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Good morning all you creme egg lovers ( and those weird ones amongst us who don't appreciate them)

Good luck for all the scans coming up this week, and next.

Sybil and aberdeenhiker - I too am with you on the small bra sizes. Normally I'm a 32A but during pregnancy I swell to a marvelous 34B - and so proud of it too!!!! Wish they didn't shrivel up again afterwards!!!

All this talk of big families is making me very broody. I would kind of like 3 and my husband has hinted at the same (although only recently) but I worry about the logistics of cars etc as we would probably need to change both cars. I had been hoping in a way that this little bean would be two so that we had the decision made for us. Perhaps we'll have to wait and see how we cope with two first!

Debs - poor you, sounds like you have had a rough time. Well done for getting rid of the sicky smell, last time my ds was sick it took me 2 days and endless scrubbing to get rid of the smell.

Sophie, let me know how you get on with the proofreading - are you going to do that from home? Where/who will you most likely pick up work from?

Rolf, my DH has done loads of big drugs cases recently and one proceeds of crime one so possibly does know your DH. I have pics on my profile so get your DH to check look and see if he knows him!

Looney - I know! that is exactly how I feel, that I should be able to say what I want and when about my babies. Theo is just Theo now and that is what we call him all the time so it just makes me on edge when I go round to PILs to think I am not allowed to mention him. At first I thought I was angry about them not wanting to know because I just like to always get my own way, so I let DH talk me into keeping quiet about the sex in front of them, but now I realise that it is not just me being me, it is actually me being normal and wanting to talk about my babies and being annoyed that anyone is trying to stop me. I think I will have to say I can't do it any longer...

BTW, I am giving up lightbulbs for lent. It's what the some CofE bishops are recommending. We have quite a few rooms lit with halogen spotlights so we are going to remove one from each room.

nh101, I would accidently let it slip -show them the blue bedding you bought with thier money!

NH - I echo going for 3 - just let it slip out accidentally. It's bound to happen sooner or later anyway.

nh101 - no idea at the moment will counter that one when I come across it, may try for specailist agriculture/equine publishers as that is what my background is.

Large families - I am one of 7 (or 8 if you include the brother I found out about 4 years ago) and my aunt has 9 1 girl followed by 8 boys, i think if I had started earlier then I would have liked a few more but not saying this one will be my last.

It probably WILL just slip out and then it will look like I have done it on purpose. Yes, I was thinking when they see the nursery that will give it away somewhat, except that they know I wouldn't care what I was having, I'd still have the nursery sky blue (Man City!!).

Sophie, how many kids do you have now? I am one of four girls and I love it. DH wants four kids now "because having twins is like just having one baby really" but I'm not sure... would definitely like to have at least one more.

just one at the moment.

Hi everyone,

It has been busy on here!

Glad everyone is doing well, good to hear 20 week scans are all ok.

I can't believe I'm 24 weeks tomorrow this pregnancy is really flying away, starting to feel huge. Really struggling with work clothes, have my size 16 trousers undone today with topshop bumpband over the top, fantastic! never had one last time, hope it will last a few more months, decided I will start telling people I am six months now (nearly there), fed up of everyone saying how big I am for five!

Aberdeenhiker - so nice to here there is something I can eat during pregnancy, thank god for your post! Although I'll probably put on an extra 3 stone! Which reminds me I have now put on One whole stone since beginning of pregnancy! Better stay off those creme eggs!

hi all! what a rotten day i've had so far. took ds to playgroup and it was fine the whole time and then when we went to leave all hll broke loose. it was like wwIII he threw fit after fit (i am talking full on, tears, screaming top of his lungs, laying on the floor). when i tried to put his shoes on he headbutt me in the mouth to which i totally lost my temper and held his head in place and gave him sht and then realised that every single mum (it was a busy day so about 30 of them!) was staring at us. in the end the playgroup worker (lovely italian named victoria) saved me by distracting him with some toys and calming him down (twice!) so we could actually leave. by the time we reached the gates dylan was happy as could be but i'm so stressed now i feel if i started crying i might never stop.

big hugs dylan!!!! Try not to worry about it. Have no experience to share with you as only expecting my first but I can only imagine most mums (including the ones staring at you) have been through something similar.

DLM - you poor thing! How old is your ds? My ds is 17 months and we are just getting to the tantrum stage. If I take him out in the garden when we are home he throws a major strop - tears, stamping of feet etc- when I try and bring him back in, even if he is freezing cold. So far this has only happened at home but I am just waiting for it to happen when we are out and it's bound to be playgroup. I really feel for you as there is almost nothing you can do. I find distraction doesn't always work and I am trying desperately not to start bribing him with biscuits to stop him kicking up. Lets hope some of the other mums on here can help us out with some idea's

Don't feel bad though as every mum with a 1 year old or older will have been through the same thing. They are probably feeling sorry for you or remembering the last time their dc kicked up.

dylansluckymum - how awful. I know what you mean about the crying though, in fact rather like Dylan I want to throw a full on tantrum.

Wisdom toothpain worse today so another emergency appointment at the dentist. He advised that he was referring me to hospital for an urgent wisdom tooth extraction as my gum size had doubled since Monday (and they were big then). He also advised I talk to my doctor about alternative pain relief as paracetamol not touching the sides. Receptionist completed form and gave it to me suggesting I took it to the hospital as it might be quicker, but warned me that might not accept it from me, so just put it in the post if not...?

Anyway, walked to doctors where receptionists said no point making appointment, paracetamol only and for no more than 5 days. If it really hurts (my face is swollen like a rugby ball), try clove oil.

Bought clove oil and walked home, only to notice it says 'ask your doctor before using if you are pregnant or if you have diseased gums'. I have gum disease, hence this problem and am pregnant...!

Got home and phoned my private medical insurer who advised they do not cover this.

Then phoned central booking services at hospital to whom the referral is addressed - "We have a four week turnaround". Perhaps you could take the referral form direct to dentist area?

Tried hospital Dentist Area - No reply, left a message for them to call back 2 hours ago.

Called midwife for two hours until I got through:

• No influence on any other departments
• Paracetamol only as pain relief
• Try A&E....!!!
• Never heard of clove oil, give it a try!

So straight after my scan tomorrow which I was really looking forward to, we need to go direct to the Dentist area and basically beg. If we can't get anywhere, then onto A&E where we claim I have been taking paracetamol since Sunday (ie: 5 days) and can't take anymore as am pregnant and just sit there until someone sees me.

I know this was a huge rant but I am literally crying here....

pregnantpenquin - I'm so sorry, I could cry for you.

How awful. Since your GP, dentist and mw have all pretty much fobbed you off I would so go to A&E (and dont feel bad about fibbing about how long you've had paracetemol).

The GP isnt going to recommend alternative pain relief (after all, if there was 'safe' alternative pain relief we'd all know about it).

You're face sounds so bad I wouldn't have thought that clove oil would help. Go to A&E and dont wait till tomorrow - go now, you'll never sleep tonight.

I dont normally advocate queue jumping, fibbing to get treatment etc (I get annoyed when people pretend to have a fall so they can have an extra scan!) but this is different.

Are you still here? Go to A&E!!

pp your poor thing! certainly puts my drama in perspective. i know it's probably the last thing you want to do but A&E might not be a bad idea. at least you could get some relief and they'd know what to give a pregnant lady!

thanks everyone for your kind words. i've been convincing myself that everyone now thinks i'm a horrible mother and are going to report me to whoever it is you report that kind of thing to. i told dh and he said that i was nuts. i must admit i'm feeling a wee bit silly for being so upset now. ah hormones, what are you going to do?

he doesn't usually throw fits too much, at home if he doesn't get his way but i just ignore him and he quickly loses interest. can't ignore him there though because he's getting so much attention from everyone else!! he did a pretty good one in john lewis once but i just strapped him in his pushchair and sped away. no pushchair today!!

PP - go to A&E today and get it sorted. You really shouldn't be left to suffer like this and it sounds like the longer you are leaving it the worse it is getting. If they can get you on the right pain relief and antibiotics today then you will probably be feeling a whole lot better tomorrow and will enjoy your scan!

Don't think that you are making a fuss, you've been suffering for days and it's time they sorted out your problems. The added stress can't be good for the baby either - not trying to worry you there but it should be another factor they take into consideration.

Go to A&E - good luck.

pp, it sounds a nightmare, I think going to dentist and sitting it out there tomorrow sounds like the best idea.

Stick your belly out and cry is needs be! What a terrible situation. I feel like crying for you!

PP - I agree with all. Get yourself to A&E and make a fuss.

People have NO IDEA what it's like being pg - even the ones who've done it forget...
I got the train home last night and there was NO WHERE to sit and I was on the verge of tears at the thought of having to stand with nothing to hold onto for 20 minutes.
A woman spotted me upset and offered her seat but the rest were just studiously ignoring me - I couldn't even catch anyone's eye so if I'd asked for a seat I'd have basically had to announce it to the whole carriage. It's not like it isn't obvious any more!

Hope you get all sorted today and feel better soon. ((hug))

Thank you so much everyone. It's fantastic to be able to rant on here. After all your advise I was planning to go to A&E with DH when he got home, but have just got some good-ish news. Hospital's dental unit finally rang back and were very helpful. Explained that they only accept emergency cancer patients - they do not do it on the basis of pain....

However the lady advised me that another London hospital does. They have an emergency clinic daily at 3pm that is first come, first served. I've been advised to get there for 2.30pm tomorrow (think I'll aim for 2pm to be sure) and to take my referral letter with me.

Otherwise 4 weeks is the turnaround time or maybe 2 weeks if I was really lucky!

Will go to A&E for pain relief if really bad this evening, but just knowing it will take 24 hours rather 24 days to get resolved has made me feel so much better.

Thanks again everyone.

We are a quarter of the way through our 1000 posts with this thread, and it hasn't even been going a week.

I've been off work and working at home a bit because of my fall on Saturday. I can't believe how long it is taking to calm down. I had a three-hour meeting today and was so stiff afterwards, I could hardly walk. I also can't walk long distances even after I've warmed up my muscles! So I've come home and am about to have a hot bath.

PP - good luck at the dentist tomorrow. Glad you found one that takes emergency patients. xx

We are a chatty lot - if I miss a few days I only go back a page or so because it is impossible to read everything!

we got our first veg box today so have been scouring the net for radicchio, jerusalem artichoke and cabbage recipes (i'll eat it but i never cook it). feel free to pass on any of your favourites to me (or of any of the other weird veggies i'm going to get) at susieq_cdn at yahoo dot com. cheers!!

PP - oh you poor thing but at least you'll be getting treatment tomorrow. I had 2 wisdom teeth taken out because they were impacted but unlike you I wasn't in pain - well not before anyway. Good luck for tomorrow

Dylnasmum - my advice - always have the buggy, then if someone will hold the buggy you can manipulate him into it and make your hasty exit!!I've been there many times but it was a distant memory - I was really looking no longer than the baby days, now you've made me think about toddlers -yippee!!With my ds1 it was always at toddler group in front of parents of children I was teaching - sooo embarassing!!

PP so glad you tooth is on the way to getting sorted. I hope you are first in line in the afternoon.

DLM, the tantrums don't always stop after children stop being toddlers. DD1 (age 6) had a huge one today after school because I told her she had to learn her times tables for her test tommorow. It's my fault she got so upset though as I thought she had to learn her 3 X's and we did that yesterday which took alot of patience when in fact she nneded to learn her 10 X's which is much easier, so I really stressed her out yesterday poor girl.

DLM who did you get your box from? Is Radiccio a lettuce? I had some green leaves in mine but have no idea what they are and must admit that cabbage usually goes to the guinea pig!