wagoners have exchanged there wagon for a sleigh all prepared for christmas, presents are on board and sleigh is decorated with the brightest lights and decs mummys 2 be are ever closer to having there babes.

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Hi GRUFF! Weekend sounds good - will be lovely to see your sister; bet she has some great stories!
LG&T, that's interesting. Part of my problem with my 3 labours has stemmed (I think) from fact that I have never had that gradual build up. Contractions with all 3 start 4 mins apart, very intense, and my response is to go into panic mode and beg for an epidural . Really want to avoid one if possible this time, so maybe it's more of a mental coping thing for me as body doesn't seem to fit the whole build up thing!
Urghh, have just been sick again - that horrible no fluid sick when solids try and get out, and then slide back down throat. Sorry, I just felt I needed to share that

Erm ta for that Diege

Gruff good to hear you are half way! Honestly it feels like 5 minutes ago i was 20wks with this baby. The time will fly! Have fun with your sister, Harrods for some Krispy Kremes is an essential stop i think

It could all be different this time Diege, the last baby was a nightmare. He took about 5 hours! He was transverse head in the pelvis and a ventouse! I was stunned after the super quick 40 minutes with ds#4!

Any time LG&T . Will be intersting to see how you get on this time - are you planning on using the 'remedy' ??
GRUFF, you don't need to go as far as Harrods for crispey cremes - they do them in Victoria train station and outside Euston now!

God no! I didnt take it with the last baby either i was too afraid of the time scale.

I have not even started the rasberry leaf tea yet. I will after 34 weeks though.

This one is going to come out slowly in a few hours in the pool at home. >

morning... i've been busy busy busy with housework this morning- damn nesting making me tidy so much!!

Nat- hope scan shows more waters...

Gruff- horray for 20wks... i'm 20wks tomorrow, and got my scan too- about 26.5hrs till i see beany!!!!

I'm going away for the weekend tomorrow after the scan, so doubt i'll be online tomorrow... have the scan in the afternoon, DH is off so hoping to pop to tesco in the morning, see if we can get the kids a DVD each for their stockings.

Food show is on saturday, dirty night in a hotel tomorrow night!! Very exiting full weekend!! Then on sunday we need to collect the kids, go and get soem bits and bobs of food... and need to do some blitzing, DH getting things in the boot to take to tip on mon am, as next weekend DH's mum is coming up from london for the weekend... its our early xmas...

Putting the tree up on weds i think, decorating it with the DC's while DH is either home from work, or before he goes to work...

can't believe advent calandars can start on monday!!!!

Do you know i have all 7 advent calendars already (one for the rabbit too )

Have a lovely weekend Glask!!! It sounds heavenly, a night on your own! Am very

Me and DH normally get one when they go on sale in a weeks time, and get a luxury one between us (and DH normally eats it all!!).... DC's are upstairs in a bag, hiding from the DC's atm... last year i made the mistake of putting them in the living room a couple of days early, DS got them down and ate half of his before it was even december!!! naughty little monkey!!!

Hi Gin, how's the bedrest? going as well as mine I would imagine
Sorry to hear you've got the poolies at your house. Still, hopefully outta the way before Christmas.

We've got the advent calendars sitting in the dining room.....waiting....I have to buy them well in advance because I get the ones from Thorntons with their names iced on and they are often sold out by November-ish.

Will do tree and dec's on first weekend in December I think.

Diege....lovely! Thanks for sharing and so graphically as well

My last birth was fast and furious and I went into shock. I would still prefer to have a fast birth though, especially using the pool. I took Bach Flower Rescue Remedy when it started to help keep me calm.
I'd had a protracted birth with dc1, then a really gentle hwb with dc2, so didn't expect a birth like dc3's at all.

I might try the caullo- wotsit. LG&T my m/w has offered to sweep me at 37 weeks, what do you think?

When do you take RLT again? I can't remember.

mmm yummy crisy cremes - but will be driving straight to sisters house in Kensington so probably wont get any

Glask - my scan is on Tues! Im so excited to find out the gneder I can hardly contain myself!

Me and DH have advent calendars too - already and waiting! But the question is when do you all put your christmas trees etc up??? Did mine around 12th last year I think.(cant remember exactly)

Ours normally go up early as DH's mum comes up early dec... we have a lovely full roast dinner and let the kids open a couple of their presents off them... I say anytime after the 1st in our house... think it'll be the 3rd we put them up this year!!

Gruff- i'm so exited to find out the sex too!! I'll be texting Kay after the scan, so she can share with everyone for me!!

Actually- on the subject of gender.... i have always said i thought this one was a boy since day 1 as everything was the same as it was with DS, sickness, tiredness, sleeplessness (if i can make that a word) cravings etc... now the last couple of days i've somehow got an image in my head of a girl... not that thats a bad thing, but i was so sure it was a boy i have bought some blue bits already but now i'm thinking i could be wrong!! Oh well, only got till tomorrow to wonder!!

Hello.

MW says it could be in the next few days as lots of women have bad back pains especially at night and loose bowel movements(sorry if TMI) in the few days leading up to labour. But she also said it could still be a couple of weeks. But he still is only 1/5th engaged so I'm not holding out much hope.

I am so tired but DS shows no sign of wanting to nap.

Gruff, we put ours up on the 13th as its my brothers birthday on the 14th and he likes having them up for his birthday. I just have carried on doing it here.

LG&T, That stuff sounds good but it'll be too much of a risk to get to the hospital.

Glask, I'm not talking to you I want a weekend away!!!

Some old woman in the OAP flats opposite keeps looking in my front room window. It's bugging me now.

sounds promising Kay

Kayz- it's the first time me and DH will have EVER had a night away alone!!!! we didn't even get a honeymoon as we had DS then... and the first time we'll have been away without the DC's... better do it now before DC3 arrives as i know it'll be a VERY long time before we can do it again!!

Bed rest > erm have given up! I will be 34 weeks on Monday so hoping to have got past the blip stage and get on with Xmas.

A sweep at 37 weeks!!! It wont do anything unless you are ready for it. It might hurt alot if she fiddles too much though, my cervix was posterior with B right to the end and i had 2 sweeps after my due date. The second one was not too bad as the cervix was a bit softer, the first one i could have done with some G&A!!!

I see the cosultant next Wednesday and get a growth scan. He may want to induce me early if i am HUGE for dates still. Noooooo, i am not ready

We've had a few nights without DS. I still don't like them very much. I wake up loads and just find it wierd.

Oh yeah and the MW says this baby feels bigger than DS. He was 7lb 2oz. I'm a bit scared.

diege glad u ordered xmas pressies on net sound gd

gruff ye for half way point
sorry 4 sore throat & headache

glas not long till scan now
your wknd sounds gr8
we r putting r tree and decs up sat as have our xmas with dhs parents following wknd 2 they r from hull.
my parents r coming here xmas and boxing day
thought it abit risky 2 go to them
advent calenders r exciting notl ong now !!
dd has a playmobile one, dh a lindt one and i have a dairymilk one i always have a dairymilk one fussy with chocolate

sorky thorntons calenders r lovely
i am hoping that this one is quicker from 5 min contractions dd took 16 hrs

lg&t lol with calenders you get a gold star

kay crossing fingers for u that it wont b long

Hello Good and bad news:

Good news, scan was fine, waters are up, still on the low side but I DON'T HAVE TO GO BACK TO HOSPITAL!!!!!! Sorry I am a little bit excited about that! LOL

Bad news, I asked for a cons. appt. about being induced to avoid giving birth alone, the MW booked me one for the 9th of Dec, but she says she thinks I'll be lucky to get them to do it, I might be able to get him to agree to induce me at 41 weeks instead of 42 but she doubts he'll agree to do it on the due date and deffo not before, which leaves me with a huge problem. I am scared, not really of labouring on my own, although I'm not looking forward to that, but what if when the baby is born he doesn't breathe or is all clogged up with mucous and god knows what so can't breathe, and what would I do if the cord was round his neck or caught somewhere, or if it came out before the baby? I am no MW, and I am certainly not intending to be my own MW.

On a lighter note, I forgot to say I got the advent calenders last week (or maybe the week before - can't remember!) and we always used to put our tree/decs up on the first weekend in Decemeber, but now with it being DS2's bday on the 7th we wait till the weekend after, though that might change as he get's older and decides he want's them up on his bday!

Glask, another one here ignoring you! I can't remember the last time DH and I had even a couple of hours alone together, and never had a whole night, it was certainly before I was pregnant with DS2, in fact I think since we had DS1 (nearly 7 years ago) we've been out together maybe 3 or 4 times.

Nat I'm a bit confused.
Why will you be giving birth alone? Have I missed something?

S'okay have seen your other thread.
hmm, LG&T might be the best for advice on this issue. How far away from the hospital are you? Do you think it might be worth considering a hb? community m/w are usually able to get to you very quickly, she was with me within 15 minutes.

I am 15-30 mins from hospital maybe more if it was tea time.

Not sure on the HB front, firstly I don't know if they'd let me after everything that's gone on, secondly when I booked in for the HB with DS2 they said it would likely be an hour before anyone got to me, and thirdly, if I've not managed to ring DH/999, then I won't have managed to ring a MW either!

I am going back to my normal MW on Tuesday (hopefully, if I can get an appt.) so I am going to ask her about a HB, so that if they won't induce me, and/or I manage to phone them at least the HB pack would be here.

Hi Nat, Glad the scan went well. I really hope you manage to persuade consultant to induce you. If not then I would say to ring an ambulance ASAP. But I honestly hope it doesn't come to that. Does your DH know what to do just incase you have a very quick labour and he is there?

I could just send DS round. He is becoming a little MW. Whenever we go he tells me to roll my sleeve up for BP, tells me to lie down, tells me to get my belly out and then shouts "baby" when she listens to his HB. He'll even say "Debbie(MW) Baby" and points at the doppler when I lie down.

Even if they won't induce you until term/41weeks Nat it still sounds like you all need to come up with a plan for dealing with an emergency.
Good luck with talking to the m/w about it. Maybe they can come and talk to you and Dh about "what to do if.."

Well hopefully I should get some answers if I can get in to see the CMW on Tuesday. I need to know what the outcome of this is going to be because it will drive me round the bend the closer we get. Half of me thinks there is no way on this earth a cons could posibly leave me in this situation, but then the other half of me thinks, but what does he care really? I am just his 10.40am slot, he'll have another one at 10.50. It won't effect him in the slightest if I laboured alone, or with the Queen as an audience.

Awww Kay DS sounds really cute

Cry, scream and throw yourself at his feet Nat. He can't ignore you then. The Queen has had 4(or is it 5) children. She might be really helpful. Though would you want Prince Phillip seeing you in all your glory.

I have decided to stop thinking about having the baby, in the hope it makes him come soon.

ah reverse psychology Kay...I like it

How old is ds1 Nat? Can he use the phone? Although awful to consider, my ds1 (4) could open the door and dial 999 if needed. He could tell them where we lived, but that would be his limit.
he could also tell them what he'd had for dinner and which nintendo level he was up to as well.

You could have a basic hb pack ready alongside a hospital bag I suppose. I think the main thing is to keep the baby warm, if they come so fast that you can't ring for help, ie minutes then you could ring 999 after the birth.