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LadyBuzz · 03/09/2008 11:52

New thread ladies

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sparkletoes · 10/09/2008 11:28

LOL at your post Pinkali would even be ROTFL but couldn't possibly with the bump at the minute!

Yes I could always arm myself with my Le Crueset dish when the date with the bitch from hell arrives... In a sick way I kinda hope I DO have to see her again as I could probably get away with just about anything and blame it on the hormones...

At very least I could do a Peter Kay style resting my chin on my middle finger as it points upwards in her direction... any other ideas??? So immature but would make me feel a whole lot better what with the stress she put me under and the stress HR have given me over the whole voucher issue it is little wonder I got a migraine!

ruthosaurus · 10/09/2008 13:15

Sparkletoes, agree that the OH woman is just throwing her sad weight around and if they question your need for sick leave could it not amount to gender-based harassment/bullying? Please don't go back early - it's just playing into their evil hands. Your doc says you need a week, you take that week, hon. I'm not an expert at all but I know that employers have to be really, really nice to you when you're pregnant in case you have grounds to do them under the sex discrimination act .

Also, on the bf front - if Ms Permatan thinks it's okay to tell you to express milk in the loos at work, could you suggest that she join you in there for a working lunch? Surely she wouldn't mind eating a sandwich in the ladies if it's hygienic enough to express milk for a little baby. Mind you, you may have nicer work loos than me - I don't even want to go for a wee in ours , but then we have a unisex loo that we have to share with a pipesmoker [cue nausea]...

Or you could just drop the Le Creuset on her toes - oops, butterfingers! NB - only works with lino floor, no good for tiles as either tiles or dish may smash (I think - haven't tried it yet).

Can I complain about DH being a tool? I am feeling the need to unload or I will drop a Le Creuset on him from a tall building if I don't.

I am not sleeping well as my pelvis feels a bit like it's coming undone at the front and this is worrying as well as uncomfortable. He was in a mood with me this morning for "thrashing about" (As if, I sleep like an ANGEL . Okay, I may not be the best sleeping companion but then I am making a person in my abdomen).

He then got in the shower while I was brushing my poor haemmoraging gums and told me off for using the cold water "excessively" to rinse my mouth out - what was I supposed to do, wait around with my mouth full of toothpaste until he'd had his shower? Git.

And now I'm too fat and unwieldy to have an affair, and no-one would want me anyway because I have toenails like the Gruffalo and grunt when I get out of a chair .

On a brighter note, I did love reading all the proposal stories - nice to see that romance isn't dead!

ruthosaurus · 10/09/2008 13:16

Scuse monster post - was v cross...

LadyBuzz · 10/09/2008 13:23

HM2J that is a lovely story!
Sparkle hope you keep well, stay off just tell her the truth that yes you felt better but also had to take it esy as advised by the doctor!
Coolkat just leave go on the sick, you have to look after yourslef first!
Ruthosaurus turn the hot tap on next time then he'll get a shock!
Proposals, DH got down on one knee a home in January last year as I walked through the front door stinking of fags and beer (I worked in a bar at the time) he'd picked a beautiful ring and was shaking bless him - although I'm not sure why he knew what I would say as by that point I had already had my dress for 3 months and the reception was bookd . I must point out here that I am NOT a stalker he knew about both! We got married last year on December 1st and funnily enough it poured don all day!

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sparkletoes · 10/09/2008 13:52

Oh ladies you have sooo cheered me up today, thank u thank u!!

LOL Ruthosaurus, sounds like your DH doesn't cope well with disturbed sleep poor thing... boy has he got it coming! Doesn't he know that all the symptoms WE get to disturb sleep are natures way of preparing us for the big eventuality that is... the brand new baby! Tell him it is good practice but his marks so far have been pitifully low, he needs to do better! Honestly if it were happening to him it would be a different story I bet... Next time spit it out IN his shower.

Also I can also categorically advise that our work loos are NOT somewhere you would even want to bare your arse let alone your breast! They are gross!!!!

Well even my Dad says I should stay off so in hindsight think I will even if migraine does lift. Will just have to evade their interrogation questions as best as I can 'Yes the migraine lasted 8 days, honest!!'

sparkletoes · 10/09/2008 13:58

Ruthosaurus have you mentioned your pelvic pain to MW? Sounds very like the ole relaxin hormone is kicking in, she could get you a belt thing to help. I got one last time I was PG and it honestly felt amazing, like it was taking the weight for me. You can also buy them for about £10 if you don't feel you can wait, I got mine from Bloomin Marvellous. Think there are even new products about thesedays for it...

ruthosaurus · 10/09/2008 14:14

Thanks ladies, I can now assure you that I am not suffering from the slightest from stress incontinence but I did spit my tea across the room! Hooray for pelvic floor exercises.

Not sure whether it's relaxin or what, but I teach short, intensive courses (13 hours over 3 days - not very relaxin') and have been standing up and walking around loads, so may be that as well. I will go home today via Mothercare and investigage belt things as I am worried my whole front will fall off otherwise. Can you wear them to sleep? It hurts when I turn over in bed.

Sparkle, is there actually anywhere you would want to express milk at your work? I can't think of anywhere at mine that I would want to get my boobs out. Not even at Christmas.

Pinkali37 · 10/09/2008 14:16

I'm going to the obstetric physiotherapist tomorrow at 3.30pm for my back. It has started to feel kind of erm, weak. When i go to the loo in the middle of the night as soon as i stand, i feel as though my actual back can not take the strain and as if all my bones are weak, does that make sense? God knows what she will do.

sparkletoes · 10/09/2008 14:34

Ruthosaurus I only wore mine when walking/standing as I found it a bit uncomfy to sit in. Saw a new product on BM site you could look at tho, they also sell the belt I have...

here

LOL at the boobs out comment, that is a point actually think only my car would be preferable! - would need to take DH's car tho as it has pimped up sport style blackout windows!!

Pinkali my back was also really sore last week and at weekend but it comes and goes. Where about is your pain/discomfort middle or lower back? Obv the physio is your best bet as they can work wonders... hopefully give you some strengthening exercises or something. These babies don't half cripple us!

ruthosaurus · 10/09/2008 14:39

Pinkali, does it feel like your legs won't take the weight when you stand up after lying down for a while (no offense, that's what mine feel like when I get up in the night!)?

ceebee74 · 10/09/2008 14:44

Lol at the thought of expressing milk at work - they have to provide you with a suitable room (and, no, the toilet is not suitable) so they would have to find you an office or something if you did want to do it. We actually have a mini-fridge for loan here for staff who want to express and store their breast milk - it has only been used by one lady in the 4 years we have had it!!

I am wondering about those belts now as my bump is so huge with another 11 weeks to go - feel I may need some support sooner rather than later!

Ruth - your DH sounds just like mine - grumpy!! Plus, he had a go at me the other night cos I was sat up in bed watching the tennis and he wanted me to switch the telly off telling me he 'needed his sleep' - he soon got a mouthful from me about how he had better get used to it as sleep will be a precious commodity very shortly!!!

Can I just have a quick moan about DS?? He drove me mad this morning as he refused to do anything (get dressed, put his shoes on, sit in the car seat etc) which resulted in a lot of shouting (from me), crying (from him) and wrestling (from me again)! He is usually quite an obedient little boy but he definitely knew what buttons to press this morning....how do you deal with this when you are rushing to get out of the house to get to work on time??? At this rate, I am going to have to get up half an hour earlier just to be on time

Pinkali37 · 10/09/2008 14:44

Don't know if you remember but about 3/4 weeks ago I had the most awful weekend of crippling back pain. I ended up walking as though needed a hip replacement. The paineventually got better but it is still here if I have been sitting for a long period or sleeping or I walk for a long time. It initially didn't feel sciatic like but then did so it is all so confusing. The pain is in my lower back specifically one either side above my legs. I was having difficulty putting weight through my legs but now it feels as though my lower back can not stand the strain. When i get up in the night I walk around the bed like a monster, trying desprately tolift my legs up and support my back.

Pinkali37 · 10/09/2008 14:50

OOh watched that programme last night about breast milk. Some of it I found quite disturbing! Esecially the cuban women saying it was a sexual feeling when feeding someone elses child. YIKES... There are some strange people around. Personally and this is my opinion only is if I came home and someone who looked after my child told me they had been a little unsettled but it was ok cos they stuck them to their own breast, I would freak!!!!!

ruthosaurus · 10/09/2008 15:03

Pinkali, that back thing sounds unpleasantly familiar. Soz forgot about your back pain, have pregnancy memory . Missed the programme but would have to agree that anyone who goes on the television explaining how feeding someone else's kid is sexual is a bit special.

Speaking for myself, you'd definitely have to agree boundaries on sharing breastfeeding duties - it might be a bit of a surprise if you didn't know they were going to do that. Plus, wouldn't it disrupt your own milk production (I know nothing about this I haven't read in books and leaflets, being a first timer, so go easy on my ignorance!)?

sparkletoes · 10/09/2008 15:06

Yes Ceebs that was the funny thing about it I have no intention of expressing when I RTW, the fanjo brought it up but I just knew what she was saying was bollocks so let her have her rant. Won't be entertaining her if there is a next time tho.

I have heard good reports from girls at work about the support band I posted...

Oh honestly Ceebs our parallel lives meet again. My DS is exact same esp if in hurry or in public. Am sure they are just seeing how far they can push it but it is so frustrating. Have no real pearls I'm afraid, know that keeping calm usually works best but also know how difficult that is in the circumstances... Car seat is the worst as I cannot fight him on that one so usually just leave him to have his tantrum (for as long as possible) then try calmly to put him in again. Def not an easy one tho and god knows I don't always deal with it perfectly myself. Have u got any special toy you can keep in the car for these moments to distract him?

Ouch Pinkali, back pain really is the pits, have every faith that your physio will be able to help tho. Good luck and let us know how it goes... Is DH any good at massage??

sparkletoes · 10/09/2008 15:27

Oh damn I missed that programme too. Thoroughly agree with u Pinkali and Rutho, I would not be best pleased about that either.

In fact it also felt weird to me when my DH asked my MIL if she wanted to give DS a bottle (with my expressed milk in it). I was just like NO!! That is my own special thing I can give him that no else can and no one else is allowed! Can't really explain it just the way I felt about it at time. Was fine with DH giving him it but really didn't want anyone else to .

Obv if someone say couldn't BF for whatever reason and found someone else to do it then that is different matter. I certainly don't think breast milk itself is weird and I know 'wet nurses' are/were common in Italian culture if mother can't do it. Just stay away from my baby thank you!!

Pinkali37 · 10/09/2008 15:33

Oh yes.. DITTO.. stay away from my baby!!! I find it all rather weird. I thought the woman who expressed to pass it onto the local hospital for premature babies was doing a wonderful job because somehow that seemed different, especially if the mothers couldn't produce milk. I personally would freak (again) if anyone suggested swapping children, errr NO.. It is a special bonding time for mother and child and although someone last night said that no there is no confusion in the child knowing who it's mother is, SORRY but there must a little bit of confusion because i would hate the fact that for whatever reason I had said no to a feed for whatever reason and the other person came to the house MY child would want their attention and to suck on their nipple. It's all wrong!!!! YIKES sorry to anyone who totally disagrees with me, perhaps I should go back under my shell .

sparkletoes · 10/09/2008 15:43

Nope completely understand your sentiments there Pinkali. Yes situ with premature babies is completely different and wholly commendable but in other cases there is a line which cannot be crossed! Again I didn't see programme so prob shouldn't comment at all but to me BF is a personal thing I would hate anyone else to be involved in that way. A bit too 'Hand that rocks the cradle' to me!

Oblomov · 10/09/2008 15:53

Hello everyone. I couldn't bring myself to watch the Kate Garraway programme. I consider being a 'wet nurse' as a selfless act. But this programme has a seedy aspect to it. Contorting what is a natural idea.

Sympathy to Coolkat and Sparkle with their HR issues.

Loving proposal stories, esp Heart2mum.

Am I supposed to be taking iron. Oh sugar. Didn't know I was supposed to be.

Loving Ruthosaurus and her unsympathetic dh. Mine is the same. She looks like the Gruffalo ? LOVE IT. I think I currently look like Winnie the Witch

ceebee74 · 10/09/2008 15:58

I didn't watch that programme either - think I would have found it a little weird aswell. I read in the paper about a group of women who met up and passed their babies around - was that true? And if so, why?? Why would you not be happy to just sit there bonding with your own baby?

Sparks - glad I am not alone in having troubles - I guess these are the 'terrible twos' that everyone talks about. It is just such a change for DS as he has always been quite obliging. The car seat issue was quite funny as he has always been quite happy to either be carried to the car and put in or walk to the car and then lifted in. This morning, he decided, for the first time ever, he was going to walk to the car and then climb into his seat which he couldn't do as it is too high. So I offered to lift him in but got told 'no' so I shut the car door whilst I went and put the house alarm on and locked up. When I got back to the car, he was sat quite happily on the seat next to his car seat and was not budging!!! So obviously as soon as I tried to lift him (not easy with a huge bump), the tantrums and wrestling match began - twas quite cute but infuriating at the same time. Can't wait until tomorrow morning now..........

vbab78 · 10/09/2008 16:52

hi ladies. Sorry to hear about those of you suffering with aches and pains. BIG HUGS TO YOU.

ceebee - I reckon my DS "terrible 2s" must have kicked in too. After picking him up from AM nursery yesterday he was nightmare, he can have his moments but really out of character. I have only know DS be really naughty, shout orders at me or even push me when he is beyond tired but will not sleep. He normally starts by being slightly naughty then goes from there.

But this morning he has been so bad, screaming, crying, being naughty etc that he had me worrying sbout dealing with him AND a baby and what a BAD parent I must be. A couple of times I had to walk away and even close a door to another room for a few seconds to compose myself. It was like my amazing son which can have his moments but the majority of the time is really good had been swapped with a child from hell that I really couldnt deal with. I kept thinking where is my DS.

chocolategal · 10/09/2008 16:55

hi everyone, my MW told me you only need to take iron supplements if your haemaglobin(hb) is below 10.5, this should have been rechecked at 28week appt,
mine was fine at 11.8 so am happy not to take it as it comes with all kinds of horrible side effects!!!!

yep, i too have mixed feelings on the BF prgramme last night, i personally found the 6 year old who got BF more disturbing!

vbab78 · 10/09/2008 16:57

Also ... DS after over a week of sleeping in a single bed no probs has started getting out when first putting him down. Took 3 attempts last night. Only 5 or so mins though. He seemed to think it was a game.

I'm also gradually having less and less sleep I think due to worry and being uncomfortable. I'm sure DH must be getting less sleep too. I also walk like a monster when getting out of bed in the middle of the night as my left leg seems to not want to work and takes a while to come back to life.

I got worried baby (at 32wks) may be on the warm up for an early due date as I was having horrible feelings "down there". Mainly when baby which is head down would move its head (I could feel it) all I can say is "OUCH".

LadyBuzz · 10/09/2008 17:02

Ceebee that is the problem I have its not that he minds being in his seat its just that he insists on doing it himself and he takes ages! Its actually nice to know you are Sparkle have the same issues
I watched the breastfeeding thing and agreed with certain parts but not others - the Cuban lady was weird, the lady who expressed for the hospital was fab.
I think I agree with peple doing it if the mother is ill or unable to but the groups that just passed them round and shared were a bit odd

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ceebee74 · 10/09/2008 17:02

Vbab - sorry you are having problems aswell - definitely must be their age!

My mum told me a bit ago that she had read an article which said that a 2-year(ish) age gap was by far the most popular age gap between children but also the hardest one - probably partly for this reason. Or, I wonder if they are reacting to the thought of a new baby arriving but aren't of an age where they can express themselves or deal with it properly iyswim (or maybe i am analysing it FAR too much ) - maybe they are just being toddlers