Due in November 08: Missing - 2 feet, last seen somewhere under bump in late August. If found, please massage and trim toenails before returning.

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Hi ladies, new thread as we seem to have outgrown the old one!

Thanks Heart2mum, my nauseau is a bit bad. But not too bad. Just about manageable.
I have more sympathy for those of you with il problems - now that is long TERM !!

My mum is coming today. We are booked to go to a posh little place for lunch. Can't wait. She will be here soon. And she will pick up ds form school at lunchtime with me - ds is very excited.

My feet are very swollen, but not painful. Last time they were very sore and I felt the pressure, like I wanted someone to pop them to release the pressure. They are not that bad, as yet. But they are swollen permenatly. They do not go down or up. They stay the same. So for those that have wished me better with it - thanks you. But it is not something that is going to go away. Not until I give birth. But once again, at the mo, it is more thna manageable. It just LOOKS VILE.
I do have very tiny, short fat stubby feet at the best of times. Dh jokes about my normal 'club foot' and my 'now 'walrus feet'. I tell you , it is a mystery how the man ever managed to bed as many woman as he has !!! No , it is done in jest, and i laugh too, becasue I know it is unfortunately true.
But , he is being particularly loving at the mo. We are getting on great. And he bought me the most BEAUTIFUL flowers yesterday. He doesn't do that very often. But god, when he does. I love him SOOOOO much.

Coolkat, my ils are fab. Esp my mil. She is a sweetie.
And yes, I iron ALOT. I quite like it. I find it satisfying.

Aw, bless, Obs - that is so sweet! Speaking as someone who spends an unconscionable time bitching about her poor DH, it's very nice to hear the opposite. You put me to shame, Missus, ya really do...

Okay, update on the "hordes of DH's nutty family delivering the baby" scenario:

1. DH has agreed that what I want is more important than having someone around to bring him sandwiches, or worrying his relatives' hurt feelings. Result - I do love him and have moved his stuff back into the house (joke).

2. We have managed to have a conversation about preparing for the baby without the telly or the computer distracting him.

3. The hospital will let any number of birth partners in (SIL had 3) but I reckon they shoot interlopers on sight and clamp their cars for good measure. Yay! We have agreed that DH will call people to let them know it's started and tell them that he will call/text them, NOT the other way round. This is non-negotiable and we will set the dogs on any infringers.

This all followed a visit from DH's parents, which they announced by phoning at 7:30 am yesterday, saying they would be coming over at 6pm. They turned up at 5:30, 2 minutes after I got in and the house in a total state. I do love them to bits - they are really really nice people - just in a thick-skinned way. Me: "And don't call us at 7:30 in the morning!" Them: "Well, you should be up! We were up at 6." Me: "You're not having any coffee now, get out" Them: "Milk, no sugar, ta". Honest to god, they do crack me up. I think this may have contributed to DH's conversion to common sense.

Northern Ladies - yay Meadowhall! Free parking, baby change, lots of places for coffee plus shopping opportunities (useful for Xmas). If we do go in late November I shall have a good think about when the Xmas shopping crowds will be least horrible (so not a Saturday or an evening then!).

Btw, did anyone watch Supernanny last night? Or the programme about teenage parents? I was watching Supernanny and DH came galloping into the room ? he thought the screeching noise was me having a hormonal weep. How bad am I for him think that? Jeez.

PS Sorry for manners - morning all! Hugs to nausea-ridden people and the podgy foot tribe: I too have no ankle bones any more.

Morning all!

Saurus once again your posts make me chuckle - I also watched Supernanny and imagine how upset I was as one of the only boys names I have is Flynn. And did anyone else think the 3 year old "mini" eater was a bit odd??

Glad to hear your DH is playing ball now Saurus - they're not always all bad!

My DH has actually started reading the pregnancy book chapter about labour and childbirth - he was very pleased with himself at the NCT class on Monday when we went through the Stages of Labour and he knew all the answers!

As for PILs - mine are nice but not perfect - fairly normal I would say!

Merry I have added you as a facebook friend so we can play scrabble when you accept me. I have a feeling this is how I am going to get through my maternity leave before the baby arrives!

Hi everyone

My ILs are ok too but somehow still manage to annoy me at times?? But then my own parents well mum in particular can be far worse.

She actually mocked DS the other day when he wanted to play with his drawing board thing. He loves that toy and loves it if you draw what he asks for him so he can try it too. Anyway as soon as he picked it up she screwed up her face and put on a condascending voice and said "draw car".

I was too shocked to say anything really but thought WTF? No idea why that could annoy her so much to provoke such a horrible reaction. DH just says she is not happy person. It just upsets me. Not as if he always round there and when he IS it is always my Dad who plays with him!

RuthO good news about your DH, think you got a goodun there!

MonkeyM yes think ignorance would have been more blissful this time around, esp when MW couldn't have been sure of what she was saying!

I also quite like ironing but my favourite household task is putting washing out to dry !

ChocO LOL at your DH knowing all the answers, good on him tho for reading about it, mine is sticking to the ignorance is bliss on that one too (again). - although he did acquire a keen interest in the section of dealing with new babies when DS came along!!

Hi All, I've just been to see the MW and its now looking more likely that I will have to have a CS again as baby is transverse, Consultant said if it hasn't moved in the next 2 weeks by the time I have my growth scan and consultant appointment then it will be an elective. Apparently they don't try to turn baby if you have had a previous CS.
I'm not too bothered TBH as it will just take the decision out of my hands!
RE PILs my Dad and stepmum are worse then PILs, The one that really winds me up is being invited over for tea and then getting there to find we are not eating til 7.30 or 8 ish because my golden boy step brother is either A) watching the football/tennis/criket etc or B) has gone for a swim WTF? he is 20 years old DS is 2 8pm is bed time not tea time. The annoying thing is that I would not have got away with tha at home with my Dad and neither would DB I would have been told it was tough and I would miss out or have to eat alone!

Oh sorry how rude of me - Hope everyone is well and having a good day.

Ladybuzz - at least, as you say, the decision will be taken out of your hands at that point. Hope you are OK with whatever happens. LOL at your stepbrother dictating tea time! I think a tired 2 yr old takes precendence over a grown man, but these things are just sent to try us!

Thanks for all your comments on the whole sizing issue. I have to have a growth scan on tuesday when I see my consultant; it's not booked in so I will have to just sit and wait - could be there for some time.... I'm sure everything will be fine but thanks for all the words of encouragement.

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Hi heartmum and vbab - I seem to have missed a page before when I did my massive post. Hugs and re ILs! Problem with rellies is that situations can blow up out of no-where and just take off, can't they? HM, does your MIL have no understanding of what things are like at the mo'? Even if it was her bloody birthday, scuse language, but she should have made it clear what the plans were. It's just rude to keep you hanging on. Reading your post, I also suspect that FIL garbled the phone message and MIL then interpreted it as grumpily as poss. Families - gah.

Sparkle, nuts to your mum as well. Just ignore her and tell DS it's because granny's really a wicked witch that she's so grumpy.

I have an MIL, a step-MIL, a non-biological mum - I know, it makes her sound like washing powder but it makes things complicated because my dad remarried last year so I now technically have 2 stepmums - 2 grandmas and a Grandma-in-law, 1 sister and 2 aunts, all gearing up for the new arrival. Most of them live more than an hour's drive away, though . The men in the family just keep their heads down, tbh.

Obs - poor, poor you with the sick. Big hugs and manic magic wand waving going on here. It must be so horrible .

Hi all hope eveyone is keeping their chins up.

Rutho I'm glad that was written down becasue if you'd just told us it verbally I wouldn't have inderstood it! It sounds very complicated. I hope you all get on ok.

HM2J et all My parents are just like this, except my children have to fit in around their dogs yes- you heard that right, my parents make us wait all day for them and I end up not getting my children fed and in bed until well past nine o'clock to suit my parent's dogs!!!
We couldn't visit over christmas when my sister was over from oz because my parents had a new puppy they couldn't control (very lllarge,knocks children over and is very nippy) but won't put her in the garden or anything so we can visit.

vbab I can't help having the odd sneaky wish that my baby was breech or soemthing then I wouldn'thave to make any decsions, as you say. If something goeswrong for baby with my vba2c I'll be very aware it was my decision.

Oh and much sympathy, obs I'm still losing my breakfast here, too, but fortuantely nausea doesn't last past noonish.

Oh Autumnlady I forgot to say the babys position must have something to do with the measurement as I only measured 29 at 34 weeks too so it seems I have shrunk 1cm in 3 weeks so now I am the same as you but baby was head down at 31 weeks!

Sorry to hear some of you are feeling sick It's horrid and I bet you can't wait for it all to be over.
Sorry also for those with nightmare ILs. Fortunately my MIL lives a good hour away and doesn't drive so we tend to go and visit her otherwise DH would have to fetch her and take her home. Not sure what we'll do when the baby arrives though, although she's really not pushy. Apparently she didn't see BIL's daughter for a couple of weeks and they live just around the corner! It's just my family I need to worry about - my gran and auntie want to come over from France as soon as baby arrives so I hope my Mum manages to stall them for a couple of days at least!
Ladybuzz Glad you're not too worried about possibility of a CS. As you say, the decision will be out of your hands in any case.
Autumnlady Fingers crossed for your scan on Tuesday. I'm sure everything will be fine, but it is worrying when a MW raises a potential issue like that isn't it?
My scan today went OK, baby is growing well (long legs!), head was deep down in my pelvis so couldn't be measured and she is in the correct position for birth, so no longer back-to-back, hurrah! No scrubbing floors for me However there is still some significant renal pelvis dilation on the right-hand side so I have to be re-scanned on Monday by a consultant, who will refer baby to a paediatrician post-birth if required. The sonographer said the measurement could very well change between now and Monday - at my 4D scan it was much lower - and she did struggle to get a measurement because of baby's position. When I saw my MW on Sunday about a home birth she did say that renal dilation wasn't a show stopper in terms of home birth as we could always take the baby along to the hospital straight afterwards for scanning if required so fingers crossed!
Chocolategal I'm sorry I can't remember exactly what your consultant told you about your baby's kidney dilation when you saw him recently but I seem to remember he wasn't too worried and you were reassured after seeing him. Hope it's the same for me...
Hope everybody else is OK today.

Autumnlady, I agree with the others that the way baby is lying can make a huge difference to measurements, plus, it's like them telling me I am measuring HUGE and baby was scanned as nicely average. I really don't think there is much in fundal heights unless there is suddenly a large discrepancy.

Pinky, I am at your parents!! Maybe that is the next step my inlaws can take, making us work around their cats. I wouldn't mind, but they were away all last week and dh had to drive down to there, with his bad leg to feed thier bloody cats. I offered to go, but they wouldn't allow me to have the key code for their alarm. I think they are just weird! At least I now know who I will be ringing last when I have the baby, lol!

Gosh, where are my manners?? Ladybuzz, I am glad that you are ok with your birth choices, but like you say, what can you do when baby has made the choice? LOL!

Cricri, yay for baby being in the right position for birth. Did they say which side the back should be on? I actually can't remember. I hope that the scan with the consultant on Monday goes well and that you can go ahead with a homebirth.

Heartmum Baby's spine is on my right-hand side as I look down at my bump. I think that's the best position from what we were told at NCT classes but if the spine is on the left-hand side then that's OK too. MW wasn't worried about back-to-back in any case, just said labour would be longer and I might suffer from back-ache. In any case baby can turn during labour - I'm just hoping she doesn't do any weird somersaults now that she's in the right position!

HM2J Yes that's it, isn't it, people reap what they sow in these relationships.. Not sure what your PIL thought you would do with the alarm code- very odd

cricri I hope you get some reassurance from your consultant.

The MW doesn't measure my bump, I have to say. The consultant did, but I've only seen him twice, but I didn't say no to the scan,becasue it will be an extra chance to see the baby beofre she's born.

cricri My baby is on the right, with it's head down, too. Curious,because the MW said it would be better on the left, but fine. If baby was back to back, you would just have a backache 'prelabour', or long first stage, whilst the baby tunrs around- it's fine, but it can be very tiring.

yay for the change in position cricri, but sorry you have another worrying wait over the weekend to find out about the renal dilation. fingers crossed all is well.

I'm pretty sure the optimum birth position in LOA or left occiput anterior...which means that baby is on the left hand side with his back facing outwards....what an occiput is though, I have no idea!

Obs, I empathise completely on the feet. Mine were really bad with DD, to the point I couldn't get shoes on at all and had to buy some soft slip ons in a bigger size.....very, erm, matronly they were!

I am also throwing up in the morning; as soon as I start to brush my teeth. It's horrible.

Saw MW today; all OK, head down as I thought, measuring a wee bit big (35 instead of 34) but she said he feels like the right size so nothing to worry about as yet. My next appointment is in two weeks at the hospital for dicussing my birth plan, so she said if there is an issue they will send me for a growth scan there and then.

My favourite housework is washing, and then rewashing cos I forgot about it, and then rewashing cos I forgot about it, and then rewashing cos I forgot about it!

I am a new woman.....well not really, but picked up my new glasses today, did a ladies who lunch with DD and then the two of us had our hair done. Bets are on for how long it will take DH to notice . I'm going for.....um....never and I will have to tell him!

I thought it LOA as well, but as long as it's not bum instead of head I'm not too worried!

Very jealous of your hairdo and lunch thingy. I am fantasising of all the little trips that will be easy with one after next week. Don't think I'll get her hair done though- I have to wrestle her to get a brush near it!

I totally sympathise with you on the washing thing...

Bloody hell, Heartmum, I think you should nick their spoons next time you go over there. That'll teach them about trust issues .

Good luck cricri - hope all is okay! MW at antenatal this week said to spend a lot of time on all fours before and during the birth to make the baby get into or stay in the right position and to open up the pelvis. Also handy if anyone wants to use you as a coffee table.

I heard from a mw that the whole measurements thing is a bit of an art rather than a science...

Hairdo and lunch?! I wanna go on maternity leave [waahhhhh!] Getting haircut next week and my god it needs it.

Daisy and Pinkyminkee You're right, LOA is the best position (just printed off my NCT hand-outs - might be an idea to start actually reading them ) So baby's spine is on your left as you look down at your bump or on the right if you're looking at yourself in the mirror.
Rutho I won't tell DH I should still be scrubbing floors then... He's been winding me up about that for the past couple of weeks! But seriously, you're right, forward leaning postures are best both before and during labour.