Due Dec 08 - Braxton hicks, baby kicks and leaking nips!

[Veggiemummy]

that was Disenchanted's idea for a great title not mine

Hiya

Turnip - how did you get them to agree to a growth scan? Despite my big measurement and history of big babies the OB said there was no need for a growth scan as DD did not get her shoulders stuck. SHe simply wrote in my notes that a doctor should be present on the ward (but not in my room) when i start to push in case baby gets stuck. I was a bit at that as surely a doctor is always present??? I mean its a dedicated materinity hospital. I like to hinks there are many OBs around at all times.

ZJ - I am all for doing my bit for the environment but there are limits...

Katie - sorry to hear you have diabetes but at least you know and they can treat you. How big was your last baby?

Reban - good luck tomorrow.

LadyT - How did you manage Michelin Starred meals, truffles and champers???? I get heart burn after pasta pesto!

Rosmerta - you are a domestic goddess! We will be living off takeaways and ready meals for the weeks after birth. Well actually DH quite likes cooking so we maybe OK but I am never going to be organised enough to cook and freeze more than a few bolognaises for DD.

Well we have put our house back on teh market today. We are not going to offer on teh dream house we saw a few weeks ago (although it still haunts my dreams), it is just oo expensive. However, we have seen another lovely house 8 doors up from us with double the floor space, 5 beds and a garden. If we can get a decent offer on ours we will offer on that. However, our agent has made us put it on teh market for £100k less than six months ago. The market is really bad. I am remaining calm as it is not a great time for us to move now anyway (with the baby and all) so if it does not happen it does not matter (sort of).

That's annoying Arti. My case is a bit different as it's a private hossie and they do a 34 week scan as standard for growth (although I think last time around I didn't bother to have one - probably being tight! - and then DS turned out to be just under 10lb). TBH I am not sure how big this baby would have to be for them to suggest anything different. When you have had previous children they kind of assume that you will be able to push em out if you did it before and didn't suffer from shoulder dystosia. And TBH, I think your average m/w knows the shoulder dystosia manouevre better than the average junior doctor (or even consultant for that matter). Sorry, that's not particularly helpful.

I think in terms of a Dr being present - there is always one on call, but they may be in a different part of the hospital (ie doing an outpatient clinic if daytime, having a kip on a camp bed if nighttime). They are only only physically on the labour ward if attending to someone who needs a doctor. There won't be a doctor on the ward I am giving birth on either, but they will be able to get hold of one pretty quickly if need be.

zj [grin[

An aside to the pants disposable ones are vile I too do what turnip suggested and go to Primark and buy their jumbo pants so I can chuck them, also buy the black ones.

katie so sorry you have got GD hope you get the meds and get on track asap.

Arti glad to hear your bp was ok.

Am begining to nest starting to get a bit antsy about getting the babies room ready and I have the urge to bake cakes which I only ever do when in the last couple of months am going to attempt a lovely sounding chocolate cola cake tom as I have friends coming over for the arvo.

Arti glad the BP was low.Hope urine test is OK

ZJ cannot believe the tip re-recyling pants!! Re maternity pants, I also just buy cheap ones from Primark that can be thrown away afterwards.

I think I would probably go for the later classes when your DP can go, despite the risk of the baby coming early. I see the classes as mainly about making friends so you want to meet people who have similar due dates to you. At my antenatal classes with DD, my friend only made one class as her baby was induced early, but we still see her 5 years later.

that pants thing is hilarious, i am into being environmentally friendly but that is ridiculous
i'm gonna have a little peak at peoples pushchairs from now on to see if anyone has taken the advice.

WG you were saying you have been get kicking low down it might be your baby punching out with it's hands. I have been getting movement low down and up high which is similar to what i got with DS and he was head down from about now-ish.

I have been nesting big time, doing loads of washing and cleaning the house, i decided to wash a rug that we have a kind of light coloured hall runner thing, it had some stains on it and instead of using carpet remover for some reason i decided to squeeze some washing detergent on it. Well i must have put a bit too much on because when i put it through the washing machine it spewed out loads of suds all over the place, was very funny.

Can I just ask if anyone is being particularly crap at getting things together.

I am expecting dc3 and therefore don't actually have to buy anything (already have a Phil & Teds pushchair). I have 2 dd's and my dsis has 2ds's so is giving me all her boy clothes - I know someone who is having a girl so I am getting rid of my girl stuff.

However, I am 30 weeks this week and haven't given much thought to getting things sorted (esp as my dd's were 9 and 12 days late).

Anyone else being a bit like this or I am just being really crap!

I have also been in nesting mode!! I think my husband thought I was crazy when I disappeared one evening and he came to look for me and I was polishing the towel rack in the bathroom!

Arti my DS was 11lb 5oz!
As for nesting, I had the urge a few weeks ago when I went a bit mad with cleaning, but since then have been sitting on my arse. Although decorated, the baby's room has turned into an extension of the attic storage space -oops, better get it sorted soon.

kimberley that is so funny that you were polishing the towel rack.

i just did my first assessment and got 100% hurray.

Well done Veggiemummy! That?s really good news, and good news about Arti?s BP too.
Katie, I am sorry about your GD, is it easily treatable? But after reading about your Superwoman antics I have great faith in you to see it off! I went for a check up today, and there were photographers around as Peter Mandelson is in St Mary?s for kidney stones. Anyway, I?m very anaemic apparently, which is very commonplace at this stage of course, but I am annoyed because I?d been priding myself on my good diet. That?ll teach me. Partly explains the breathlessness though. So now I have got industrial strength iron tablets, and will no doubt get industrial strength constipation as a reward. Oh, and my gammy wrists are also commonplace, being inflamed tendons (turns out it?s more common after delivery and people used to think you got it from wringing out nappies!), and the purple patch on the front of my ankle is inflamed capillaries and though they will improve after delivery they won?t disappear entirely so I will have to pay to have them lasered. Ooh, the glamour. But I feel guilty whinging about my minor complaints when people have proper problems so I will shut up now and attempt my holiday round up. Sorry if I miss anyone or anything out. Oh, and got my CS date: 25 November, at 8am!

Effie ? I am puzzled by your grave dislike of Gaviscon. I actually LOVE Rennies because they are chalky and the idea of eating chalk is very appealing at the moment. I also want to eat...eye pencils. Don?t ask me why, but I fantasize about crunching the wood and the paint and the soft kohl...mmmm...but it really is NUTS. I thought cravings were far behind me.

Verso ? I thought your comment on that Metro piece was very eloquent. My sister had a similar experience to you and basically I just really really hope it?s all better for you this time.

Beans ? the lady carping about your maternity nurse ? it?s patently jealousy. Ignore it. Everyone should go for all the help they can afford or muster from volunteers, I reckon. Did you cry off that trip with friends? I am taking my late DH?s father to Antwerp for the weekend, and I need it like I need a hole in the head.

Hiccy ? very sorry about your granddad...

Veggie ? will you be down in London for this new meet up on 17 Oct? I will be going to it as long as my cricket dinner isn?t the same day ? as an Aussie you will appreciate this sentiment!

PD ? I love that pic of you, your DP and your DS and was amused to hear the history behind it. Good on you for borrowing your notes. Power to the people, I say.

Hatty ? have you got any further with sorting things out with your DH about the arrangements for the birth? I totally understand why you are fretting about it. I actually hate generalising along gender lines but I am starting to do it with increasing frequency. There?s some stuff to do with this pregnancy/childbirth thing that they just don?t GET ? eg DP doesn?t realise that I need his flat not to look like Stig of the Dump?s cave when I essentially move in after the baby arrives.

Mibbes ? are you better now?

Pixsix ? where are you moving to? And I also worry (a bit) about loss of control/dignity, and that?s just for a section. I am figuring other things will loom larger at the time though and I just won?t worry about it. I?ll be first in the queue for the Voltarol suppositories anyway, I strongly imagine.

Reban ? how are you feeling now? And aren?t you at Good Hope where my sister works? She isn?t a maternity nurse but she?s a nursing consultant so if you have any complaints...

Oli ? emotional outbursts ? I?ve been biting them back. I found it more of a problem in earlier pregnancy, but I do find that unworthy things conjure up a lump in my throat or a tear in me eye nowadays (things on adverts, for example). DP would inspire an emotional outburst in a pillar of salt at the best of times though, so I think I have done quite well. But I am sorry to hear you are not getting the same measure of care and attention as last time. It must be so much harder with a young child already to be at this stage of pregnancy, I have said it before but I don?t know how you guys manage. Just taking care of my own (endless!) needs is tiring enough.

ZJ ? good on you re: the firm breasts! I was doing ok but now I think I need better bras. I have taken to wearing a sports bra in bed but it?s so uncomfy. Some nights I just let ?em flop about. I do think your midwife was odd to say that about the position. I guess she didn?t want you fretting but as you say, you could be doing exercises and things. LadyBaby is still transverse at 32 wks.

Arti ? your work routine gave me pause. I can imagine the sort of environment you are talking about...and I understand only too well the pressures and your need to give of your best but you have to rest and indulge yourself whenever humanly possible outside work (says the girl who is going to the office tomorrow afternoon, over three weeks after commencing maternity leave). As for the Michelin starred meals, truffles and champs, I do get indigestion but let?s just say I work through the pain...Good luck with the house sale. Judging by the estate agents? windows in my bit of West London, the market might have slowed but it certainly hasn?t stopped.

Major ? that was a truly horrible sounding labour experience for your sis. Yikes. How is she now?

WG ? that sounds most unnerving. Hope you are feeling tons better and taking it easy.

Turnip ? Nanny sounds like a super idea...good for you. I will also have a growth scan at 34 weeks. I?m dying to know how big Lady Baby is.

Chutney ? have you got your CS date yet?

Summer ? wow, you have been back on your bike? Impressed.

Jam ? re: weight ? I only do kg now, as I can?t get my head around them and it blurs the notion of how much weight I have put on!
Rosmerta, HotMama, Kimberley, Abbey, Daisy, Bisou, KMP and JumpJockey ? and many others, forgivez-moi ? haven?t forgotten you but my back is killing me now, my brain is going all spongy and I need to stop. So I send you extra big love instead. Night night!

Wow LadyT, what an update!

We're moving back to our own house in SE London which is currently let out to tenants. I'm really looking forward to going home now but the logistics are scaring me a bit. Dh says I won't have to do anything and that he will take care of all the packing and cleaning of the rented flat we're moving out of. I'll believe it when I see it!

I hope your back feels better today and that this really is your last day in the office.

It's great to have you back!

Morning all.

arti good luck with the house sale, and I hope you can remain calm throughout the whole process. And good luck to pixsix with your move

jam/veggie/kimberley and other nesters - I'm also getting a bit like that (but haven't polished the towel rail yet!) I'm obsessed with dusting skirting boards at the moment, and spent last night varnishing door frames on the landing. I think I should make the most of it, as I've never felt like this before and unlikely to feel it again

majormoo thanks for the tip on the ante natal classes, todays plan is that I might beg to go to both the Oct and Nov class (it's just one of the 5 that DH will miss)

ladyt I'm at your desire for eye pencils, sounds pretty grim to me

have a good day all x

ZJ the NCT classes we went to were about 5 weeks before DS was due and the other people in the class all ended up having our babies within about 2 weeks of each other in fact DS & 3 other boys from the group share their birthdays. I am still in close contact with them all and we always catchup when i'm in London. I don't know if taht helps pick a date for your class but just found having it the month before got me in a group with similar EDD couples.

LadyT top tip - dried apricots because they have lots of iron in and also because they stop you getting er..bunged up (which the iron tablets have a tendancy to do).

Katie WOW - 11lb 5 oz - that's incredible. That boy was half-reared (as they say in Ireland!). Was that a vaginal delivery (ie via the gates of life or over the fence ?

Hotmama I am being similarly disorganised with my DC3. I know the stuff is in the house somewhere.....just need to lay my hands on it. And repatriate lots of things like my feeding chair and so on that have all been lent to friends!

Hello everyone,

katie Sorry to hear about the diabetes. It is good that it has been identified and hopefully they are wrong and it will disappear after the birth

Abby Congrats on LO being confirmed a boy!

zoe LOL at the knickers tip! It reminds me of a "top" tip my friend showed me in Chat or a similar magazine which said "Save money on loo roll, poo at work"

I am starting to get nesting urges - I don't want to peak too soon though or else I'll loose interest and the place will be dusty and dirty by the time the baby arrives!

oh dear i am def a nesting mother now. we got our ocado delivery this morning and as is often the case a some the of eggs were cracked. Usually i would just chuck the cracked ones and request a refund, but instead i decided to not waste them and made DS and omlete for breakfast and have just popped some muffins in the oven. Killed 2 bird with one stone as it gave DS something to do as the weather is so horrid, he helped me cook.

I still requested the refund.

Morning all! Sounds like the nesting instinct is really kicking in - we've done a clearout of old crap to make space for all the new baby stuff, which is I guess a bit of a start...!

Loving the idea of a pant changing bag. Will see what DH thinks - I'm sure he'd be more than delighted to carry one

zoejeanne - midwife checked me yesterday and said she had no idea which way up the baby was so just put Transverse on the notes . Still, there's plenty of time yet for them to decide which way up they want to be so I wouldn't be crawling around the house just yet! Have you seen this website? Might help if you're still worried
spinningbabies.simplwebsite.com/

As I'm booked in for HB they do a positioning scan at 37 weeks to check it's not breech, so will just have to wait and see until then...

I am still waiting for my 28 week check... got it on Thursday, at 31 weeks! oops.

HELLO!!!! How is everyone? we had a marvellous time in the Lakes and I'm feeling very happy. DH gave me an original print book with a lovely dedication in the front - "best wife in the world" - so sweet - he's really not the most romantic person, so that was big!!!

BUT we had train journey from hell on the way up. Managed to get a seat on the train from London to Crewe, then changed and met DH at 4.45 and got onto another one. there were only 4 carriages when there were meant to be 9. We'd managed to get an earlier train than originally booked seats on, so we didnt' have reserved seats and we hopped on next to first class. The carriages were so full you couldn't even get into them to have a look for seats. Obviously, the first class had lots of spare seats, so I asked the train manager if I could sit in there. To my horror, he said NO! I couldn't believe it. Really had to fight tears, as meant I had to stand next to loo for 1.5 hours. Was completely gutted. Shocking. Especially as DH hadn't got a seat on the train previously and they'd told him just to sit in first class anyway! But this guy wouldn't let me. I oculdn't believe it. Was so upset. I sat on DH's bag for a while, but it's really not ideal with swollen legs and feet. Nearly cried. Spoilt little me. But am going to write to Virgin.

Katie - sorry you've got GD - what a pain, poor you. I hope you're coping ok?

Everyone else - I've missed so much and really can't catch up with personal responses - sorry - not as good as LT!!!

Verso - do you live in Clapham Junction? I do!

PS I had total meltdown last night as we've got 2 weekends with DH's family coming up and I suddenly just wanted to be with mine, massively! Haven't been down to stay with parents in Kent since July and am keen to go and chill. PLUS I had a sudden (very childish) realisation that I'm never going to get to go and chill out with them again without a baby in tow! So had massive tears and sobbing on DH and he was, to give him his due, absolutely sweet to me. Have arranged a few days down there mid-week when maternity leave starts - phew! I think I just need a bit of a chill with Mum! Pathetic, as I'm 33, but just keen to hang with her a bit without a baby!!!

Quick question: (I haven't yet caught up with today's posts, am having manic day at work).

Does anyone else find that if they are sitting upright for long periods of time, that when they stand up their "undercarriage" is very painful and feels bruised? When I sit in my office chair for a few hours I think the weight of the baby pushes down on my pelvic floor and almost causes it to get bruised againt the chair. When I get up to walk I feel as if I have been kicked between the legs by someone wearing hobnail boots.

I did not have this with DD. Am I unique?

Hi all!
Quick post as I have lots to do!
hotmama I have hardly done anything yet either and it's my first one! Yikes! Am hoping to get moving on buying stuff soon. Am also going to start having some mid-week time off in a few weeks with my remaining holiday so hoping to shop then.
katie sorry to hear about the diabetes, that is crap, fingers crossed that it does actually go away after wards.
beans is there any way the conductor didn't notice you were pregnant? Did you tell him? If so, that is shocking! If not, it never ceases to surprise me that people can not notice you are pregnant! Saw an old biking friend on the w/e and admittedly I was wearing lots of layers, but he asked me if I was still going on training rides at lunchtime and if I wanted to go out sometime, he just didn't notice! Also I think you need your mum when you are pregnant, so chilling at home sounds like a good idea.

Arti don't mean to worry you, but that hobnail boot thing sounds a bit like how my friend describes SPD, though as far as I know it is not caused by sitting, but more by having your legs apart. I would ask the midwife?

Am quite irritable at the moment I think. Am finding everyone at work very annoying. Not sure if they are more annoying or it is just my hormones! Hoping that nesting kicks in soon as well, have done some sorting of the house, but am such a messy lazy person, that I have my doubts about me having the nesting instinct (so does DH)

mmm...ok that wasn't that short after all!

SL - I told him I was 7 months pregnant and he still didn't shift! He even told me I should have booked - there were people standing around us who had booked, but there weren't enough carriages and no way to get to the seats even if you had booked!!! Virgin will be getting a huffy letter!

Oh Arti - that sounds horrid. Poor you. I think I'm having a bit of a breeze at the moment, although having been all pleased at not being too hormonal, break down last night was indicative that perhaps it's not all quite as shiney as I initially thought!

beans glad to hear your weekend (apart from the train ride) was so good.

arti I'm afraid my undercarriage doesn't feel like that, but the base of my back/top of by bum hurts after sotting too long - leading to me standing up and then having to grip my bum cheeks - nice!

SL I'm another first timer with not much bought. I've got all Wednesdays off work from now on to use holiday, so tomorrow will work on a list of things and then go shopping another week (so pleased not to have to shop at the weekends!). Will report back on Thursday if I actually was that organised!

in which case he is a poo poo meanie as veggie would say! I would probalby have had a little cry, or worse a strop and a cry and embarrassed DH. Maybe he was scared of p*ing off all the people who had actual reservations by letting you in first class, but he still should've done! I think you should definitely write to complain!

Beans def send that letter i went from Glasgow to London once (1st class seriously if you book ahead not that much more and soooo much better with small DS in tow) anyway the rest of the train was full so they were letting those who needed the seat into first class esp families and older people but in the end the guard just let anyone in. It is stupid to have seats available but have people standing. Oh and it was a virgin train i was on so they do do it.