Due June 08 - Creme egg season is over, summer is now here, so time to tidy the ladygarden before the big day

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I wonder how quickly we'll get through this thread?!?!?!?!

Morning everyone,

I had a realy bad night with heartburn which I hadn't suffered from for a couple of weeks. I wonder if the baby's head isn't engaged anymore so the baby is higher giving me heartburn or if it's just becasue the baby is massive it's pressing upwards again. I'm seeing the midwife in a couple of hours so will know then, I really want to be told it's fully engaged and will arrive within the next couple of days - ah wishful thinking!!!

Cheers for the tip I've also not been in town for ages. I don't go shopping when I've got all the kids with me (not paid to do that of course) and then weekends are always just too busy. I'm desperate for some new clothes but trying to save the pennies as the Maternity Allowance I'll be getting when on ML means a massive drop in income for those 12 weeks

G43 - feel for you on the heartburn. I've had this bad for about a week although luckily last night was ok (was too busy on loo with bad tummy instead!). At least I slept for 2/3 hours at a time last night, which is better than waking every hour like I have the rest of the week. What time you at midwife?

Seeing the midwife at 12, I'm really tempted to ask for a sweep!

Needahand, re hypnobirthing. The visualisation techniques certainly helped. As I was having contractions I was visualising a rose (my cervix) opening. And also during the pushing stage I was trying to breathe down into my abndomen (although that didnt work - I had forceps!) The hypnobirthing idea that you can pretty much sleep through labour and push the baby out - well, I didn't manage that! It was good in terms of a coping mechanism but as a method of giving birth, no. But that's just me, I think it could work for some people.

Greenfairy - help yourself to the birth plan - gald to be of help.

Which cheeky monkey was it that asked if me and DH were at it again yet? (Upsidedowncake?) Not quite yet, but I am raring to go once the stitches have healed! Can't understand why people go ages before having sex again, it will be nice to have that closeness especially at a time when our lives have undergone such upheaval.

DH gets a bit frustrated with the babies when they are not textbook. eg if he changes them and they fill their nappy again straight away... or if they won't settle in the night even though that are fed and changed.

Theo has taken to crying and feeding for three hours in the night. It has been four nights now, and Esther did it for two hours last night too.

I increased Theo's feeds in the day yesterday (every 2.5hours rather than every 3) and that helped - he slept from 11pm to 2am so I slept too) But then he woke at 2 and was unsettled till 5. Then he went to sleep till 8. Now he is back in his daytime sleep-all-the-time routine! I think I will feed him every two hours today to see if that is better. I have also expressed 2oz for each baby and DH is going to give them that at 11pm, so I can go to bed at 9pm tonight, and hopefully get to sleep till 2am. Yippee! Friday nights were never like this before....

Will makecakes have her baby now?

Neenz, you amaze me, you sound so full of energy!

splodgesmum I agree about some of the other threads having some rather mean spirited posters on them, particularly in the baby name threads! They can be so aggressive, surely just 'not a favourite of mine' will do rather than a sweeping generalisation about what the name says about you, your child and their future career prospects! I do laugh at the ones where someone askes if people prefer name a or name b, and people immediately answer with what about x it's much nicer???? strange!

Think Gemma must have gone into hospital... wonder who's going to be next, her or makecakes... it's a race to the finish!

jealous of those on mat leave already, think I have 8 working days left altogether...

had a bad evening yesterday, couldn't settle at all, and couldn't put my finger on why, but then managed an amazing night's sleep didn't wake up for the loo until 6am and am feeling refreshed and raring to go for the weekend!

Morning all,

Had a very strange night, because I went to bed convinced the baby would be coming. All night, I'd wake up (to pee...) and think 'oh, tomorrow I'll have a baby'. Dreamt about all sorts of labour-y things. Bizarre! No baby, no signs of one either and it's rather early! Besides, too much to do before he appears!

Re nasty postings - I think you have to choose your topics carefully. This antenatal thread is a lovely safe one, but I've had very bad experiences on breastfeeding (not going there again!), and I just posted without thinking through properly on Pregnancy, and got some strong feelings there. It's quite confusing because I was feeling down and anxious, but it made me sound like a selfish perfect-baby-for-me-or-nothing kind of woman. I'm not, just worried!

Hey up ladies, hope everyone is well today (spd, heartburn, niggles, etc aside).

I have 4 days left after today, one of them will be out of the office anyway, and I have some antenatal next week, so I'm just about done now! And then 14 months off for me! Can't wait!

Laura, it makes such a difference getting a decent sleep doesn't it? Added bonus it's in time for the weekend, you don't want to waste your own time feeling sleepy!

I agree there's some really vicious stuff on some of these boards - but as someone said, probably because it's online - bet those people would never say that kind of stuff in real life. I think some of them are so set in what they believe in, that they can't contemplate any view that's different. Oh well. None of that here thank goodness!

G43 - my heartburn is getting worse - I've had it throughout - maybe your mw can give you something, I get stuff on prescription. It works, but doesn't stop it happening unfortunately.

Thanks Neen. I am quite used to practicing the "J" breath so I hope to remember to use it when the times come. Gald to know it helped to some extent. If Theo carries on crying and seemed distressed it might be worth taking him to a cranial osteopath. He might have some pain due to forceps delivery. My DD has some pain due to ventous and it worked wonders. I am in awe at how well you are coping with twins as first children!!

I too had hearburn and couldn't sleep last night, so I can empathise with you G43

What about Josey? She hasn't posted since she said she had contractions...perhaps she is next. Oh I am so jealous! I want my baby now

Morning......all calm and quiet again few!!! I went out last night to a Pamperd chief party and at one point I thought I might laugh the baby out had dodgy contractions till 3ish then they must have stopped...still uncomfortable though....I have had runs like these with the others so expecting a few more.

Debs glad you had a lovely break

Upside how awful for your friend she needs to carry a rolling pin and bash her dh everytime he starts! as for my DH if I go they wil cancel his trip.

Splodge scan lovely, love the nappy cake as well....dont worry about the other threads I tend to just post on nice ones like these as there seem to be some regulars that like to bash people down.

G43 hope your apoointment goes well, I know what you mean about the sweep could do with one of those next week lol!

oh well better shift dd has swimming, thankfully her dad is taking her in again so I will just watch.

Hi everyone, I am still in the land of living!!!!!!

Holiday was fabulous apart from the fact that DS got chickenpox whilst we were out there and was not allowed to come home on our original flight!

DH came home on Sunday as expected but I had to stay out there with DS.

We were moved into the main town of Argostoli into a very nice hotel that was central. Unfortunatley with the heat, the lack of car, things were limited.

I had a slight fall on the Monday when I slipped on the marble precinct and managed to pull a muscle in my bum, so I am now waddling around like a duck.

I am absolutely exhausted and don;t really feel like I;ve had a holiday.

Went back to the hospital on Wednesday and DS was given the go ahead to fly, so caontacted the insurance company and they arranged a flight for us that afternoon which was great until we got to the airport and found it closed!

Called the ins co again, only to find that they'd been given the wrong date for the flight and it was infact Thursday.

DS was so upset and cried all his way back to the hotel and luckily they managed to put us up for the extra night.

Being 33 weeks pregnant in a foreign country on your own (adult I mean) with a very lively 4 yo is bloody hard work.

Got to the airport yesterday and discovered that there was an air traffice controllers strike and we weren't sure we'd be able to get out then. After a five hour delay (with nothing really to entertain a 4 yo at the airport apart from a book) we got on our flight and arrived home at 10.30pm last night. (12.30 greek time and DS had been up since 5.30 as he was so excited about coming home!

Well if you wrote a short story on this no one would think it was possible. Unfortunately DS is still on greek time and was up at 5.30 again today.

Sorry this is all a me, me, me post, but I thought I would share my exciting adventure with you.

I now need to do the mountain of washing, go and get some food in, look after DS and keep him amused as food shopping is not really his thing and my parents have gone away for the weekend so can't even palm him off on them for a couple of hours!

Que sera sera. Also I need to find the time to catch up on all the posts. Has anyone had their baby yet?

DH texted me at the airport yesterday and said what else can go f*g wrong? Don't answer that! I did mention I could have the baby at this rate.

I've got my consultants appointment on Monday and I dread to think what my blood pressure reading will be. Plus I have to go back to work. Oh well.

Catch you later..........

So sorry for the long long post.

Hiya - just completed my shopping list for major cooking marathon.

FYI this is what I've been told to eat/not to eat with ref fruit and veg and booze whilst breast feeding to avoid a windy baby - not meant as a DO THIS/DO THAT - but more for interest:

What's in:
peas (small portion)
Sweet / normal potato
carrots
lettuce
avocados
sweetcorn
tomatos (only in small quantities)
apples
pears
dried fruit (prunes and apricots)
bananas - not too many, but good for energy
red wine
guiness [yuck]

What's out:
green beans
cabbage
brocoli
Onion (there goes my bolognase sauce)
lemons
cucumber
any kind of berry
citrus fruit
grapes (the worst offender)
bran flakes (dispute this, but I'll just have to have oat museli instead)
champagne

Be careful with pate in the first few weeks (probably becuase you'll be so knackered you won't want the runs too), but smelly cheese is fine.

Champagne, mellymell? Don't believe you. La la la I'm not listening (or reading).

How about champagne as pain relief in the early stages?

G43 - are you allowed a sweep before due date then?

Neenz - interesting about the hypno-birthing, may try some of that breathing. Need to do some practicing as not been to any ante-natal classes this time, let alone hypno-birthing. As for how you're coping with the twins.......you sound amazing!! agree about cranial oestopath, heard very very good things. I know that going to the oestopath with my spd saved me!!

Laura - pleased you managed to sleep until 6am, I could really do with a night like that to refresh me

Essie3 - dreams around this stage can be pretty realistic can't they! As for the thread.....I know which one you mean and I totally knew where you were coming from. You just have to try and ignore the nasty posts. Easier said than done!

whinegums - wow, 14 months off!!! Not surprised you can't wait!!

josey - hope things either settle right down for you or the baby arrives soon. Must be annoying having all these contractions but no proper labour

libralady - OMG, what a nightmare!!! I'd be in a right state in your position!! I real feel for you, you must try and get some rest!

mellymell - thanks for sharing that, very good to know all that as ds was a windy bf baby (5 yrs ago) and I didn't know about foods etc!

Right, ds wants an early lunch so going to get it sorted. Feel like having a nap (something I never manage to do as usually got other kiddies here) but sods law midwife would turn up whilst I'm sleeping.

Bugger - have just tried to do my whole mammoth shop online and they have run out of minced lamb and beef - what a pain - means I'm going to have to do a separate shop on Saturday - sigh.

Essie - I also ignored the champagne is banned line - definitely had to have a few sips once I got home from hospital!!

Re the red wine - was advised to have immediately after the last evening feed so that it could work its way through my system and not affect my milk much.

Midwife just called and is on her way

Thanks for ideas re osteopath - it wasn't something I'd considered. But I am happy to give it a try. Do you think that would make him cry just for those three hours? He is very happy all day, it is just these three hours in the night.

All I know is that craniel oestopaths are supposed to be able to work wonders. Maybe do a bit of googling or post on another section and ask for feedback from others but yes, I'm sure that things can make them cry at just set times like that. Whatever you decide/do, hope it's sorted soon and you get some peace

Looneytune (any anyone else): that particular thread has got quite nasty now, and I wish I hadn't started it. I certainly won't respond, but feel really bad that someone who admitted to feeling the same as me is getting it in the neck now. I think it's easy to be quite naive about these things - I'm learning fast that there are certain topics which aren't for 'healthy' discussion even on mumsnet. Shame - I depend on mumsnet quite a lot to keep me feeling normal (wish I'd found it months ago when I was feeling like a total freak and insane with AND).

Lunch now (hmm what to have?) and a pedicure after lunch - hooray!

Neen my DD started crying a few days after she was born and sometimes she would cry all day/all evening. 3 hours a night is not unheard of, I think it is pretty normal, but if he carries on or if it is high pitch crying (like he is in pain, which is what DD sounded like) it is worth taking him to the CO. The CO will tell you if he/she detects anything or not anyway. I would try to rule out other reasons for crying first though (eg: hungry, overexcited/tired). But the fact that only Theo cries and not Esther makes me think that perhaps there is something there (although I am no way an expert).

See how it goes, follow your intuition at the end of the day you are best placed to detect something that is not in the normal pattern

Essie I am being nosy. Which thread is it?

Right off to the shops now. We'll see if I have any luck in H&M. I fancied a new pair of flip flops, but given the weather I am not sure it is such a good idea

Hi all,

Essie - dont worry too much about the thread you started. Some subjects stir strong emotions in people and the conversation can get quite heated. I just had a read over your thread and didn't think it was too bad to be honest. For the record, I think it's a perfectly normal worry with a first pregnancy and I'm sure lots of people go through it (including myself).

Baby threads on the other hand can be truly evil!!!! On one hand if you ask for an opinion you have to be able to take whatever opinion is thrown at you, but I do think sometimes people are way over the top.

mellymell am putting my head in the sand re: list of what to eat/not to eat. I'd never get my 5 a day!!!

libralady - so sorry to hear about your holiday drama.

I've only got one week left at work - yay! And it's only a part-time week - double yay!

Ooh, interesting... Just spotted a thread about bf diet and colic/windiness. Bit topical so here it is!

neenz - i also had a great piece of advice about babies crying, particularly at the end of the afternoon between 4-6pm when they just can't stop. Just think of it as exercise - the baby can't walk or run and is just exercising the only way it knows how to. Stops one worrying quite so much.