Due Dec 08: The Third Thread!!!!

[kayzisexpecting]

We completely filled the last thread so I have started a new one!!

I'll have to go get the list.

not many headaches here, but I have got rib pain - which I had last time but not until about 20 weeks, from which point it got steadily worse as my bump grew.

Slightly concerned that it's come up so early this time - will I be able to breath by 40 weeks?! It makes sense though, as my bump is the same size now as it was at 20 weeks last time...

We had a long car trip yesterday and I was in real pain by the end of it - I'd forgotten all the joys of being pregnant... ho hum...

Have you seen these? I'm going to buy one for when I go to Devon. Its a long way from North Yorkshire

I'm about the size I was at 20 weeks with DS too. Who knows how big I'll be at 40 weeks.

PS sorry to hear about your booking apt chutneymary - would it be rude to ask what went wrong? Please don't say if you'd rather not.

I am not sure if I am looking forward to going through my notes or not - I have quite a lot of unanswered questions about my labour with DS so in some ways I'm looking forward to talking through the experience and getting some answers at last, but also I didn't have a great time with my final midwife who was a bossy old cow very "old-school", and I'm a bit worried I might get cross/upset talking about her. I am at the same hospital so I just have to hope my booking midwife doesn't know her - or even worse - isn't her ! Gawd, how awful would that be... I've already told DH if I get the same woman this time he's to ask for a replacement .

Luckily it's a huge hospital so very unlikely... I hope...

12 weeks today

So, my sister's wedding went well; my dress was a bit slacker though I was sporting what appears to be a baby bump of much bigger proportions than 3 months. People kept coming up and stroking the bit under my boobs - didn't know whether or not to tell them that it was my fat bits, and the baby is still residing somewhere near my pelvis. Would like to see who dares to touch me there!!!

Best veiled insult of the evening went to the lady who told me that she'd guessed I was pg from my sister's hen night. I asked whether it was because I wasn't drinking; she said no - I was obviously carrying a lot more weight up front. I was about 6 weeks gone! And she knows that I'm only 3 months now! And she has children herself so knows full well when you start to show!

All in all, it was a lovely day, I was just very tired and missing the alcohol!

I hope eveyone else has had a nice weekend

oo I missed your post about the seatbelts kays - they look really good, although I don't think they would help my sore ribs, I think it's just stretching pains.

But I agree it's horrible having the lap belt dig into your bump for hour after hour...

Morning everyone.

Hope you are all ok and that any morning sickness that is left is on its way out.

I'm craving cider and I have been since I found out and its getting really annoying now. I've posted about it in pregnancy to see if anyone knows about an alcohol free cider.

Why can't I crave Ribena or something non alcoholic?

Only got time for a quick reply to kayz . I crave cider too-dh got me an alcohol free pear cider from Asda (Koppaberg) or Tesco had a sparkling Cox's apple drink (Bottle Green I think) which I found a reasonable substitute.

hi all, am pleased to report that ds seems to have stopped waking up (touch wood). Hopefully it was just a blip!

cc21, sorry no help with the hayfever but I would go & see another GP.

abbeymeg glad your wedding went ok. at that woman's comment! I always hated people stroking the bump when I was having ds, especially when it was strangers. One day I'd had enough and when a woman I didn't know came up and stroked the bump in the supermarket, I just stroked her stomach in return. I don't think she'd do it again though

We're off to Devon today for a week. Really looking forward to it though I don't think its going to be very relaxing with a 2yr old! Though am a bit as I asked dh last night to pack some of ds's toys and other bits & pieces and he hasn't so that's another on my list of things to do this morning before we leave! Oh well, don't know why I expected anything different

I might check in through the week if I get chance but hope everyone will be ok, & good luck to anyone who's got scans this week.

Have a good week in Devon Rosmerta I still have 6 weeks until my holiday in Devon.

Enjoy Devon - you have lovely weather for it

No ribn pain here, but odd stretchings and tightenings, again much earlier than last time. Symptoms have diminished quite rapidly but am try not to worry (too much). Just over a week till the scan.

Does anyone who is still bfing have any tips on minimising the pain? DS down to one feed at night, but when he latches on it is toe-curlingly painful. Could it be his latch, or just me?

glad the wedding went well abbeymeg: I am expecting lots of comments about my increasing girth when we get round to tellin gpeople.

Morning All

Rosemerta - have a fab time in Devon. I am off to Devon next weekend for the hen party of an old friend from school. DH and DD are staying here. I am quite looking forward to it, except everyone else will be drinking and on Saturday we are doing an aerial assault course .

Abbey - if that woman had said that to me I would have come right back at her to make sure she was embarrassed. Something like "Congratulations on spotting my bump early, its a shame your skills of diplomacy aren't as strong as your skills of observation". But then I wuite like fights!

Effie - I am afraid I have no tips of the BF. I stopped when DD was 14 months which was well before I got pregnant. I imagine it is painful because of hormones as it is unlikely he would loose his ability to latch all of a sudden.

Well I am about to call the hospital to try and get my consultant and tell him about the private nuchal scan results and ask for a cardiac scan at 20 weeks. I am not that hopeful that it will go smoothly. I am tempted to just throw money at the problem and have the cardiac scan at the private place too. It costs £300 but is carried out by a top neonatal cardiac consultant. If only I had private medical insurance.

Good morning

I haven't been round for a while, been feeling a bit down.

But have my 12 week scan tomorrow so thought I would pop in to say hello before that.

Whilst Im having my scan DH's dads GF is going to be being induced so can you all wish her good luck!

Im very excited as its a chance to have a look at some baby bits to buy!

Sorry to hear you are feeling down Disenchanted. Is it nerves about the scan or something else? I hope you have a nice day and that you get some lovely pics of the bubs tomorrow .

Hiya artichokes, just alot of things really, money, stress, morning sickness still here ect ..

the usual

Im sure it will be ok.

£300 is alot of money... was something picked up on the nuchal scan? Surely they have an obligation to check it out further if so?

Even if the nuchal was private.

Have you contacted citizens advice?

Can I ask why you had a private nuchal rather than an NHS one?

Sorry you have all that stress. I too still have some morning sickness and exhaustion and sometimes I just want to cry because I have felt bad for so long.

I had a private nuchal because our NHS Trust did not offer combined nuchal and bloods to under 30s. Also I had pre-eclampsia last time and the Fetal Medicine Centre (where I had the scan) can predict your chances of getting it again. Sadly my nuchal measurement was high (3.1mm) but when combined with my bloods and some other measurements that they only do privately, my risk of Downs is acutal quite low (1 in 5500). However, they are concerned that the nuchal measurment may be a sign that my baby has a heart defect . They recommended I ask the NHS for a specialist cardiac scan at 20 weeks which I will do today. However, my friend who is a paeditrician recommends that if I can afford it I have that at the same private clinic as they are the best in the country at picking up cardiac defects.

Sorry, that was a very long explanation!

Morning all,

Artichokes I can see why you're tempted by the private scan. Hopefully your NHS consultant will be able to help sort things out.

Disenchanted hugs to you. I think having a good scan tomorrow will maybe make things feel better? I feel a lot better since I had my scan and since I've been able to tell people - it becomes a bit of a lonely secret otherwise and I think all feels a bit unreal, when it's all so hidden.

Abbey you poor thing at the wedding! I hate it when people touch my bump too!

Effie I stopped breastfeeding at 6 months, so afraid I can't help either..

Rosmerta very jealous of your week in Devon! I would love to be on holiday at the moment.

Can I ask several personal questions to anyone who could help?

I'm finding that when I'm rushing around a lot I'm getting increased amounts (tmi alert!) of discharge...it's white so I'm not too panicked, I just wondered if this was common and whether it's a sign I should be taking things a bit easier..which isn't always easy is it?

Is anyone finding that their hair is growing quicker? Bizarre question but I've been having a haircut about twice as much as normal and the hair on my legs seems to be growing so fast as well!

Is anyone arguing with their other half more? I feel insanely angry at poor DH when he winds me up or gets a bit naggy about things - as if I have enough on my plate with kids, work and pregnancy without him daring to say one cross word. Is it just me who is a mad hormonal mess?

I was so so calm and mellow last pregnancy and this pregnancy I'm so ratty it's awful!

Effie I am still bfing (hooray! so nice to meet someone else in the same boat) and I am experiencing the same pain - I'm afraid I don't know any way round it. The books I've read say it's common, and just to do with the fact that your nipples get more sensitive in pregnancy.

Plus if the milk supply goes down (which mine definitely has) then the baby sucks harder to compensate, which can hurt more.

I've been told that the pain is usually at its worst for the first trimester so I am hoping that it will go down soon... it does seem to be feeling slightly better, I am 14 weeks and something at the moment.

Can I ask, have you told your MW and what did she say? I had my booking appointment today and wasn't planning to say anything but the MW asked me how long I fed DS for, and I said 2 years, and she said in surprise "oo when did you stop?!" (he is 2 which she knows). I said "er... I, er... I haven't. Yet."

And then she gave me a really big lecture saying I had to make it a priority to cut down and that it was depriving the new baby of nutrients etc. I know from my reading this isn't true but I couldn't help feeling really got at and upset. Do you think I was unlucky to find an unsupportive MW? I am not determined to carry on at all costs - but I want to wean at a time that will be right for me and DS, not because I've been badgered into it...

sigh... sorry for the moan, just wondered if you had any advice/experience

Efie & Youngvisitor, I'm still breastfeeding too & get exactly the same pain - people I know who've fed through pregnancy say it tends to improve after the first trimester.

My midwife tried the same thing with me - couldn't produce any evidence of why it was a bad thing - looked pretty snotty when I told her I had no intention of weaning ds & was looking forward to tandem feeding. TBH I've dealt with so many idiotic HPCs that I don't hold back from telling them they're talking rubbish when in fact they're talking rubbish!

minster it's really nice to know I'm not the only person doing this! I think all my rl friends (who know) are a bit shocked/bemused although they are all being nice.

I love the sound of your kick-arse MW appointment, I think I am too much of a pushover. I just said weakly, "oh well, I'll think about it, thanks..."

kayz I went through a phase a couple of weeks ago with headaches every day. I've been trying to remember to drink more water, and to not get stressed (?!) which seems to be helping a bit. Otherwise I just rely on paracetamol and/or a very cold, damp flannel on the forehead or back of the neck. I think they're hormone-related headaches and quite common (according to various pg books I have) but annoying though!

I had a two hour nap yesterday which helped a lot. (Didn't ask DH if he could watch DD - just went off up to bed so he had no choice .)

abbymeg I'm at the cheeky lady at the hen night! I really don't understand how people can come out with things like that!!

Youngvisiter: the GP did say 'oh you'll want to stop that soon'. I nodded and smiled. Am planning to either lie or ignore the mw if she mentions it . TBH if DS decides to wean before DC2 arrives I won't be fussed, but he's down to one feed at night now so can't see why I should stop that in a hurry! Am pretty sure DH disagrees so will have to have a chat to him at some point... re: other people I just don't tell 'em. None of their business and they're unlikely to be helpful. Bring it on!

Hatty: am angry and hairy as well . Def hormones.

Thanks for the info on bfing, I thought it might be hormonal. Hope it settles down soon (ouch). One thing I did think was to get DH to do the bedtime routine regualarly (say once or twice a week) to get DS used to the idea as I'm sure there will be times I can't do it with the new baby.

Was reading the interesting thread about tandem feeding and a few advantages were mentioned that I hadn't thought of, like helping with engorgement (found that v painful last time round as I had oversupply probs).

rattyhatty (sorry, couldn't resist ) if it's any consolation I'm on a short fuse too. Stuff that wouldn't normally bother me (or that would, but I would rise above it) really really irritates me. Don't get me started on call centres!!! >stamps feet and huffs and puffs about a bit

Verso pmsl at rattyhatty! Sorry but relieved to hear I'm not the only ratty one!

I love your disappearing off for a nap too - I have to do this in our house, otherwise DH starts telling me how he absolutely must do something this morning/afternoon...

Had a 2 hour sleep yesterday morning was absolute bliss - my first daytime sleep this pregnancy and hopefully not the last!

Effie I was stunned by the tandem feeding thread too - I am too ratty to bring myself to post without my blood pressure going through the roof!

I tandem fed my twins, obviously same age, but got so sick of unwanted opinions that it was a really wierd thing to do.

Especially when the husbands and partners of female friends would start interrogating me with an incredulous look on their face kind of "what a wierd woman this one is, how freaky to feed two children at the same time" - rather than simply the best way I had found to instantly calm two crying little ones.

I think it's completely up to each individual how they choose to feed their baby/child - but why do people feel they can pass judgement on you for such a personal choice? Your body produces all the milk you need to do both doesn't it?