Due Dec 08 - Christmas inductions ... The Holly and The I.V.

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Here I have done it!!!!!

Just need more babies now!!!!!

Oh I do Veggie I would really like 4 but DH is a bit unsure on having that many. I have said that if DC3 is a girl then I will give in and stop at 3.

Cat - not sure your DS would suit Emily or Florence!!!!

oh Trace i love Guinea pig we had thousands when i was a kid (the original 2 were supposed to be the same sex). You look so good and your face has stayed nice and slim, mine is so puffy, we took some photos of me and bump and DS kissing bump the other day but think i will keep them as a reminder for me rather than public viewing (like birth photos) as my face looks terrible and puffy.

DH and I have been watching all the credits in movies we have been watching lately in the hope of seeing a name we like for veggiebaby.

Gorgeous Guinea Pigs Trace, I want some. I was planning on getting DS a hamster for Christmas (I loved them as a kid, still do) but with 2 cats and a dog I don'tthink it would be a great idea!

Love the guinea pig piccies Trace! Not sure I should ever be the main care giver of such animals, given what happened to Binkie, my hamster when I was 12 (think I forgot to feed her - still feel guilty about it). I need something BIG like a dog that won't let me forget to feed it. Babies work on this principle too I guess!

Love the pic of your DD in that Next dress. My DD got such great wear out of it - hope it still fits this summer.

A friend of mine has rabbits and they are a lot more complicated than you'd expect, they can have nbig teeth and feeding issues. Guinea pigs sound a better idea to me

katie sounds like a bit of a shocker for you yesterday - hope you're feeling better today.

No update from Lal? Hope everything's going okay.

trace my understanding of a stretch & sweep is that the sac membrane is resting on the top of your cervix like an inflated balloon and the midwife/doctor inserts a finger and kind of pushes the membrane away from the cervix, the idea being that the movement might set off labour (but will only really work if you're pretty much ready to go anyway). I'm sure someone will be along with a better description though. I think arti might have been on here yesterday - IIRC she was worried that one of her friends had chosen the same name as her. Or it could have been someone else...

I must admit I'm a bit shocked about the attitudes some people apparently have about being (or even appearing) unmarried with kids as well chutney - as someone who's very happily unmarried I can honestly say I've never had any comments or noticed anyone glancing down at my hand, pregnant/with kids or not ... or maybe they do but it goes over my head?

Oh and re: boy's names - a few that we have considered in the past:

Edwin
Henry
Gregor
James
Patrick (I love this, but DH vetoed me, bah humbug)

If you like old-fashioned names, Bede is supposed to be making a small comeback - love it but ponce factor v v high!

So have you settled on one Effie?

if dd had been a boy we'd have gone for Joel.

oh on the unmarried issue,i had a friend take her week old DS to hosp with jaundice and the admitting nurse on the ward couldn't understand why her surname was different to DS's her DP was at work so not present but the nurse kept saying his name is X and yours is X and looking all confused until finally my friend said his father and i aren't married. But the thing is even if they were it doesn't mean they would have the same name, she is a publishing academic so if they did get married she would prob keep her surname. And it was an east end hospital were lots of mums would have diff surnames cos of their culture.

Yes, but none of those (though one might feature as a middle name)

DS1 is William which I still like a lot, but it is pretty common.

I like Joel too, all the Joels I know are lovely. I also think David is nice name, but again not uncommon.

when I'm at work (nurse) I work on the basis that you make NO assumptions!!! It seems more rare to come across a married couple with 2.4 children than anything else! The funny ones are where you think dad is really grandad...best to ask who's who! One of our docs says never assume because it makes an ASS of U and Me! Cheesy but true!

My friend had this exeperience doing her IVF in a central london hospital. She is married as it happens but she kept her own name ....like thousands of women. But the system / people couldn't cope with it - so in the end she changed to her husbands name (just to make sure she got the right sperm ).

On the other side of the NHS efficiency coin - she mailed me yesterday to say that the Health Visitor had been on to her to make an appointment for baby's BCG vaccination. She is 8 weeks preganant!!??!!

That's just bizarre Veggie. Sounds like she was either being awkward or a bit thick! DS has got a double-barrelled name (which is quite amusing as my surname is common as muck) - happy for him to just use one when he's old enough to decide. A lot of my unmarried friends with kids have given their children their DP's surname thinking it wasn't really that important then regretting not sharing a name with them, especially when they start school.

Just out of interest, I've often thought there are proportionately a lot more married people on this thread than in my RL circle - is this anyone else's experience or is it pretty much a representative sample for you?

And I'm with you on the assumptions bit trace - I must admit that I bristle a little when people say "your husband" or call me "Mrs so-and-so" when there's no basis and no need to do so.

Morning everyone, not at work today, bliss.
Just packed my hospital bag, now gotta tidy the house, as MIL is coming later (not that she would care if the place is a tip mind you!!)

I've never ever noticed anyone checking out whether I wear a ring or not either (I wear a wedding ring but not engagement ring, as I broke my engagement ring, and got a full refund for it after the wedding, and we kept the money instead of getting a new one!!) I have had friends comment on where my engagement ring is though and tell me I should get a new one!

trace that sounds embarrassing thinking that dad's are grandads!!! Best to assume the other way round if you have to I guess!! (though I suppose I would be a bit insulted if someone thought my dad was my husband)

I like all your names Effie, in fact we are going for one similar to one of those on your list! I prefer old fashioned-ish names for boys. But DH does not like religious names as he is not religious, and this makes it difficult!! He did agree to Daniel as an option in the end, which I really like, really common though (top 5 I think). I also really like Miles but I always think of it as quite posh which puts me off a bit.

I wouldn't say Miles was posh. Milo on the other hand...

lol Turnip at "Just to make sure she got the right sperm"!!!!

My RL circle are all my Irish catholic college friends - so although we all cohabited when we first moved to London we all subsequently married the dps. Sad, conformist bunch that we are. Only not married ones are the gay guys in our group - and we keep pushing for civil partnerships and a day out from them

In my wider circle though (work, NCT, DCs parents etc) I would know a lot more people with kids but not married than is probably rep'd on here. But maybe that's a London thing .

Well my DS has DP's surname and tbh I have never had any comments re being married or not. We will get married eventually when he stops getting me upduffed and when I am thin again. If you are not married you do need to think about the legalities if you give your child your surname and not your DP's if you do get married your DP would have to adopt your/his child.

It's not so much comments about being married that my friends get, more that teachers etc. naturally call them Mrs Whatever (ie same name as child) and I think they get a bit fed up of correcting them (or maybe they are secretly wishing they were married and are fed up with that - I know a few like that!).

I thought that as long as the father is named on the birth certificate he had automatic parental responsibility (something that has changed in recent years) - I don't understand the bit about adopting if you then do get married.

Ooh just got the pic from LadyT and she is absolutely gorgeous! They're off home tomorrow.

Oh maybe I am wrong PD.

I think most of my friends in RL who have kids aren't married. We got married because we wanted to not so we were married before having kids.

DS was concieved out of wedlock. I found out the day before we got married so spent all day trying to hide drinks people were buying me. A few people have worked out I was PG when we got married and a few have even said we only got married because we were expecting. I would like to know how we arranged an entire wedding in under 24 hours despite sending invitations in January and getting a BFP in July!!

A good friend of mine spilt with her DP earlier this year and is living with her parents and her 2DC. Someone said to me "If she had married him she would get half the house and wouldn't be waiting on the council list" I thought it was a horrible thing to say and I did actually tell her that.

On baby names DS was very easy. We knew what his name would be even before we found out he was a boy. If he had been a girl we were going to call her Morgan. But I have really gone of it this time round and it wasn't even on our list.

Effie I love Patrick, but my DH did the same as yours.