Due June 08 - As we start nesting will the creme eggs start hatching?

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Another new thread! By the time this one runs out we might have some babies!!! Although, we do chat a lot so maybe not...

morning! I had my first leg cramp last night - bloody painful and surprising. Ouch! Now I have way more sympathy for those who've been having them for ages. Still it was a way better sleep than the night before when I started remembering about DS's birth (had nicely supressed it) and panicking. Since I know my body sucks at birth, DH and I have decided that we should enquire about skipping the MLU altogether and going straight for the labour ward.

Morning all, only 2 breakfasts to do today and then off to the physio for another session, I think I overdid it this weekend and feeling a bot sore.

Libralady - where are you going?

Morning all!
Think i had better nights sleep yesterday too, temperture has eased up a bit now, however its 7.30 am and already nearly 25 degrees.

Ihave to go into the hospital today for first appointment of monitoring not sure how long ill be there for so got snacks, drinks and magazines to keep me busy!!

Alipali- my NCT homework consists of 6 pages of exercises which im supposed to do everyday!!! and of course i always do After swimming though on mon wed and fri i dont feel like doing anything else!
The MW always asks us a question like the exercise thats good for this how does that go!

Poppy34- re movements my dr said i had to feel 10 movements in 4 hours if i didnt i was to try again either in eve if had tried am or am if had tried eve if still didnt feel 10 then had to go to hospital. But reading up on what they say in england they say about 10 a day! so dont know exact guidelines either. I know that i experience same as neenz i think she doesnt move when im busy only when sitting relaxing! but obviously thats only what i feel!

I do a kick chart cause dr asked me to but sometimes i forget!
well will catch up later hope you all had good weekends

Morning everyone,
We had a lovely weekend, I spent most of it sitting in the garden reading which was lovely. Only got 2 weeks to go at work so this is my last monday, yeah!

Aberdeen - my leg cramps eased off when I started making sure I was eating a banana every day, had gone off them as they were giving me heartburn but that seems to have eased a bit.

I got woken up at 4.30 this morning by my neighbour, it seems they get home every night between 2.30 and 4.30 and she has the loudest voice ever, I can hear them coming all the way down the street, even when they aren't having an argument, which most of the time they are! Usually I manage to get back to sleep but last night that was it, I was awake!

Morning everyone....have finally caught up on all the chat over the weekend whilst listening to breakfast news. They had a story on pregnancy cravings...slightly disappointed I didn't get anthing weird.

I had NCT all-day class on Friday, which was exhausting, but quite a laugh. One lady is having naturally conceived twins...I think of Neenz every time I see her. Had a hectic weekend as my dad came to stay...he actually had some good advice to give, and I think DH was quite reasssured to hear a man's perspective on childbirth.I'm in quite a lot of pain now, though but have mw coming to see me today.

DH has gone up North for two days. He left strict instructions for me not to go into labour! That's the first time he's said that, so it made us both laugh, and sort of brought it home that we will soon be having a baby......

Morning everyone

Corrie storyline sounds interesting. They should ectopics or early miscarriages - far more common!

Lucky Libra, going on holiday!

Can't believe I've only another 8-10 weeks to go! This baby is measuring much larger now so am feeling pretty happy. Perhaps I'll even go into natural labour!

I'll look up pregnancy movements on the DH website. The baby might be asleep for long periods of time so can't believe that it would 10 movements an hour.

Neenz the corrie storyline has made me v paranoid too, and I don't even watch it! I keep reading about it in magazines though and everytime I start panicking about when baby last moved.

whinegums thanks again for the adaptors, DH v impressed at the power of Mumsnet! We found the same about the useful stalls being very busy, and what was with the enormous stall which appeared to be for fake tan? [confused. Did manage to buy some totsbots nappies though at large reduction, so was definately worth the admission fee for that alone!

Is anyone else finding that people are now reluctant to let you talk about anything APART from babies these days? we went out for dinner with colleagues of DH on friday night, and his very nice mum-of-three colleague spent the entire evening giving me lots of advice, which was lovely of her (and included offering to come round and help if I was struggling with breast feeding) but after about an hour I would have quite liked to talk about something else for a short while - or even just eaten my meal!

DQ sorry, only got your message this morning, hope you had a good time!

Hope I didn't offend anyone with my comment on internet research , it's just my personal opinion, and is more based on the fact that the internet is full of dodgy pseudo-medical research which can sound very convincing but is not carried out in a scientific manner or doesn't contain enough cases to be statistically relevant. It's the people who publish this dodgy stuff as gospel that annoy me, not the peope who are trying to get useful information for themselves.

re: episiotomies, for those of you who are in the 'if it's necessary' camp and would consider one in the event, the woman I was talking to on Friday said that with her third she gave consent in advance for this as with her second she needed one very quickly and in the time it took for them to ask her consent and her to give it it was too late and she had torn (way TMI at the dinner table!)just a thought to bear in mind maybe?

Hi all! Glad to see everyone had a good but uneventful weekend (as in nothing dramatic and baby related)

looney I am glad things are looking up for you and that the HB might be back on track. I am so desperate for one (especially after having seen the state of my hospital) that I booked a team of independant midwifes. I had my first appointment this weekend and the IMW said she would look into that urine test result and also blood test and swab as the results are not in my notes. She was so lovely and it is so much more relaxed to be cared for by IMW

U/Cake I thought your story about the episiotomy doctor was hilarious. I bet you are glad you had your own back at him. I know I would, life small pleasures and all that! And happy birthday late

Rolf Not I am not feearning anymore I am a corporate commercial lawyer in-house which I find more interesting and relaxing than fee-earning. I don't think you are unemployable outstide london at all, smaller/regional firms are usually more open minded. It might take starting again at a smaller firm but might be worth a try. I don't know where you practice before but if it was London, I suspect the work-life balance outstide London would be better. I worked for a medium size firm in Kent for a while and it was sooo chilled! I think if you wanted to go back you would just have to do a bit of updating in terms of case law etc but that's all and I would think the current economic climate is quite good for litigators!

Neen re stillbirth fear. I think it is very normal, I am sure pretty much every pregnant woman has this fear or fear of death during labour, and once the baby/ies are born it transforms in a fear of sudden infant death. See that is the problem with having kids, you always worry about them!

morning all! hope everyone had a good weekend. i think good sleep is now over... i was up no less than 5 times for the loo last night. i hadn't even drank that much i think the baby is just right on my bladder, and knocking it about regularly. i shouldn't complain because i've had fab sleep this whole pregnancy so i guess it's my turn to start getting used to night feeds!!

LL very of beach hols, wishing you a fab time and that you get your cert easy. did you end up using that same insurance co i did?

udowncake happy belated birthday!!

re movement i don't keep track but i don't feel like i have to as this baby never sleeps in comparison to ds. i find myself praying he slows down a bit by the time he's born.

SA that's a serious case of pregnancy brain! Hope you get a refund really quickly.

I've never watched Corrie and it seems now is not a good time to start. I keep worrying that the baby is going to shoot out very quickly with the cord around it's next being strangled and then when the baby is born I will be poking it in it's sleep to make sure it's okay - the worry is never ending!

Needahand - I've only ever worked in the City. I was really upfront about working hours when applying for my last job and told them that my childcare arrangements weren't particularly flexible, and that whilst I could be available on the phone/e-mail if they needed someone to stay late I wasn't the girl for them. They were fine about it, although obviously if it had been a fee-earning job that wouldn't have worked at all.

My concern with firms up here (north-west) is that they are likely to have their own fee-earners who want to do PT PSL work when they return from maternity leave. And whilst I have PSL experience and a good CV (apart from the huge gaps!) I expect most employers would prefer someone they already know.

I'm quite glad it's all theoretical at the moment. I rarely miss working and I'm so lucky to be able to be home with the children. DH's job takes him away from the family so much that I think we'd find it really difficult not to have me around to keep things ticking over.

I think this baby is still breech. Most of the movement I'm feeling is quite low down and I can defintiely feel kicking/punching movements around my pelvis rather than "ball and socket" movements. I guess I'll find out on Thursday when I see the midwife.

Thanks for the sympathy about DD. She was pretty much ok this morning and is now with the childminder (thank goodness - I really need a break!).

on the subject of preg brain i just took ds' cereal bowl into the kitchen with one hand and a wet nappy in the other hand and put the bowl in the bin and the nappy in the sink.

Rolf I suspected you were a former city laywer like me. I really really don't see why you would have an issue. You CV must be ace and not disrepect to lawyers anywhere but I have noticed recently that a stint in the city however short definitely shapes you and that is a massive plus. I don't know much about PSL roles, wouldn't you consider going back to fee-earning, or perhaps you should consider tutoring/lecturing at a law school, that would be more flexible than PSL/fee earning and with your experience, I would expect people to fall over themselves to employ you.

Laura yes unfortunately with first babies, people tend to forget you are a person and not just and incubator and talk to you about the babies non stop (not so bad second time around luckily). And yes I agree, you spend so much time talking/thinking of the little ones that sometimes, you could do with a break and talk about other things. The worst thing is that sometimes all you friends can talk about is the baby and then when it is born they resent you because all you talk about is the baby and accuse you of being obsessed!

It has just taken me ages to read the posts from this weekend - I really must try to log on at least once a day.

Re: baby movements - I thought that you only had to feel 10 movements in one day? My baby is often very quiet for the whole morning and then has patches of movements a couple of times a day. I also think that I probably miss some of his movements as I'm so busy running around after the other two.

Pregnancy brain should definitely be a recognised medical condition. I'm sure if you write to the bank they will do something about your charges. Mine is mostly confined to immediately forgetting anything anyone has told me, and putting things in the wrong place - eg. the butter in the cupboard instead of in the fridge. My mother claims it gets temporarily worse after the birth, but I think that was just her excuse for leaving one of my brothers at the shops a few days after he was born and walking home with that 'what am I missing' feeling. It wasn't until she got home and dad asked were the baby was that she remembered him!

sybil agree with pregnancy brain being recognised as a condition. At the moment I have the worst time with IT. I keep forgetting to save documents, or save them randomly or corrupt them somehow etc.. The IT guys at my company (who luckily are absolutely adoreable and lovely) must have a laugh each time I call them. Sometime I catch them smirk in that "what has she done now kind of way" and I don't blame them!

Morning all - LOL at two weeks being a long time in soapland to get over a tragedy!

Re movements, I think it depends on what is normal for your baby. I know that in the evenings my babies squirm a lot. So if I sit on the sofa after tea and don't feel ten movement in an hour or two then I would suspect something might be wrong. But at antenatal they said you only need to feel ten movements in a day. I think it is different for everyone. You know what is normal for your baby.

Rolf - you have a very demanding job already . What kind of law do you do? If it is crime then when the time comes my DH could have something at his firm or put you in touch with other solicitors in Liverpool. But I think you are right about holding things together at home. I can imagine the sort of hours your DH does and I imagine it would be a nightmare if you worked too. Four kids is the best excuse to be a SAHM (I am halfway there with the twins!! Just give me five more years...)

Sybil -lol at your Mum forgetting your brother.
When ds1 was tiny I didn't forget him, but I put him in the car and forgot to fasten his car seat in, I did remember a bit further down the road and I felt dreadful. Another thing I remember is that constant rocking, pushing you do when you have baby in the pram and you're trying to get it to sleep, then I went to Tesco without ds and was doing it with the trolley!!!

Having a rest - been painting the balcony this morning whilst the weather's so good,I've told ds1 that after his homework he can help as the lower bits are quite difficult with bending.

Pregnancy brain strikes again! After going over to speak to the secretary in my new department to sort out moving my stuff over I stopped off in the toilet on the way back to my office. Imagine my horror when I came out of the toilet and saw a set of urinals!!!!!!!! The worst thing was I actually had to stop and think about why there were urinals in the ladies toilet Fortunately there were no men using them so I was able to scuttle away feeling very stupid!!!!

Hehe! Must be pregnancy brain day!!! Loving all the stories.

Ive just got back from shopping etc unloaded the taxi and then shut the front door, was surprised when the doorbell rang just after i shut it, the taxi driver is there. I forgot to pay him!!!!!

Hospital all well LO is soooo fine that she kept kicking so hard the monitors kept getting dislodged so they couldnt hear heartbeat!!!! hehe

Got onocologist appointment tonight so hope all well there too

Re basket for friend i went this morning and got basket and have now filled it with some lotions oils for her, biscuits and other food bits , small toy for baby, muslins and 2 towels (cause reckon you can never have enough) and some nappy sacs! (last one may sound wierd but over here they dont know what they are really i spied them and thought oooh have to bulk buy!!)

Now going to chill in garden with a magazine, beer (non achohol) and lunch. Weather here is bearable today now bout 27 degrees

Hope its nice and sunny where you all are and if youre at work that time passes quickly.

hi everyone - my only pregancy brain today is inability to remember everything I wanted to comment on by the time I finish reading the thread.

No worries re: sat Laura - it was completely my own fault so hope you had a good time.

Jealous of your afternoon plans paro.

I feel like someone has flicked a switch over the weekend and I'm now permanently exhausted and desperate to finish work. I'm only doing 4 days a week from here on in, but am really looking forward to finishing.

Revision going appallingly - finding it really hard. I get too tired too quickly and also get really uncomfortable. I alternate between computer chair at desk and kitchen table chair and neither are great in terms of support. Usually they're ok but I guess in pregnancy you need more support.

Anyone else finding it v hard to get comfortable when watching tv etc?

Re: movements - my mw hasn't mentioned monitoring movements at all and I've read varying accounts of how many movements - 10 a day, 10 between breakfast and evening meal, 10 in morning and 10 at night... Its sooooo confusing. I'm just trying to watch out for any variations in movement. My LO is very active when I wake up in the morning and again in the evening if I'm lying on the sofa.

paro hope all goes well at your appointment this evening.

My afternoon plans consist of staring at Xrays for hours... luckily it is not 27 degrees here today, that would definately distract from working!

DQ I am also desperate to finish work if only because a) I'm lazy these days and b) I've starting an over ambitious knitting project which is going to take me forever and I'd rather be doing that... so far I've managed 17 rows in 2 weeks, (and another 15 or so that I've had to undo!)

deb excellent work in recruitung the boys to help paintthe low down bits bending is definately something that I'm missing! DH was gardening at the weekend, and is very keen, but tends to carefully hoe around dandelions and buttercups and other such weeds. normally I follow him around and say "this is a weed" and pull it up, but they are far too low down and consequently flourishing at present!

DQ - I am also mean to be studying really at mo. Have some assignments due at beginnig of may and couple more after that. Think the exams in June will have to be postponed though!!! Luckily i can redo stuff in Jan!

But i know what you mean bout studying i am either not confortable, too tired, can t be botheres! or just cant concentrate!

Think will try first thing in am when weather is cooler!

I'm finding that I'm very uncomfortable on a sofa and have been sitting on a wooden dining chair instead and just generally moaning about how uncomfortable I am. It's not a good sign since I've still 5+ weeks to go!

16 more days in the office for me! And I might take a couple more days off too... which means I really better get some work done!

Josie - lol at your pregnancy brain!

Neenz - that's a kind offer - thank you. I used to do commercial litigation so know nothing whatsoever about crime. TBH, I only ever think about returning to work if I'm having a bad day at home . I'll see how I feel in a year or so...

I went into town today and I think it might be my last trip for a while - I am exhausted. I was waddling around like a Weeble, permanently out of breath and needing the loo every half hour!

Very very foolishly, in a moment of weakness last week, I told DH that seeing as he was letting me have the 4 children I've always wanted I would relent and let him have a dog. I've been resisting for years on the basis that I'm prepared to deal with the shit of one species at a time. Now he's terribly excited and keeps talking about where the dog could sleep etc etc. Still no discission on baby names, no sign of my maternity clothes, no plans to get the baby things out of storage... . I'm trying to backtrack by saying that it's important that he knows he'll be around to train the dog otherwise it will end up feral like DD