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December 2008 Once you pop you can't stop

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Veggiemummy · 10/12/2008 18:23

surely most of us will go on this one

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EffiePerine · 27/12/2008 07:45

Lovely to hear from you Lowri and congratulations on your baby boy, but at the way you were treated - would you consider complaining to the hospital? It sounds like several things combined to give you a shitty experience . How are you recovering now?

simmo14 · 27/12/2008 08:54

Hi all. Hope you had a lovely Christmas. No sign of a baby here over Christmas but I have been awake since 5.30am this morning with stomach cramps and mild contractions. Just started timing them on some website.
Maybe this little girl will arrive on time.
Congratulations to Disenchanted, Reban and Summer Lightning ony our Christmas babies and also waiting girl (no longer waiting!!) and lowrib. I am sorry for the birth experience you had lowrib. It seems so unfair when you have no choice in your midwife. With DS I had some one whho they had brought out of retirement and she had the biggest hands ever . But she was really nice.

Right I think I may go for a bath and try and slow down anything that is happening in order to allow my Mum to make it down here. Will post an update later. Simmo x

LadyThompson · 27/12/2008 09:57

Hello girls, just grabbing some some time whilst DP and LO are still asleep.

Lowrib, congratulations on your boy of course, but I am so awfully sorry you had to suffer so much to have him. It doesn't seem right in this day and age - I really think you should make an official complaint about how things were. I do think that sometimes hospitals are more laissez-faire about maternity care as they think people are less likely to complain because even if they have a bad experience, they are less likely to kick up a fuss as they have a beautiful baby at the end of it to distract from from so doing. My anesthetist told me that epidurals are the most sophisticated pain relief in the world (in terms of their lack of side effects on your body) - IF they work. It's a big if isn't it? Anyway, there's no comeback on that particular issue as it's a luck thing but I do think you should tackle them about the rest when you are up to it. I know it can't change it but it might make you feel better. In a similar vein, I hope Waiting Girl is ok. I am going to text her in a minute.

Ooh - and hope you get the birth you want, Ice. Beaming you good luck vibes all the way from the frosty countryside.

Congrats are also in order to Summer (gorgeous name, Edmund, on my list if we had a boy), Disenchanted (Aurora was on my list too!), Nolda (another big boy, lovely) and our ZJ for Eloise (delightful. Another elegant name for our thread.)

KMP, that remedy sounds good and a bit more interesting than the ones available here. For now, I find Dentinox is better than Infacol and has the advantage that you can use it after a feed instead of just before (although DD spat it out at first as the taste is quite strange). As I said to PoisonDwarf, I find that holding DD flattish after a feed foe a couple of minutes and THEN burping her allows the wind to build up a tad and then it's easier to get rid of. But maybe that's just me - different strokes for different folks and all that. Good luck and I hope you are enjoying having your family with you.

Effie - leather slippers sound nice, actually. Mind you, a leather corset also sounds nice. Although I need something more robust and industrial, I think. (Stainless steel might do the trick). I can remember being so scathing, particularly in my twenties, about dressing for mere comfort. Ha! And now I go into paroxysms of delight about pyjama bottoms with a drawstring, which I seem to have worn almost continually for the last few weeks.

Lovely to have you back, dear Chutney, albeit briefly! Great about the driving, I am envious. I suppose I will have to resurrect my driving and book a refresher/retest (collective yawn). However, if I go back to London to do that, which I am minded to, I don't know what I will do with DD as DP has quite a few trials in the early part of next year. But once he goes back to work properly I will effectively be a prisoner in the flat - the village doesn't even really have that many pavements so I can't go for a proper trot round with the buggy, as I am nervous of walking in the road as the cars fly around corners. It's a good job I enjoy listening to the radio

I had some lovely books for Christmas but not really had a chance to curl up with them yet. I am thinking I will get to read them in about 2023 or so. Christmas Day was lovely but DD was unsettled and windy and we didn't have our lunch until 5.30. And yesterday some friends who were up from Cornwall wanted to see us so our restful day went up the Swannee. Their two kids are aged 3 and 18 months and I must admit they seemed like very hard work after little O....

We are going up to see MiL on the 30th for a night. She is having a dinner party that evening and wants my DD to be the, er, cherry on the cake as it were. In fact she wants us to go up for two nights on the 29th, but I am not sure I can handle it. I feel mean. I will actually do whatever DP would like and not moan (out loud). But truly, the mere THOUGHT of it raises my blood pressure. I wish I could be zen about it all. It's her grandchild. But she is SOOOOOOOO irritating...

Have a super day all.

Turniphead1 · 27/12/2008 11:52

Hi all. I am still waiting (3 days over - so not much, but it seems like a lot when some of you have had your babies for a whole month . I was up for quite a bit of last night with mild contractions, but nothing regular and all seemed to die down. Ho hom. Simmo/ effie maybe we are up next? (there aren't many of us left)

LadyT sorry LO was unsettled on Christmas Day - its tough when you want to sit down and enjoy your lunch. I can see why you are grr about having to do two nights at the mil - two seems plenty!

Congrats to all those with very recent babies - Reban DBP WG and Summer - such wonderful wonderful news. Some people kepy saying to me on the run up - oh won't it be so horrible if the baby has his birthday on Christmas Day. I was very clear that I didn't think so, in fact quite magical and lovely!

KMP - hope the boobs have settled down - that sounds pretty grim for you and baby.

My sister has been here over Christmas and has been a total legend. She has done all the cooking, helped me with the DC - and indeed has taken them out with my Dad today to see The Snowman in the west end. I am gutted not to be able to go, but am just too big and uncomfortable to manage the theatre. My father on the otherhand has been...er less than helpful but hey ho. I really hope the baby arrives on my Sister's watch (rather than MiL who arrives on New Years Day).

My DH is being great too - after quite a big row a couple of days before Christmas!

I hope everyone had a lovely relaxing Christmas (well as much as you can with a newborn) and that those waiting don't have to wait much longer! SEnd me some labour vibes. Would love to have this baby this weekend. Can't wait to hear Bisou's news too. I know if nothing happened she was to be induced yesterday.

Oh - and a BIG thank you to my secret santa (squirrel) for the gorgeous Body Shop toiletries. I did post when the parcel was received but put it under the tree and waited to open it!

EffiePerine · 27/12/2008 12:10

Mild niggles here as well - like Turnip had crampy pains last night bt not much happening now. Waiting to see if it's worth ringing MIL as our childminder has taken her family off to the panto somewhere in deepest Sussex

Good luck to Turnip and Simmo

kayzr · 27/12/2008 12:25

Congratulations to all the new mummies and babies!!

Good luck to everyone with niggles!!

MW came for the last time yesterday. I actually found it quite sad as she is lovely and I've really enjoyed our chats over last 9 months or so.

Dylan has put on more weight and is now 10lb 3oz so only 2oz off his birth weight.

So now going to have HV round to weigh him instead. She doesn't think babies should be mixed fed so will have to just ignore her rambling.

Hope everyone is ok.

CatDean · 27/12/2008 13:04

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IceCube · 27/12/2008 13:33

I am excited to report I have had a small show and a few niggles, not much but it?s a sign the sweep did something to help me progress so hopefully the early stages of my induction tomorrow will work and I won?t have to have the drip on Monday. Thanks for all the good vibes, nice when I know everyone is so busy with their new babies and Xmas.

Lowrib ? that?s exactly what I want to avoid with my induction and it shouldn?t happen like that, everyone?s advice about complaining once you have your new baby settled and can face writing a decent letter sounds good. I have talked to caring NHS staff who hate it when they hear about experiences like this that aren?t reported in a formal way as they have to work with/pick up the pieces for these staff. I?m also puzzled by the timing of your birth as my hospital use the prostaglandin on day 1 and if this doesn?t work they leave you to get a nights sleep before hooking up the drip the following morning. Sounds like you really drew the short straw, but at least you and baby are ok and you can start to enjoy cuddling him.

traceface · 27/12/2008 15:06

hello again!
I'm back from my travels and back on-line! Congratulations to all those who've had their babies over Christmas - how special and exciting!!!!
Well I had 2 lovely days with my parents and sister - very relaxing, good food, good company...even reasonable sleep one night! Then we had 1 day with the out-laws...aaaggghhh! FIL still will only call Phoebe "the baby" - but DH did tell him off for it - and everyone wanted to cuddle her all the time "it's my turn now" - GRAB!!! gggrrr. I wanted to scream "she's mine, just let me hold her!", especially when she was niggly, and I just thought 'hold her up a bit, rub her back, then she'll settle', which actually made me realize I maybe know my baby better than I thought I did. Does that sound daft? Sometimes she's like a stranger and I've no idea to calm her, but I'm starting to read her signals a bit. She's still a puker, but I'm getting better at not feeding her every time she's rooting, which just made tings worse. She takes the dummy quite well, although FIL said it was 'cruel' of me to give her a dummy.
Anyway, home now and just have to try to fit the results of christmas back into our little house...the clutter is killing me!!!

Can I ask those who've had their babies... are you still feeling weepy? I am finding that everyday starts fine then by tea time I'm in tears. Thought that should maybe have stopped by now (day 16), although I am already on anti depressants - is anyone else still wobbly after this long? I worry too that something's going to happen to Phoebe then get really scared - do you think that's normal hormonal stuff? It might be tiredness - she still has a BF every 2 hours day and night so am feeling rather weary too.

well must go and make a cuppa to revive myself...

back soon xxx

EffiePerine · 27/12/2008 15:42

Cat: sounds like colic, DS was like this. They DO grow ot of it but it is v v v wearing. Have you tried what we called the sleeping panther hold - you kind of drape the baby tummy down over your forearm (DH was good at this) while pacing around, I think it soothes their tummy. The other thing was that I did find some things I ate made things worse (again, some people will tell you this is utter balls, but worth a try) - for me it was red wine (bah), chocolate (BAH) and anything spicy. Will try and find a link to the hold...

Mild cramps about every 15 mins here, think things are moving but will prob be quite a while. Good, cos childminder is back home this evening after dinner, so will be available for emergency night care if needed. I'm thinking it might be tomorrow, which is kind of nice as it's our 10th wedding anniversary and sorts the present dilemma . Having said that I'll prob still be here mid-Jan snarling at everyone!

EffiePerine · 27/12/2008 15:45

www.ehow.com/how_2060273_hold-colicky-baby.html

for Cat: the 3rd hold sounds like the one that worked for us

back to cleaning and listening to Laura Cantrell

missmama · 27/12/2008 17:28

Seem to be followng you round today Effie

Your hold seems to be similar to the one we were taught for DS2 'Tiger in The Tree'
Hold LO face down in your hand with the trunk of their body balanced down your arm and arms and legs just dangling over the sides. They just lie there so contented, but they are ideally placed for winding and changing the angle that you are holding them at for how they seem to be most comfortable.

Veggiemummy · 27/12/2008 17:41

Hooray Effie sounds like it's your go!

Lowrib so sorry for your experience. Please complain as nothing will change unless you do. Contact the PALS office at your hospital as they will make sure the complaint is followed up. You are amazing for getting though with effectively no pain relief I would not have been able to do it. Moving about and all the other stuff was what got ds2 out I couldn't have done it on my back. I didn't even know they still had stirrups. That women shouldn't be practicing.

Trace I'm not do much weepy anymore buy am def scared something will happen to him. Everytime I stand at the top of our stairs ready to come down I get this horrible image of tripping and falling down and him flying out of my arms. It was the same with ds1 and at the time I didn't realize it was normal and I thought I was going crazy until I mentioned it to DH and he was so relieved as he had been having similar things except for he kept imagining people trying attack ds & I while were out and he spent the first month ready to pounce with a karate chop whenever we went out for a walk.

We are picking my mum up from the airport tomorrow so may not be on much for a while but will check for births. I'm sure Bisou has had hers we have had a few births and she hasn't been on to update very not like her. Hope it all goes well for her and Effie. Sending contraction thoughts to you Turnip.

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Veggiemummy · 27/12/2008 17:43

Hooray Effie sounds like it's your go!

Lowrib so sorry for your experience. Please complain as nothing will change unless you do. Contact the PALS office at your hospital as they will make sure the complaint is followed up. You are amazing for getting though with effectively no pain relief I would not have been able to do it. Moving about and all the other stuff was what got ds2 out I couldn't have done it on my back. I didn't even know they still had stirrups. That women shouldn't be practicing.

Trace I'm not do much weepy anymore buy am def scared something will happen to him. Everytime I stand at the top of our stairs ready to come down I get this horrible image of tripping and falling down and him flying out of my arms. It was the same with ds1 and at the time I didn't realize it was normal and I thought I was going crazy until I mentioned it to DH and he was so relieved as he had been having similar things except for he kept imagining people trying attack ds & I while were out and he spent the first month ready to pounce with a karate chop whenever we went out for a walk.

We are picking my mum up from the airport tomorrow so may not be on much for a while but will check for births. I'm sure Bisou has had hers we have had a few births and she hasn't been on to update very not like her. Hope it all goes well for her and Effie. Sending contraction thoughts to you Turnip.

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Veggiemummy · 27/12/2008 17:46

Ooh sorry for double post

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EffiePerine · 27/12/2008 17:48

things slowing down again ... will wait and see . Dh has been great, looking after DS so I can have a kip.

Turniphead1 · 27/12/2008 19:04

Clary Sage bath didn't seem to do much. Have booked a pedicure for tomorrow on the basis of sod's law maybe helping.

trace welcome back! You did well not to deck your FiL. Dummies cruel indeed...whatever next! I was pretty weepy for a full two weeks or more with DC1. I did find deep breaths and Bachs rescue remedy helped when I felt a weeping fit coming on - I know you are on anti-Ds too but might help. It will pass soon I hope. Take care

Icecube sounds like you are all set to go - hopefully the drip won't be necessary!

Cat sorry you are having a tough time at that uncivilised hour. I second what others say about tiger in the tree hold. A good way for DHs to help while you sleep. Hope tonight is better.

Veggie enjoy your Mum's visit. I am sure you can't wait to show off your new DS!

EffiePerine · 27/12/2008 19:29

That's a thought: have some clary sage in the cupboard

CatDean · 27/12/2008 19:31

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EffiePerine · 27/12/2008 19:33

I think we used Infacol which did help sometimes

Turniphead1 · 27/12/2008 19:34

Effie hope it works for you! I actually think I am probably just having strong BHs and will be induced at 40 plus 12 (5 Jan) which is what they are talking about (unless I feel strongly about waiting the full two weeks )....

SummerLightning · 27/12/2008 19:49

Hello everyone!!
As jj said my little Edmund William was born on Xmas day by emergency c-section, at about 6am (still not sure exactly what time it was!), 6lbs 10oz.
Got out yesterday afternoon, they let me out early, hooray!! Feeling ok considering, bf going well, just looking forward to getting more mobile now, and it not taking ages to get out of bed, etc.

Birth story, so what happened - XMas Eve my waters started going slowly while I was walking over to my friends house, before that I thought I was having just discharge and it was a show. So carried on round to my friends house, as it is only 5 mins away, had a glass of champagne to celebrate Xmas , came home, and rang the hospital, was all set up for a homebirth, and I thought that they would just say to go to sleep and call again when progressed, but instead they said they would send round a midwife to assess me. The midwife took one look at my pad and said that my waters had meconium in them and that I had to go to hospital straight away at least to be monitored.

So was not too pleased at this point, as homebirth was suddenly not going to happen, but was optimistic that they would just check me over and send me home for the night as nothing was happening. But when I got to hospital it quickly became clear that that was not going to happen, and that they would keep me in and would want to induce me straight away because of the meconium. Up until this point I had always said that I wasn't that bothered about whether a homebirth happened, but it had all gone so wrong so quickly that I was quite upset, espeically as I felt ok, and it was only that morning that a midwife had been saying to me that often overdue babies have meconium in the waters and there is actually nothing wrong, and she had actuallly said jokingly "make sure your waters go in the pool so they can't see it!"

So i was convinced there was nothing wrong, they monitored me for a bit and every time I had a (very mild) contraction, the babies heart rate was dropping. They said this was a bad sign but not really why. They also found out that my waters hadn't gone completely, so I agreed to let them break teh rest of my waters, if they would give me a couple of hours to let things get going naturally afterwards before inducing me. But then they monitored me more and contractions got a bit more regular and they sent in SHOs, registrars, senior registrars, etc, and said that his HR was dropping more and so they would have to induce me straight away. I could tell at this point that they were getting a bit worried and already wondering whether he would have to come out by c-section.
so as expected the drip thingy got everything moving very quickly and contraction started to really hurt, and the babies heart rate was dropping even more every time. All gets a bit hazy from here, but at some point I agreed to a c-section, signed form, etc. But then they decided that they might be able to give me longer if they could get a sample from his head so they could do some tests to see if he was genuinely distressed. Unfortunately I wasn't very dilated so this wasn't going to be easy, they decided to get my feet up on stirrups and THEN find out that they didn't have the right light to do it with. (On finding this out I have a vague memory of saying "Oh for F*s sake" out loud! I remember the whole thing really hurting and telling them they had to stop so one of the midwives told me to just keep on breathing the gas and air deeply. I gave this a try and before I knew it I thought I was in a weird hallucinating nightmare type scenario from which I had to wake up from or I would be trapped in it forever. I had no idea gas and air could do this!! Apparently this in the real world involved me removing my feet forcibly from the stirrups, landing on about 5 health professionals and telling them all to eff off as they tried to hold me down and carry on!! I now have a healthy respect for gas and air, I thought it was just meant to "take the edge off the pain"!!

Anyway they then must have decided that I was too much of a pain in the bum, and that I should have a c-section after all (I don't remember really) and I got taken to theatre. After a probably typical trauma getting the epidural in between contractions (which didn't happen, am sure I nearly broke nice midwives hands trying not to move) the c-section was straightforward. I seem to remember them playing the song that goes "You'll be begging me for mercy, why don't you release me"...over and over again though, I suppose they thought this was amusing . Good job I didn't notice it before the epidural went in as I don't think I would've found it funny!

Yikes, that was long. Am going to post it now before I lose it and then do catch up post!! Overall it was an ok experience considering, though obviously not really the nice homebirth I was hoping for! But it doesn't matter as me and the little one are both fine. And he is lovely .

Veggiemummy · 27/12/2008 19:53

Oh yeah Trace meant to say how is using a dummy cruel?him calling the lovely Pheobe 'the baby' that's cruel not letting her have something that makes her feel good. Weirdo.

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Veggiemummy · 27/12/2008 20:01

Wow SL that all sounded a bit full on, but healthy baby at the end of it all. Did they ever decide whether it was 'genuine distress'. Sorry you didn't get your homebirth but nice that they let you home early and congratulatons.

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SummerLightning · 27/12/2008 20:09

So congrats to all the other festive babies - reban, disenchented, lowri and looking forward to hearing from waitinggirl the other christmas day baby!!

lowri i too think you should complain about that midwife..She sounds like she shouldn't be working to me! I don't know how you could do 10 minutes on that horrible hormone drip with your feet in stirrips let alone 12 hrs!!

Am also awaiting news from Bisou with baited breath. Perhaps another Xmas day baby??

IceCube i hope things have gone well for you.

Good luck to all those still waiting, especially those sounding imminent!!

Have got to go now as I think the little one may be waking up!! He seems to be sleeping most of the time at the moment, how long will that last?!

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