Due June 08 - As we start nesting will the creme eggs start hatching?

[bitofadramaqueen]

Another new thread! By the time this one runs out we might have some babies!!! Although, we do chat a lot so maybe not...

LauraT, I'm going to the Baby Show early doors Saturday morning, so if you haven't already got a jiffy bag, we could meet up and I can give you the adapters? I'm also going with a chum - DP has been pram shopping with me once, and that's quite enough for both of us! We're planning to do a swoop and leave by lunch time if that coincides with your plans? You've got my email if you want to sort out a meet up anyway, but no obligation.

Just re-reading the last lot of the morning posts - DQ hope you're ok, doesn't sound nice.

PP - M&S in store as well as online. Odd that they have no men's stuff in the clearance, was going to look for new trews for DP, but he's onto plums.

Sympathies to all those with DCs already and dealing with difficult boys. I have an older brother who was a nightmare when we were growing up - and yes, he often tried to get me into trouble, and blamed me for things he'd done. Maybe it is just a boy thing. I have to say when I found out I was having a boy the first thing I thought was that I hope he doesn't turn out like his uncle!!

DQ - it sounds like a visual migraine to me, I used to get something very similar to what you describe, tunnel vision I think it is called, where I could see what I was directly looking at but everything else was flashing and kind of whizzing round! I didn't used to get headaches with mine but felt a bit spacey afterwards. I was getting them a lot when I was on the pill and I had one right at the beginning of this pregnancy. I had my eyesight checked which was fine, my doctor said that it could be the start of full blown migraines developing but once I came off the pill they stopped so think it was to do with the hormones especially as the start of this pregnancy caused another one.
Definitely speak to your midwife though.

DQ I used to get similar vision probelms followed by stress migraines - luckily they stopped once I left that job! Hopefully that is all it is - not anything too much worse (although annoying I know!)

Yep - definitely have cankles if that description is correct - no bone, no definition... just bulges... sigh... only 6 weeks to go!

DQ Deffo sounds like migraine to me. One of my work colleagues had exactly the same thing a couple of weeks ago - and he's a man so deffo not pg!!
Sounds like you need a lie down/ something to drink and less stress...
But am glad you rang the mw - always worth a check.
Hope you feel better soon.

Hi everyone - still waiting for the mw to call back but feeling reassured that everyone thinks it might be a migraine. I dont think I've ever really had one before; I used to get a lot of eye strain headaches when I was younger and they thought that I was having migraines then until they discovered a hard to diagnose eyesight problem. I've had my eyes tested very recently so know that everything ok on that front.

Not particularly feeling under stress or anything (bizarrely despite forthcoming exam am remarkably calim ).

Anyway, will get off the computer as I'm sure that's not helping - will give an update later once (if!) I've spoken to the mw.

whinegums and laura am quite jealous that you guys going to the baby show on Sat. I need to study .

Hi everyone

Nettie I have cankles too! mw asked me on tues if I had swelling, said I didn't think so, but when I looked that night they are HUGE! But I remember they got even worse after I had ds, don't know if it was the heat of the hospital, but I have never seen anything like it.
Quick reminder can't remember if I said before, but if your rings are getting tight take them off, the number of people I know who had to have their rings cut off after having a baby!!

Whinegums I going to the babyshow, but probably on sunday. I woman I work with brought in a voucher was in daily mail yesterday, 2 for 1 tickets, so if you can get your hands on one it might save you £8.

My friend was being induced last night, she was 10 days overdue. After a steady stream of texts they stopped about 12.30am and I text her this am but didn't get a reply. I am sure she must be in labour and I am desperate for news! My phone gets really rubbish reception in work and I keep thinking she might of text and I've just not got it.

hugs to josey - my DS is sick today and feeling miserable and making me miserable too - I've had to stop myself from snapping at him, after all he is sick.

boys can't be harder than girls overall though - I'm counting on it being easier in the teenage years. I know I was a nightmare for my parents and my brother was a breeze in comparison.

Early June - Kif -(DC3)
29/05/08 - goingfor3 -(2 dds, 4 and 6, mc july) BOY!
29/05/08 - flosspot/makecakesnotwar -(1st baby, mc June 07)GIRL!!
29/05/08 - katyjo -(1 ds 20 months)
29/05/08 - neenz (it's twins so EDD now May 8, no other DCs, MC Mar 07) 1 BOY and 1 GIRL
31/05/08 - systemsaddict -(1 ds 1YO) GIRL
31/05/08 - lazylou -(1 DD 3.9/ MC September 04)
01/06/08 - laughinglil -(3YO twins)
01/06/08 - Trix11 -(DS and DD)
01/06/08 - alipalli -(1st baby)
03/06/08 - paromapu -(first baby)a girl will be called Fleur
05/06/08 - Tizzwizz -(MC June)
05/06/08 - emotionalwreck
05/06/08 - aberdeenhiker -(DS, June 06)
05/06/08 - Josey -(1 DS8yo, 1 DD2yo)GIRL
05/06/08 - mistermoo -(DD5, DS3)
06/06/08 - Calebsmum -(DC2)
06/06/08 - supperwoman -(DC2)
06/06/08 - nettiehay -(first baby)
06/06/08 - Lucy0608 -(1st Baby)
07/06/08 - Debinaustria -(2 ds's 8 and 6)BOY
07/06/08 - mellymel -(DS 14 months)
07/06/08 - dylansluckymum -(1DS 23 mos) BOY!
07/06/08 - Rolf -(2 dss 8 and 6, 1dd 2) GIRL
10/06/08 - basilbrush -(1 DS Feb 06, 2 m/cs 2007)
11/06/08 - thegreenfairy -(first baby)
12/06/08 - Pregnant Penguin -(1st baby) BOY
13/06/08 - tassisssss -(ds aged 4, dd 15 mths)
14/06/08 - Deese20 -(1st Baby)
15/06/08 - Jules43 -(1st baby)
15/06/08 - sybilvimes -(2 dc)Boy!!
17/06/08 - GardenAngel4 -(DD 7months)
18/06/08 - Josie57 -(ds1 13 months, mc sep 07)
18/06/08 - hedgehog1979 -(first baby)
19/06/08 - Pyjamarama -(BOY)
20/06/08 - babyalfie -(got 3 DC - 16, 14 & 7)
20/06/08 - ernest -(got 3 dc - 8, 7 & 4) will be sectioned on 06/07/08
20/06/08 - poppy34 -(2 m/c, one ds lost at 21 weeks) (GIRL)
20/06/08 - whinegums - (first baby) BOY
21/06/08 - HeyBaby07 -(First Baby)
21/06/08 - Hoggle -(First Baby)
21/06/08 - needahand -(DC2) (boy)
21/06/08 - Wigeon -(First Baby)
22/06/08 - Upsidedowncake -(1DS 27 m, ep Aug 07) GIRL
22/06/08 - bitofadramaqueen -(first baby)
22/06/08 - august26bride -(First Baby)
22/06/08 - splodgesmum -(m/c twins April '06, m/c Oct '06, all IVF pgs) Boy!
22/06/08 - ktpie -(first baby)
23/06/08 - looneytune -(DS 4 yrs) BOY
24/06/08 - puddock -(first baby)
26/06/08 - LauraT (first baby)
26/06/08 - Claphamkitten -(first baby)
27/06/08 - sophiewd -(DD 22 months) section booked on 19th June
30/06/08 - capricornqueen appt-(DD 2yrs)
30/06/08 - Kittyjimjams -(2 MC)
Gemzooks - EDD???

Just updated my details....

Had great MW appt Tues. Both twins are still head down, Theo's head is engaged - but she didn't seem to think labour was imminent. Probably just no room left for his head to go anywhere else. She said if I can get to 36 weeks then they should be perfectly healthy and 37 weeks I'll be home and dry. 35 weeks today...

She also read my birth plan and had no problems with it even though it is very 'natural childbirth' and there are lots of things on it (no continuous monitoring, no epidural, no IV) that they don't like when it is twins, they like to medically manage you, but MW thought it was great so I am confident about asserting myself during labour now and won't be fobbed off with 'you are putting your babies at risk'. As long as the consultant is happy with it at my next appt then I should be able to have the things I want (unless I change my mind during labour - which I might!)

460 posts and we've only been going a week!

Great news re your MW appointment, Neenz. I thnk it's amazing to hear you say things like 'Theo's head is engaged'!

DQ, hope you are feeling better.

PP, sorry about your move. Glad that it will be soon.

Greenfairy, how are you feeling about your move?

Me, the most head-in-sand person ever has been reading all about hypnobirthing this afternoon. Sounds like a lot of work to get the relaxations right! Any experiences???

Right off to have shower and get dressed for restaurant tonight.

Josey - sorry you're having such a difficult time with your DS. My boys (more the younger one) are a bit like this when they are overtired or run down. I don't think anything he's doing sounds out of the ordinary, but it's certainly not what you need right now.

What helped my DS2 a lot (and it sounds ridiculous) was sorting out his constipation and digestion generally. His concentration and behaviour improved tremendously. I agree with Deb about having a chat with his teacher.

Otherwise what helps when they/one of them gets in a state like this is:

1. re-establish routine. If I'm having trouble getting myself and everyone up in the morning and we're all in a panic with me yelling - trying to calm things down really helps. I found it helped to get dressed before breakfast (all of us) and allowing time for DS2 to take his time going to the loo. Could you re-jig the order of your routine, so eg the dog gets fed before he plays football or has breakfast? If you're on the spot to gently remind him rather than find out a bit later that he's not done it, it might take the confrontation out of it.

1. having the kitchen clear for when they get home from school (I know, gross of me that that isn't always the case ), a piece of fruit and drink then straight into homework so it's out of the way. It also makes it easier to offer "carrots" as an aid to getting homework done - eg tv, xbox, etc. When I'm being organised the boys know that they won't get any "fun" stuff until the homework is done.

1. spending a bit of time with each child 1-to-1 each day. I'm finding this difficult as DD is so bad about going to bed, and I'm too tired to want to bond with anyone!

1. on the one hand treating him in a more grown-up way, eg giving him a job to do that I wouldn't previously have trusted him with. On the other hand lots of mummy-tlc. We find when we're tucking them up in bed, or they are lying in the bath, is when some of the problems get poured out.

1. make sure they are eating enough, getting enough sleep etc. DS1 gets very weepy when he's overtired and I've learned to give some of the after-school activities a break when he gets like this.

I know all this is common sense and it's the sort of thing I should be doing all the time, but (for me anyway) lots of the details go out of the window when I'm tired/ run down/anxious etc.

DQ - hope the midwife calls back soon.

MW appointment today for 34 wks. All was fine. Head down and bottom up . This is what I thought as I have had some strange twinges "down there" this week. MW pressed her fingers q hard on either side of the head to the point where it hurt! Makes me think that if that hurt how pathetic am I going to be later on?

PP - You made me LOL with your description of the other couples at your NCT meet and greet. I was genuinely surprised and relieved by how normal everyone at our class was. Difficult one regarding whether to move house early or not. If it can be avoided I would stay put for now (especially with the money implications). I guess it depends how awful your neighbour is. Maybe you will have a noisy baby and you will be able to give him a taste of his own medicine in a few weeks time?

Upsidedowncake, I have bought Marie Mongan's HypnoBirthing book/CD and also the Natal hypnotherapy CD and they have both been useful in different ways. The book is quite in-depth but it is difficult to practise the techniques because you have to close your eyes - but still read the book to find out what to do next! But with perseverance it can easily be done.

With Natal it is really all about the CD but it doesn't seem to me to be enough. You'd have to wait for labour to find out. I know lots of people have just used the Natal CD and been fine but I like the book as well cos it goes into the theory more. Natal is easier cos you only have to listen to the CD (there is a little leaflet too though) but I keep falling asleep listening to mine!

Do we need to write our birth plans ourselves or do the midwives write it with us at one of the appointments. I know I've been through it a few times but in my other pregnancies I saw barely any midwives as I had consultant care all the way through. With the girls I just said no episiotomy when I met the midwife delivering my baby.

Although I did have birth plans for both previous dc, I don't think the hospital midwives paid very much attention to them. I think community midwives like them to be done but when you get to the hospital its all about how you actually coping and what you need at that moment, rather than your ideal birth. Having said that, its good to have a few ideas and list any particular anxieties or aims you have.

With my 2nd dc my birth plan was basically to get out of hospital as soon as possible and the mw was great in helping me achieve that. I was home 3 hours after she was born and if I have to go into hospital this time it will again be the most important thing on my birthing plan.

Goingfor3 - last time I went through my birth plan with the community midwife.

This time I'm going to work on it with my doula and if there's time I'll ask the Ind.Midwife who is teaching us hypnosis to take a look at it. Then I'll show it to the community midwife and she if she has any input.

The main thing in mine is about making sure I'm able to use the MLU and the pool if it's available - and that will be by a combination of negotiating/crying with the consultant in advance and working on a strategy with the doula to use on the day. The other main point in mine will be about being left alone and no routine VEs - again that's something I'll put in the birth plan but also discuss in detail with the doula so she can speak for me when I'm in labour.

Rolf - I'm interested in what you were saying about your ds2 and constipation, we are struggling to get ds1 to go to the loo, he doesn't like to go at school, and doesn't like to spend valuable time sitting on the loo here, resulting in a build up and then it's hard going - sorry tmi!!I think it also affects his behaviour too. What have you done to help your ds2?

UDC - I really like the hypnotherapy CDs and find them very helpful. Because I've been getting quite strong BHs I've had the chance to practise some of the techniques, and I use the breathing techniques throughout the day. I can copy them and send you a set if you like.

WARNING - THIS POST IS ALL ABOUT POO

Deb - DS2 was having an awful time. He was holding it in but (tmi alert) had seepage so his undies were revolting and he smelt. It would build up and he'd get stomach cramps.

I allowed extra time in the morning, got him into his uniform before breakfast then after breakfast I'd sit him on the loo with a book. He wasn't put under any pressure to do a poo, but was told to just stay there and relax with his book. The first few days he was on the loo for as long as half an hour but each day he did a huge poo and felt much better. After about a week (by which time I reckon he was all cleaned out) he'd only stay on the loo for a little while before doing a poo.

Now I only remind him to go if I think he hasn't gone for a few days or if he's wriggling. But almost all the time now he just goes, at home, when he needs to. Sometimes in the morning, sometimes after school and sometimes in the evening. He's much much happier and more comfortable.

hi all -josey/dq sorry to hear about things. Did you get through to midwife DQ?

Had scan today - 32 weeks- baby still lieing across me (and what I thought were her legs are actually her arms so she has a punch like ricky hatton) but am not unduly worried as still got time to go. More fed up as having trouble sleeping and got some kind of tummy bug so feel really uncomfortable all the time.

Got first NCT tomorrow so may have more idea on birth plan - so far have only got so far as whatever it is that gets me and paris through it. Maybe be a bit more informed after the course..

upsidedown - have been to hypno courses, been doing the cd and reading the book as well as practising visualisation. DH not so keen to help so still hoping that if I keep on at it that will be enough to help me through - he is not anti it but not sure that doing the script is way forward -prefers to do it his own way.

Just want to say thank you to you all...have had a chat with ds and we have agreed to make up a timetable for things see how that goes....he seems really happy with this and harmony has been restored.

Then on the other hand and this is just brother and sister being brother and sister....they quite often have there bath together as he is much older they play well and I get a couple of things organised then go do the hair etc. Both my dc's have a thing about being out the bath before the plug is pulled DS has grown out of it and thinks its funny to wind dd up. On top of that when I was putting her pjs on she pointed under her bed and told me there was monsters and there would be trouble tonight another of her brothers wind ups, as you will guess im delighted at having spend half and hour on my hands and knees under a bed prooving there is NO MONSTERS.

I have ended up with hellish heartburn and crying as Im so badly in need of a good sleep and know im going to be up all night on monster watch

DQ have you heard anything back from your MW not very reassuring that they take hours to contact you they all seem to be the same!

Aberdeen hope your ds is ok dd has been hit with and awful cold she keeps trying to hold back the cough and speak through it, it sounds awful.

Rolf just want to say re the kitchen being clear....A if enviromental health had been in mind today they would have shut me down and ...B if DH had been at home he would have divorced me DD did cough tomatoe soup everywhere though. I also so get you re the bonding thing I sometimes just want to cucoon myself away.

OK Im going to go to bed pray for sleep and promise I wont have my head so firmly up my ass tomorrow and hijack the thread. P.s I washed all my baby knitts today which gave me a nice fuzzy feeling we are all having babies

Rolf - thank you for your advice re poo, we have started persuading him just to sit there with a book, but haven't timetabled it into the day yet, maybe after lunch would work best for us as we are too rushed in the morning and they get up early enough as it is!!

Josey, glad you're feeling better, you haven't hijacked the thread, just voiced some concerns and your invaluable virtual friends have offered advice and support.
Nice that you feel all fuzzy about your baby knits - I did too!

Dramaqueen - hope you're feeling better now

Ernest - GOOD LUCK

Josey, my sister gave me great advice about monsters, all her kids have something to protect them, by the third child it was just a button under her pillow, but worked a treat!!
xxx

hi everyone, I'm back! Thanks for all the messages. Have been at the hospital for hours but everything ok .

MW finally rang me back about 4.30pm, bumped her gums about the fact she was now off duty so I couldn't go to her to get BP checked (surgery less than 5 mins walk, and this is the same MW who has kept me waiting for 1/2 every single appointment, and who always overruns because she spends all her time blethering about her own kids/DH/neighbours/public transport etc etc) and referred my to the hospital.

Got to hospital and waited over an hour to see someone. Saw a lovely mw who took some bloods, monitored my BP and the baby's heartbeat for an hour. She said everything was ok, just needed doctor to look at blood tests before they sent me home. She said it would be about another 10 minutes as my results were back and there was a doctor doing the rounds. This was at 7pm. Then at 7.30 there was a shift change and no-one came to see me at all after that.

Eventually at 9 o'clock DH went to find someone. The doctor finally came to see me and I had to explain everything to him again and finally got sent home some time after 9.30. I really wouldn't have minded if doctors were busy etc if I had been kept informed. From all the grumbles you could hear about the place it was clear that no-one had been seen since the shift change. Also, had thumping headache still the whole time (not helped by the hospital strip lighting). LOL when I read my notes in the car on the way home which said paracetemol recommended - no-one mentioned it let alone offered it.

Anyway, sorry for long post, very relieved everything ok obviously. Hope you guys all well.

Glad you're OK, but what a nightmare at the hospital. Hope you sleep well tonight