Due APRIL 2008- BOTTOMS UP!! Babies and raspberry leaf tea!!

[TLSM]

Here we go welcome all

30 March: Peachy, 34, from Caerleon, S/Wales, a boy. 4th baby (already has 3 DSs (8, 7, 4.5)).
01 April: siameez, expecting a boy.
01 April: vacaloca.
02 April: Redmonster, 29. This is her first baby.
02 April: Sheds75, from Cheshire, expecting a boy. This is her first baby.
02 April: V1KK1M, from Hertfordshire, expecting a surprise. This is her first baby.
03 April: NoMoreHighHeels.
03 April: Sal22, 30, London, our first baby (boy)
04 April: CeylonSapphire, from Twickenham. This is her first baby.
04 April: PortAndLemon, 35, from SW London, expecting a girl. This is her second baby (already has 1 DS (3)). Next scan 5th March.
04 April: lorisparkle, 33, from Cotswolds. This is her second baby (already has 1 DS (15 months)).
04 April: Themaskedposter, 35, from SW London. This is her Second child, expecting a surprise.
06 April: micegg.
06 April: paranoidmummy, 24, expecting a surprise.
07 April: Daftmoo, from South Hampshire. This is her second baby (already has 1 DS (8)).
07 April: Fleecy, 30, expecting a surprise. This is her second baby (already has 1 DD (14 months)).
07 April: Piccalilli2, 32, from Sheffield, expecting a girl. This is her second baby (already has 1 DD (2)).
08 April: Denny185, 33, expecting a girl. This is her third baby (already has 1 DD (5) and 1 DS (14 months)).
08 April: Elfsmummy, expecting a surprise.
08 April: KnitterInTheNW, 32, from Warrington, expecting a boy. This is her first baby.
08 April: Rainbowdays, Expecting a Boy. This is her third baby, (already has ds 4 and dd 3). baby expected to arrive in March
11 April: VictorianSqualor, 27, from Bicester, expecting a surprise. This is her third baby (already has 1 DD (7) and 1 DS (3)).
09 April: egyptianprincess. This is her first baby.
09 April: mummyofaprincess, 21. This is her second baby (already has 1 DD (2)).
09 April: siikibam, expecting a surprise. This is her first baby.
10 April: Gangle.
10 April: MathairNua, 29.
11 April: scorpio1, 23, from Cornwall, expecting a girl. This is her third baby (already has 1DSS (5) and 2 DSs (5 and 2)).
12 April: gemprincess, 29, expecting a boy. This is her fourth baby (already has 3 DDs (7, 3, 16 months)).
12 April: Velbels, 28, expecting her first baby.
12 April: positive, 38, from N Ireland. This is her first baby. High risk baby has Down's.
13 April: MassiveMollyfloss, 32, from Ireland but living in London, expecting a girl.
14 April: Jaq39, from Edinburgh.
14 April: SuzeM, 35, from Ireland but living in London, expecting a girl. This is her first baby.
15 April: Bainmarie, 30. This is her third baby (already has 1 DD (almost 4) and 1 DS (2)).
15 April: pad.
15 April: PippiCalzelunghe. This is her second baby (already has 1 DD (2.4)).
17 April: babywhiting, 30. expecting a girl.
17 April: EllieG, 29. (already has 1 DSD).
17 April: soph28, 28.
18 April: bunyanvillas, from W London. This is her second baby (already has 1 DD (3)).
19 April: dolly1, from London, expecting a boy. This is her first baby.
19 April: northeastmummy, from Aberdeen. This is her second baby (already has 1 DD (16 months)).
19 April: AttillaTheHan, from Preston. This is her second baby. Has ds 3 1/2.
20 April: Ayomi. This is her first baby.
20 April: mumzyof2, 21.
20 April: munchkinmum. This is her second baby.
20 April: Toastaddict, 31, from Nottingham. This is her first baby.
21 April: Annieroo. This is her first baby.
21 April: littlemissturquoise.
22 April: BabyBratt, 30, from Manchester. This is her first baby.
22 April: rdk, from Manchester. This is her second baby.
22 April: Soph73, 34, from Gran Canaria. This is her second baby (already has 1 DS (5)).
23 April: Carey87, 20, from Orpington, Kent. This is her first baby.
25 April: loisstella, 33.
25 April: scampmum, 29. This is her second baby (already has 1 DD (18 months)).
26 April: TLSM, 29, from Surrey, expecting a boy. This is her second baby (already has 1 DS (3). Next scan 14th March
26 April: eva07, 29, soon to be from Cardiff, expecting a surprise. This is her first baby.
26 April: Sagitta, 34, from Suffolk, expecting a surprise. This is her second baby (already has 1 DD (21 months)).
26 April: meandbump, 21, expecting a boy. This is her first baby.
27 April: ShellySara, 30.
27 April: Lennsuey. This is her first baby.
28 April: Beeper. This is her second baby (already has 1 DS (8.5)).
28 April: honeybee10. This is her third baby.
28 April: Woollymummy. This is her second baby (already has 1 DD (17 months)).
29 April: Mum2b2babyRoo, 32, expecting a surprise. This is her first baby.
end April: chipmonkey, 38. This is her fourth baby (already has 3 DSs).

Happy mothers day everyone, DH is at work, DD woke early and have spent the am so far doing breakfasts, getting everyone washed and dressed, cleaning the kitchen and doing the washing - much like any other day then . Hopefully when DH gets home he can sort kids for bed and I can watch the ice skating in peace.

Welcome to all returners and new names.

Scorpio, at least youve got a chance of sorting everything out now it in the open, if youd have both kept it bottled up it could have gone beyond repair. I hope you can both make the compromises you need to make it work.

VS, watched that Dawn programme (although i did wonder what you were posting with the warning of adult material to start with), so funny, and interesting to see what the placenta looks like - having 2 sections Id never seen one B4.

Molly, the mouse traps work then, we have reg probs with the old mice as live near fields, we tried the humane things with no effect, paid for the 'exterminator' which lasted til the next arrivals and have kept them at bay with poison since. They are a pain in the arse though, amazing wha they will eat/chew!!

Peachy, this Lo giving you so many false alarms you wont believe it when its happening will you.

Being hassled to give up the computer for cbeebies must go

I have to tell someone this!!! I am SO happy

DSD has been hinting for about 2 weeks about mother's day but I closed all my eyes and ears to it encase I was wrong - this morning she gave me 2 cards, one she made at school which said
'Dear Eleanor happy mother's day, I will be a great adopted daughter love DSD' and one she made with my Mum (her own idea apparently) which said
'Dear ELeanor You're my mother now I love you love DSD'

God I can feel myself welling up again

And she asked DP to take her out to buy a bunch of flowers yesterday and to help her organise brekkie in bed.

This means SUCH a lot to me, it really does, all the more because I know it's come from her as DP and me have never, ever pushed her to do anything to do with me in a mummy role. She told me she has decided she wants Mother's day to be about me, that she will keep her Mum's birthday to do the balloon/card remembering thing but that mother's day is going to be for me now I am adopting her and we are expecting 'our' baby.

Oh gosh I am sorry for gushing but this feels like a very special day

Awww, Ellie
It made me well up so no wonder you are!
How wonderful.

I was begging baby not to come last ngiht, really bad backache started at about tenish, had DP rubbing it, then more flipping contractions, only three or four though and I was going 'This can't be it, not now, not tonight, I'm too tired'
I'm going to be useless when it comes to the real thing

Ellie thats lovely, glad DSD given you such a special day.

Ellie - thats really great

VS - poor you! i hate the dentist so much you would not believe.

Hi to new lady

Umm, still ok here, bit better again today. He did mean what he said; i asked last night. He said he is feeling better though and wants us to work.

Feeling like hes not sure he wants to carry on isn't necesssarily a bad sign IMO. There are times with DP it's been real hard and I've thoghut 'Do I really want this?', then I've had to think seriously and it's not him I don't want, it's the issues at the time, I think it's often even easier for men to feel that way because if they left it's an automatic 'I go, leave the kids and missus' type reaction so it would be a lot easier, with women it's 'I go take the kids' so a harder situation straight away which is probably why men get this thought in their heads more often.

The fact that it has been identified before it became anything mroe means you can work out what it is he doesn't want, because if it was you, he'd have gone already.
xxx

Ellie: That is just so so lovely. How old is your DSD?

Scorpio: now that all is out in the open, means you can work on it but please try to relax a bit too as you are having a baby! (I know that's easier said than done)

VS: Hope you haven't had any more contractions!

One of my friend's sisters anniversary is today (she died last year from cancer at only 35) leaving her DH and 5yr old DD and 3 yr old DS behind. It is such a sad day for them and worse that her first anniversary is on Mother's day. Makes me so grateful for everything I have...

On a happier note, I just saw my friend's day old baby. She's gorgeous, weighs 6.3lbs (not bad for 5 weeks early!) and the delivery went really well, quite fast actually, started at about 10pm on Friday and the baby was out at 5 am on Saturday morning. Really fast considering it's her first baby!

Ellie, that is soooooooooo lovely of your dsd! I'm all teary now, not that it takes much to set me off these days!
Molly, how sad for that poor family.

Thanks VS I think it is the issues and not 'me' iyswim? We have been much closer today. Just never ever thought i would hear those words.

Molly - thanks I am trying to take it easy too; Millie is the most important thing at the moment, bless her. I feel incredibly guilty i have cried every day for the last fortnight - but i havent today so thats good

We went to the car booty and got the kids a dvd combi telly; i got cooked beef roast and he has been very considerate today

My Mum rang me last night - my nan has cancer of the gall bladder. First my grandad in Jan and now my Nan. She is 69; the most wonderful woman you have met and bang, this. She is being seen again on weds with a view to starting chemo asap. they cant operate becuase of nerves or something...But apparently its contained so better than it could have been iyswim. I'm ok about it though; outlook is very good.

Everyone else well? You have all been so kind to me; thankyou so much.

oh Ellie that is gorgeous- it made my eyes well up. It is so lovely that she feels that way about you

I thought I should update my stats cos they're wrong on the list-

am due 19th April (was corrected from 17th at dating scan),
I was 30 yesterday! (not 28- haven't updated profile for 2 yrs)
Have a ds- nearly 3 and a dd- 19mths
This one will be a surprise.

Peachy- how're you feeling now? So exciting- can't wait to hear about all the arrivals!! I'm sure mine won't be till May as I'm always late Really, really hope I'm early this time!

Scorpio- sorry to hear about your nan . Hope you are ok. Try to concentrate on the baby and not get too stressed (easier said than done, I know) and take care of yourself.

This is the for everyone first thing in the morning: DO YOUR KEGELS!!!

By the way, has anyone been doing perineal massage?

Don't even know what that is molly, so probably not!

Glad things are bit better today scorpio - hang on in there lady x

Hello all, just managed to stop blubbing about Ellie's DSD and well-deserved mothers' day treat! Congrats Ellie, that is lovely.

Scorpio, sorry to hear about your Nan and glad outlook is good. Sure things with you and DH will be absolutely fine. It is great that you are so honest with each other.

Thanks Molly - I am being much better at them and it's actually helping my SPD a bit. Tends to go in phases, though - will be brilliant one day then forget for three.

VS - you speak such Strong Truth! Just wanted to say that. You seem like a very wise lady. Don't worry, you will breeze through labour when it comes. The hormones of maternal power will surge through you (and all of us).

Molly, I am going to do perineal massage. Prob I had last time was I found it hard to reach (!! - DH had a go but it was too weird doing something unsexy down there) but my friend suggested squatting and reaching under my bum instead so I'll try that. I have two friends who have had no tearing having done perineal massage from 36 weeks. I used almond oil last time - had an episiotomy so I just don't know whether it would have worked or not.

MAN this baby wiggles a lot. Keep calling it 'he' today - mother's intuition? 50/50 chance I can call it that in retrospect, I guess!

Scamp, my baby is a boy and I have been able to feel movement from 12 weeks. He is still very active! If I hadn't had so many scans I would think there was more than one in there, especially as I am huge!!! Am definitely much bigger than on ds3 or the others so am expecting to deliver a 14lb baby!

Hi all, hope you had a lovely weekend.

We just finished the last bits to baby's room, it looks great now and I can't wait for the man-of-the-moment to make his arrival!

Scorpio - I don't really know your history, so hope you don't mind me commenting on your DH situation. But I just wanted to share something personal - I must have the best husband in the world, I love him to bits and I know he feels the same way about me. But I've gone through a stage before where I just wondered if I could / wanted to live with our differences etc. Now it all seems so trivial and rediculous to have even wondered, I don't know why I even considered something so drastic when I think of it now, but at the time I was really stressed and the small things just built up and I told him straight out one day that I wasn't sure whether I wanted our marriage anymore. But we discussed it (took a while, remember, you're still two different people, even if similar on so many things), and in the end I'm really glad I said it (although feel horrible because I know it hurt him when I said it at the time), because he could see how I feel, and also the other way round - it gave him the freedom to say things that bothered him but that he would otherwise not have said. Oh, I'm babbling, but what I mean to say - I know it hurts to hear, but it doesn't mean that he loves you any less, and this might end up as being one of the best things that could have happened - stops things from being bottled up for too long. Good luck xxx

Hi everyone,
I had a BH-licious night last night with lots of interesting pains. At one point was a little worried if this was a labour precursor but thank gods no. (due 1st April)
My DP was so good to me though, sitting up with me until late rubbing my back. Bless him. I really love him so much, and I wanted to tell the world how gentle and wonderful he is before I cry!
I saw Dawn Gets A Baby last night, and it was really great. (If you haven't seen it, google BBC iplayer and download it)
Well thats about it really, my little one inside me wakes me up about 5am every morning with a kicking bonanza until I either make it back to sleep or end up on here. So its the mumsnet morning today...

I'll put the kettle on for the rest of you girls and leave out some breakfast.
Love and hugs...
Impatiently yours, ThePFJ xxx

Morning all,

Hope you are all doing well. It's a lovely sunny morning here in London and I'm going swimming. It will be nice to be weightless for a while! In hindsight I think I might have had a bit of false labour on Saturday. I had period like pains come and go for about and hour and I was completely exhausted after that and had to sleep. I was much better yesterday though. It could also have been psychological because I had just heard that my friend had her baby.

Ellie: perineal massage is where you massage 'down there' from about 34 weeks to help with stretching and hopefully then avoid tearing or an episiotomy. Both my Doc & the NCT classes recommend it. Particularly helpful in first time Mum's apparently...

Scampmum: Glad the Kegel reminders are working. I'm better at reminding than actually doing them myself! On Perineal massage, I think I am going to find it hard to reach too. DH will have to have a go. We have a diagram from the NCT - oh the romance of it all!

Norning!

I had a lot of BH on Saturday, my mum & dad and auntie & uncle were here and brought our new car. Car's brilliant, and I hardly had to do anything all day cos my auntie was convinced I needed to sit down and not wait on them all.

Now I'm mobile again I'm off to the trafford centre today to get a zip and some buttons to finish off a couple of little jackets I've made. I'm just finishing sewing up a stripey hooded jacket for my little monkey, it turned out a bit big so who knows when it'll fit him!

So sorry to hear about your nan Scorpio, the doctors will work their magic though

Oh, and Sheds & Denny, we decided on the 10th didn't we? That's next Monday, shall we work out a time/place?

Good morning. Lovely day today here in London, I read some snow expected up north...! Good luck / enjoy to those affected!

We finished baby's room yesterday - ah, it looks so beautiful (just normal of course, but I got all soppy unpacking his little clothes etc). We had a proper "Spring clean" yesterday, I even washed all the windows (which hasn't been done in ages, for some reason the fact that I started struggling to see out didn't bother me in the least before )

Hope you all have a lovely week. I keep expecting to see someone had a baby during the night, so you never know! xxx

perinal massage:

use oil; insert thumb to back of vagina. pull down and back. you will feel slight sting/burn - hold for a few seconds and release. repeat

i did this every pg and no tears.

When are we meant to be getting snow? It's gorgeous bright sunshine at the moment up here!

ooo. I will try perineal massage tonight then. Sounds a bit ouch.

Big ahhs to PFJ's DH. Very sweet. And thanks for the tea!

I am officially A Whale. Have put on loads of weight now and tummy is humungous. Never mind eh - worth it to have a lovely little one I figure

TMI

had to ring MW's - had a massive ton of clear jelly stuff when i went toilet. its not bloody though. Ideas??

Do not want to go to delivery for a poke around today....

Um, sorry if TMI also, but sometimes this happens to me when have been for a poo. Although not masses and masses of it.
What did MW say?