Due in June 08 - the rollercoaster continues...

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Morning everyone

Hope you're all OK today

Deb

Oh and my boobs weren't sore this time or last - just the very occasional twinge.

Systemsaddict sorry you're still feeling so rough, it seems never ending doesn't it. I only started to feel any different yesterday. I was only sick once yesterday but the day before had been about 4 times so maybe your 1st good day will be imminent too. I've still been sick this morning but feel more able to get on with life than I did.

I'll keep my fingers crossed for you!!

Good morning to everyone else

Ernest - did you get it finished and how's your ds?

Hi, my two will be 23 months apart (fingers crossed) - I really wanted another summer baby but as DS is still not talking at all it seems like they'll be very close in age. He's been very jealous lately too, I'm hoping he'll have outgrown it by June. Any advice from those of you who've already got two kids on how to handle it?

My breasts have definitely not been as sore as last time either but then I'm still breastfeeding DS (he's got a host of food allergies and I'm worried about stopping for his health) so I just put it down to that.

I have a doppler and I'm just wondering when we can start hearing a heartbeat. I'm afraid to try to use it too early because I don't want to stress myself out. (I'm 12 weeks tomorrow). Has anyone heard the heartbeat yet? Unless I hear differently, I think I'll wait for another two weeks as I heard you're almost guaranteed to hear the heart at 14 weeks...

Thanks deb - I really shouldn't complain as I have had good days, or at least good half days, and you have had it so much worse!

Aberdeenhiker v. jealous you are still breastfeeding - my ds had a nursing strike at 1 year when his molars came through and I couldn't get him back on - I really miss it as when I was feeding him I felt so secure that he was getting all the nutrition he needed from that and food was just a bonus - now I worry every time he goes off his food, which is often!

Aberdeenhiker - when I booked in I was told to come back around 16 weeks as they can hear a heartbeat then. There's a chance they could hear it earlier than that but obviously it's so scary if they can't.

I found the first year with 2 children ok as the baby can just be lugged around the place. It was once DS2 was crawling that things became more hairy! DS1 breastfed his teddy when I was feeding DS2 (rather insultingly hodling the teddy down near his belly button!).

I finally relented and bought a bigger bra. I'm usually a 32/34 D/E and the one I bought is a 34F . I go up to a G cup when I'm breastfeeding. Very ungainly.

Aberdeenhiker - I have 23 months between my 2 and it's been great - they are very close and play so well together(most of the time)When Tristan we made sure there was a present for Stefan from him, and just tried to keep routines etc... as normal as possible. When breastfeeding I would make sure stefan also had a snack and drink readily available and that was our time for watching TV or reading a book.I'm sure you'll be fine, just don't expect your little one to be best friends immediately with their sibling - at that age it takes time. Stefan just called Tristan "baby" for months!!

Rolf - I have a great bit of video of ds breastfeeding his teddy too, swapping sides and winding it!

Deb

Love you boys' names by the way, Deb.

Morning all - v quiet this morning - I'm never the first one on!

Thanks for all the advice re the job. You all seem pretty split down the middle between telling them straight away and waiting till after Christmas, and I'm still undecided tbh - I think I'll talk to my dad who is, after all, very old and wise and always seems to know what to do. But it's soooo confusing.

Deb re showing - I am starting to look a bit tummyish iykwim but I think I could probably hide it till the New Year if I'm careful. However, the not drinking thing is going to be harder to conceal - our company normally very kindly pays for team nights out with free drinks about half a dozen times between now and Christmas break, and I'm normally first on the champagne so this might end up swinging it in the end.

MS has now gone and I had chilli last night (not v hot) which would have been impossible even a week ago. Starting to feel a bit like my old self, although the spots are still hanging on and so annoying.

Finally, after DH initially had a meltdown at our "accident", he has seemed more positive the last few days and this morning actually told me he's getting excited about it.

Weird - I must have missed the first page - clearly NOT quiet this morning. I'll catch up and come back
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Right, try again. Guess I just didn't read page one somehow.

Josie - so sorry to hear about your woes. Re MIL, one of my best friends has just had a valve replaced with a mechanical alternative and tbh, it was a big op, with a three month period for full recovery, but now it's over he's got a whole new lease of life. He can breath more easily than ever before and feels more energetic - if the valve is weak it seems to reduce oxygen flow to the blood stream so replacing it is actually a fantastic thing long term. Only downside is - he can hear the valve opening and closing! He says it sounds like a ticking clock (like the crocodile in Peter Pan!)

sophie good luck with those guests - they sound ODD.

As for boobs, I have both soreness and bigness and would happily have neither. I've gone from 36C to 40DD already, which does not bode well. My mum claims she went up to a HH cup...Oh dear.

Great news re all the scans, and to all feeling poorly, get well soon.

China - I think the lack of champagne drinking may give you away!!

So pleased that your DH is coming round now

I am so pissed off this morning. Our washing machine is only 18 months old and we have had to call out repair men at least 8 times, thankfully still under guarentee. Someone came out last week and said he needed to order a part so some else fitted the part today and said it may need a couple of other other parts if it's still not draining peoperly. I just put in my coat and trousers and the bloomin thing is blocked already and my coat is too soaked to be dry for when I need it in an hour, it's swimming in water. I'm very cross!!!!

as it's needed so many repairs still in the guarantee time, I'd really push for a replacement, that's crazy

I had my scan this afternoon, definately a little baby in there!! I will try and upload the photo when I get my scanner up and running.
I was a bit annoyed as the sonographer told me the no longer do the nuchal fold test, apparently they are short staffed in Glasgow, so we only get one dating scan (no 20week scan up here)and an AFP test (blood test) at 16 weeks! I thought they were supposed to have evened out this postcode lottery nonsense, I am currently considering writing to my MP for a moan.
I doubt I can even go private now as according to my scan I am 13 weeks tommorow, my new due date is 29th May but can I stay on this thread please I feel like I know everyone on here and it will probably be June anyway!!

Sorry for the rant, it just frustating.

Hope everyone is well today.

Am getting soo close to telling people, more by accident than design. I still meet up with my NCT antenatal group and some of them keep saying how they couldn't face having another one for about 3 years and I'm sitting there with 6 month old DD on my lap - pregnant!!

katyjo glad you saw your little bean! Can't believe you don't get another scan - how are you supposed to last another 27 weeks?!? YOu can definitely pay for more scans. There are so many companies that do them, 3D etc (loads in the back of baby magazines)

Yes stay on the thread because I will probably be July, but am intending to stay on!

Can I just have a whinge?

I have been getting increasingly anxious as I hadn't heard anything about my scan or booking in appointment. Anyway, so today, three and half weeks after I asked my GP to book me in, I get a letter from Kingston hospital saying they are booked for the whole of June and I have to go somewhere else instead.

... if anyone will take me now that I'm 9 1/2 weeks. Grrrr.

Can I just have a whinge?

I have been getting increasingly anxious as I hadn't heard anything about my scan or booking in appointment. Anyway, so today, three and half weeks after I asked my GP to book me in, I get a letter from Kingston hospital saying they are booked for the whole of June and I have to go somewhere else instead.

... if anyone will take me now that I'm 9 1/2 weeks. Grrrr.

Can I just have a whinge?

I have been getting increasingly anxious as I hadn't heard anything about my scan or booking in appointment. Anyway, so today, three and half weeks after I asked my GP to book me in, I get a letter from Kingston hospital saying they are booked for the whole of June and I have to go somewhere else instead.

... if anyone will take me now that I'm 9 1/2 weeks. Grrrr.

Obviously so cross that I posted the last message three times. Sorry about that, guys. Don't know what happened.

Come down to lovely Dorset, got a fab MW, brilliant hospital, and the NT fold scan done for free

Ill again with D but no V spenta ll day in bed eating apples as that is the only thing I want. DH made himself a bacon sandwihc at lunchtime and the smell made me want to heave. Can't get comfotable, either twins or further along then I thought (only joking)

or come to Switzerland and get a scan every 3 weeks.

Sorry. sounds really shit. I did do 1 & 2/3 pg in the UK and I don't remember it being that bad. Both times I had the nuchal fold scan done for free, and definitely had more scans than just 12 & 20 weeks, to 1st time was cos m/twin I suppose.

Upsidedowncake, Very very frustrating to say the least I'd be crying in rage and frustration too. Hope you get sorted soon.
I guess that answers other people's Q off before about should they wait for the 2 weeks for the letter to come. YOu clearly need to shout to get looked after in some places, which is reall unnecessary agro

I think its about time I joined this thread I'm 12.3, and I had my scan yesterday, which was lovely but a bit of a shock as when I went in I honestly expected this one to look exactly like dd did, who is now 3.5. Well, it didn't, it looks exactly like my dp! The shape of the nose is identical! Very strange. I don't know how many on here have a dc already, but has anyone found things very different this time? Physically, I have had bleeding but no vomiting, neither of which were the case with dd. Also, I find that I don't have time to wallow in being pg like last time, I suppose becasue I already have one to look after. I can go for days without even thinking about being pg. I also worry that there is no way I could love another like I love dd, although all my friends insist otherwise.

Katy - the 20 weeks scan is to check the baby out for all the right measurements, check the heart and all organs etc.. How can they not give you one? I thought that was the most important one to have. I would definitely try to get one.

Upsidedowncake - How awful to be told there's no room for you - what are you supposed to do have the baby in a stable??How far away is the next hospital?

Welcome Littlelamb - I remember feeling just like you when I was pregnant with #2, I am just coming up to 12 weeks with #3, my boys are 7 and 5.You will find even more love after the baby is born!!

Sophie hope you feel better soon, just as well it wasn't last week in Venice!!

After thinking I had turned a corner I've had a rough day today, must get to bed soon.

Upsidedowncake - you need to get onto your GP and PCT damn quick. This happened to me before (am also in your area) and cos I let it go on -there should be overflow capacity if not at kingston then at West mid. also write to your local mp (mine was completely fantastic helping out). You don't want to end up with the chertsey or chelsea & westminster option which was what I had...

Sorry have been lurking but too scared to join properly as due to previous m/c and losing my last baby at 21 weeks am worried about tempting fate.