Due Dec 08: The Third Thread!!!!

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We completely filled the last thread so I have started a new one!!

I'll have to go get the list.

Hotmama great news about the CVS .

Southernbelle glad you're feeling better.

My sickness is actually getting better now I'm nearing 12 weeks on Monday and I'm a little less tired. I can eat most things, which is a relief.

I'm trying to be relieved that I'm feeling better rather than panicking that something's wrong!

I'm relieved in a way we have the nuchal next Friday so I can see the baby again and hopefully see everything is fine.

Now everybody seems to know in RL it's a bit scary. But also lovely - it feels like a really happy event and very real rather than a big worrying secret . People have been so much happier and instantly delighted than I thought they would be - I imagined people would think I was mad having twins and another baby on the wy - everyone we know has one or two children not three!

Have absolutely no inkling what sex the baby is - not a clue!

Last time around I was convinced I could tell I was having two boys and ended up having two girls so my maternal instinct is rubbish in that way anyway!

evening all

hotmama great news about the CVS

southernbelle glad you're feeling better

I am really struggling at the minute. Ds's sleep patterns have gone haywire for some reason, he wakes up around 1am, doesn't go back to sleep until after 4 & then up again before 7. Plus once I'm awake, I find it really hard to get back to sleep. I'm so tired, I get really grumpy & impatient with ds which isn't fair on him, especially as he's tired & grumpy as well. Plus I'm worrying about the stress its putting on the pregnancy as it can't be good for the baby .

Sorry about the me post but really needed to unload.

rosmerta I really sympathise - when we went on what was supposed to be a relaxing holiday my DS's sleep patterns went haywire and I was up all round the clock, and then waking at 5am French time (4am English time) for the day. I think I came back far more drained than when I went away!

I also feel guilty comparing my pregnancy this time round with being pregnant with DS. I really feel like I am shortchanging the new baby as I am constantly knackered and running around, I am not eating very well (I can't stomach vegetables except tomatoes , and I hardly ever think about the fact that I am pregnant (except in a resentful way when I have my head down the loo!)

By this time with DS I felt totally centred and really bonded with the baby, was eating healthily, resting up etc. This time round I find it quite hard to even remember that there will be a number 2 on the way shortly!

But please, please don't add to your stress by worrying about the effect on your new baby - your body is amazingly resilient and let's face it, if stress and grumpiness could affect the baby then I am sure all 2nd children (and the majority of 1st babies!) would be little shrimps.

Can you get a friend to take your DS for an hour or two in teh day so you can nap? On the days I am at home I have recently upped my DS's daytime nap to 2 hours (for totally selfish reasons - so I can get a nap too) and it's saving my sanity, honestly.

youngvisitor thanks for your reply. You're right its so draining. Ds is still napping at lunchtime for a couple of hours so I'm having a nap then, it's helping a bit but we're not catching up on the lost sleep!

Rosmerta: can you get your partner to take over the night wakings if you do the early mornings? When DS started waking again at night we did this and it seemed to work well - if DH went to him he wasn;t that bothered about staying awake . I've also started going to bed at a ridiculously early hour (before 9 last night) to get some sleep in (DS up again at 6 this morning, whcih is doable)

effie dh usually looks after ds until about 1-2am but he's trying to get his business off the ground which involves working evenings until late, so he's doing two jobs atm. And tbh it doesn't really make any difference which one of us goes in! You are right about the earlier nights though, guess it'll be 9pm bedtimes for me now!

Ok - so here's the thing . If I don't take my Pregnacare (or Sainsbury's equivalent) I feel knackered - but the iron in them makes me soooooooo constipated. Does such a thing as a non-constipating iron supplement (as mentioned tantalisingly in "What to Expect") exist in the UK?

And yes, I'm drinking loads of water, and eating fruit and vegetables and wholemeal this and that etc etc etc, not to mention probiotic yoghurt (I have IBS, to make matters worse). I got some plain folic acid to take and for that one week things were a LOT better, so I know it's the iron - but without the iron I feel exhausted. All suggestions welcome!

Rosmerta - sorry to hear about your DS's sleeping. I really feel for you. I am never good with broken nights but I find it torturous right now. 1am-4am is a rather crucial part of the sleep cycle IMO - how old is your DS? Will he go back to sleep if brought into bed with you?

Verso - poor you! I am afraid I have no tips. Could you ask your GP?

I hope everyone else is well. We had a lovely day in a nice pub garden with friends today. Met them for lunch at noon and stayed to 6pm . DD loved toddling round with various other kids and we hardly knew she was there so it seemed a shame to leave.

Rosmerta that sounds really rough. Hope the not sleeping phase ends soon

Verso no tips I'm afraid but you have my sympathy.

Artichokes-that is an impressive time in a pub garden with kids in tow.

I have felt so tired today. Supposed to be about to enter the blooming trimester but feel anything but

thanks for the sympathies. Ds did sleep through last night so feel a bit better today. We just can't predict if he will sleep or not though!

artichokes ds is nearly 2.5. I think I read that they go through a massive development phase at this age so wondered if it was that. He does go to sleep if brought into bed with us which I'vehad to do but its not something I want to make into a habit iykwim.

Anyway, sounds like you had a lovely time in the pub today!

majormoo I know how you feel, keep wondering when I'm going to get that blooming look and feel!

verso have you tried increasing your iron intake through food? Lots of leafy green veg etc and drinking oj with meals is meant to help absorb more iron.

Verso - I take a natural iron supp called Spatone. It's fortified water which you put in a glass of OJ and it builds up your iron levels. I usually have low iron but even worse in pg, which is not good. Iron tablets gave me the worst constipation so Spatone was a gift! It's on 3 for 2 in boots as well.

Impressive pub action Artichokes

Rosmerta, can you keep DS up a bit later at night? Or exhaust him so much in the daytime that sleep is not a choice? My DD1 is the devil for sleep, so I never go more than 10 mins in the car or she'll drop off. You have my hugest sympathies. Sometimes we walk for an hour just so she is sufficiently knackered to go to bed without too much fuss.

I've had a poor day. DD1 appalling at ballet this am, cried all the way through as she didn't have the ballet skirt (it's her first day so I wanted to check she was going to like it before shelling out on the kit). Then had booking at Kings, and got to read my notes from my last delivery. Suffice it to say the notes from the PN ward are inaccurate and I had to tell the MW exactly what had happened and why I did not want this baby at Kings. She's now referred me to see the consultant to talk to him about how I am feeling! I said that I was sure he didn't want to hear my daft hormonal rantings as he couldn't do anything about them, but she told me I needed looking after. I sort of feel as though I have been labelled a bit barking now though. We'll have to see what he says. Ideal would be that I could go to a different hospital but that won't happen. Just talking about it all brought it all back and it was vile. Poor MW, I hope she has now dried off.

chutneymary sorry all the old memories came back. I thought women were able to choose between hospitals these days?

chutney sorry about your hospital appt. You should be able to choose another hospital though.

I do tire ds out so much in the day. He always goes straight to sleep, he's just waking up at some point during the night. I personally think he wakes up & then gets scared because its so dark. Do any of your dcs have a nightlight? Was wondering about getting one and seeing if that helped at all.

Oh Rosmata, you have my sympathy with the sleeping. We have always has problems with dd and sleep and even now (at nearly 4) she still sometimes wakes in the night. Until recently we were having to sit with her at bedtime until she went to sleep and it was exhausting. Since we have stopped sitting with her it has made a slight difference to the waking in the night but broken sleep does get to you. I hope things improve and you get some more sleep.

artichokes - sounds like a lovely day in the pub! glad you had a good time

Sorry to hear about the iron thing Verso. No help here I'm afraid, but I hope you are able to find something to help (the spatone sounds good).

Majormoo, I hope you start feeling better soon. I am feeling totally different this time to when I had dd as with her I was tired and sick for months, but now, at 11 weeks it seems to be disappearing (no doubt I will have spoken too soon now!)

Chutneymary - sorry you've had a bad day. I hope the consultant will help you out and you have a much better experience this time.

I've had a busy day. We did our big food shop this morning as well as popping to town. DD was a little madam when we were there and it was just so blimin stressful. Part of me just wanted to laugh at her, but dh would not have appreciated that when he was embarrassed of her outburst as it was! I've been having a big cleaning day too. Have totally cleaned all 3 bathrooms/toilets from top to bottom, and it was sadly very satisfying!!

rosmata - we have bought dd a nightlight as she is scared of the dark. Although she does still wake up occasionally, she usually goes back to sleep quite quickly as it is not pitch black. It might be worth a try.

Morning all - I'm just catching up as DD has been up since 4am. I'm soooo tired. rosemerta I know just how you feel. She is 2 in August and has started having the odd tantrum here and there, including this morning. DH thought it would help putting her in our bed but she just ended up talking to me and pulling my haiir.

I'm really struggling with my hayfever at the moment - one of my eyes is red raw, and not much is helping. Went to GP who was a complete cow and told me to grin and bear it basically. I nearly smacked her she was useless!!!! If anyone has any ideas they are welcome as I feel like crying at the moment. If it keeps up will have to go back to Dr's but ask to see someone else.

cc: there was another thread the other day recommending something from Lloys the chemist - a machine you stick up your nose and it glows? non-chemcial anyway. There is stuff you can take when pg as well, so try another GP. I'm lucky in that I don't get hayfever when I'm pg - the only time it eases for me.

Souternbelle: my symptoms are easing off as well (at 11 weeks), Roll on the scan - only a week or so to go...

What date is your scan effie? Mine is on Friday 13th!! Lets hope it's not bad luck for me on that day eh!

I had an awful nights sleep last night so not feeling great this morning. DD woke up lads between 1 - 4am. She was coughing away and then just wanted me to be there and every time I went back to bed she would call out again. Will be making sure she has her inhaler tonight to try and make it better! And of course, when she has fallen alseep, I then couldn't so had serious lack of sleep

Of course dd (at 4) was not waking up lad - she was waking up loads

scan is on the 17th. Good luck for Friday

Morning,

I hope everyone is ok.

We went visiting family yesterday and I got awful travel sickness. I forgot my travel bands so we had to stop a few times so I could have some fresh air.

cc21, my SIL (who is a GP) suffers really badly with hayfever and continued to take medication during her 2 pregnancies - I am fairly sure that she took Piriton but I'll double-check and report back...

I've googled it and it looks like it is sometimes prescribed to use in pregnancy, though in low doses and only when really needed of course.

I'd say ask to see a different GP at your surgery (if that's an option) or speak to your midwife and see what she says, then you can go back to your GP armed with info about what's available. I'm sure if you stamp your feet they will change their minds.

cc21 I am with you with the hayfever- mine has been awful the last few days. I try to avoid taking anything as mine usually clears up towards the end of June, so it is only a month of grinning and bearing it. plus the tablets never seem to work with me anyway.However, I remember my midwife with DD telling me that she took her normal tablets during her own pregnancies. Trouble is I cannot remember what they were. As someone else said, there was a thread about this with lots of suggestions the other day. It must have been either in Pregnancy or Health.

Weather is lovely here today-kids had a great time at the paddling pool in the park

chutney sorry your booking brought it all back. Mine was similar, though I'm at a totally different hospital this time. This M/W labelled us a "vulnerable family" because of my birth trauma and PND last time. Bit worried that I too have been labelled "barking" - even though I reckon a slight emotional reaction was perfectly justified!

I have my notes from last time because of the complaint I made - but my hospital is still getting them from George's themselves (which is I suppose why I STILL haven't got my pg notes this time round! ).

Had a lovely day today. Unexpectedly gorgeous weather. Now halfway through building a flatpack barbecue (barbecube as DD says ) and decided to have a break!

Is anyone else getting lots of headaches?

I'm getting them nearly everyday and nothing seems to get rid of them except having a sleep. Which as many of you with DCs already will know is almost impossible some days.