Over the Moon to be Due in June 2009

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Here's the new thread. Hope you'll find it. There is probably a more up-to-date list of us all at some point in the thread, but I couldn't find it. The newbies will have to add themselves on....

Bumpsadaisie 28th May
CoteDAzur 28 May by dates, 1 June by scan (37, dd 3)
swottybetty 30th May (31. DD 07/03/08)
llynnnn 1st June
Myneaux 1st June
Bigcar 1st June (37, dd 18, dd 9, ds 8, dd3 2)
joyfuleyes 2nd June
marmotti 2nd June
gems27 4th June
Mrs McJnr DC2 4 June 2009 (34, ds 8mths)
Ineedmorechocolatenow 5th June 2009 (31,ds 2)
summerbird 6th June (35, 1st one)
daisy5 6th June (41, dd 2)
LittleSarah 6th June (26, dd 4yrs)
thisisyesterday 6th June (ds1 3.5, ds2 1)
DreamyDorrie 7th June (30, dd 19/11/07)
Yoshimi 7th June (ds 18nths)
Aligard 8th June (one dd)
Leaky 10th June (39, ds1 5, ds2 2.5)
DawnoftheDead DC1 11th June 2009
Champagneforlunch 11th June (27, DD 4yrs)
NickelSodium 12th June
travellinglight 13th June
Sparkle73 13th June
Froggy16 13th June (27 ds 6 yrs dd 4yrs)
Nemoandthefishes 14th June [30 DS 5[+2days],DD1 2.9yrs,dd2 21mths]
Irishmama3 17th of June (36) [dd 9 ds6 and dd2
chocciedooby 18th June (37m ds1 4, ds2 3)
onehitwonder 18th June (41 DD1 3)
ermintrude13 20th June (41, dd10 ds6)
snowwombat 21st June (31)
TTCnumber3maybe (36) DC3 22 June 2009 (DS 4.5 and DS almost 3)
StrawberrySam 22nd June
Diege, 22nd June (38, dd1 7, dd2 5.8, dd3 2.8)
Heebeejeebee - 22nd June (36)
BobsWendy DC3 26 June 2009
TheLittleMermaid DC2 26 June 2009
Tee2072 DC1 26 June 2009 (39)
Sweetie34 - 29th June (37)
Wilsonmummy 28 2dd edd 30th june
mamaolivia 31 dd1 2.6 - due 30th June
NotSoRampantRabbit
tessofthedurbervilles
boundoriginals
helpivegottogivebirth
Li lacpink
mel1981
flynn1984

Thanks for all the kind words.

choccie how do you find the matrix cup? Have you tried putting it in the car yet? It's the only negative I've heard about this pram is that it's a bit fiddly to get the car seat in and that the car seat is a bit heavy.
Planning on going to local pram centre today to see of they've got it there.
It really is a beautiful pram.

Also did you buy it from and ebay shop? I've seen a couple of good deals and the seller has ver good feeback (in the thousands). My only reservation at the moment is if something is wrong with it, can you still deal direct with manufacturer if its been purchased from ebay?

Still really unsure about buying anything in case we jinx things! Most people must feel like this right? I can't be the only neurotic one out there!!...

Morning all.

I'm fine. Hypos are getting to be a normal occurrence. I was mostly just annoyed because it woke me up from my nap!

higrise you will not have any company warranty if you buy through Ebay. This is part of the reason I won't buy things for the baby (other than maybe some clothes) there. The rest of the reason is I just don't trust a lot of those sellers to be telling me the truth about quality etc. I would rather pay full price for piece of mind.

Lynnn hope you are feeling a bit better. It is so hard looking after dcs when you are ill.

ineed you can do anything if you have been through having walls knocked down with dc1!That must have been an interesting time

Highrise tbh I haven't tried the car seat out in the car yet but it seems quite simple. Maybe I a min for a shock! I have another car seat already in case its a complete disaster. I really wanted the matrix cup becuase it has very good safety record and can lay flat in the back seat of car for longer journeys.When I can get out into the front driveway without slipping on ice and new snowfall I will give it a go and let you know how I get on. The seat is quite a bit larger than other conventional seats but I don't mind that. I am planning on using it as a normal seat most of the time in the front of the car and putting the seat directly onto the pushchair chassis. I certainly won't be carrying any car seat around like I have done before as I find them all heavy and don't have a great back!

I am not too sure about warranties in general on ebay but my sale came with a 6 month warranty and I have spoken directly with the seller about this and I am covered via the sale on paypal and ebay!? They have been excellant as regards delivery and after sales service. So far it has been a good experience but I did buy from an actual nursery in Northern Ireland. They seem to sell a lot of ex-display models on there to shift the stock.It may be a different story if I had purchased from a private seller. Then there would be no comeback really.

Hello ladies happy Sunday!

Welcome and congrats Highrise, hope the scan goes well tomorrow and we?ll be looking forward to you coming back and giving us a report those late night nature calls re a pain aren?t they? My baby has moved position and is now kicking my bladder By 24 weeks with DS I had ordered the buggy but there was an 8 week delivery period and it was close to Christmas, I didn?t bring it to the house until I was 36 weeks though. In the end fear of the baby coming early and not being organised got me over my fear of tempting fate!

Tee ? we went to Ikea yesterday but I should have stayed at home! I was violently sick and had to go to bed with a migraine when I got back. Still we looked at what we wanted to. The flat we are looking to move into is totally unfurnished and here that means no light fittings, curtains, nothing! So we were working out how much it would cost us to kit the place out. The kitchen only has one cupboard too so we were looking at sideboards etc. We also looked at the nursery stuff. My DS has the basic cot from there and we have been really happy with it. I didn?t have a change station for him and it has killed my back changing him on a single bed so we were looking at the Leksvik changer above the drawers. Think we?ll get one of those, looks sturdy and the drawers underneath would be handy hope you are feeling much better now.

Ermintrude ? yup, I tried out all my equipment and made sure I knew how to use it all before DS was born. I have to admit, he was 9 days late and I had been told at my natural birthing class that nipple stimulation could bring on labour and by that stage I was up against the clock for induction so I did try it out I was pretty horrified when I got some colostrum and didn?t do it again after that until he was born but was really pleased I?d over come the whole strangeness of pumping from your breasts before I had to use the pump when he was only a few weeks old. I wasn?t contradicting you or trying to be argumentative I was simply trying to give the other ladies the benefit of my experience. I found it quite stressful when people or books said not to express early on because it could mess the whole natural process up when I had to and I was only trying to let others know that even though I had to before BF was established I was still able to BF DS until he self-weaned just before he was 7 months old. Isn?t it funny how babies behave so differently about feeding? My cousin was like your DS, she refused a single drop of milk until her Mummy came home from work fit to burst. So true what you say about mother?s denying they are ill so that they can carry on looking after their DCs, amazing what the human psyche does!

Ineedmore ? so sorry that your DS had such a rough first few weeks that?s interesting what you say about a manual pump, maybe I should get one of those too so that I can give it a go. My DS though 1yr and 2 weeks still has bottles at night and in the morning and this week I have had to chuck out both of his Avent bottles because they split and were leaking so now I am down to a couple of bottles, have to say I reluctant to buy any more for him at his age but may have to. I feel your (and your DS?s pain) on the teething, DS is getting his lower molars at the mo! sounds like you are getting the nesting instinct well and truly! Enjoy!

Choccie ? glad you are happy with your buggy purchase that is a very popular make and model here and I see lots about isn?t it funny how every one?s opinions differ? I hate the P&T?s, don?t like the idea of the baby being so close to the ground. I am looking at the Emmaljunga cerox 360 at the mo having discredited the First Wheels City Twin after all the bad things I read about the chassis, front wheels and handle. Was disappointed as I did like the look of the First Wheels but want a sturdy buggy that will last. When I was pg with DS I didn?t even consider doubles even though we knew we wanted more kids, I guess we thought it would be tempting fate but this time round we thought we?d better get a good sturdy double as we are hoping for more kids after this one! I am feeling so like you did when your were pg for the 2nd time with a young toddler!

Juicy ? your nursery plans sounds lovely with DS (didn?t know he was a boy) I decided on a jungle theme and every few days I typed ?jungle? into eBay to see what came up, it was a lot of fun collecting things! I?m getting a bit tired again too; think it is probably the extra weight of the baby at this stage.

Llynnnn ? poor you! Hope you are feeling much better very soon.

MrsMcJ I didn't think for a moment that you were beig argumentative; I was very interested in the idea that you were able to express before birth (LOL @ you being slightly horrified and putting it away at once . It is a weird thing to be doing before you get used to it). But I should have twigged that mums with prem babies are encouraged to express colostrum at anything from 24 wks so of course it's possible. The general advice is to avoid baby getting confused or supply being badly affected; sometimes it's necessary to break 'the rules' like you did, for the best of reasons.

The very thought of kitting out a new flat - which would normally fill me with glee - is exhausting right now! Hope you are over your migraine and find all you need at lovely Ikea.

Tee and choccie I agree it has to be safety first with baby kit like car seats. If buying from ebay it's really important to check the sellers' records and background. I'd certainly rather not buy those sorts of things from a private seller, just to be on the safest of safe sides - a nursery store that's shifting stock all the time is much better.

We all went swimming this morning. My DC fell about laughing at the sight of me in my costume. DS was concerned that I might sink .

Yes I am not that keen on the Phil&Ted - they seem a bit mechanical for me and as you say MrsMcJ so close to the ground. We just ordered our new electric blue canvas covers for the Bugaboo and buggy board, so I am committed to getting my daughter to walk more. I am not that confident it is going to work though so shall keep an eye out for cheapie double buggies to keep as backup in the garage for those days when lots of walking required. The thing is, although cheaper, good double buggies don't seem to be ultra cheap on ebay...but shall keep looking. MrsMcJ - a good friend of mine really liked her Emuljunga, but I haven't seen many around here.

My latest decision is not to buy a special changing table, but instead find a children's chest of drawers with a flat top at the right height. A friend has one from IKEA that looked fantastic www.ikea.com/gb/en/catalog/products/00067830 - so I might check that out. It may be a bit high though for some people. The thing is, when changing my DD I never stepped away from her, so it doesn't need to have special sides imo. I like those beige change mats from Mothercare with the sloping sides - they really kept dd in place well.

The hand pump drove me insane, as I was spending about 2 hours a day expressing (trying to up production you see - I had to keep back up in the freezer too for when I ran out, but I don't think this is a very common problem - although if you have a child that 'sicks up' occasionally it can be quite handy, as your boobs may be low after a feed) so this time as I am going to treat myself to an electric pump. Everyone says to get Medala - but there are several types. It looks a bit odd too. Any opinions anyone?

One of my hot tips for new mums, is to put all your friends and families birthdays and anniversaries into birthdayalarms.com - then you get an email a week before to warn you. Also buy a big supply of cards and stamps to keep at home. It has really been a huge help.

Hope you start to feel better lynnn

daisy5 I found that a great way to encourage DS to get out of his buggy was to get him a scooter. We got him a cheapie metal 2-wheeled one from Amazon and it did the trick - after that he never wanted to be pushed. Admittedly he might not have wanted to buggy-board either, but it solved the initial problem! (Also, for both DD and DS, as soon as they got the hang of scooting well, they went off their stablisers on bikes; I think it teaches them a lot about balance and momentum that translates well from scooter to other 2-wheeled transport).

Breast pumps - I suspect part of the reason I liked manual was because I'm a control freak and couldn't give my breasts up to an electric one! I could express 6oz in 20 mins twice a day with a hand pump which was all I needed for the days I was in work. Other posters have recommended Medala pumps though.

birthdayalarms.com sound good. Although really we should be saying that now is the time to hand over the birthday book to our DP or DH and let him deal with it for a change. Ha flipping ha, when would that ever happen?

I am miserable tonight. Is anyone on this thread getting the supposed 2nd Trimester burst of energy? Personally I'm exhausted and feel really ill tonight.

Someone tell me how wonderful you feel!!

Ermintrude if only you could express in advance of the birth and fill the freezer with milk to back you up on those nights when you are too tired to produce much! Now that would be organisation Migraine gone thanks. I get my cosi on each Thurs for DS?s swimming class and look like a beached whale especially next to the Marbella nannies in their teensy bikinis I can just imagine how many cards would get sent if I put DH in charge ? none!

Daisy ? I LOVE that blue, it looks so smart I have seen people here with little stool like seats attached to their bugaboos, don?t know who makes them but they seem like a good half way house. A friend has recommended and Out n About Nipper but I haven?t looked into it yet. I changed DS on top of a chest of drawers when he was little, it was fine but I am looking at the Leksvik changing table on top of drawers www.ikea.com/gb/en/catalog/products/S19842534 it looks really useful. I thought my Medela swing breast pump was great, it was light, easy to sterilise and to balance if feeding and expressing at the same time (to increase supply) I can recommend it you sound like me on the birthday and card front I have a wall chart in the kitchen and at the start of each month I write all the envelopes my sis does Phoenix cards and she sends me batches at a time

Tee ? sorry you feel low hon, not feeling excellent here have to say, just tired but that is just the stage we are at, there is a lot going on in there, we?ll feel better in a few weeks

Hi Tee.
Sorry you are not feeling so great.
I have not had huge bursts of energy to be honest and do get tired every afternoon.

I am also very irritable and tearful. The slightest thing is rocking my boat today and dh is driving me aaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrgggggggggghhhhhhhh

Tee I hope your feeling better soon xI too have not had the second trimester burst of energy I get tired and very irritble very quickly and in my bed at 8 every night (although I watch dvd's till 10!)

Morning everyone else, need to try and catch up on the weekend posts!

Well Greenock finally got snow this morning, and I decided to try and get to work, I managed to get in but nearly crashed twice due to the roads being icy and my brakes not working right (even though it's a brand new car I have) and I'm dreading attempting to get home as I live at the top of a steep hill which never gets gritted by the Council roll on 5 so I can get home and never leave again

Tee - also hope you are feeling better today. Will a fresh orange / piece of chocolate help?

They work for me (esp chocolate - I could eat a box of Ferrero Rochers daily, I think, and pre-pregnancy not too "bovvered").

Flyn1984 - please do take care, sounds like really bad weather conditions. Hope you can get home safely!

Not sure what is wrong w me, but I cried when I read that ineedmorechocolate (? a few pages back now) had a fall last week. Then cried again this morning reading about the bushfires in Australia. Clearly the hormones are out of control!

Speaking of out of control, am I the only one who is probably bustier than Pamela Anderson around about now?? Its a bit wrong! I caught DH staring at them three times yesterday, God help me!

MrsMcJnr - you are an inspiration with your organisation! I am not quite as organised as you, but am also a believer in stocking up on cards etc, and I do love the odd list, or two! Which I now need to use all the time as have v poor memory (in case it wasn't v obvious!).

Spoke to DH yesterday, and now am researching double/twin prams as we are thinking (optimistically?!) of going "back to back" and I only ever want to buy one pram (optomistic again?!). Feel free to snigger/giggle if you have had similar thoughts but ended up buying 4 or more. So... the research begins again, which is a bit annoying as had only just worked out single pram.

Anyway, lovely to read the posts and see us all supporting and exchanging information. I really enjoy/appreciate MN, and esp this post. Fab that we are all at the same stage and I seem to see posts popping up addressing issues that I have just started to think about - terrific! All tips going into my big spreadsheet!

Ineed thanks for the link, I've emailed them for a leaflet.

(CAT is a "contact another mumsnetters service" (costs £5), not sure how it works.)

I didn't get a chance to catch up with the thread properly over the weekend and there is no snow as an excuse to skip work today ;)

Tee I hope you're feeling better!

bunny I burst into tears after asking my bro for the 100th time when him and my dad were coming to visit. I am so dissapointed that it looks like they're going to miss all of my pregnancy (just because they can't be bothered to sit down and figure a date out between them.)
In the end I told them "fine, you know what I'll send you a pic of the baby when it's born..."
I was crying so much you would have thought someone had died, dh really did not know what to do anymore to console me.
We made pizza, that did the trick ;)

Hormones have a lot to answer for!

hi all, writing this from bed, headache & pains at the sides of my tummy last night. Had a truely lovely day yesterday shopping with dh then yummy lunch with my parents a gorg beef Wellington (no pate added!) now I feel poo :0(

I guess the reason why a lot of us feeling under the weather/ teary are we are getting bigger & our bodies are doing a lot of work - as long as baby is ok!

I am going appologize in advance for not directing my MSG to the person who asked a particular question but I am replying on my phone as soon as I scroll up my reply dissapears!!!??

Bunnymother- think you mentioned boobs? Well mine were 32j before pregnancy- now haven't got a clue? They are defo more 'there' now, men can't help themselves but have a look, my dh has taken to literally grabbing or leaning on mine- I have pointed out many times that it's not the most comfortable thing!

Tee was it you or has a huge hill to master in the car to make it home? Please take care hun, what is wrong with our council's?

All this buggy talk is so exciting! Good luck with double buggy! And this bugaboo seat type things sounds so exciting- please tell more!!!!!

Think I will ask dh to get me some magazines & choc to cheer me up :0),oh ladies did you know holly willouby is having a little on in June- wonder if she will turn up on our post?!

Sorry if I have missed any threads- take care all x

June honey- don't beat yourself up on the whole ' when are you coming to visit thing' it's more than reasonable to want to know when your family are coming to see your DC. I have the opposite problem, pil wanting to come & stay at my house for 2(!!!) weeks when baby comes, not even being asked - being told! I am sure your emotions are running as high as mine with opposite problems. X

Afternoon all

Tee, lynnnn, MrsMcJnr, hope you are all having a better day today. Sorry Tee, can't say I'm felling that great, pretty tired, irritable and prone to the odd bout of uncontrollable sobbing. BUT absolutely loving the amount baby is moving about now, something that I never tire of (even in the middle of the night)

MrsMcJnr, have you looked at the mountain buggy urban double? That would be my first choice if I was planning on long term use, unfortunately I can't justify the expense for this lo as dd3 will be 3 next month so have just gone for a cheap umbrella fold double. We sat dd3 in all the doubles in mothercare (she was not amused!) and this was the one that gave her the most room and yet was not one of the wider ones, loved the fact it has a carrycot option and adjustable handle. It's biggest downside I think is the weight. I'm not a p&t lover either, they seem to have the whole marmite effect don't they?! One of my friends has one and absolutely loves it, I had a go but found I kept knocking my shins on the lower seat unit, very easy to manoeuvre though.

Bunnymother, I currently have 3 singles and a double all for varying reasons! I must admit to slight pramaholic tendancies

I can't get my head round the fact i'm 24 weeks now, that 3rd trimester is getting close I'm seeing the consultant next week, not really sure why, just hadn't realised when I got the letter through that it's half term so will be fun trying to organise childcare for this one!

Drive home carefully flynn.

Juicygirlpink OMG, 2 weeks with PILS at your house after the birth! Noooooo. DH must stop them!

My folks all came down for a daytrip to coo at the new LOs a few days after the births, then with DD they waited 2 wks unti DH was back in work and then stayed with us for a week doing all the cooking, cleaning and housework while I fed the baby. It was lovely. It wouldn't have been so relaxing if they were in-laws though. And at first you'll want space to bond as a new family. I really hope your DH can put them off or at least postpone them a bit, get them to stay elsewhere etc.

June - so, two men are hopeless at organising when to come and see you? . Why are they so rubbish about that sort of thing? Hope they get the big hint and sort themselves out, and that you don't get upset about it again.

I've started being sick again and feeling sick all day. It never entirely went away but had got a lot better. Boo!

Hi All

Well the total baby uncomfortable feeling has been joined by a cold. Yeah, I'm pretty miserable here at work today!

Well, my DH's PILs, i.e. my parents, will be staying with us for 2 weeks after the baby is born. But they won't be coming until I tell them too and my mum will do things like cook and clean! If my in-laws want to come stay it won't be for 2 weeks, as I always have to wait on them when they visit!

Oh june - i got upset with some of the things that family did, or didn't do. Could you try saying 'fine, well I won't name the baby after you if you can't be bothered to visit'

My parents wanted to come over and stay in our two bedroom house - Dad has memory problems and both of them are good at getting lost, can't shop, don't clean or cook much anymore - I had to say 'no' in the nicest possible way, as I would have been looking after three people and not just one. I never could have coped. I felt so bad and promised to visit home asap.

This time my aunt and uncle (neither blood relations due to divorce and both quite balmy) wanted to come and stay within a month of the baby being born. I had to say 'come and stay for a night' but if all is not well, I may have to cancel at the last minute. They have not even responded since so clearly noses out of joint.

Pregnancy and babies can create all kinds of difficult scenarios as high emotions involved. I think you have done the right thing. Best to speak your mind and tell them you are less than pleased.

Daisy my parents sound a bit like yours now - Mum used to be completely on the ball and competent so was great helping out 10 yrs ago when I had DD, but Dad is quite disabled now and she's much more absent-minded, so having them to stay is a lot of work, and new mums can really do without that to cope with. Fortunately she knows that so wouldn't impose. DH's parents have actually booked a holiday right when the baby is due, which he's rather embarrassed about but I'm relieved .

Well done for being firm but polite with aunty and uncle; what a shame they didn't understand your reasons. Do you think people just forget what it's like to be looking after a new baby? I'm always amazed at the stories I hear about family members imposing themselves after the birth. Still, there are lots of nice, sensitive family and friends who will call round with cake and champagne and never make extra work or outstay their welcome.

Family huh...sour subject here!

My SIL asked wether she could christen the baby! I thought that was a bit forward and we just kind of didn't answer. (We knew before conception who we would ask, and that's not her).

I've already told dh I don't want visitors for the first two weeks after giving birth as I know sil and bil will probably want to be around all the time like they do now but honestly they're not helpful whatsoever and I know I will have to clear up after them as well.
Bil thinks putting dirty dishes in the sink qualifies as "clearing up" after himself, I pointed out (to no avail) that you don't need a degree to put stuff in the dishwasher.
Yesterday evening him and dh kindly left a big pile of washing up in the sink because the dishwasher was full (of clean stuff!!! What about putting the clean stuff away and then putting the dirty stuff in??)

In other news we got a doppler from tesco and it's rubbish, taking it back tonight, any recommendations for another one?

Just realised I sound horrible on my last post, I am a nice person really :D (where's the "angel" icon?)

June sounds like your DH needs to get his family under control, and if he doesn't he'll have to take responsibility for clearing up after them! Is his sister a vicar? Ouch, there's nothing worse than these tricky family situations; the thing is, the pushy insensitive ones who ask awkward questions are bound to be the ones you want to avoid - while the laid-back, accepting types are always the ones you want. You'd have thought people would twig this. I suppose it's part of life's rich tapestry.

Anyway, we don't think you're nasty, one of the great things about MN is the chance to get things off your chest - then you can carry on being delightful to annoying people in RL

lovely ladies, just woken up still with the sore head this is so annoying!
So back to pil- mine do my head in!!!! When our baby comes it will be my parents first & only gc (my parents live an hour away). But already my wonderful mother has said that she will wait to be invited to our house to see baby & that she doesn't expect to stay unless we ask her. She is such a wonderful person since I fell pregnant she has cooked us frozen meals to take home & not made me feel stupid about niggly pregnancy things- almost crying now bless her! My dad goes along with anything always has a private moment & asks how I am doing & ALWAYS says how good I look! I would have them here in a flash but they insist on not doing things that would 'out do' my pil. When I told my mum about what mil had suggested (I.e. Staying in my house for 2 weeks) my mum invited then to stay with her so, with dh support at last this is the plan. (I was so anxious about the subject I was dredding baby coming how awful is that?) my pil came to stay (for a week at Xmas , when I had the worst flu of my life & didn't offer to go home early!) the subject came up about when baby comes - I said my parents had offered to have them stay there & all they could say is you might need us!!!! (have to point out they stay as long as they want - my fil made me cry this Xmas that was the final straw!)

Anyway ladies I am really sorry for the rant, I really upsets me sometimes, very hard to discuss so thankful we have this site the other thing I will say is that I really feel for those if you whose parents can't be there (for what ever reason) I think this subject is hard for every new mummy x

Erm- thanks for your kind words glad I am not being a crazy pregnant bird! Such as shame that my dh doesn't pick up on things & I have to s p e l l i t o u t!!!

Tee- I am so pleased that you can have your family there supporting you, without feeling you have to have pil over to match - how did you work that? Think what I may do once pil have done their stint & dh is back at work have my mum over for a few nights- I could see it being such as special time that I refuse to miss out o.

June- well done on being assertive with your b&s il shame he didn't take it on board & no one here thinks you are being out of order, look at what I have just said!!!!!

Yikes I wrote so much I ran out of phone space LOL!!!
The next thing I was going to say was I hope we are feeling much better tomorrow - no sickness please x x