Sleep well mummies and mummies-to-be.

Good morning all!

I would like to propose a rule for this thread; no apologizing for a.) rants or b.) me me me posts!! If you can't rant to us and be self centred occasionally, where can you?

Agreed?

(can you tell I'm writing the minutes from my Board meeting last week?)

Morning all,

Tee- I like your style! It's weird isn't it how we have all these thoughts & feelings rushing round our larger than before pregnancy hormonal bodies, & we all find refuge via the web!- Fab!!! My dh said i quote 'that mumsnet thing is just for slagging off your in laws' so I said well who am I supposed to tell about it? - you get upset! Anyway now I am changing my password so he can't spy ! Bless him I think secretly he is a bit relieved that I don't witter on to him all day about 'stuff'! Note - dh is a dh we are almost just to honest & open with everything that we do, we don;t sit in each others pockets or anything but we do share an e-mail address etc

Mrsmcjnr- Thanks for the wheely thing link (still not sure what one should call it!) I love it, you do realize though that I have no need for it what so ever just planning ahead!!! It's all very exciting- I am an only child, dh one of two boys I want a huge family!!! I said to dh last night once baby is about 2 months lets start trying for number 2- he nearly fell off the sofa! Ha - lets see how I get on with one first!

daisy - thanks

Flyn- you buy what you want for your dc! I have all ready bought about 40 babygrows, other outfits & mama's & papa;s sent me a gift worth 60 GBP of cute rattle things & other toys to entertain little ones all because they were 3 days late delivering my maternity gear & I kicked up a fuss! Oh & we have also decided where the 3 of us will head for our first family holiday in jan 10- dubai lo will be 6 months ish!!! On the subject of babygro's m&s have really nice bits in think they were 6 gbp for 6 & cute!

I am meant to be meeting one friend for lunch today & another two for dinner tonight but I am sad to say for the first time it;s all too much was going to go looking for a valentines gift for dh in between times. The thought of getting on the tube without an urgent reason fills me with dredd.... Think my 2nd trimester energy has well & truely gone!

So ladies any idea's what I could get dh? bored of the usual cake/ choc;s thing!

Oooh, Valentines help required!

As things a bit tight this month I said to dh we should get each other a wee token thing on Saturday. Of course I now really want the token thing to be extra special and I have no idea what to do. I am not a bad artist at times so was thinking of some kind of drawing. However, I'm not sure what of. I can't do landscapes or anything, people are more my thing.

Actually, have had a thought now! Maybe I could draw him and his brother when they were wee or something? From a photo? Obviously one of him and me could be nice but have never drawn myself and think I'd need more time to tackle that!

Any ideas welcome!

LittleSarah Two of my sisters do lovely charcoal or watercolour copies from photos of us as kids and they're gorgeous, so I'm sure your DH would love it. Sadly that's far too creative for me - I can barely draw the curtains - so my DH is getting a line of Thornton's chocs spelling I heart You and a Sainsbury's beef wellington. I'm too pregnant to be creative in the kitchen either.

Tee, well said re ranting and self-obsession. Bring it on ladies!

Juicy - can't believe your DH said MN is only for "slagging off inlaws"! Not true - "slagging off" goes much wider than that!

As a first timer, am thinking of going to the baby show on Fri 27 Feb at Excel in London (wherever Excel is). Any one in London and fancy an outing? Am hoping that it will be a good show w lots of products for me to look at w useful demos and maybe the odd sample . Sorry about overuse of emoticons - its my first time!

Juicy - thanks also for M&S tip on babygrows - will go and have a look. Am quite keen for cheap, cotton, button/press stud/zip up ones, as apparently the little ones hate things being pulled over their heads. From what I read...

Daisy - you are a trooper and I take my hat off to you, sounds like you went through quite an ordeal, but are happily on the other side of it now. Hope its smooth sailing for you from here on in...

MrsMcJnr - thank you for those links to lists - will have a looksy! Am leaning towards Phil & Ted w a double kit. Think DH might quite like the big tyres they have, too. Closest he is getting to choosing "new wheels" for a while...

What I get my DH, that he likes (he doesn't like physical gifts, unlike me!) is a day or weekend of his choosing - we go where he wants and when for that time and do whatever he wants to do. Maybe that's a possibility for a Valentine's Day gift, Juicy?

Couldn't resist posting again...

LittleSarah - you gift sounds absolutely charming, and priceless. Agree w ermintrude that he will love it! Think you are v lucky to be so creative!!

ermintrude - bet your DH will love chocolates and beef wellington - sounds like a man meal from heaven!

bunnymother i forgot to mention the sticky toffee pudding and cream to follow. what's not to like?!

So re valentines, I am taking dh to Paris , eurostar are doing a special offer, we are doing a day trip! I wanted to make it special for obvious reasons & I am thinking that next year we can't jet off at a moments notice!!! Saying that we are there for 10 hours so I am not quite sure how my swollen & legs & ankles are going to keep up with all that walking but we shall see! Now, my aim is to find a card with the eiffel tower on

bunnym- loving it! you are completely right - rants in general! I am hoping to get to the baby show with dh on the saturday (it will be hell) actually in pregnancy & birth magazine there was an offer on tickets, I will check it out then let you know (think it saves us a couple of quid p/p). I went to the wedding show in olympia it was great but crazy busy - hoping all the pg ladies have a slower pace. I actually used to live right by excel, its in east london, you get there on the DLR (bit of a bugger to get to actually).
Sounds like m&s are exactly what you want they have the poppers on & you always know with them that you can wash the cotton really hot & tumble dry & they wont shrink, we are afterall going to be changing them 100000 times per day

Littlesarah- such a nice idea, dp will really appreciate that too! I am very fond of art (all though not that good at it- for fun only) & I have started a course at a local library its great fun!

erm- your treat is special too , i think my dh is going to cook for me on saturday- we may well be having beef wellington as it's his fav too!!!!! Actually i have quite enjoyed trying some new recipes in the last few weeks (nesting I think), I made a mean sausage cassorole, dh loved it & it;s so easy - if any of you want the receipe I can post it- a great one to cook & freeze before b-day !!!!

juicygirl will you be my valentine? . what a lovely treat!

juicy we've been thinking of going to the baby show in excel as well. Been looking at prams this weekend and saw an offer for around £120 for a new graco system on ebay.
Also got some kind of babygro from sainsburys (£7 for 7) which were cute but in hindsight probably not got large enough arms and head.

Re: Valentine: we're having some relatives from France round for dinner (timing!!), 2 of my aunties with their husband.
It's going to be lovely to see them again.

I love roses and always hope that dh will get me some but the really nice ones are sooo outrageously expensive on Valentine's day I feel bad and usully end up making him swear he won't get any! I usually get him a card, I don't think we ever got each other actual presents for Valentines but we'll always cook for eachother and make some time.

I got a "naughty weekend kit" for him once (not as naughty as it sounds) its got bits and bobs for massage etc and was around £30.

I'm going ot tyr and think up a valentine theme for the evening, maybe give my aunties a rose, or get some rose petals on the table or something.
We're cooking curry though, not sure wether that's very romantic, thinking about it :S

We are pretty much ignoring Valentine's this year. We are exchanging cards and I imagine I will make my pan seared steak in red wine sauce. Its a big birthday year with my 40th and his 35th and of course the Baby!

I was also thinking splurging on a box of chocs would be nice!

ermintrude I hope it is a wellington without the pate part! Very bad for baby!!

ooh yes Tee, it's just mushrooms so not entirely authentic. Although tbh I'd have risked the pate

Valentine's Day for old married couples like us is always a bit going through the motions - not as exciting as mystery cards and flowers when you're a teenager! But we'd feel a bit miserly if we ignored it and actually I think it's nice for the kids to see us exchange soppy cards. I always get them a little daft chocolate thing too - this year a stick of pink and white heartshaped marshmallows in cellophane - and pretend they were left by a secret admirer, which makes them giggle.

ermintrude I looked with much, much longing at the pate starter on Friday night.

Hi all,

Haven't been op for a while and have been trying to catch up....

Have been in hospital for the past week with dd2 who obstructed her bowel ( one of the incidental problems of her cystic fibrosis) so am absolutely knackered, "sleeping" on a z-bed in her room with the nurses in every hour and her waking with pain or just wanting soothing if the nurses come anywhere near!

She finally pooed on sunday night followin a combination of noxic substances into her stomach and up her bum, which she obviously didn't enjoy.

On the positive front it put my pregnancy niggles right to the bak of my mind, and apart from the odd kick I kind of displaced the fact I was carrying dc3, although I did feel gulity I couldn't go into x ray for procedures with her ( the really nasty up her bum stuff! )

Still we're both home now and just fingers crossed that she carries on pooing as she should!

A few questions I've noticed asked recently,

Breastpumps- I tried a manual with dd1 and was uslesss more due to expectation of what I should produce (milk churn anyone?) But found the medeal swing with dd2 was fab)

Nipple cups- m dsis calls them shells but I think I've seen some in theNCT catalogue.

Jeans- have very comfy fab over the bump ones from red herring at debenhams which were not too expensive either.

Carseats- My biggest concern with travel system carseats is the suggestion that leaving your baby in them for (i think) over 2 hours add to risks for SIDS, and it's not hard to imagine a car trip and shopping taking this long.
We have a britax first class which is from birth to 3 years, dd2 is still within the weight limit for rear facing at 18 months (in the scandinavian block rear facing to age 2 is not unusual due to the increased safety aspects of rear facing!).

Can't think of anything else off and apart from welcome to all the new girls, off for a bath and bed I think ( after I've updated my facebook with the GOOD NEWS)

Oh and I'm 24 weeks today so possibly viable from now on!!!